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ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:34 PM Aug 2014

MMA Fighter and men's rights activist allegedly beats girlfriend nearly to death.

Porn Star Christy Mack Hospitalized After MMA Fighter Attacks, Flees: Cops

Las Vegas police are searching for a mixed martial arts fighter who they believe attacked his girlfriend and then fled.

Jonathan Koppenhaver is accused of beating porn star Christy Mack on Friday evening in an attack that left her with "serious" but not "life-threatening" injuries, cops told the Las Vegas Review-Journal.


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http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--T8KSEHWe--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/rmz3gzwtfrchihhh3qrq.jpg

http://deadspin.com/christy-mack-posts-photos-account-of-alleged-beating-b-1619683970

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MMA Fighter and men's rights activist allegedly beats girlfriend nearly to death. (Original Post) ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 OP
Very disturbing bluestateguy Aug 2014 #1
His tweets are disturbing. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 #2
I would cross the street if I saw this guy. Brigid Aug 2014 #8
It should read "I'm an alpha male shit" nt cyberswede Aug 2014 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Aug 2014 #10
I'd run the other way if I saw that guy on the street. Initech Aug 2014 #20
Nice nietzsche tat mathematic Aug 2014 #23
Exhibit A for the kind of person who gives poor old Friedrich a bad name. n/t nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #47
"poor old Friedrich" was a misogynist piece of shit. He SHOULD have a bad name. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #67
I was being tongue-in-cheek. Can't really disagree with you here. n/t nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #72
What kind of sick freak do you have to be to have a tattoo of a guy tied to a chair catbyte Aug 2014 #32
I was wondering the same thing. Initech Aug 2014 #49
Is that other one on the same arm John Wilkes Booth? This guy is seriously screwed up. catbyte Aug 2014 #60
Oh wow, apparently his Alpha Male Shit tshirt is from his own personal line. Regrell Aug 2014 #52
He talks about her being "his property" delete_bush Aug 2014 #33
She's gonna need to have that removed. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #38
Ughh. I'm also disgusted that a tat artist agreed to ink that. Regrell Aug 2014 #50
Interesting, delete_bush Aug 2014 #64
Of course. Regrell Aug 2014 #70
He's the victim here. Just ask him. Shrike47 Aug 2014 #3
MMA has-been. His last UFC fight was a loss in 2008, then he bailed out of some lesser promotions. Electric Monk Aug 2014 #4
I'm not a porn fan. but cwydro Aug 2014 #31
Poor Christy Mack. AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #5
He's holed up with a lawyer working up a 'roid rage defense, methinks. rocktivity Aug 2014 #11
She's his, so he can break her if he wants to rocktivity Aug 2014 #6
The MRA types will say she should have been arrested for abuse BainsBane Aug 2014 #7
And the types who say porn consumers don't care about the well-being of porn performers Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #56
Wouldn't it be obvious if he was on steroids? AndreaCG Aug 2014 #36
heavy roid use would have killed his sex drive... Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #61
That might explain this portion of Christy's public statement rocktivity Aug 2014 #63
There's no need to fear -- Chapman Dog is here! rocktivity Aug 2014 #12
I never thought Chapman would look like the good guy in a situation... n/t nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #48
I don't see how this is anything but attempted murder Orrex Aug 2014 #13
Currently, his charges are rocktivity Aug 2014 #14
"He has beaten me many times before, but never this badly" joeybee12 Aug 2014 #17
Three hots and a cot in the Crowbar Hilton hifiguy Aug 2014 #15
Dude is a violent sick fucker but zappaman Aug 2014 #16
In his lingo. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 #21
That's called "opinions" not "activism." n/t Psephos Aug 2014 #82
Cry about it a little more. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 #84
lol yep, it's killin' me n/t Psephos Aug 2014 #85
Imagine you are a trained martial artist. You excel and compete against the best fighters around. RadiationTherapy Aug 2014 #18
Well, to be accurate, he wasn't that good of an MMA fighter NT Ex Lurker Aug 2014 #39
They've got him!!! rocktivity Aug 2014 #19
Keep that fuckwit in the pokey hifiguy Aug 2014 #22
To be fair, he doesn't really blend in mythology Aug 2014 #25
What's the MRA connection? nt. Hosnon Aug 2014 #24
There are times when the primitive in me intaglio Aug 2014 #26
One time 4chan trolled tbis guy so hard he beat himself up AngryAmish Aug 2014 #27
Oh wow, that's EPIC. Electric Monk Aug 2014 #29
"They're the type of Internet you don't look in the eye." Barack_America Aug 2014 #45
He thinks he's the victim in this! Warpy Aug 2014 #28
So we are supposed to believe that he dumped her months ago, yet he showed up to catbyte Aug 2014 #30
Now that he's caught, it's time to start working on defense strategies rocktivity Aug 2014 #42
I searched google for "Jonathan Koppenhaver" and "men's rights activist" Kire Aug 2014 #34
This guy doesn't strike me as having the capacity rocktivity Aug 2014 #35
And your point? trumad Aug 2014 #37
You can say Fuck MRA all you want, but you have not established that's what the guy is. Kire Aug 2014 #44
So let me get this straight. Regrell Aug 2014 #51
Welcome the hell to DU! Tsiyu Aug 2014 #54
This post is a thing of beauty. Chellee Aug 2014 #65
Welcome to DU! redqueen Aug 2014 #68
+1 leftstreet Aug 2014 #69
Circular reasoning is bad mostly because it's not very good. Kire Aug 2014 #71
Aww you shouldn't be so hard on yourself. Regrell Aug 2014 #73
Is this the i'm rubber you're glue form of argumentation? Kire Sep 2014 #87
full of sound and fury, signifying nothing Psephos Aug 2014 #83
You didn't look hard enough laundry_queen Aug 2014 #41
If 21 came before 4, I could do that. Kire Aug 2014 #43
Horrible photos of her injuries at this link stevenleser Aug 2014 #40
Her face was basically pulverized. Numerous broken bones, can't chew food, will need surgery nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #46
She was in the apartment with another guy when Koppenhaver showed up. DetlefK Aug 2014 #53
I hope she heals fully Tsiyu Aug 2014 #55
He's scum. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #57
I knew him in college... Hooked_n_Looped Aug 2014 #58
Wikipedia mentions his attending The Citadel rocktivity Aug 2014 #75
What a thug! Disturbing. n/t Laelth Aug 2014 #59
He's been apprehended by police BainsBane Aug 2014 #62
Good. He will be in the slammer for a good long time. hifiguy Aug 2014 #66
Did they shoot him? Egnever Aug 2014 #74
Asshole Rights Blue Owl Aug 2014 #76
From his 2011 prison blog: Is this what is meant by men's rights advocacy? rocktivity Aug 2014 #77
Whip out your handkerchiefs and cue the DU "Cry Me A River" String Quartet rocktivity Aug 2014 #78
Glad to see Casamento finally mentioned here... TreasonousBastard Aug 2014 #79
Time for this asshole to be caught and locked up. Hopefully, for a VERY long time. nt AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #80
Time for this asshole to be caught and locked up. Hopefully, for a VERY long time. nt AverageJoe90 Aug 2014 #81
He's a diseased lunatic. The general consensus on several martial arts forums I am on is Katashi_itto Aug 2014 #86
9/2014 Update from Christy rocktivity Sep 2014 #88
10/20 Update: Suicide attempt and note from Koppenhaver rocktivity Oct 2014 #89
Updates (Trial set for 2/17) rocktivity Dec 2014 #90
2/17 Update: Trial Postponed -- on account of divine interventon? rocktivity Feb 2015 #91
2/18/15 Update: See you in September rocktivity Feb 2015 #92
11/1/15 UPDATE: Trial Moved to July 2016 rocktivity Nov 2015 #93
They're going with the "only nice girls deserve justice" defenese rocktivity Nov 2015 #94
War Machine: 36 To Life Sentence for Beating Ex rocktivity Apr 2018 #95

Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #2)

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
23. Nice nietzsche tat
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 02:49 PM
Aug 2014

He's probably too dumb to realize that the superman isn't the guy doing time in prison for assault.

 

Regrell

(30 posts)
52. Oh wow, apparently his Alpha Male Shit tshirt is from his own personal line.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 02:50 AM
Aug 2014

Here's a link to his blog: "Peek into the mind of a modern day Alpha Male and philosopher."

And then...nothing...



 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
38. She's gonna need to have that removed.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:39 PM
Aug 2014

I can't see how anybody could do an effective coverup on that one.

 

Regrell

(30 posts)
50. Ughh. I'm also disgusted that a tat artist agreed to ink that.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 02:25 AM
Aug 2014

I have several friends who work as tattoo artists, and they're very responsible, almost spiritual, about what they put permanently on another person's skin.

delete_bush

(1,712 posts)
64. Interesting,
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 02:13 PM
Aug 2014

so even though the customer knows what they want, the artist can refuse to do the work?

 

Regrell

(30 posts)
70. Of course.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 03:34 PM
Aug 2014

Lots of reasons why, some of them are really interesting.

I'm sure a baker could (and has) also refuse to make a swastika cake.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
4. MMA has-been. His last UFC fight was a loss in 2008, then he bailed out of some lesser promotions.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 12:12 AM
Aug 2014

In 2009 he announced he was starting a career in porn, and starred in 12 porn videos since then.

