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Why do the dates on Brown robbery stills say June 9, 2014? and not the day Brown was shot? (Original Post) HipChick Aug 2014 OP
Probably a cheap camera and the dates are off and the owner doesn't bother fixing it underpants Aug 2014 #1
or PD lousy editing.. HipChick Aug 2014 #2
i didn't notice the date Faux pas Aug 2014 #3
Blow up a still..upper left corner HipChick Aug 2014 #5
Thanks HipChick Faux pas Aug 2014 #10
Thats the camera # - not the 6th month hexola Aug 2014 #19
I would love for the evidence ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #4
Well that was just my take on a likely reason underpants Aug 2014 #17
Oh, I understand that ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Aug 2014 #6
That's not what the police are claiming. They are saying the sufrommich Aug 2014 #8
Then they are idiots. MineralMan Aug 2014 #11
It's going to be an interesting couple of days as this unfolds. nt sufrommich Aug 2014 #12
The Police Department would go a long way towards ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #31
And I hope they do just that. MineralMan Aug 2014 #36
You could just admit you were wrong, no need to scrub your posts. morningfog Aug 2014 #37
I was wrong. MineralMan Aug 2014 #39
What were you wrong about? eom 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #40
I thought the two incidents happened on different days. MineralMan Aug 2014 #41
Even more reason to just ignore this. AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #20
The shooting was August 9. morningfog Aug 2014 #24
So does the report. herding cats Aug 2014 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Aug 2014 #9
Aug 9 is the one day i see Enrique Aug 2014 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author herding cats Aug 2014 #16
Indeed. A lot of us are asking that about the cigars. AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author redqueen Aug 2014 #30
I thought that was the camera # - in this case CAM 6 (but I think you might be on to something) hexola Aug 2014 #13
Some security cams can be extremely unreliable with time stamps. AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #29
Do you think they may be making it up as they go along? Sounds like it to me..n/t monmouth3 Aug 2014 #15
I hope the U.S. Attorney (and Justice Department) consider very seriously the question VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #18
Here is the think Robbins Aug 2014 #22
Jeffrey Dahmer ate people HipChick Aug 2014 #23
Actually, he wasn't guilty of shoplifting 'cause that would mean he had a trial. nt justiceischeap Aug 2014 #33
well yes Robbins Aug 2014 #35
It doesn't say that. LittleBlue Aug 2014 #21
Kudos for noticing that. AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #27
Because they are unrelated 'incidents.' elleng Aug 2014 #28
They are all the same. The report, the video and the shooting-- all Aug. 9, 2014. morningfog Aug 2014 #32
No, that's not a report of the shooting. The shooting happened on the 10th not the 9th of the video uponit7771 Aug 2014 #38
If robbary was on 9th and shooting 10th Robbins Aug 2014 #42
Yeap, there's no doubt something is wrong... timeline link inside uponit7771 Aug 2014 #43
Your link proves you wrong. pintobean Aug 2014 #44
I see it, it's at the top of the reading to the right of the pic uponit7771 Aug 2014 #47
OK mistake Robbins Aug 2014 #46
The shooting was the 9th. morningfog Aug 2014 #45
I agree notadmblnd Aug 2014 #34

underpants

(182,781 posts)
1. Probably a cheap camera and the dates are off and the owner doesn't bother fixing it
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:01 PM
Aug 2014

The cameras are there for the most basic of recording. No sound. Mostly as a deterrent more than anything.

Faux pas

(14,668 posts)
3. i didn't notice the date
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:09 PM
Aug 2014

can you point me to where it can be seen? I think it's all a bogus pile, it took them too long to come up with this.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
4. I would love for the evidence ...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:29 PM
Aug 2014

placing my client at a crime scene to have the wrong date at the bottom ... and, would wish anyone lots of luck arguing that "it's a cheap camera and the dates are off and the owner doesn't bother fixing it"!

underpants

(182,781 posts)
17. Well that was just my take on a likely reason
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:41 PM
Aug 2014

When I lived in an apartment in Richmond the corner store didn't even have recording equipment but the owner did have a camera by the register. He hadn't gotten robbed since he put it there.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
26. Oh, I understand that ...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:53 PM
Aug 2014

a childhood friend that went on to a career as a car thief told me, the single best anti-car theft device is a decal (posted in a window) saying: "Protected by ..."

