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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:32 PM Aug 2014

11 Things White People Should Stop Saying To Black People Immediately

http://mic.com/articles/96144/11-things-white-people-should-stop-saying-to-black-people-immediately

Whenever a black youth like Michael Brown gets shot, or a racist blowhard like Donald Sterling gets exposed, many white people on and off the Internet react with remarks brimming with the ugliness of anti-black racism. And it absolutely has to stop.

More often than not, many white people resort to putting the onus back on the people who are experiencing the pain of racism. This tactic often derails the broader conversation, allowing white people to continue ignoring their own biases, and prevents a frank examination of the larger systems and powers accountable for enshrining the dehumanization of and discrimination against blacks and people of color. That larger system is white supremacy, a version of which has little to do with neo-Nazis or the KKK as most would assume.

A growing number of black people have been ruthlessly beaten, shot and killed by white police officers of late, a fact all too easy to gloss over for white people who will continue moving through American life with white privilege. White privilege means not having to deal with the disproportionate impact of police brutality, racial profiling and exclusion from everyday social settings and public accommodations.

Rather than tackle a thorny issue with tact and honesty, however, privilege also allows people to ignore the conversation, mock it or walk away from it altogether. But it doesn't have to be that way. Americans don't have to let this type of ignorance stop us from examining the many subtle, insidious attitudes and beliefs that help perpetuate racism through microaggressions, a term developed by Derald Wing Sue and researchers at Columbia University to explain smaller instances of systemic, cumulative racial indignities.


Then the article gives the 11 examples.
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11 Things White People Should Stop Saying To Black People Immediately (Original Post) gollygee Aug 2014 OP
My favorite: 6. "It's not fair that you all can say the n-word, but we can't." Scuba Aug 2014 #1
I find that one so disturbing loyalsister Aug 2014 #7
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #16
Welcome to DU, Bill O'Reilly! Sheldon Cooper Aug 2014 #17
A few years back flobee1 Aug 2014 #19
The comeback to that is: Why do you want to? Iggo Aug 2014 #24
If you say you're not racist because you have a black friend. Two things... NightWatcher Aug 2014 #2
Is the term AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #3
There are racist Democrats gollygee Aug 2014 #4
So you are attacking Democrats? AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #5
I'm not attacking anyone gollygee Aug 2014 #6
You're the one who brought "Republicans" into the discussion cyberswede Aug 2014 #11
Read the article AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #12
I did read it... cyberswede Aug 2014 #13
Standard Republican talking points AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #15
What bothers him is that she mentioned white people BainsBane Aug 2014 #20
. Iggo Aug 2014 #25
exactly. nt m-lekktor Aug 2014 #31
That does seem to be the logical conclusion. nt el_bryanto Aug 2014 #34
The poster is attacking RACISTS etherealtruth Aug 2014 #26
It's heartbreaking and infuriating that articles like this are still needed REP Aug 2014 #8
yes it is Skittles Aug 2014 #10
Can the person it's said to slap 'em upside the head first? Daemonaquila Aug 2014 #9
I like to visualize spraying them with water like an errant pet. redqueen Aug 2014 #14
OK I literally LOL'ed arcane1 Aug 2014 #18
Love it!!!!! etherealtruth Aug 2014 #28
Perfect response!! 2naSalit Aug 2014 #30
#12) White person : "If Martin Luther King were alive today, he would say..." bullwinkle428 Aug 2014 #21
Yes that is obnoxious gollygee Aug 2014 #22
They still try to claim he was a Republican AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #32
This gives me the cynical giggles Quayblue Aug 2014 #33
"Behold our Progress" :( Cha Aug 2014 #23
K and R etherealtruth Aug 2014 #27
I never say that stuff....but what SHOULD I say? Sedona Aug 2014 #29
Probably just be honest and open about how you feel without excuses el_bryanto Aug 2014 #35
I have black friends... maced666 Aug 2014 #36
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
1. My favorite: 6. "It's not fair that you all can say the n-word, but we can't."
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:46 PM
Aug 2014
But just because some black people have reclaimed the word in their everyday vernacular, or even in their cultural productions, doesn't mean white people get to participate in that same reclamation. White people irrevocably lost that opportunity the day the n-word coincided with lynchings, whippings, mob beatings and police shootings.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
7. I find that one so disturbing
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:24 PM
Aug 2014

Combine it with talking points about black on black crime, and I get the impression that I'm talking to someone who wishes they lived in an era when racism was acceptable.

