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kpete

(71,964 posts)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:39 PM Apr 2012

Wisconsin State Senator Says Women Are Paid Less Because ‘Money Is More Important For Men’

Wisconsin State Senator Says Women Are Paid Less Because ‘Money Is More Important For Men’
By Travis Waldron on Apr 9, 2012 at 3:07 pm

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) quietly repealed his state’s equal pay law last week, a decision that will make it harder for victims of wage discrimination to sue for lost earnings and back wages. The law was enacted primarily to address the massive pay gap that exists between male and female workers, which is even bigger in Wisconsin than in other states.

Repealing the law was a no-brainer for state Sen. Glenn Grothman (R), who led the effort because of his belief that pay discrimination is a myth driven by liberal women’s groups. Ignoring multiple studies showing that the pay gap exists, Grothman blamed females for prioritizing childrearing and homemaking instead of money, saying, “Money is more important for men,” The Daily Beast reports:

Whatever gaps exist, he insists, stem from women’s decision to prioritize childrearing over their careers. “Take a hypothetical husband and wife who are both lawyers,” he says. “But the husband is working 50 or 60 hours a week, going all out, making 200 grand a year. The woman takes time off, raises kids, is not go go go. Now they’re 50 years old. The husband is making 200 grand a year, the woman is making 40 grand a year. It wasn’t discrimination. There was a different sense of urgency in each person.” [...]

Grothman doesn’t accept these studies. When I ran the numbers by him, he replied, “The American Association of University Women is a pretty liberal group.” Nor, he argued, does its conclusion take into account other factors, like “goals in life. You could argue that money is more important for men. I think a guy in their first job, maybe because they expect to be a breadwinner someday, may be a little more money-conscious. To attribute everything to a so-called bias in the workplace is just not true.”


more:
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/04/09/460917/wisconsin-state-senator-money-less-important-wome/

His source:
He continues, “What you’ve got to look at, and Ann Coulter has looked at this, is you have to break it down by married and unmarried. Once you break it down by married and unmarried, the differential disappears.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/07/wisconsin-s-repeal-of-equal-pay-rights-adds-to-battles-for-women.html
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Wisconsin State Senator Says Women Are Paid Less Because ‘Money Is More Important For Men’ (Original Post) kpete Apr 2012 OP
So I guess single parents headed cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #1
Didn't you know that one of his colleague's said that women should stay with their southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #10
K&R n/t Tx4obama Apr 2012 #2
Ask for his autograph...it'd be worth it to see him have to lift those knuckles off the ground... joeybee12 Apr 2012 #3
But what about all that shopping? KamaAina Apr 2012 #4
But women get charged the same rent that men do LiberalEsto Apr 2012 #5
I'm sorry Mr. Grothman, I didn't quite catch that. MissMarple Apr 2012 #6
Not only clueless but outright stupid. There is just no getting around it, many RKP5637 Apr 2012 #11
I hope that ALL women in this idiots district votes him out. How dare he be so stupid. southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #7
WTF rock does this butt head live under anyway. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2012 #8
Read my signature line BlueJazz Apr 2012 #9
ROFLMNBAO!!! You know Blue, my mother used to have two sayings when she got Ecumenist Apr 2012 #18
Thank you much! BlueJazz Apr 2012 #25
All women gotta do is 'Wink, Wink' and Manna falls from Heaven! You heard it here first! freshwest Apr 2012 #12
Unbelievable. hifiguy Apr 2012 #13
Well then, I guess food, clothes, rent etc. should be cheaper for women than it is for men too. appleannie1 Apr 2012 #14
What an antiquated piece of crap. bayareamike Apr 2012 #15
So he bases his belief on an example he created in his own mind. Release The Hounds Apr 2012 #16
And the deathless writing of Ann Coulter gratuitous Apr 2012 #22
WOW?! Really? What about the single mother trying to make a living for herself and her children Justice wanted Apr 2012 #17
Glenn believes single mothers are child abusers. No really, he put it into a bill just like that! Scuba Apr 2012 #21
Equal pay for equal work is the only logical answer. julian09 Apr 2012 #23
But, Republicans aren't engaging in a war on women. They swear. Really. stevenleser Apr 2012 #19
And he wonders why no woman has ever seen fit to marry him. Scuba Apr 2012 #20
I'd look to Ann Coulter as an expert on this, uh-huh, yeah, mm-hmmm, sure, you betcha!...... lastlib Apr 2012 #24
I knew it would be Grothman just from the title n/t dragonlady Apr 2012 #26
Sen. Glenn Grothman. I see. Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #27
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2012 #28
No. intheflow Apr 2012 #29

cindyperry2010

(846 posts)
1. So I guess single parents headed
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:45 PM
Apr 2012

by a female aren't worth a damn and it's their own damn fault. FUCK OFF Sen. Glenn Grothman

