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Today we learned that theft is a capital crime in Missouri (Original Post) Hugabear Aug 2014 OP
Just being a young black man might be enough MineralMan Aug 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author big_dog Aug 2014 #11
SWB--shoplifting while black. nt valerief Aug 2014 #2
Which is often JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #3
Yep, shopping while black, too. Maybe it should all be reduced BWB, valerief Aug 2014 #7
I don't think so cleduc Aug 2014 #4
No you haven't mythology Aug 2014 #5
Though I suspect the cop murdered Mike Brown, how about let's wait and find ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #6
You know - JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #8
True. Update: Since I posted the comment above, Chief Jackson confirmed that Wilson ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2014 #9
Now I really can't trust that guy JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #10
Cop didn't know about the theft. It's jaywalking that's a capital crime. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #12
No, plausibly arguable suspicion of theft. You know whether they even knew or not. TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #13

Response to MineralMan (Reply #1)

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
3. Which is often
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:56 PM
Aug 2014

Shopping while black. Even if you aren't shop lifting - trust me - we get treated like we are!

Which cracks me up because I'm the person shopping at Macy's on a Saturday afternoon - not working there. It just makes me laugh.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
7. Yep, shopping while black, too. Maybe it should all be reduced BWB,
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 03:15 PM
Aug 2014

breathing while black. The haters just can't tolerate all that breathing.

 

cleduc

(653 posts)
4. I don't think so
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:56 PM
Aug 2014

That's a rush to judgement without all the facts.

Still looks and smells like excessive force was used. And if it was, that police officer is likely to be held to account. But we haven't seen and heard all the evidence yet.

Yesterday, I had the impression Mike Brown was an honest, meek and mild student who got profiled before being shot. Today, we learned Mike wasn't as nice or honest or meek a guy as some were making him out to be.

Tomorrow, we might learn more.

To rush to judgement against the police officer right now, although there are good grounds to suspect excessive force, is flirting with a somewhat similar rush to judgement, although not a heinous, as shooting a shop lifter in the back.

Due process.

And that due process will answer if "theft is a capital crime in Missouri". The answer may well turn out to be "a cop killing a guy for theft is a capital crime in Missouri"

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
5. No you haven't
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 02:57 PM
Aug 2014

You still don't know what events occured between Brown and the cop. If the reports that the cop suffered facial injuries and Brown grabbed for the cop's gun are true, we learned that's a stupid thing to do.

Maybe the same guy who was pushing around a clerk did nothing to the cop, but we have absolutely learned that Michael Brown wasn't above getting physical with other people.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
6. Though I suspect the cop murdered Mike Brown, how about let's wait and find
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 03:00 PM
Aug 2014

out first what happened when the cop first encountered Mike. I'm of the opinion that the cop, as reported, encountered Mike and Dorian Johnson due to jaywalking, and not because of the alledged strong-arm robbery. Then we need to know the details of the interaction from that contact.

If this was initially a jaywalking incident, then it's not a case of theft as a capital crime. It's a case of what happened that caused the cop to fire shots at Mike Brown, not a theft investigation and execution.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
8. You know -
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 03:22 PM
Aug 2014

You would think that as easy as it was to get a police report released for an alleged crime on Sunday (theft/shoplifting)

They could have released one on the actual killing.

I'm just saying . . .

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
9. True. Update: Since I posted the comment above, Chief Jackson confirmed that Wilson
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 03:24 PM
Aug 2014

did not encounter Mike Brown as a result of the strong-arm robbery investigation. It was because he was jaywalking.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
10. Now I really can't trust that guy
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 03:27 PM
Aug 2014

Seriously - he needs to be much more precise in his communications.

We all need to bombard his email with a request to release the police report on the killing.

What he did today? That pdf was one hell of a cheap shot.

TheKentuckian

(25,023 posts)
13. No, plausibly arguable suspicion of theft. You know whether they even knew or not.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:27 PM
Aug 2014

Starting to despise some people on this.

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