Has the police report been released yet?

[boston bean]

I'm not going to go by what some anonymous caller into a radio show said she heard second hand from a friend of his.

For people who want to "wait" for the facts, let's wait for officers report. Taking anything coming from that source is lazy, harmful, and biased, and self serving. Why the hell is the news reporting it like it is some fact?

WTH hasn't his report been released? Was one made? If one was done, when was it written? If one hasn't been written, why not? Those are questions news organizations ought to be asking.

[uponit7771]

1. Yes, the report that disparages Mike Brown has been released by the FPD...

... because they are bastards

[Bjorn Against]

2. The report on the shooting on the other hand has not been released

They only released the report on the so-called "strong arm robbery", they still have not released the report on the shooting despite their legal obligation to do so.

[randys1]

4. Of course. Hey look, I dont like what I see when i see that video of the cigar deal

I dont like it at all because it is wrong, and must be said is wrong, and the looting is wrong and the people doing it need to be arrested.

But for god's sake, what does ANY of that have to do with shooting a kid in the EYE and his brains splattered all over the street!!

[randys1]

3. What does it say, do we have that here somewhere?

[TorchTheWitch]

5. why should it be released?

Why should any information about the case be released? Investigations are always done out of the public eye and for good reason. "the police aren't verifying {fill in the blank} because of the ongoing investigation". How many times have we heard or read that? Why should this case be any different? Once the investigation is done we'll find out the facts. Likely because of its popularity there will be a press conference.

The news has reported all kinds of stuff as fact. That's what the media unfortunately tends to do... pick a side and write according to that side. And sometimes they switch sides. Our media sucks. They aren't supposed to be choosing ANY side and just reporting the facts with no opinion and no twisting of words. But the media hasn't done that for decades. How I miss Walter Cronkite! Now we have rude opinionated screamers that make you feel like you're watching Jerry Springer.

The investigation is supposed to take only a few weeks. What the hell is wrong with waiting until that's done and whatever facts can be known are known??? That's what happens in every other case, and most of the time the media doesn't even care. That's something else the media does... chooses which cases to bring awareness to. How many times have people complained that when it comes to a missing child the media only cares if the child is female, white and cute. Otherwise we don't even hear about it.

[pintobean]

6. Another excellent post, Torch. /nt

[boston bean]

8. Police officers have to make incident reports that are public record.

You don't know what you are talking about here.

[TorchTheWitch]

9. At what point do they become public record?

Does the investigation have to be completed first or not? Police reports evolve as more information is discovered. If you want the initial report that may not even include what the officer said occurred since the initial report is written right after the event, and with the officer's injuries we don't even know when he was able to give his account, which incidentally, would be given to another entity other than his police department... whoever it is that does internal investigations.

If the initial report or whatever report you're looking for is public record than tell the media to request it. Police reports don't automatically get revealed in the media. Nothing that's public record does unless it's requested. Since Wilson's account is PART of the investigation, and why he would need to be questioned about the events at all his version of events may not be public record yet due to being PART of the investigation. This isn't just a matter of an officer writing an incident report that they were called, say, to investigate a domestic complaint, what they discovered showed that there was probable cause to arrest someone, etc. So what report is it that you want?

[boston bean]

10. the initial incident reports of all officers who were involved.

Those are public record and I think I was quite clear in stating the media ought to be demanding them and not relying on some third person hearsay by an anonymous caller into a radio show.

[TorchTheWitch]

13. it's hardly surprising for our media

I gave up even watching the news years ago when it started looking and sounding like a Jerry Springer show. Hell, I'm even starting to think I'd be happy if they just bothered to proof read anymore. The media - like usual - has made a mess of this incident from the first. Anymore they thrive on creating controversy rather than reporting news and will invent controversy where there isn't any. They interview anyone that wants to put their face in a microphone calling them a witness without verifying whether or not the person was or just looking for their 15 minutes and were actually out of town or at the bar four blocks away at the time.