Response to Scuba (Reply #1)

flobee1

(870 posts)
19. A few years back
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:29 PM
Aug 2014

There was a show on tv that featured Maya Angelou and Dave Chappell and one clip still stands out to me after all this time. "if you take an ounce of poison and put it into a beautiful bottle, it doesn't change the fact that it is still poison"-discussing his use of the n-word

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. If you say you're not racist because you have a black friend. Two things...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:59 PM
Aug 2014

Yes you are and he's not your friend.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
3. Is the term
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:59 PM
Aug 2014

"Republican" interchangeable with the word, "White"?

You seem to get the two terms confused a lot.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
4. There are racist Democrats
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:01 PM
Aug 2014

And there are also lots of well-meaning liberals who unintentionally do racist things sometimes. The terms "non-racist" and "Democrat" are not interchangeable either.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
5. So you are attacking Democrats?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:02 PM
Aug 2014

And accusing them of buying into GOP talking points? Thanks for clearing this up!

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
11. You're the one who brought "Republicans" into the discussion
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:53 PM
Aug 2014

The OP is about white people - no mention of political ideology.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
12. Read the article
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:42 PM
Aug 2014

The 11 points it cites are standard GOP talking points that are repeated on FOX news/Limbaugh/Beck every day. Because the article cites a list of GOP talking points, it should be titled as such.

Have a nice day.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
13. I did read it...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:49 PM
Aug 2014

And the items listed are things all sorts of people say - not just republicans. I didn't see any citation in the article indicating the items were taken from talking points (you realize "cite" has a specific meaning, right?).

I'll defer to the people of color to know who they hear this sort of thing from.

Your implication that gollygee is attacking democrats is ludicrous.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
15. Standard Republican talking points
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:17 PM
Aug 2014

That are openly repeated on FOX news everyday.

'Whites' includes Democrats.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
20. What bothers him is that she mentioned white people
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:20 PM
Aug 2014

and didn't make sure to make him feel better by explicitly excluding Democrats.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
26. The poster is attacking RACISTS
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 10:17 AM
Aug 2014

Actually, she is not even attacking racists, she is asking people to examine their thoughts and their interactions , to identify racist behavior.

It is laudable.

it is very unfortunate when folk will not engage in a little introspection.

REP

(21,691 posts)
8. It's heartbreaking and infuriating that articles like this are still needed
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:41 PM
Aug 2014

It's the 21st century, and we (as a country) haven't grown up enough. I try to do my small part in not being a racist jack off, because duh and my fellow citizens are not my enemy.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
9. Can the person it's said to slap 'em upside the head first?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:00 PM
Aug 2014

It would be fair. It also might just make the point that it's not remotely ok.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
21. #12) White person : "If Martin Luther King were alive today, he would say..."
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:38 PM
Aug 2014

ARGH! This one kills me! I see RW-wackos use this all the time, projecting their own shit onto what a hypothetical MLK would say today.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
32. They still try to claim he was a Republican
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 12:10 PM
Aug 2014

They get angry if you inform them that Jesse Jackson was with him when he was assassinated.

Quayblue

(1,045 posts)
33. This gives me the cynical giggles
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 12:11 PM
Aug 2014

If MLK were alive today...

I call bullshit on RW'ers being on MLK's team if he were still here today. Ugh.

Sedona

(3,769 posts)
29. I never say that stuff....but what SHOULD I say?
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 11:11 AM
Aug 2014

My heart breaks whenever atrocities like Mike Brown or Trayvon Martin happen. I grew up and came of age in South Florida in the wake of the riot following the acquittal of the killers of Arthur McDuffie in 1980 and again with the murders of Clement Anthony Lloyd, 23, and Allan Blanchard, 24 in 1989

My sister is married to an African American, and my daughter is very close to becoming engaged to one. I am the aunt of and could soon become a grandmother to racially mixed young people.

Talking politics at my job is pretty much verboten. Is there an acceptable way to show my lily white solidarity with my African American supervisor and mother of a fabulous college freshman son living in LA where this shit happens still on a regular basis?

How do I let my African American friends, family and co-workers know how disgusted I am by it all being still an issue in 2014 without being offensive?








el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
35. Probably just be honest and open about how you feel without excuses
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 12:23 PM
Aug 2014

I strikes me that that is the common thread through those statements (or one of the threads) is that they are about excusing themselves from what is going on. Acknowledge that even if you are trying to be part of the solution, as things stand right now you have certain benefits that black people do not have. And listen with empathy to what they are saying. Too often in all sorts of conversations, but particularly in this one, we are in too much of a hurry to excuse or explain ourselves rather than simply listening to what the other person is saying and trying to understand it.

Or that's my thoughts.

Bryant

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