"Brown was hit by one bullet, then—as Brown pleaded for his life — Wilson fired “five or six” more"

[kpete]

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The fact that more than 400 black men and boys have been killed by white cops every year in America since 2005 should make all of us viscerally sick. (And that is a number from less than 1/2 of the law enforcement agencies because the others don't report such figures to the FBI.)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/police-killings-data/14060357/

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In Ferguson, three minutes — and two lives forever changed

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A key witness — Brown’s friend Dorian Johnson — has told the FBI that he thought the robbery was a “prank,” said Johnson’s attorney. In an interview with federal agents, Johnson has said Brown was hit by one bullet, then — as Brown pleaded for his life — Wilson fired “five or six” more times.

And when the shooting stopped, Johnson and his legal team have told investigators, the police officer who pulled the trigger did nothing to save the man he’d just shot. “The officer doesn’t attempt to resuscitate,” Johnson’s attorney, former St. Louis mayor Freeman Bosley Jr., said in an interview Saturday. “He does not call for medical help. The officer didn’t call it in that someone had been shot.”

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Both men are now forever entwined with Ferguson, but neither had particularly deep roots here.

Brown was only spending the summer with his grandmother while making plans to attend a vocational school. Wilson was in his fourth year on the police force after working for two years on a force nearby. He lives miles away in a house with a swimming pool in the suburb of Crestwood.

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Way More:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-ferguson-three-minutes--and-two-lives-forever-changed/2014/08/16/f28f5bc0-2588-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html

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Nurse On Site Was Not Allowed to Tend Mike Brown

From a NY Times report:

Mr. Stone ran outside and saw two police officers, both both white men, standing near Mr. Brown, who was lying on his stomach, his arms at his sides, blood seeping from his head. Another neighbor, a woman who identified herself as a nurse, was begging the officers to let her perform CPR.

They refused, Mr. Stone said, adding, “They didn’t even check to see if he was breathing.”

MORE:
http://breakingbrown.com/2014/08/report-nurse-was-not-allowed-to-perform-cpr-on-michael-brown/

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UPDATE, just found this:

Singer Thee Pharoah, 27, witnessed Michael Brown being shot by Officer Darren Wilson outside his Ferguson, Missouri, apartment Saturday

The rapper shared two photos from the crime scene, one of them showing Brown's corpse in the street

Thee Pharoah wrote that Brown was running when he was shot twice in the back and five more times as a 'barrage' after he turned around

(Picture removed -in respect to his mother)


Pharoah shared a picture of a police officer, believed to be unrelated to the shooting, walking with a rifle in his hand near the victim's body hidden from view by a screen


(pictures here are graphic, but revealing):
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2726416/I-just-saw-die-Rapper-live-tweets-Michael-Brown-shooting-shares-graphic-photo-teens-body-street-victims-family-accuse-Ferguson-police-character-assassination.html#ixzz3AekzD9Xg
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AND THEN THERE IS THIS:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5397761



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UPDATED TO INCLUDE:

Another witness has emerged in the shooting of Michael Brown:

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Mitchell told News 4 she saw a door close on a police car. An officer was inside and Brown, Jr. was on the outside. She said the two were arm wrestling through the car window. Mitchell said she then tried to pull out her phone to record. Shots then rang out.

“It just didn’t look right for them to be arm wrestling,” Mitchell said. “The first gun shot came from the window, so I just started getting out of the way.”

According to Mitchell, Brown, Jr, began to run away after the first shot was fired.

“After the shot, the kid just breaks away. The cop follows him, kept shooting, the kid’s body jerked as if he was hit. After his body jerked he turns around, puts his hands up, and the cop continues to walk up on him and continues to shoot until he goes all the way down,” Mitchell said.

MORE PLUS VIDEO:
http://www.kmov.com/special-coverage-001/Another-witness-to-Michael-Brown-Jr-shooting-speaks-to-News-4-271139501.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/14/1321564/-New-witness-steps-forward-in-Michael-Brown-shooting-provides-new-video



************ANOTHER UPDATE HERE:


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/18/1322540/-Autopsy-suggests-Mike-Brown-had-his-arms-in-surrender-position-when-Darren-Wilson-killed-him

[newfie11]

1. This gets worse and worse

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The Gestapo are running the town. What evil people.

[Cha]

53. Yes, it does and the whole world is watching, newfie

[In_The_Wind]

2. Just totally horrible!

[hobbit709]

3. That wasn't a murder, it was an execution.

[VanGoghRocks]

14. That wasn't police, it was a death squad. (Not being

snarky but trying to emulate your style.)

[malaise]

51. +1,000

and they wonder why people are upset

[Boom Sound 416]

4. Hmmm

Hmmmm

[Lars39]

5. I don't know how or how long it will take tol get to this point, but they need to have

a rule for police employment that states if you work in Ferguson, you live there. No exceptions.

