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TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 10:58 AM Aug 2014

How about THIS for Obama's next Executive Order? All New ARMS Purchased By The Federal Government

All New Firearms Purchased By The Federal Government Must Have The Gun Serial Number Stamped On The Firing Pin.

Have you heard of this? It's called microstamping, and basically it's just a microstamp of the serial number of the gun that goes on the firing pin. Then, every time that gun fires a bullet, the bullet will be microstamped with the serial number of the gun. And every time bullet casings are found at a crime scene, law enforcement authorities will immediately know which gun fired it, where it was sold, and (possibly) who it was sold to. I don't see why any law abiding gun owner (myself included) would object to that. I own a gun, and I don't intend to do anything illegal with it (and I don't anticipate participating in a revolution against the 'tyranny of the federal government' any time soon), so I don't object to my bullet casings being marked with my gun serial number.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_microstamping

At one time I believe California was mulling this over, and the firearms lobby said "if you pass a law like that in California, we simply won't sell guns in California. So THERE!"

Well, given that all of Obama's recent Executive Orders have been designed to influence public policy, and have a ripple effect by invoking the ECONOMY OF SCALE of the federal government (ie- A $10.10 minimum wage for all companies that do business with the Feds; a non-discrimination policy for all companies that do business with the Feds etc.)....how would THAT impact the gun manufacturing industry? Every new M4 purchased by the army would have to have it. Every pistol carried by an FBI agent, a Sky Marshall, or a border security agent would have a serial number stamp on the firing pin. If somebody winds up dead, with a bullet in their chest, you can immediately determine if it was a federal agent who fired the bullet, and if so, which one.

The first thing the firearms manufacturers would have to do is install the equipment to do this on a large scale. This would make it more difficult to complain that they're not going to do this just because any individual state might ask for it.

What do you think?

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How about THIS for Obama's next Executive Order? All New ARMS Purchased By The Federal Government (Original Post) TrollBuster9090 Aug 2014 OP
I don't think the Government is particularly keen on it's weapons being easily traceable. Llewlladdwr Aug 2014 #1
It marks the brass zipplewrath Aug 2014 #2
Oh, that does change things /nt Bragi Aug 2014 #3
Yeah, sorry. Thanks for the correction. It marks the spent cartridge. TrollBuster9090 Aug 2014 #5
unless people catch their brass, or file off the #, or replace firing pins, or... NightWatcher Aug 2014 #4
Yes, as I said above, it would mark the casing. From that you could trace the gun, and then TrollBuster9090 Aug 2014 #6
I don't understand the OP. former9thward Aug 2014 #7
It's an EO I would like. nt TrollBuster9090 Aug 2014 #8

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
1. I don't think the Government is particularly keen on it's weapons being easily traceable.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:15 AM
Aug 2014

The US provides arms to lots of groups, not always openly. Why expose your own covert operations?

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
2. It marks the brass
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:43 AM
Aug 2014

You seem to waffle back and forth between recognizing that this marks the casing, not the bullet itself. You can pull all the bullets out of chests that you want, you won't find any microstamped marking on them. I don't object to t his technology, but its utility is fairly narrow.

TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
5. Yeah, sorry. Thanks for the correction. It marks the spent cartridge.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 02:55 PM
Aug 2014

However, if you find a casing you can trace the weapon and then you can do the ballistics on the bullet. So, you can do the same thing. It just takes an extra step.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. unless people catch their brass, or file off the #, or replace firing pins, or...
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:53 AM
Aug 2014

It would be way to easy to get around.

I dont see how the firing pin could stamp the number on the bullet itself. Traditionally the firing pin only contacts the primer on the casing.

TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
6. Yes, as I said above, it would mark the casing. From that you could trace the gun, and then
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 02:59 PM
Aug 2014

do the ballistics.

And yes, a lot of criminals would simply replace the firing pin (including the 'criminals' at the CIA--as a commenter mentioned above---it would make covert arms dealing more difficult. But that's okay by me). However, the same argument was made when they made seatbelts mandatory in cars. "You can just yank them out with a wrench." The fact that you can get around a policy doesn't necessarily mean it isn't worth doing.

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