Ferguson Police Department Incident Report filed at 11:51, Footage in store of Mike Brown at 11:55

[HipChick]

How can that be?

[uppityperson]

1. what? Where are the times from, link? thanks

[CatWoman]

2. oh, come now HipChick

every police department has a wayback machine

[arcane1]

3. I'm not giving much credence to the time stamp on that video

All I can think of are things like clocks on VCRs and ovens that are never kept current. Hell, to this day my parents set ALL of their clocks several minutes ahead for some reason.

[HipChick]

5. if i was trying to use it as an alibi

I'd be SOL...

[alcibiades_mystery]

4. The 11:51 time is an approximate time given by the first officer; 11:53 is the surv. system time

Neither of these is particularly definitive.

It doesn't even match the first officer on scene's logs, which have the dispatch time as 11:45, and the arrival on scene time as 11:48. In any case, the video in the store is hardly a definitive timestamp source. That would require that we know the owners of the system keep it synched, which is unlikely. Far more persuasive is the timestamped logs, because those were filled in on the officer's onboard computers in their cruisers. That has the dispatch go out, again, at 11:45, and the officer arriving on the scene at 11:48. Those are probably accurate times.

[ret5hd]

6. keep tryin'.

they shot a kid that had no gun. THEY SHOT A KID THAT HAD NO GUN!

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. ?????

Huh?

[arcane1]

22. I believe you are being subtly accused of being an apologist for the cop

Another day, another controversial topic on DU with an all-or-nothing false-dichotomy fan-club

[alcibiades_mystery]

23. To be fair

It wasn't that subtle.

[arcane1]

24. Fair enough

[Arrowood]

8. You can't imagine any circumstances...

... not necessarily specific to this scenario, under which a person may reasonably be in fear for their life from a person who doesn't have a gun?

[Beaverhausen]

14. Are you saying the shooting was justified?

[Arrowood]

16. I have no idea...

It is difficult to discern fact from rhetoric in such an emotionally charged situation....

That wasn't really the question though.

[Beaverhausen]

18. 2 witnesses say the cop shot Brown when his hands were raised in the air

How could that cop fear for his life in that instance? How is that not outright murder?

[Arrowood]

20. I hope that their versions are taken into account...

... during the investigation.

[ret5hd]

15. I can not imagine being in fear of my life...

from you. Evwn if i gave my address, SS #, age, and detailed description.

[Arrowood]

17. I'm ok with that... I'm a friendly fellow...

Doesn't really address the question though.

What an odd response btw...

[FormerOstrich]

9. Has the person in the video footage

been conclusively identified as Mike Brown?

[Travis_0004]

10. Perhaps not 100%

But it doesnt take sherlock homes to realize its him. Unless he has a twin brother wearing the same clothes that day.

[FormerOstrich]

11. Is it the same clothes?

Did the find the Red Cap and cigars?

They were walking in the middle of the road and interrupting traffic after leaving the store?

[Travis_0004]

19. Same clothes

They also found a hat at the scene of the shooting.

[alcibiades_mystery]

12. The person with them at the time of the shooting said it was them

His parents attorney says they believe it's him.

[FormerOstrich]

13. thank you for the update. I didn't know. n/t

[gvstn]

21. I've seen this mentioned a couple of times today.

Do you happen to remember where you read that his friend said it was them? I haven't heard it on tv or seen it in any article.