[VanGoghRocks]

15. Interesting sociological data point: average family income in Ferguson: $36,000. Average

family income in Crestwood (where death squad member Darren Wilson lived): $62,000.

Class and race are inextricably linked.

[Anansi1171]

55. Indeed! INEXTRICABLY!! -NT

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. My gawd.

[Stellar]

7. My GAWD!

[FarPoint]

8. That sure looks like the shooter, Wilson in picture number 1.

Looking down upon the lifeless body he just murdered.

[hexola]

9. Has it been determined if shooter cop was riding solo?

Or did he have a partner along?

[marble falls]

10. Execution. Plain and simple.

[yourout]

11. +1.....flat out murder.

[seveneyes]

12. The FBI will gather all the facts of the case

Until then, it's all speculation.

[BronxBoy]

13. And before the apologists chime in to question Johnson's veracity....

here's a link to raw, unfiltered video that was shot just as this event unfolded where it seems like dozens of eyewitnesses say the same thing including the yet unproven but totally explosive allegation that Brown was shot while he was on the ground.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5397761

[kpete]

16. thanks BronxBoy

i will add it to my post

sigh.....

peace to us all,
kp

[BronxBoy]

23. No..Thank you

This stuff is important to put out there.

[pintobean]

17. Johnson needs a different lawyer.

Freeman Bosley Jr. carries a lot of baggage.

[russspeakeasy]

18. Evil ...

[HoosierCowboy]

19. Can't help but wonder....

...if there isn't a live video of the shooting that's being suppressed or kept secret. If it was released, the entire incident would go nuclear.
If I had the video, I would blackmail Fox News for 10 million dollars NOT to show it..

[BronxBoy]

25. If there is....

and it's probably 50-50 that there might be, I would be scared shitless if I took it and had it.

[randome]

20. How many bullets are in those guns?

Shot twice then five more times? That equals...somewhere around seven. My knowledge of weapons only comes from television, though. I thought six was the 'magic number' of most hand guns.
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[Hissyspit]

21. 15-round clips in Glock not uncommon

for police officers.

Varies by jurisdiction, but nowadays most all use high-capacity magazines.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_bullets_does_the_police_handgun_hold_typically

How many bullets does the police handgun hold typically?
Answer
15 and up.

Actually, it depends. Many police departments in the U.S. use .40 caliber handguns. Some Glock handguns (the model 22, for instance) hold 15, but the Glock 23 holds 13. Sig .40 caliber handguns hold 12.

That said though, some agencies still use 9mm, although, depending on the model, some of those hold 11 or 12 also.

[randome]

24. Thanks for the info.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Sometimes it seems like the only purpose in life is to keep your car from touching another's.[/center][/font][hr]

[JoeyT]

77. Six is the magic number for most revolvers.

7+1 is pretty much the minimum for semi-auto handguns with a few exceptions for the really godawfully big ones.

[rickyhall]

22. Can't call that anything but murder, cop or no cop.

[vlyons]

26. Don't demonize the cops.

Don't demonize them, like they demonize us, liberals, minorities, the poor etc. When we demonize them, we join their team. They are not demons, they are ignorant people, whose minds are filled with delusional perceptions, false assumptions, prejudices based fear and hatred and arrogance.

We can just simply and objectively tell the truth based on our observations. The cop was trigger happy and out of control. He did not control himself. Rather than getting out of his car, and politely asking the teens to get out of the street FOR THEIR SAFETY and the safety of motorists, he over-reacted. He exceeded his authority, resulting in a needless death. He also could have followed the boys home and talked to his parents, who would have lowered the boom.

That cop needs to be prosecuted for 2nd degree murder, or manslaughter at the very least. A grand jury needs to be enpaneled for an indictment to begin the wheels of justice moving.

[L0oniX]

30. pfffft

[MohRokTah]

66. You and I disagree a lot.

We are 100% in agreement here.

[AnAzulTexas]

35. just, no

we are seeing who our true enemies are. and it ain't the "illegal with calves the size of cantaloupes". I've never held much respect for police, and it seems we all are reaching a boiling point.

[gordianot]

38. If he shot first and wounded Brown paused then fired more rounds into him that is premeditated.

In Missouri Capital Murder and all that entails. What makes this so rare there were so many wittinesses. It will also be interesting to see the Police Departments Standard Operating Procedures for Deadly force. Denial of first responders such as the Nurse also is a problem.

This entire situation will hound City Government in Court for years to come. I hope it ruins the Police Chief of Ferguson into what should be impending retirement. He has his years in and probably knows it allowing him to be total tool in stirring up chaos. It is a miracle others have not been killed.