So, the headline would more accurately read "Porn star and MRA allegedly beats girlfriend nearly to death." or "Porn star, ex-MMA fighter, MRA allegedly beats girlfriend nearly to death."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Machine_%28mixed_martial_artist%29#Adult_Film_Career

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
11. He's holed up with a lawyer working up a 'roid rage defense, methinks.
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 10:45 PM
Aug 2014

That would explain why he couldn't remember that they'd broken up and he'd moved nearly 350 miles away!


rocktivity

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
6. She's his, so he can break her if he wants to
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 09:56 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Thu Aug 14, 2014, 11:28 AM - Edit history (2)

No accident that the bulk of her injuries were to her hair and face. But according to this report from The Young Turks, they'd broken up in May and he'd moved to San Diego. He's doing MMA and porn? I was going to ask if he was also was on steroids.



And according to the Daily News:

In the (Twitter) messages, Koppenhaver described a scene in which he came home early to surprise Mack with an engagement ring...

"I love you and hope you're okay. I came him (sic) early to surprise you and help you set up for your convention. I can't believe what I found and can't believe what happened. All I wanted was to surprise you and help and do something nice ...now this...

"I'm not a bad guy, I went to surprise my gf, help her set up her show and to give her an engagement ring and ended up fighting for my life...

"The cops will never give me fair play, never believe me. Still deciding what to do but at the end of the day it's all just heart breaking.

"I only wish that man hadn't been there and that Christy & I would be happily engaged. I don't know y I'm so cursed. One day truth will come out," his last tweet said.


Working up a "'roid rage" defense? Or will these become suicide tweets? Nah, he's not "man" enough...


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BainsBane

(53,029 posts)
7. The MRA types will say she should have been arrested for abuse
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 10:04 PM
Aug 2014

because women engage in more domestic violence than men. To support that they site a study that includes "pressuring" a guy to do something he doesn't want (like go shopping? Dinner with the folks?)

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
63. That might explain this portion of Christy's public statement
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 09:42 AM
Aug 2014
He told me he was going to rape me, but was disappointed in himself when he could not get hard.
(Warning: link contains graphic photos and descriptions)

Or maybe he was simply just too exhausted after all his other strenuous activity...


rocktivity

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
12. There's no need to fear -- Chapman Dog is here!
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:28 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:36 PM - Edit history (3)

Reality TV star Duane 'Dog' Chapman...is officially on the hunt for War Machine, who has been on the run since early Friday morning after allegedly assaulting his girlfriend...and an unknown person.

Chapman gave Machine (formerly Jon Koppenhaver) a 24-hour deadline to turn himself in, but after the former Bellator fighter decided not to, 'Dog' is trying to bring him to justice with his cameras in tow for his new series "Dog and Beth: On the Hunt."

Chapman told MMA Mania: "I have friends in the MMA world, so...(w)e heard about it right away. And there was a couple of people who requested that we get involved...(T)he seven warrants...was entered into the system...so we (can) do our thing."

'Dog' is trying to bring him to justice with his cameras in tow for his new (Country Music Channel) series Dog and Beth: On the Hunt.

And what is Dog's game plan?

Dog the Bounty Hunter and son to draw War Machine out with provocative tweets

...(T)elevision reality star Dog the Bounty Hunter and his crew have taken up the challenge of finding MMA's most wanted man War Machine (Jon Koppenhaver). Machine is wanted as the prime suspect in the brutal beating of his ex-girlfriend, Christy Mack.

In a very public, tactical move, Leland Chapman, son of Duane "Dog" Chapman, has released a tweet to try and use Koppenhaver's well-known jealousy to draw him out:

(Tweet) @ChristyMack hey since your ex-boyfriend @WarMachine170 will be in jail soon we should hang out sometime

Jumping in the fray with tweets of his own, "Dog" is also trying to play up on War Machine's insecurities.

(Tweet) #CMTDogAndBeth ok #war machine you want a real fight this time not a girl the biggest match of your career in the street



And just in time for the new TV season? Hands up who DIDN'T see this coming!


rocktivity

Orrex

(63,200 posts)
13. I don't see how this is anything but attempted murder
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:36 PM
Aug 2014

Holy shit what kind of a sick asshole does that to another human being?

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
14. Currently, his charges are
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:10 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:20 PM - Edit history (1)

2 felony batteries, 1 for strangulation
2 felony domestic violence with great bodily injury
Felony coercion with the threat of force
Felony assault with a deadly weapon
Misdemeanor assault with a deadly weapon

Attempted murder should be among them, especially if it's true that "he took my phone and cancelled all of my plans for the following week to make sure no one would worry about my whereabouts." (Link contains graphic photos and descriptions.) Surely that's reasonable justification for her believing "I was going to die. He has beaten me many times before, but never this badly."


