Obama Speaks Carefully So That He Doesn’t Prejudice The Federal Ferguson Investigation

[sheshe2]

By: Jason Easley
Monday, August, 18th, 2014, 5:31 pm



President Obama showed his commitment to seeing that justice is done in Ferguson by sending Attorney General Eric Holder to the scene and doing everything in his power not to prejudice the investigation during his White House remarks.

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The president said, “Obviously, we’ve seen events in which there is a big gulf between community perceptions and law enforcement perceptions around the country. This is not something new. It’s always tragic when it involves the death of someone so young. I have to be very careful about not prejudging these events before investigations are completed, because although these are issues of local jurisdiction, the DoJ works for me, and when they are conducting an investigation I’ve got make sure that I don’t look like I am putting my thumb on the scales one way or the other. So it’s hard for me to address a specific case beyond making sure that it’s conducted in a way that is transparent, where there’s accountability, where people can trust the process. Hoping that as a consequence of a fair and just process, you end up with a fair and just outcome.”

Because of the DoJ investigation, the president can’t publicly reveal his true feelings on the death of Michael Brown and the actions of the Ferguson Police. A fair and just process is one of the keys to restoring peace to Ferguson. A feeling of injustice is the driving force behind people taking to the streets. Stability and peace will return to the community when the residents believe that justice is being done.

The local authorities have demonstrated that they have an agenda. They are actively trying to smear Michael Brown in order to justify the actions of their police department. This is a case that has to be handled by the federal government because officials in Ferguson have proven that they can’t be trusted. President Obama will someday be free to speak his mind, but that time is not now.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/08/18/obama-speaks-carefully-prejudice-federal-ferguson-investigation.html

Some here believe that this president is weak on Ferguson. I guess we need the macho response of, hmmm... Bush maybe swooping down on an aircraft carrier. Or maybe standing on top of the rubble of the twin towers with a bull horn. I call bullshit on those claims.

As NYC_SKP said,

Sometimes the quietest one in the room is the smartest one.

And sometimes the quiet one in the room is the real leader.

The man doesn't please everyone; he never could and, to his credit, he doesn't even try.

But that never means he isn't working on it, having others work on it, making things happen in the background or waiting for the best time to act.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025408241#post6

[agbdf]

1. I don't believe President Obama is weak in this matter; he has taken the right approach

[sheshe2]

3. I totally agree! eom

[JaydenD]

2. Thank you so very much for this.

I have to be very careful about not prejudging these events before investigations are completed, because although these are issues of local jurisdiction, the DoJ works for me, and when they are conducting an investigation I’ve got make sure that I don’t look like I am putting my thumb on the scales one way or the other.

But of course, and if Obama did use stronger words that Did prejudice the investigations, the wailing and stomping would still be a din. Can't freaking win, poor guy.

[conservaphobe]

4. His actions have been stronger than his words.

And that's exactly what is needed at the moment.

[sheshe2]

6. That is exactly what we need.

It's what the people of Ferguson need. It is what Michael Brown needs, may he rest in peace and see justice done in his name.

[Cha]

14. Well said, conservaphobe.. exactly what is needed.

[randys1]

5. Per O'Donnell interview of Baden's partner and the private autopsy

so much information they need is held by the police, the police are racist teaparty assholes, from this point forward anything they provide to the investigation cant be trusted, whether it is the victims clothes, scene of the shooting etc

they are going to lie, plant evidence, maybe plant residue on clothes, etc

this is going to be real bad...

the racist teaparty may get what they want, a war against Black people

[msongs]

7. can clothes be doctored with fake gunshot residue to make shots look closeup? hmmm nt

[randys1]

97. who knows. what we know is nothing the fergy popo has said so far is true

they have acted like gestapo

this isnt going to end well

[BrotherIvan]

8. "We’re a nation of laws.

We don’t individually make our own decisions about how the laws operate. He broke the law."

[sheshe2]

9. Who broke the law?

[msanthrope]

12. And, indeed, Chelsea Manning agreed she broke the law, which is why she both

pled to some charges, and apologized at sentencing.

[Cha]

79. Precisely msanthrope

[Cha]

10. Good find, she.. thank you! Now I will read the rest of what Jason Easley has to say..

Michael Brown

[sheshe2]

11. Thank you Cha...

I will not have this President smeared by his response to Ferguson. He stands with them heart and soul. As does AG Holder.

[Cha]

13. Consider the source of those who are smearing and jumping on the rah rah band wagon..

First they're smearing Michael Brown in Ferguson and now there are those trying to smear President Obama and AG Holder.. fuck them.

Bad news for the smearers at cnn headquarters.. These Protestors are Not standing for the smearing of Michael Brown


Sherrea @Sherrea_D
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After 7 yrs of Barack Obama, commentariat somehow still surprised that his inclination is to settle things down, not stir them up. #ferguson
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http://theobamadiary.com/2014/08/18/president-obama-delivers-a-statement-on-iraq-and-ferguson/

Michael Brown

[sheshe2]

16. OMG OMG...This This This!

Alec MacGillis @AlecMacGillis
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From your link! Thank you Cha! Great pics!

