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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNavy force to remove bibles from Navy run hotels. Faux Noose is upset.
The News Boob says, "Atheists hate Christianity.....Would atheists sue the government if it was the Koran?"
http://www.charter.net/tv/3/player/vendor/Fox%20News/player/embedded/asset/fox_news-navy_pulling_bibles_from_hotels_on_bases-foxnews
No. You lower IQ than a rock subsurface worm idiots. (Sorry about that worms.) We don't live in a theocracy. That's a four syllable word meaning 'government run by one religion'. But I understand. Four syllable words are hard for worms. Iran is a theocracy. Get it?
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)I'm going to throw it in the shit can!
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)Have you ever stayed in a hotel room that didn't have a Bible?
I've never met a Gideon, but I will volunteer they are extremely persistent people.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)useless phone directory (if one) on top of them.
lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)Damn I hope so.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Is it their job to convert people?
Brigid
(17,621 posts)That does not make my home a church.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)All I can say is, good luck with that. Google Katcoff v. Marsh (1985) for further details.
agentS
(1,325 posts)If Christians can't travel without their 'bible' then they can put the Bible in book or app form on their phone/tablet/whatever.
Problem solved.
Fox News can go back to shouting about BergGanzi or whatever they mad at this week.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)I don't dare ask why we do...
This should be a matter for the enlisted people to choose, they can have Bibles or whatever they want as reading material, I'm guessing.
O'Really will weigh in any minute now. And say something perfectly awful, guaranteed.
BTW, I can't get that link to work at all. May just be my computer. So sorry if the link showed Brillo going batshit as I didn't see it.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)But govt money should not be spent putting one in every room. Separation of church and state.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)The organization provides them to the hotel for free.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)This whole bible in a hotel/motel room wackadoodle idea should go away anyway, even in private life. We are not a christian nation.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)was your separation of church and state issue. Perhaps I misread it.
cui bono
(19,926 posts)Either way it is separation of church and state.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)But my guess is these are Gideon bibles, placed there by an organization that has been placing Bibles in hospital and hotel rooms for over a century called Gideons International. Usually they are in desk drawers. If I am right, that means the Gideons, not the Navy, paid for them. Don't read if you don't want to. I don't see what the big deal is.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)It's on Government property!
Brigid
(17,621 posts)There are bibles and other religious texts, plus other religious articles on military bases and other government property.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Not paid for by the government, though paid for by people with their government paychecks.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)who you gonna complain too!
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)They've put out millions of Bibles in hotel rooms around the world. They used to go to schools and distribute them there as well. I doubt that they're allowed to go to the public schools anymore, though. I've also seen Books of Mormon in hotel rooms. A different organization besides the Gideons does that, however.
The question I have is, would they allow a Muslim organization to distribute Korans in their rooms? I doubt most of the hotel chains would. The Navy probably would have before they changed their policy on Bibles.
I see these "holy" books as tools for proselytizing. I think it's absurd that they have Bibles and Books of Mormon and all these other religious books, but they don't have Mother Goose to read to the kids. What about great works of literature? Why don't they have any Hemingway or Faulkner or Shakespeare? They don't have those books because they aren't conversion tools.
GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)...their (Fox"News" viewers sure as hell would. And, no doubt they'd raise a massive stink over it.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)do they still do that or do you have to wait till you stay at the Navy Lodge to read it?
Brigid
(17,621 posts)I went through back in 1980, and was not issued one.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I didn't want one.
Instead of attending church, I got to cut grass on Sundays.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)In those days you had to pretend you were religious or you would be punished!
LuvNewcastle
(16,844 posts)on your side before they sent you off to kill people.
Blue Idaho
(5,048 posts)A copy of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights? That way they could study up on exactly what they are defending beside some vague fucked up bullshit notion of "Liberty" and "Freedoms."