Elephant in the room re: Michael Brown

[Mojo Electro]

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Is it just me, or is there an entire aspect of this whole event virtually missing.

Practically the most important thing possible right now would be to get to the truth of what happened.

Wouldn't the autopsy, the shell casing evidence, number of shots fired, what distance he was hit from, at what distance be of huge importance right now?

I can understand why the police aren't tripping over their dicks to show it, it's probably very damning. But why aren't reporters even asking about this?

This could be the first time a cop is actually held accountable, and the media just seems transfixed on the protests, the racism, everything but the actual event.

Am I the only one who wants to know about the evidence?

[malaise]

1. The ACLU will have this by tomorrow

Looks like police were trying to hide this. I expect a Friday news dump

[liberalhistorian]

2. It's my understanding that the reporters

ARE asking, HAVE been asking, but are getting nowhere with the Gestapo Goons known as the Ferguson Police Dept. It's also my understanding that said police dept. has refused to interview witnesses or review videos taken. They even tried declaring the skies above Ferguson to be a "no fly" zone to prevent news copters from flying around. They're worse even than the Sanford police in the Trayvon Martin case, and they were pretty bad.

[csziggy]

3. That information will come out when the investigation(s) are done

What SHOULD have been released by now and is being withheld - contrary to Missouri law - is the incident report. The ACLU requested it, was denied and is now suing to get it.

The incident report would give the initially available information - the claims of the officer involved in the shooting and the observations of the officer(s) who surveyed the scene in the first few hours. It should also include initial witness reports but since the police have elected to not interview the eyewitnesses, it can not.

[onecaliberal]

4. I heard the attorney for the parents

Say they were trying to obtain their own autopsy because they didn't trust whatever the city was doing.

[merrily]

5. The police have said that it is still under investigation.

What do you expect the reporters to do?

[Mojo Electro]

6. I don't know...

....maybe mention it at all?

I get that they can't just demand the information.

But they must understand that it is important. The MH370 Speculation Team can't even give that a go?

It just seems odd to me that there has been zero mention of autopsy results in the media. (besides the "he died of gunshot wounds" nonsense... no shit he died of gunshots... but how exactly?? Did a cop shoot him in the back? Shoot him with his hands on the air??)

The media are notorious for picking shit like this to death.

[merrily]

7. "Notorious" is right.

[cui bono]

14. The incident report is supposed to be public. Reporters could try to get it and report

that it's not being released.

The ACLU is actively trying to get it, they've sued the police dept for it today.

[merrily]

15. I thought the OP went beyond the incident report.

[alcibiades_mystery]

8. The incident report, including the shooter's name, is an open record under Missouri law

They will have to release this information as a matter of basic DUE PROCESS.

[AtomicKitten]

9. we'll see the evidence

I have faith in the ACLU.

The arc of the universe better bend toward justice. The world really IS watching.

[DirkGently]

10. Aren't they hiding the police report?

That's kind of the crux right there. And the police are -- apparently illegally -- refusing to turn it over.

Doesn't look good for them. If they had a narrative that worked in the officers' favor, they would have put it out by now.

As it is, it looks like they're busily trying to cook up something to hide behind.

[LiberalElite]

12. I look forward to their

being charged with Obstruction of Justice but I'm not holding my breath...

[nashville_brook]

11. you are certainly not the only one -- that's what on the ground protest are all about

there's a direct relationship between the stonewalling, protests, more stonewalling, more protests, etc.

If the St. Louis County officials handled this with any measure of transparency and accountability, none of last nights chaos would have happened.. like, if Walter White had health insurance there could have been no Heisenberg.

[Bragi]

13. Maybe it isn't hard to figure this out

The cops best case theory would be that young Mr. Brown, uncharacteristically and for no known reason, two days before starting college, while walking down a street with a friend, suddenly decided to reach inside a nearby police car, grab the cop's gun, and maybe do him harm with it. Hmmm. Sound likely?

An alternate theory the police would least like to hear about would be one where the cop in the car thought the lad had dissed him, so he ordered him over to the car, and maybe attempted to pull him in close for a fatherly talk-to. But the kid bolted, against the cop's orders, so the cop, now infuriated, drew and fired his gun from inside the car at the fleeing kid. Then, by now volcanically enraged, he gets out of the car and all but empties his full clip into the lad, killing him dead.

For me, the first theory seems far fetched. Theory two, totally plausible.

And that's why the crooked and incompetent local police are keeping everything as secret as possible, even if it means breaking the law.

[merrily]

16. They are claiming that the cop did not shoot him until after he was

attacked. And that the guy who killed him has a swollen face.

It's funny how they can reveal nothing until the investigation is complete, except things that tend to exonerate the shooter.

If I were that cop, I would show up with a swollen face too.

[Bragi]

17. That would fit theory 2 above

The cop invented the attack after the fact, and shot the lad after he bolted. The first shot from inside the car resulted in a minor head injury to the cop, likely due to stupid shooting. That explains the swollen face.

[merrily]

18. I don't know how he got the swollen face. As I said, if I had shot a 19 year old

dead in front of eyewitnesses, I would make sure I showed up bruised as well. Especially this soon after the NYC chokehold decision. Even if someone had to hit me with a rolling pin or something. (I tend to bruise easily anyway.) Your theory as to how might be correct, but I don't know if anything turns on it. Point is they are saying he was attacked before he shot. But, not really saying because....under investigation.

[Dustlawyer]

19. I wonder who the cop got to punch him in the face to make it look real? I am sure

there were no shortage of volunteers at the station considering the microscope they will all be under now!

[Cali_Democrat]

20. My thoughts exactly. nt

[Strelnikov_]

21. No, no, the 'animals' are rioting . . .

look at the rioting, they are animals, we have to use military tactics to provoke . . . oops . . . prevent more rioting.

LOOK AT THE RIOTING!!!!!