[vlyons]

40. My Dad was a cop in Dallas

He went the the FBI Academy for police. When I was a little girl, he explained to me the differences between the different types of homicide.

1st degree is a planned murder. You plan out how to murder someone, sometimes in conspiracy with another person who becomes equally guilty. You get up in the morning with the intention to enact that plan. You lay in wait for them with stealth, like when you hide in the bushes and pounce, or poison them when unsuspecting. Or you attack when they are vulnerable, like when sick or injured.

2nd degree is not preplanned. You lose your temper and lash out in rage, resulting in a death. If you shoot someone during an armed robbery, that's usually 1st degree murder, but the prosecutor has the discretion to charge 2nd degree.

Manslaughter is when your actions result in a death, like a car accident. But if you're DOI, it could be 2nd degree if you've had previous DOI convictions.

Negligent homicide is when your inattention to your responsibilities results in a death. Like when a mine owner fails to correct a safety issue that he knew about. Or when a coach sends a player who suffered a concussion back on the field.

Each state defines the different types of homicides differently.

[gordianot]

47. My understanding is the same, also Police have an added burden with Standard Operating Procedures.

In Missouri they are commissioned and subject regulation by the local jurisdiction. They are not civilians.

[kath]

60. You are wrong about 1st degree.It does not require much advance planning at all, certainly not

"getting up in the morning with the intention to enact that plan"

Colorado's statute states (and I assume other states have similar laws):

A person commits the crime of murder in the first degree if:
(a) After deliberation and with the intent to cause the death of a person other than himself, he causes the death of that person or of another person; or

http://www.lawinfoboulder.com/colorado_statutes/murder_first_degree.html

It only has to be a deliberate action, as opposed to a "heat of the moment" thing. As stated in this decision:

The premeditation or deliberation requirement of first degree murder does not require a "plan" or protracted consideration of the killing by the defendant. Instead, it requires only the time necessary for one thought to follow another. Hinton v. People, 169 Colo. 545, 458 P.2d 611 (1969); Hammil v. People, 145 Colo. 577, 361 P.2d 117 (1961).

http://law.justia.com/cases/colorado/court-of-appeals/1991/90ca0162-0.html

My sister-in-law was murdered by her abusive ex-husband, and he was convicted on a first-degree charge. The circumstances were as such:
They had an argument during which he left the house to get his gun out of his truck. She locked the door. After getting the gun, he broke down the door in order to get back in the house. At some point, the phone was ripped out of the wall (no cell phones back then), presumably so that she could not call for help. He shot her in the head in front of their youngest child, after first pointing the gun at various parts of her body then removing the safety.
The facts above were enough to meet the "deliberation" and "intent" portions of the statute. Yay!, since first degree murder in CO has a mandatory life sentence, with no possibility of parole for 40 years (at least at that time). If we had only gotten a 2nd-degree conviction, the fucker would have been out in a couple of years at most, and probably would have tried to get custody of the young children.

[TheKentuckian]

44. When telling the truth about someone becomes "demonizing" maybe someone needs to act differently?

[Ecumenist]

78. REALLY??!! What would you prefer people to do, hang a halo around his head? HE FUCKING

MURDERED, LYNCHED, EXECUTED A BIG GOOFY KID WHO WAS UNARMED... He's WORSE than a daemon because you EXPECT daemons to damage and destroy BUT not a COP....DEAL WITH IT!! My brother was a military cop and is training as a civilian LEO. If he MURDERED a baby, even one over 6feet tall and 200+ lbs, MAY HIS ASS REST IN SOMEBODY'S PENITENTIARY...FOREVER!!

[KitSileya]

27. Could you remove the second picture, please?

The mother of Michael Brown has asked that people not post pictures of him laying dead on the street, and it behooves us to follow her wishes.

[kpete]

41. done

respectfully,
kp

[KitSileya]

42. Thank you!

I appreciate it a lot

[truth2power]

28. There should be enough evidence, so far, to put this officer IN PRISON

for the rest of his miserable, sorry, life.

WHY has he not been arrested???

[Chimeradog]

76. Yes

so very true



this was a case of outright murder.

[samsingh]

29. when will the murders of black men stop?

[AnAzulTexas]

36. it's not just black people

one of my best friends took 3 to the chest when he had a nervous breakdown. he was murdered in his own bedroom "by a 1 year veteran officer" in June of 2012.

[Stonepounder]

31. And not a Goddamn thing will change!

Oh, they might offer up a sacrificial lamb or goat to appease the masses. But the reality of racist America and the militarization of our Police won't change. The 1% need the bread and circuses to keep the masses distracted. FOX fans the flames of racism and hatred so that the masses vote against their own self-interest so that "they" don't get any of "my" tax dollars. We already have two branches of government bought and paid for by the likes of the Koch brothers.

