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bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:03 PM Aug 2014

‘Sons of Guns’ reality TV star arrested on child molestation charge

"A Baton Rouge gun dealer known nationally as the star of Discovery Channel’s reality television show “Sons of Guns” was arrested over the weekend, accused of recently molesting a girl at his Greenwell Springs Road home.

William “Will” Hayden, the show’s 49-year-old star, spent Friday night in the East Baton Rouge Parish Prison before leaving sometime Saturday after posting a $150,000 bail on counts of molestation of a juvenile and aggravated crimes against nature, booking records show.

Sheriff’s deputies arrested Hayden on Friday based partly on accusations made by a woman who told investigators that on Aug. 4 she saw Hayden inappropriately kissing the girl while he was undressed, according to a deputy’s statement attached to the warrant for Hayden’s arrest."

http://theadvocate.com/news/9965583-123/sons-of-guns-star-arrested

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‘Sons of Guns’ reality TV star arrested on child molestation charge (Original Post) bullwinkle428 Aug 2014 OP
Interesting, will have to wait and see the evidence. dilby Aug 2014 #1
Oh, pray tell where did you read that? LeftyMom Aug 2014 #5
What have you read that leads you you to believe as such? LanternWaste Aug 2014 #6
The article that was linked. dilby Aug 2014 #12
Then little more than a guess based on bias... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #17
I said I will wait to see the evidence. dilby Aug 2014 #18
You also said it sounds like he's innocent. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #20
Yes I did, from the evidence presented it sounds like he is. dilby Aug 2014 #22
At the bare minimum (no pun intended), wouldn't you at least admit bullwinkle428 Aug 2014 #24
When you put it like that yeah. dilby Aug 2014 #25
point to be made onethatcares Aug 2014 #27
I think everyone has seen their parents or grandparents in their skivies. dilby Aug 2014 #28
Interesting that neither he or the girl denies that Hayden kissed her BainsBane Aug 2014 #2
Trying to infer from what scant real information was provided in the article theHandpuppet Aug 2014 #4
It's hard to know her age BainsBane Aug 2014 #9
They also said the possible sentencing he's facing is consistent with under 13 victims opiate69 Aug 2014 #13
So they did BainsBane Aug 2014 #15
You're welcome. opiate69 Aug 2014 #16
How's that saying go about guns mikeysnot Aug 2014 #3
Why don't you tells us. nt. IronGate Aug 2014 #7
Nevermind him BainsBane Aug 2014 #11
I'd like to hear his saying. nt. IronGate Aug 2014 #14
WTF? mikeysnot Aug 2014 #29
You always appear to know it all HangOnKids Aug 2014 #32
There's a lot of disgusting people in gun culture. nt conservaphobe Aug 2014 #8
There's alot of disgusting people in the world period. nt. IronGate Aug 2014 #10
I imagine I'd do my best to disassociate this cretin from a passionate and shared demographic too. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author IronGate Aug 2014 #21
His owning firearms has nothing to do with his possibly being a pedophile, IronGate Aug 2014 #23
they just dont call themselves... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #26
He is a responsible gun owner, ie: he handles an stores his weapons responsibly, IronGate Aug 2014 #30
No I am sorry.....a pedophile is not responsible.....gun or otherwise...he cannot control himself VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #31
Where did he kiss her? aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #33

dilby

(2,273 posts)
1. Interesting, will have to wait and see the evidence.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 02:45 PM
Aug 2014

From what I read it sounds like he maybe innocent but who knows.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. What have you read that leads you you to believe as such?
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:26 PM
Aug 2014

What have you read that leads you you to believe as such?

dilby

(2,273 posts)
12. The article that was linked.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:33 PM
Aug 2014

Says it was a former employee who accused him which can make it a false accusation out of spite.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
18. I said I will wait to see the evidence.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:43 PM
Aug 2014

People can make up their mind either way but till it goes to trial all the speculation in the world does not matter. The jury will make the decision and I could be correct or I could be wrong but I am not going to tar and feather someone till I see the evidence.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
22. Yes I did, from the evidence presented it sounds like he is.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:53 PM
Aug 2014

