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FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
2. I wish it wasn't
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 04:26 AM
Aug 2014

But them potentially dragging Israel into it could make it go nuclear.

Preventing nuclear war and the deaths of millions is not our concern?

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
10. They'll be conventional if at all possible or they will be exposed to fallout.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 01:55 PM
Aug 2014

Tactical nuclear at the most and probably not even that, not that you can't pile up the sniffs with conventional arms.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
11. You are in Wonderful Company!!
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 01:55 PM
Aug 2014

"Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud" - GW Bush

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. 'An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere' Martin Luther King Jr
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 01:42 PM
Aug 2014

If you suffer from the misapprehension that the choices are 'go to war' or 'be coldly apathetic' you are incorrect.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
7. Allah really said "he who has assaulted you, assault him in the same way that he has assaulted you"?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 01:38 PM
Aug 2014

As the video claims?

I kind of prefer the "turn the other cheek" tenet from the New Testament.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. Exodus 23 teaches the same thing, eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, hand for a hand.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 01:49 PM
Aug 2014

The NT says 'turn the other cheek' and also 'slaves obey your masters' 'gays are evil' and 'women should remain at home, silently praying for redemption'. But it is what you prefer, so that's something I guess.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
12. I know Jesus never condemned homosexuality.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 01:56 PM
Aug 2014

But I am not that familiar with the New Testament books other than the Gospels. Is there really a New Testament verse that says unambiguously "Gays are evil"?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. Does not use those words but says doomed to hell and all that. Equates us with criminals.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 02:12 PM
Aug 2014

The Gospels have very little to do with organized Christianity, which is a Paulist religion giving greater weight to Paul's letters than to the inconvenient Jesus.
My entire point was actually that all of those ancient 'holy books' are full of horrific statements which are then contradicted by kinder statements. Playing 'their holy book is brutal' games is futile. All holy books are brutal.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
15. The Old Testament wholeheartedly endorsed genocide
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 02:57 PM
Aug 2014

Hell, in the Old Testament, God literally demands genocide against unbelievers

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
16. But do you actually believe in and practice
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 03:10 PM
Aug 2014

turning the other cheek?

Or in practice do you prefer the advice of the OT God?

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