This won't end well for America. We will either end up a Fascist police state like the Soviet era USSR or we will tear ourselves apart with a violent revolution where it is 'us" vs "them" - where it starts out with the 99% against the 1% but, like the French Revolution devolves into "them" being anybody not like me - Christians against Muslims, black against white, white against anyone who is not white, and so on.

The 1% seems hell-bent on getting rid of any and all social safety-net. And when parents can't feed their kids, that's when things get really ugly.

The above may be a little incoherent. It is just that I am just so mad and so disparing of my country.

[Enthusiast]

45. They® have one hell of a safety-net for corporations.

This bullshit must cease.

[Voice for Peace]

32. Does this seem like unbiased reporting?

I confess this is as far as I have gotten reading the wpost article, but but and wtf

When they met at 12:01 p.m. on Aug. 9, the two were coming from different places, different mind-sets —Brown filling free hours with a friend, Wilson coming off an emergency call about a 2-month-old baby struggling to breathe.

Brown, barely 18, stood 6-foot-4 and 292 pounds and wore a St. Louis Cardinals baseball cap. Wilson, a lanky 28-year-old with short-cropped blond hair who had six months earlier won a commendation for “extraordinary effort in the line of duty,” steered a police cruiser behind him.

Now. I will read onward.

[kath]

61. Sheesh, that's horrible. Where the hell did that dreck appear?

[Voice for Peace]

71. that was from the Wash Post link in the OP

[kath]

72. Wow. The WaPo was all pissed at the cops the other day, after what cops did to their reporter.

guess that didn't last long...

[tooeyeten]

33. Disgusting and unnerving n/t

[etherealtruth]

34. Disgust/ revulsion/ rage

the emotions i feel associated with this

[Spitfire of ATJ]

39. No red cap.

[seveneyes]

43. Would a cap come off when wrestling with another person?

I think it's possible if things got physical enough.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

50. There was no "wrestling". The cop called him over to the car, there were words exchanged,...

...then the cop grabbed him through the window and then shot him, then when he tried to get away he got out of the car and shot him in the back, then when he turned with his hands up the cop finished him off.

Sounds to me like he was pissed off over something. To just reach out through the window and grab him like that was a sign that he lost his cool.

WHERE IS THE DASHCAM VIDEO???

It would have recorded the audio.

[gldstwmn]

52. There are no dashcams in Fergson PD's cars. n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

64. No wonder they think they can get away with murder.

[seveneyes]

58. Still waiting for the facts

Then it can be ascertained what really went down.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

65. Yeah,.....can't take the local's word for it.

[MohRokTah]

67. So far, four separate eyewitnesses tell the same story.

It's premeditated deliberate murder if you believe four separate eyewitnesses.

Oh, and the Ferguson PD interviewed none of them.

We'll have to see how many eyewitnesses the FBI can come up with.

BTW, the musician live tweeted the murder and had the same story as Johnson and Mitchell, live, AS EVENTS UNFOLDED.

[indivisibleman]

69. have any of these eyewitnesses been interviewed at this point?

If not that says a ton.

[MohRokTah]

70. Not by the Ferguson PD.

The FBI is on it, though.

And from what I've heard, there are more.

[justiceischeap]

48. I've seen images of the red cap

Laying on the ground near a crime scene marker. Don't know where it was in relation to everything else.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

49. Saw that. Wasn't there in the panning video of him dead in the street....

It was a single still image from a distance released by the cops AFTER the robbery video.

Someone needs to do a pixel check for photoshopping.

[seveneyes]

59. "do a pixel check for photoshopping."

Yeah, just in case the FBI doesn't think of doing such a thing.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

62. Best news of all was them taking over.

[seveneyes]

63. Agree 100%

They WILL get the facts and we will know what the hell happened.

[JimDandy]

68. Now, now...that's one way to ascertain one fact...

You know--all those facts you are pining for.

[BronxBoy]

57. Watch the second video in the first reponse in the last link in the OP....

there is a red cap further up the street that apparently was dropped when Mr. Brown ran.

[Enthusiast]

46. Kicked and recommended for the truth.

[ReRe]

73. kpete's published accounts

I'm marking this so I can com back and read all through it. I did click on the CNN link to see the video, which I had not seen yet. Thank you, kpete! I have to go take a break for a minute and calm myself down.

[Cha]

74. KIck

[blkmusclmachine]

75. Has even 1 Cop lost his job over this sh-t, or is the inJustice System that f'ing broken in this

Country?!?!

[Uncle Joe]

79. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.

[tio6873]

80. wt?

Dr badens autopsy all shots came from the front how s this possible if he was running away?

[maced666]

81. What in the world do you mean?

He was on his knees several eye witnesses say. also, one shot to top of head.
What is so confusing to you about that.