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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
17. "He has beaten me many times before, but never this badly"
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:25 PM
Aug 2014

She really needs to see someone about this...they keep showing the video on the local news here...it's really upsetting...they need to send this guy to prison for a long time.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
15. Three hots and a cot in the Crowbar Hilton
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:14 PM
Aug 2014

for about 25 years or so oughta cool his ass down. Guy looks like a shitheel to boot.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
16. Dude is a violent sick fucker but
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:17 PM
Aug 2014

where does it say he's a men's rights activist?
The MMA fighter info I know but had not heard about him being a men's right activist.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
21. In his lingo.
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 02:29 PM
Aug 2014

After going to jail, Machine maintained his Twitter account as well as a blog documenting his time in jail. In this blog, he stated that "The oppression of MEN is worse than oppression of Jews in Nazi Germany, worse than the slavery of Blacks in early America... I'm not exaggerating either."

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
18. Imagine you are a trained martial artist. You excel and compete against the best fighters around.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:40 PM
Aug 2014

You have experienced directly and witnessed the damage and destruction one can do with trained hands and feet. Imagine using these techniques and strengths to beat an untrained person who is much smaller than you nearly to death. Imagine you claim to love this person.

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
19. They've got him!!!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 01:10 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Mon Aug 18, 2014, 12:31 PM - Edit history (3)

'War Machine' arrested in Simi Valley hotel

Jonathan Koppenhaver, also known by the name "War Machine" for his time in the Ultimate Fighting Championship, was taken into custody at a hotel in the Los Angeles suburb of Simi Valley by U.S. Marshals and local police on Friday afternoon, the Simi Valley Police Department said in a statement.

Bellator MMA, a mixed martial arts promotion company that sponsored Koppenhaver, cut ties with him after news of the assault surfaced.


I'm not the least bit surprised that he didn't make it out of his "comfort zone" -- Simi Valley is his birthplace. Anyway, he's off the streets, so cue the Vonage theme!


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hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
22. Keep that fuckwit in the pokey
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 02:31 PM
Aug 2014

until he is tried, convicted, and sent to the Big House, hopefully for a nice long stretch up the river.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
25. To be fair, he doesn't really blend in
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 04:05 PM
Aug 2014

There's a relatively small number of people who tattoo their neck. Sure the tribal tattoo is cliche, but this guy was never going to have an easy time trying to hide in plain sight.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
45. "They're the type of Internet you don't look in the eye."
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 12:38 AM
Aug 2014

Best.Description.Ever.

Won't even go to that site from my home IP.

Warpy

(111,241 posts)
28. He thinks he's the victim in this!
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 04:25 PM
Aug 2014

I find that mindset of batterers utterly appalling, "s/he made me do it! I'm the real victim here!"

It is just never their fault, not even when they're convicted and put into cages for a year or two to think it over.

Just guessing here, but what might be the best thing for this guy is to bust his steroid connection.

catbyte

(34,367 posts)
30. So we are supposed to believe that he dumped her months ago, yet he showed up to
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 04:38 PM
Aug 2014

propose? Then the poor victimized guy found her there with somebody else, so he was forced to pound the guy then beat his "beloved" to within an inch of her life. Yeah, what a freaking hero. What a pos. And now he's throwing himself a pity party because of what SHE allegedly did?

Roid Rage & being an inherently violent asshole is a deadly combination. I hope they throw the book at him. Coward.

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
42. Now that he's caught, it's time to start working on defense strategies
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:19 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:56 PM - Edit history (1)

He had an anabolic steroid blackout? They were rehearsing a scene from their next movie? Her being with another man presented a deadly SOCIAL threat, and he rightfully stood his ground? The fact that he's beaten her previously but she continued to see him proves that she really likes it? It was really her date who beat her up -- that's why he beat HIM up?


rocktivity

Kire

(11,087 posts)
34. I searched google for "Jonathan Koppenhaver" and "men's rights activist"
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 04:47 PM
Aug 2014

There is only one website out there that claims he is a MRA. It's this one.

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
35. This guy doesn't strike me as having the capacity
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:57 PM
Aug 2014

to care about anyone's rights beyond his own.


rocktivity

Kire

(11,087 posts)
44. You can say Fuck MRA all you want, but you have not established that's what the guy is.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 12:14 AM
Aug 2014

if u mad, trumad, u not mad about anything real

good day

 

Regrell

(30 posts)
51. So let me get this straight.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 02:40 AM
Aug 2014

If some asshole called Jews k**es, or black people n***ers, women c**ts, well you get the picture -- are you implying that this hypothetical fuckwad would have to be a card-carrying, forum-posting member of Storm Front, the KKK, or A Voice for Men to be considered a "member" of that group?

Is this seriously your evidentiary bar? His words, his deeds, hell...the clothes he wears and that tattoos he etches into his skin are enough for anyone to make the connection.

Face it, MRA is an ideology, a movement...not a club. And there's a lot of ugly in that culture. If you are trying to disinfect the MRA tag and argue that all the MRA scum want is fair custody hearings and an end to circumcision, my sincere advice is to recognize that it's a losing fight. Either own that the MRA movement is deeply flawed and sick, or distance yourself.

