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Avalux

(35,015 posts)
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 01:20 PM Aug 2014

Question: If local police decline to arrest and prosecute Wilson, can the feds do it?

I know that they've sent FBI agents to Ferguson, and I know the DOJ has ordered their own autopsy. But is there a law in place that will allow the feds to intervene if the prosecutor decides to not press charges?

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Question: If local police decline to arrest and prosecute Wilson, can the feds do it? (Original Post) Avalux Aug 2014 OP
Yes avebury Aug 2014 #1
Thank you. n/t Avalux Aug 2014 #6
Not for murder or manslaughter as such, but they can prosecute as a civil rights violation. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2014 #2
Gracias! n/t Avalux Aug 2014 #7
They can on civil rights law violations. MineralMan Aug 2014 #3
This could take awhile then.... Avalux Aug 2014 #8
Yep, separate jurisdictions. Manifestor_of_Light Aug 2014 #4
Since you're legitimate (hee hee) Avalux Aug 2014 #9
Depends if the feds lancer78 Aug 2014 #13
Good post on DU addresses this question badtoworse Aug 2014 #5
Thank you for the link. n/t Avalux Aug 2014 #10
Yep, excellent link. malthaussen Aug 2014 #14
Not for murder, since its not a Federal crime. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #11
Only on civil rights charges--not on murder/manslaughter. hlthe2b Aug 2014 #12
Neither is murder/manslaughter, for that matter. malthaussen Aug 2014 #15

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
3. They can on civil rights law violations.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 01:28 PM
Aug 2014

They can't prosecute for murder or manslaughter, though. Those are state crimes. Whether they will prosecute or not, though, will depend on what the state chooses to do. If the state prosecutes, the feds probably won't.

It's been done on more than one occasion.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
8. This could take awhile then....
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 01:31 PM
Aug 2014

I would expect the state would do it first. Would the state crime be murder/manslaughter or a civil rights offense as with the feds?

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
4. Yep, separate jurisdictions.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 01:29 PM
Aug 2014

Federal charges would be a civil rights violation.


P.S. My law degree was not a prize in a box of Cracker Jack.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
9. Since you're legitimate (hee hee)
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 01:32 PM
Aug 2014

The civil rights violation....what would be the punishment? Would it be equivocal to murder/manslaughter?

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
13. Depends if the feds
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 01:39 PM
Aug 2014

can show Wilson INTENDED to deprive Brown of his civil rights. If the feds can show that, and since a death was caused, the prison term CAN be up to death penalty I think.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
5. Good post on DU addresses this question
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 01:29 PM
Aug 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025405198

The answer is Yes, but it's rare for the DOJ to take such a case and the standard for a conviction is very high.
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
11. Not for murder, since its not a Federal crime.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 01:33 PM
Aug 2014

A Federal civil rights prosecution is possible, but such cases are very difficult to win, especially without a murder conviction from the State.
Perhaps a more effective tactic would be a broad investigation of the police and DAs office for violations of civil rights. Such an investigation (and accompanying spotlight) might force PD and DAs office to clean up their acts.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
12. Only on civil rights charges--not on murder/manslaughter.
Mon Aug 18, 2014, 01:34 PM
Aug 2014

and civil rights charges are not easy to gain a conviction on...

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