He said, it will stop joy-riding, and most professional, car thieves; but if a professional decides he/she wants your car, he/she is going to get it ... in less than 60 seconds ..., regardless of the security system.

Response to HipChick (Original post)

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
8. That's not what the police are claiming. They are saying the
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:32 PM
Aug 2014

video is from 10 minutes before the shooting.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
11. Then they are idiots.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:33 PM
Aug 2014

The police reports and the videos both show the 8/9/2014 date. Someone's either stupid or thinks everyone else is stupid.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
31. The Police Department would go a long way towards ...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:00 PM
Aug 2014

establishing credibility by calling a press conference, and:

1) Disavowing the "robbery angle";

2) Announcing that the Officer, and everyone with knowledge that this "angle" was to be used, has been fired, if not, arrested for conspiring to impede the investigation, and/or cover up what appears to be a wrongful action.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
36. And I hope they do just that.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:10 PM
Aug 2014

I believe that this has now moved out of control of the local people. The national publicity is likely to mean that a real investigation is done. I hope so.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
41. I thought the two incidents happened on different days.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:19 PM
Aug 2014

I was incorrect about that. I'm hopeful a thorough investigation clarifies all of this. Clearly the shooting of this young man was in no way justified, so the investigation is absolutely needed.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
20. Even more reason to just ignore this.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:45 PM
Aug 2014

And I really wish people would begin seeing this for the ruse that it is.


Response to herding cats (Reply #7)

Response to MineralMan (Reply #9)

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
25. Indeed. A lot of us are asking that about the cigars.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:52 PM
Aug 2014

CNN has been saying it was a box. So what DID happen to them? They clearly weren't anywhere around the body. And he very well could not have stuffed a box down his pants, or hid it under his shirt, and backed away with his hands in the air. So...where's the Swishers?

If the cops are so sure that he did DID take them, why don't they at least produce some kind of proof from the scene that they were there?

Ferguson PD stepped in it big time today. They've just raised more questions that won't be so easy to dance around going forward, and whatever goodwill was created by bringing in the state PD could be gone by tonight. This is a blatant attempt to bring this all back on Brown.

Response to herding cats (Reply #7)

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
13. I thought that was the camera # - in this case CAM 6 (but I think you might be on to something)
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:36 PM
Aug 2014

And then the date stamp in "2014.XX.XX" format...

However - the date stamp looks boogered with...I can understand the grainy video - but shouldnt the overlayed time stamp be quite clear...??

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
29. Some security cams can be extremely unreliable with time stamps.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:56 PM
Aug 2014

I worked at a place that had one and the time format was always screwed up. It was 12/31/2005 for the longest time, or some such. It got to be a joke, and was rarely any good at what it was supposed to do. And this was supposedly a state-of-the-art system.

 

VanGoghRocks

(621 posts)
18. I hope the U.S. Attorney (and Justice Department) consider very seriously the question
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:43 PM
Aug 2014

of Obstruction of Justice by the leadership cadre of the Ferguson PD in deciding what charges, if any, to bring and whom to charge.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
22. Here is the think
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:47 PM
Aug 2014

Michael's friend and eyewitness to murder told FBI he did take cigars packs that could fit in you pocket but denied it was strong armed
robbery.

The video stills they brought out may not even be from day of robbery and killing.A good defense lawyer would have field day with
different date on video.

Why did it take so long to bring up robbery and video stills?

Right now all Michael was guilty of Is shoplifting.The altercation on video may be from other day entirely.And if video Is from other time
that pokes holes in claims.

If shoplifting Is punishable by execution a lot of people Including me would be dead.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
35. well yes
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:08 PM
Aug 2014

He hadn't been tried I was making case that only thing you could say that he did wrong was shoplift.There may be some doudt the shoving on video was on day of robbary and shooting.Michael Brown may have simply shoplifted and not strong armed robbary.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
42. If robbary was on 9th and shooting 10th
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:21 PM
Aug 2014

Something Is wrong here.

The police report says clerk told him he had to pay for the mini Cigars and Michael shoved him.If full video shows clerk touching him
first that Is poential hole In Police story.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
46. OK mistake
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:30 PM
Aug 2014

The shooting was on same day as robbary.Still I wish the whole video was out and not just cherypicked stills.

And I wonder how Michael went from being pulled over for jaywalking to being suspect In Robbary and why it took so long for this
robbary story to come out.

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