Kire

(11,087 posts)
71. Circular reasoning is bad mostly because it's not very good.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 06:45 PM
Aug 2014

Makes for great talking points, though.

Psephos

(8,032 posts)
83. full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 03:18 PM
Aug 2014

Meanwhile, I'll let you fill in the first part of that sentence.

Some of us prefer a conversation around here, more than the n-millionth self-righteous rant.

If you assume up front the very thing you're trying to argue in favor of, you have by definition committed a circumlocution.

Consider that the spectrum of men is broad, and that there are legitimate discussions about perceived inequities to be had without dragging in MMA, KKK, and Storm Front.


nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
46. Her face was basically pulverized. Numerous broken bones, can't chew food, will need surgery
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 01:51 AM
Aug 2014

I would think. Absolutely horrible what he did to her - though really, that should go without saying.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
53. She was in the apartment with another guy when Koppenhaver showed up.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 05:01 AM
Aug 2014

She said, she was with another guy in a non-sexual situation when Koppenhaver busted in, beat him up and kicked him out.

Why didn't that guy call the cops?

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
55. I hope she heals fully
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 05:21 AM
Aug 2014

Mentally and physically.

Hurts the heart to see this.

Let's just hope another hating hater is locked up. Dude is a true narcissist, too.




rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
77. From his 2011 prison blog: Is this what is meant by men's rights advocacy?
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 07:22 PM
Aug 2014
So it's Christmas day and I'm laying in my bunk wondering "Why in the hell do American men get married!?"

As I write this, there is one guy in here for slapping his wife, one here for yelling at his wife, and one here for beating some guy's ass that disrespected his wife. WTF!? If your wife is being a bitch you can't slap her, if your wife is yelling at you, God forbid you yell back, and if some asshole hurts your wife, you cannot protect her! LMFAO! What in the FUCK! is REALLY going on!? Next thing you know it will be illegal to fuck your wife! LMAO!

Maybe then, MEN in this country will get the fucking hint and MOVE! This country forces you to be a bitch! And then if you resist, you go to jail! And if you give in and become a passive lil' pansy, your wife is gonna sneak around and get fucked by someone like a single War Machine! HAHA! And believe me, in my day, I have fucked more than one wife who complained about being "sick and tired of wearing the pants in the family..."

http://wmweek25.blogspot.com/


His writings are still at Blogger.com. At least he can look forward to starting it up again.


rocktivity

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
78. Whip out your handkerchiefs and cue the DU "Cry Me A River" String Quartet
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 08:59 PM
Aug 2014
Koppenhaver's attorney: 'My client is not a monster'

Koppenhaver's lawyer, Brandon Sua, gave a statement to KTLA:

An attorney for Koppenhaver said his client has struggled with the response to the allegations against him.

"The hardest thing for my client is seeing the responses from the media, the public. There's been a lot of statements on one side," said attorney Brandon Sua. "The media has done a good job of painting my client as a monster, but my client is not a monster. He is a good guy."

A statement would come "when the time is right," Sua said, adding that his client did not do "anything illegal."

It's not illegal to beat up female porn stars? Why -- because they're not "nice girls" like the one who turned him in?

The woman responsible for the capture of War Machine says she's dying of cancer and has decided to pay the $20K reward forward.

Mary Casamento was staying at the same hotel where War Machine was hiding...she heard commotion and saw a woman run out of his room -- bloodied. She called cops, who came and arrested him.

Mary scored...$10K from Christy's family and an equal amount from "Pawn Stars" star Corey Harrison -- but she's not cashing in...(S)he says she's dying of cancer and has decided to...give the dough to a Santa Clarita, CA battered women's shelter...


Casamento is a hero, a class act AND a lady -- certainly more so than the victim, according to these commenters on the subject of Christy Mack getting offers of free reconstructive surgery and nearly $100K in donations:

Tell that whore to get a job like everybody else. Again, it's the men in her life and her life style that she chooses that gets her into these predicaments...a whore is a whore and gets no respect or money from me.

Ladies need to learn a lesson. Tattoos and Rockstar dudes will lead to living in a trailer park and beatings.

People are in need ...REAL need out there why can't these bitches and hoe's raise money for that....

She was treated like a dirty hoe cause she (is) one. What's the problem???


The classic defense strategy in these cases is to destroy the credibility of the victim and/or render her too morally repulsive to "qualify" for justice. Fortunately for Mack, Koppehaver is a slutty porn star in his own right with twelve films to his credit!



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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
79. Glad to see Casamento finally mentioned here...
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 11:45 PM
Aug 2014

she seems like the real heroine in this whole mess. And right under the great Dog's nose she turned him in, she did.