They've not even bothered to interview anyone that was adversely effected by the rioting making it appear that no one in the community cares about having Molotov cocktails tossed about or people trashing the community's businesses and smashing peoples' cars up, etc. and keep calling the people doing this "protesters" as if actual protesters behave in this way. So far I've seen ONE single brief interview by the media of someone in the community that said something about the rioting and how people in the community are trying to protect property, and I don't even think it was an American news outlet.

By the media not interviewing these people it gives the public the impression that the entire town is nothing but a den of destructive nuts. And because the community is 70% black, what does THAT impression give people? The media INVENTED this incident being a black/white issue and they sure as hell aren't on the correct side of it by reporting in such a way as to give every appearance that this mostly black community is all a bunch of crazy nuts violently destroying their own community, and *wink wink* it's a mostly black community, oh and did we mention that this is a mostly black community? *cough cough*. It's sick making.

Incident report? Pfffftttt.... the media has an entirely different agenda. Better to not pay any attention to American media though some of the foreign press isn't much better.

[Nevada Blue]

7. my issue with this is simple

The police dept. has mishandled this since day 1.

How will anyone (other than Darren Wilson) know what really happened? How will anything that comes out in any police report be able to be verified? Has evidence already been destroyed or falsified?

There are just too many ways this can be manipulated since the only living witness to the actual exchange is the officer who pulled the trigger. The eye witnesses are only speaking from their particular vantage point and now reports are flying out second-, third-, and tenth-hand.

I'm afraid this comes down to relying on an inept (if not corrupt) police department for the rest of the facts. And my faith in them is nil.

[TorchTheWitch]

11. There's a lot of forensic evidence that's part of the case

And the case was almost immediately turned over to the FBI and the county PD... the local PD isn't even doing the investigation. THe people that gather, test and report evidence are crime scene investigators that aren't even part of the local PD. Police investigations simply don't occur in a vacuum and certainly not when they're so public and with other police entities involved.

What makes you think the local PD is either inept or corrupt? Where is there any evidence of that? How does the case being almost immediately turned over to other agencies for investigation in order to keep anyone from being afraid of any corruption (which can't happen right under the publics nose in such a public case), spell ineptness or corruption? If anything, it shows how NOT inept or corrupt they are.

The Chief isn't exactly the greatest public speaker not explaining everything thoroughly for a lay person's ears, but this is a small department that hasn't ever had such a huge event and public scrutiny. His calling in a different entity to deal with the rioting was what he was supposed to do in such an event - an event that hadn't ever happened before. He isn't part of that entity so could not have known how badly they'd handle it, and would have expected them to handle it correctly since that's their job. He also quickly became aware how badly they were doing their job, were only making things worse and knew to pull them out and use another entity. So other than him not being the best public speaker - which undoubtedly he's also never had to do before - what's this claim of ineptness, and what in the world shows any corruption?

Or is this fear based more on the investigation not coming out the way so many here hope and opening the door for if that happens finger pointing and calls of bungling and corruption? And for that matter, I can't imagine why anyone here would HOPE that it is discovered that the officer did something criminal because that's pretty sicko. No one should WANT to find out that any officer is a violent nutcase that is ok with killing people willy nilly. Just like with that CHP officer that violently and senselessly beat a woman severely nearly to death right on the side of the highway nobody should be GLAD of that just to be able to point to him as some kind of poster boy of what they think all officers are.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

12. Rachel Maddow was raking the Ferguson Police Dept. over the coals tonight

pointing out the unfair and calculated SELECTIVE LEAKING by this vermin in blue; the leak about the marijuana in brown's system and the leak of the unrelated convenience store tape and the still photos, Without seeing all the related evidence to know exactly how and whether this affects the case only serves to make Michael Brown appear to be a bad person. If I were King the chief of police would now be before me in my court, trying to persuade me not to sentence him to work in a coal mine.