Former employees making accusations is not unheard of, however I am not dead set that he is innocent I would like to wait till I have all the evidence till I make a firm conclusion. But even with that I could be wrong and the jury could find him, innocent, guilty or it could never go to trial.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
24. At the bare minimum (no pun intended), wouldn't you at least admit
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 04:54 PM
Aug 2014

that it's incredibly creepy? 49-year-old man in his underwear slobbering all over a girl under the age of 13?

dilby

(2,273 posts)
25. When you put it like that yeah.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 05:06 PM
Aug 2014

But if it was his granddaughter who he pecked on the head when she came into his room in the morning then not so much. Context of the situation can help to determine what may have or have not happened.

onethatcares

(16,166 posts)
27. point to be made
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 06:11 PM
Aug 2014

do not, repeat, do not allow your granddaughter into your room if you are standing there in your skivvies and then give her a kiss on the head.

much easier to have the door closed and say, "give me a minute, I'll be right out"

Context of the situation can help to determine what may or may have not happened but maybe it's just me, I would not let my granddaughter see me in my boxers....................................................no matter her age.

dilby

(2,273 posts)
28. I think everyone has seen their parents or grandparents in their skivies.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 06:18 PM
Aug 2014

And it's not sexual in the least so there is no reason to start acting because you are in your underwear like it is something sexual.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
4. Trying to infer from what scant real information was provided in the article
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:25 PM
Aug 2014

But it appears the girl may have been under the age of 13? If that's the case, I'd consider that abuse whether the girl said she was abused or not. She may not even know what constitutes abuse -- many young girls don't, unfortunately.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
9. It's hard to know her age
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:32 PM
Aug 2014

They said suspected of abuse of a minor. Is there a separate designation for child? 12-13 is usually the cut-off age in terms of the severity of charges.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
13. They also said the possible sentencing he's facing is consistent with under 13 victims
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:34 PM
Aug 2014
If charged and convicted on the count of aggravated crimes against nature, Hayden would face a prison sentence of 25 years to 99 years in prison.

The penalties accompany a conviction when the victim is younger than 13 and the perpetrator is older than 17 under amendments to state law proposed this spring by legislators and later signed into law by Gov. Bobby Jindal that recently went into effect.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
19. I imagine I'd do my best to disassociate this cretin from a passionate and shared demographic too.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:44 PM
Aug 2014

I imagine I'd do my best to disassociate this cretin from a passionate and shared demographic too.

Response to LanternWaste (Reply #19)

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
23. His owning firearms has nothing to do with his possibly being a pedophile,
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 03:56 PM
Aug 2014

lots of people non gun owning people have been arrested and convicted for molestation.
Associating pedophilia and firearm ownership is false and wrong.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
26. they just dont call themselves...
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 06:01 PM
Aug 2014

"Responsible" gun owners like this guy....If guilty should he br considered "resonsible" at anything...

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
30. He is a responsible gun owner, ie: he handles an stores his weapons responsibly,
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 12:00 PM
Aug 2014

now, he may be a POS pedophile, that remains to be seen, but that has nothing to do with his owning firearms.
BTW, if he's convicted, his right to own firearms goes bye bye.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
31. No I am sorry.....a pedophile is not responsible.....gun or otherwise...he cannot control himself
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 06:10 PM
Aug 2014

someone without self control has no business near weapons.....period.

Some people do not know what the word "responsible" even means...and I am from the deep South...MOST that I know do not keep their guns responsibly....just the way it is...

Take a trip down south and SEE for yourself.

if MOST gun owners were truly responsible....we wouldn't have nearly the amount of children with access to those weapons killing themselves and others...

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
33. Where did he kiss her?
Wed Aug 13, 2014, 06:52 PM
Aug 2014

I'm not asking that out of a prurient interest but I think it's relevant. If he kissed her on top of the head, for example, that happened frequently when I was a kid. Kids would often get kissed on the head by adults. Many times I was in a store or the bank when I was a young boy and strangers would pat my head out of the blue or muss my hair. Nowadays, i know it's a different world. Strangers don't even look young people in the eyes fearing that mere friendliness towards a kid might get misinterpreted. And I'm certainly not suggesting sexually-motivated touching by adults doesn't occur. More than the kissing (as I don't know enough about it) I'd be more concerned about a middle aged man being in a state of semi undress while in the girl's presence, unless she was a family member. My dad always hung around the house in his boxer shorts.

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