I have never understood the need to blame the victim. Sure, once in a while "victims" get their just (nonviolent, please) rewards and it's a cool story, but violence is never justified. Never. I know guys who have been pushed up to the line by crazy women, but it's a line you don't cross. This doesn't even seem like that-- he's just a sadistic, mean bastard who gets off beating people up.


 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
86. He's a diseased lunatic. The general consensus on several martial arts forums I am on is
Sat Aug 30, 2014, 11:14 PM
Aug 2014

to take him out and shoot him like the rabid animal he is.

We had one or two misogynist types defending him, was quite fun watching them get ripped to shreds or get invited to a match to see how they would like such a beating.

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
88. 9/2014 Update from Christy
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 10:51 PM
Sep 2014

Last edited Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:51 AM - Edit history (7)

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Via Instagram:
...I've had several dentist visits to make eating more comfortable and make my smile look more normal...I've...(been) made aware that I'm very lucky to have my vision...since the muscle is tethered by the fragments from the blowout fracture in my left eye.

My multiple nose fractures will be fixed in the next couple of months...(It has)...shifted on the inside...causing breathing issues...My top lip will regain movement in less than 6 months... looking forward to using straws again. My liver seems to be all right. I was admitted back to the hospital shortly after I was released the first time for some minor treatment...

Cutting what was left of my hair off, and losing 15 lbs (it's a lot when you're 5'1") made me feel even further away from myself. It's hard to look in the mirror every day and see someone you do not know... (H)aving makeup done and dressing up for yesterday's charity event...made me feel more normal and beautiful for the first time in a very long time.

The event that I went to was for Face Forward, a non-profit charity that funds...(reconstructive) surgeries for women and children...They are not funding me, my surgeries are being donated by other doctors. I met many wonderful people and look forward to working more with them in the future.


Meanwhile, Christy's accused assailant War "Jonathan Koppenhaver" Machine sits in jail awaiting trial on 32 charges including "attempted murder, sexual assault, battery, coercion, preventing or dissuading a witness or victim from reporting a crime, and first-degree kidnapping resulting in substantial bodily harm." If he's having trouble raising bail and legal fees, he could try his hand at suing this guy since War Machine really is his legal name:

Wendell Oliveira (made) his UFC debut...but...had to answer several questions regarding Jonathan Koppenhaver’s alleged assault of ex-girlfriend Christy Mack.

Oliveira and Koppenhaver are both known as "War Machine," and some fans thought the Brazilian veteran was the one accused of the brutal assault.

"That was awful," Oliveira (said). "When the news came out, a lot of friends called me asking what happened because the stories had no photo in Brazil...We’re not the same person."

Oliveira...doesn’t plan to get rid of the "War Machine" nickname. "I won’t change my nickname because I’m the real 'war machine'...I honor this name, he doesn’t honor the sport. He has to find a new nickname for himself."



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89. 10/20 Update: Suicide attempt and note from Koppenhaver
Mon Oct 20, 2014, 03:21 PM
Oct 2014

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IBTimes.com: (A) corrections officer...discovered (Koppenhaver) in his cell with a piece of linen tied to his bed and around his neck. He was described as being purple in the face and unresponsive. The officer cut the cloth away and the former fighter began breathing again...


The Raw Story: In the note, War Machine — born Jonathan Koppenhaver — apologized to his friends and family for the violent beating and sexual assault of Christy Mack. He begins with a quotation from the German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche — “to die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly” — before bragging that despite the fact that he’s dead, he “experienced more in my short life than 5 average men combined.”

War Machine then tells the woman he’s charged with having beaten and raped, “I loved you more than freedom,” and that he forgives her for having “cheated” on him after they had broken up. “I forgive you,” he wrote, “please forgive me.” Using language associated with the Men’s Rights Movement, he implores his brother to “keep alpha male sh*t alive.” He tells his friends he loves them, writing “may my strength be with you.”

All of this sharing of his strength and Men’s Rights bromides, however, left War Machine “crying like a lil’ b*tch.” The case against him, he wrote, is “f*cking ridiculous.” “They wanna charge me with battery and (domestic violence)? Fine, do it, but don’t railroad me with B.S. fantasy charges...I’m a good person with a huge heart,” he continued, “and everyone who knows me know that, especially Christy,” whose face he broke, teeth he knocked out, and liver ruptured — and who he suggested will be pressured by “her scumbag agent” to testify against him for money.

He concluded his portion of the letter by asking its intended recipients “to remember me for my times of strength,” and noting that “society has killed men, I was never meant to live in this era anyway. Follow your dreams and think for yourselves.” War Machine signed off with another quote from Nietzsche, “verily, I often laugh at the weaklings who think themselves good because they have no claws.” He has been in medical isolation on suicide watch since he attempted to take his own life, and is due in court for a preliminary hearing on the 32 charges against him on November 14, 2014.