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
10. Didn't you know that one of his colleague's said that women should stay with their
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:54 PM
Apr 2012

husband beaters. Remember what you loved about them when you first got married. That is what the hell the people are living with. Here I use to think people in WI and Minn. were very smart people. Now they vote down voting republican.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
3. Ask for his autograph...it'd be worth it to see him have to lift those knuckles off the ground...
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:46 PM
Apr 2012

in order to be able to sign his name.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
5. But women get charged the same rent that men do
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:48 PM
Apr 2012

and we pay the same price for food, gasoline, etc.

This is such crap, and I'm astonished that they're still using the same tired excuses.

Back in the mid-70s I was making $125 a week as a newspaper reporter.
Someone told me the men in the office were all paid $150, $25 a week more than the women.
I went blasting into an editorial board meeting (all the editors & reporters) and demanded to know whether I could get a $25 raise if I had a sex change operation.

Jaws dropped when I explained. All the women were furious. One retired editor bleated that men needed more money because they needed to support families.

I replied that the male reporters all happened to be single, and that food and rent and utilities cost the same for all of us.

They set up a non-gender-based pay scale as a result.

MissMarple

(9,656 posts)
6. I'm sorry Mr. Grothman, I didn't quite catch that.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:48 PM
Apr 2012

Would you repeat that, please?

These guys are sooo....clueless...I can't stand it. I'm going to have to sit on the floor.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
11. Not only clueless but outright stupid. There is just no getting around it, many
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:54 PM
Apr 2012

supposed leaders in this country are bullies, sociopaths, clueless and many are outright stupid. If we keep this supply of politicians like this guy up, America had best hope some benevolent country adopts America for the 21st century.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
18. ROFLMNBAO!!! You know Blue, my mother used to have two sayings when she got
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 06:04 PM
Apr 2012

"exasperated", " you're going to make me lose my religion" and "you're lucky I have Jesus" We knew that she was about 3 inches away from tearing us into strips.. So, at least in my mom's case, your tagline is SERIOUS and TRUE!!

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
13. Unbelievable.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:55 PM
Apr 2012

But entirely expected, coming from a repuke. If this guy's brains were petrol it wouldn't power a gnat's motorcycle halfway around a BB.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. And the deathless writing of Ann Coulter
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 06:20 PM
Apr 2012

So there! That should shut all those gals up when one of their own agrees with him. Heh, heh. Grothman just noticed that "gals" spelled backwards is "slag." I wonder how he gets elected without any votes from women?

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
17. WOW?! Really? What about the single mother trying to make a living for herself and her children
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 06:04 PM
Apr 2012

because the MAN who was suppose to be the FATHER wants to take that money which is "So Important" to him and spends it on fast cars and whatever instead of taking care of the kids?


I swear we are going a time-wrap back to the freaking 50s.

 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
23. Equal pay for equal work is the only logical answer.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 06:31 PM
Apr 2012

If piece work is involved and your base rate for same work is lower, you get screwed on your labor output, same for overtime. Must be some right to work for less and less state. You get paid for what you do, not for what rest room you use. Whatever a person does with the money they earn is their choice, they earned it, it's theirs. She goes home just as tired as her male counterpart.

lastlib

(23,163 posts)
24. I'd look to Ann Coulter as an expert on this, uh-huh, yeah, mm-hmmm, sure, you betcha!......
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 06:36 PM
Apr 2012

(Ann Coulter, expert! )

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
27. Sen. Glenn Grothman. I see.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 08:11 PM
Apr 2012

Whenever I see an insane RW opinion from Wisconsin, I think of him.

He never disappoints.

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