MMA News: It is one thing to catch a case when you set out to commit a crime, but catching a case when you have nothing but good intentions in your heart is just so hard to accept. The severity of the charges makes it that much worse.

They wanna charge me with battery and DV? Fine, do it, but don’t railroad me with B.S. fantasy charges like: rape! Attempted murder! Kidnapping! And burglary! It’s ****ing ridiculous. And it’s making it impossible for justice.

Entering a home where you do not live without consent and committing a crime is grounds for being charged with burglary. In Nevada, not allowing someone to call the police or leave a residence is grounds for being charged with kidnapping (for which OJ Simpson is serving 8-30 years). The probability that you would have continued to beat Christy if she hadn't escaped is grounds for being charged with attempted murder. And you're not being charged with rape, but with "open and gross lewdness." Christy says you told her that you INTENDED to have sex with her whether she wanted to or not -- but you couldn't, to put it charitably, "get started." And you call yourself an alpha male!

Unfortunately, War Machine is right about one thing: If he can convince his jury that Christy had sent him too many "mixed signals" about the status of their relationship, or that he'd purchased an engagement ring because they'd reunited, they really could decide that his reaction been "provoked" and he had not acted "unreasonably."


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90. Updates (Trial set for 2/17)
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 06:30 PM
Dec 2014

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11/15/2014: Mixed martial artist War Machine faced a preliminary hearing in Clark County District Court in Las Vegas Nov. 15...Christy Mack and her friend Corey Thomas...testified during the hearing.

Thomas said he ended up in the hospital with a broken nose and dislocated shoulder...Mack detailed her injuries from the night of the assault...She also said he threatened to kill her and her family several times...

After Mack confirmed there had been sexual violence, War Machine laughed and shook his head. The defense objected to a request by the prosecutor for War Machine’s reaction to be on the record. However, Judge Melanie Andress-Tobiasson saw it clearly. “I watched him laugh,” the judge said.

War Machine is due back in court to be arraigned on Thursday, Nov. 20...

Mack has stated publicly that War Machine had threatened to have sex with her whether she wanted to or not, but couldn't quite, uh, get started. Did he laugh because it's so obvious that he could have had sex with her if he'd wanted to? This could be the big break in the case that the defense needs!

11/20/2014: Jonathan Paul Koppenhaver, 33, spoke during his brief arraignment in Nevada state court to acknowledge that he understood the 34 felony charges against him, and to enter his plea. Charges include attempted murder, kidnapping, sexual assault, attempted sexual assault, battery, strangulation and coercion. He told a judge at his initial Nevada court appearance in September that he would use the name Koppenhaver in court...

(The) Clark County District Court Hearing Master...set trial for Feb. 17 (2015) before Judge Elissa Cadish.

12/3/2014: ...(A) judge revoked his probation yesterday and has invoked a 1 1/2 - 4 year sentence she had originally suspended in 2012. The probation was conditional on his not leaving Nevada, however, during his stint of evading arrest in August, he left the state and was eventually captured in a Los Angeles hotel...

His attorney, Brandon Sua...said the prison sentence had no immediate practical effect since his client already is being held without bail in isolation at the Clark County jail.

Koppenhaver didn't simply leave Nevada to avoid arrest, he packed his things and moved to San Diego months earlier-- didn't his probation officer notice?

As for the "immediate practical effect," he won't be getting out of jail for up to four years even if he's acquitted of the current charges -- oh, and the judge has the option of NOT giving him credit for the time he's served prior the revocation. So unless you're planning to plead incompetence or insanity, you'd better start minding your manners, Laughing Boy -- especially since you'll be in front of a female trial judge!

Video of 11/15 testimony including 911 call (Graphic/Trigger warning):




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91. 2/17 Update: Trial Postponed -- on account of divine interventon?
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 12:00 AM
Feb 2015

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The trial was supposed to start today, but the most recent story I can find online find is this:

Jezebel.com: MMA fighter and alleged domestic abuser War Machine is awaiting trial on charges that he beat ex-girlfriend Christy Mack nearly to death. War Machine's brother Michael has been issuing jailhouse letters from War Machine on the fighter's Twitter page:

Just so you all know I have been to jail two other times, for one year each time, so it isn't "jail" that made me find Jesus -- otherwise I'd have found him before, and this trouble that I am now in would have never happened...I have found him because: I finally woke up! Period.

Yeah, it took a horrible situation to wake me up, but I was deaf and blind to the truth, so He did what needed to be done, and I'm happy for that. Had I not woken up, I'd be sitting in here brooding, hating, and plotting "revenge"...The time comes when you have to realize that a life of sin will continue to lead you to pitfalls, and you must change. I have tried "changing", tried being "good" in my eyes. Of course it failed – good can only be measured in God's eyes.

When I get out things will be so different for me. Before I lived for sex. Hundreds and hundreds of women...I was popular, people wanted my picture...(But) it was never enough...it never really made me happy inside.

The way of evil is not the business...Don't mess with that Instagram crap, don't watch porn, all that stuff just makes you lustful and causes you to forsake what you already have. I ruined...my relationship with Christy because of lust...

That's right, brothers and sisters -- War Machine has done got religion, and just in time for the trial! It would sure explain why it hasn't started as scheduled. It's a miracle -- Praise the Lord!!!

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92. 2/18/15 Update: See you in September
Thu Feb 19, 2015, 12:05 AM
Feb 2015

Last edited Fri Nov 24, 2023, 04:50 PM - Edit history (3)

Trial (Re)set for War Machine in Vegas attempted murder case

During a pre-trial status check on Wednesday, Las Vegas Justice Court Judge Elissa Cadish set the start of War Machine's trial for Sept. 28.

War Machine, which is the legal name for Jonathan Koppenhaver, pleaded not guilty to 34 felony charges including attempted murder, sexual assault, battery and coercion. He faces up to life in prison if convicted.

Another pre-trial hearing was also set for April 22.

A raw deal? It would be if The Machine couldn't afford or wasn't offered bail. But remember that he is now serving up to four years of hard time for his parole violations -- he's not getting out for at least eighteen months no matter what happens.


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93. 11/1/15 UPDATE: Trial Moved to July 2016
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 09:58 PM
Nov 2015

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Fox5Vegas: Clark County District Court Judge Elissa Cadish granted a motion requested by War Machine's attorney just a week before jury selection was slated to begin in the fighter's assault case. The trial was reset to July 11, 2016. A pre-trial status check was scheduled for Nov. 23...

The defense team cited the need for time to test knives related to the case as part of its request to postpone. In addition, the 2016 date was the first available time to accommodate potential witnesses involved with both sides.

Cadish earlier rejected a defense request to challenge Nevada's rape shield law and let the jury hear evidence of prior consensual sexual relations between him and Mackinday.

It's taken them this long to get around to testing the forensics? And getting rid of the rape shield would prove what? That he doesn't know the difference between sex and assault, or that he had a constitutional right to beat her up for not being home alone?


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94. They're going with the "only nice girls deserve justice" defenese
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 01:07 AM
Nov 2015
BloodyElbow.com, Aug. 8: (According to) Koppenhaver's attorney Brandon Sua..."The media has done a good job of painting my client as a monster, but...(h)e is a good guy."

...Sua...add(ed) that his client did not do "anything illegal."

It's not illegal to beat up a porn star? Why -- because Mack's not a "nice girl," or because "her kind" think violence is sexy? Mack has been accused of not being worthy of public sympathy -- someone went as far as to suggest that her donations would be better spent on disfigured war veterans!

However, if Sua can convince the jury that she deceived or provoked Koppenhaver by sending him "mixed signals" about their relationship, they might decide that Mack doesn't "qualify" for justice; that she merely experienced a "consequence" of her "chosen lifestyle."


Fox5 Las Vegas, Sept. 21: (The judge)...rejected a defense request to challenge Nevada's rape shield law (in order to) let the jury hear evidence of prior consensual sexual relations between him and Mackinday.

Which would have proven what? That he doesn't know the difference between sex and assault, or that he had a constitutional right to beat her up for not being home alone?


Las Vegas Review-Journal: (During a November 24) hearing on (the) sexual assault charges against...Jonathan Koppenhaver...defense lawyers argued...that alleged victim Christine Mackinday had made false rape allegations in the past...(They) also argued (that) Mackinday's work in pornography pointed to consent...her "desire, the preference, the acceptability towards a particular form of sex activities that were outside of the norm..."

Koppenhaver met Mackinday while making an adult movie...(They) often engaged in rough sex..."The jury needs to know the nature of...what was customary and consensual," Sua said outside the courtroom.

WHAT??? Mr. Sua, I was being SARCASTIC!!! But if you're going to insist on taking legal advice from me, I'll have to insist on being paid a consulting fee!


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95. War Machine: 36 To Life Sentence for Beating Ex
Fri Apr 13, 2018, 11:20 AM
Apr 2018
TMZ (6/2017): ...(F)or the heinous 2014 beating of his ex-girlfriend...(f)ormer MMA fighter War Machine is going to prison for life, with possibility of parole...after 36 years when he is 71...

War Machine's ex, porn star Christy Mack, made a tearful plea to the court..."I do know that when he gets out he will kill me."

(War Machine)...(said) he hates himself for committing the beating. He compared himself to Aaron Hernandez, and reminded the judge of his own attempted suicide after he was arrested in 2014.

That should give him plenty of time for having second thoughts about turning down an 18-to-40 year plea deal. But it sounds like he still doesn't get it -- much to my delight. Anyhoo, cue the guy with the Dragnet hammer...




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