Mr President

For Michael, bless your sweet soul.

[Cha]

17. Yeah, they want President Obama to be who they are not who he is.. I'll will take President Obama's

wisdom. Thank you.

[freshwest]

15. He MUST be very careful. Last time he made a general announcement that rape would not be tolerated

in the armed forces, the court ruled for the defense that Obama had prejudiced the trial and the man got off, even though Obama had not said anything about that particular case. So the guy got away with it.

No one wants to see justice denied in this or any other matter. Obama is wise to speak softly and has the long range goal in mind, not making some political points.

[Cha]

18. Didn't know that, fresh.. but, it all makes sense anyway. the President knows

what he's doing. And, I'm so thankful we have him doing it.

[sheshe2]

22. Yes, exactly freshest.

This case can not be prejudiced. He will continue to speak softly and carry a big stick.

[former9thward]

48. Please link to that case.

I call BS.

[jeff47]

93. Post 66. (nt)

[former9thward]

94. Thanks for the link but a completely different case.

1) that was a military case where Obama is in the direct command as CIC. That has nothing to do with civilian cases. 2) the judge in the military case was an outlier as pointed out in the article. Her ruling will be overturned on appeal.

[NYC_SKP]

102. Thank you for reminding the community.

Memories are short around here.

[KittyWampus]

19. It's always the same DU'ers. And they WILL avoid this thread, H2OMan's thread and any other threads

explaining Obama's circumspect statements.

[Cha]

20. Yeah, they need their own so very special ".. but, Bully Pulpit!!11" thread.

[freshwest]

29. Cha, they still long for 'Bring It On' talk and miss 'The Beloved Pair'

I don't miss his crude shows of bravado. My idea of leadership doesn't include wasting time to answer a pack of hounds paid to lie. Who've been answered, then caught editing and lying more.

The calls for 'balls' and 'a pair' require an authoritarian figure. Shows of bravado are for those who don't realize they are the source of democratic power and are crying for rescue.

I didn't vote for that, I'm tired of the game by media who want a 'strong man' to make a show. Screw that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251305673#post21

[Cha]

35. Oh yeah, the fucking "grow a pair" crowd.. As they whine from their keyboards..

blast from the past, fresh. Michael Brown

[sheshe2]

47. Gawd damn, freshwest!

You are giving me nightmares here! I can't look at that pic without...



He was an ugly dumb ass. He tried to destroy this country, actually he did one hell of a job. He never had a "pair" they deflated long ago, he just didn't know it.

[freshwest]

50. Here's something to cheer you up, then!

REO SPEEDWAGON ~ Tough Guys

She doesn't like the tough guys.
They think that they can do anything they please.
But they're gonna get a surprise,
When she brings them to their knees.
'Cus she doesn't like the rough guys.
They act like they can have any girl they choose.
They've got tricks, but my baby got wise,
So in case you haven't heard the news,

She doesn't like the tough guys.
She doesn't like the rough guys.
So find some one you own size,
'Cus she's not afraid of you.

She doesn't like the tough guys.
She thinks that they've got brains all where they sit.
They think they're full of fire,
She thinks they're full of shit.

She doesn't like the tough guys.
She says she's heard enough lies.
She's gonna call your bluff, guys.
And you better believe it's true.

She don't like you.

[sheshe2]

57. You!

You just made me laugh my ass off. Thanks, I needed that.

She doesn't like the tough guys.
She thinks that they've got brains all where they sit.
They think they're full of fire,
She thinks they're full of shit.

She doesn't like the tough guys.
She says she's heard enough lies.
She's gonna call your bluff, guys.
And you better believe it's true.

She don't like you.

Hey! She is me~

fresh~

[freshwest]

70. Me, too! My work's done for the night!

[sheshe2]

64. They have been strangely silent this week...

why is that?

[Number23]

67. You noticed that too huh? But they'll be back the next time someone says anything bad

about Libertarians. Funny, that.

[sheshe2]

72. Yup~

Funny, that. Or not~

Oh, they be coming back again...slowly. First time tonight I see the awakening. Hard to go days without bashing our President.

Did you know that our President hates black people? Our "parental" Black President wants black people in Ferguson to shut up. Don't holler don't shout...basically shut the hell up! Ooookay~ Really? That's what they got from his speech. Goddess help us all and deliver us from the tone deaf peoples~

It is so good to see you Number23!

[JustAnotherGen]

84. I find that funny - let me tell you why

The narrative has been for a few years that he " hates white people". There has been no condemnation from the IndieTeaPublican leadership - so in that case . . . Silence is NOT golden.

In this case, it is. I tried explaining to someone at DU this weekend that this President and AG have to proceed with caution. Because the IndieTeaPublucan leadership has let the worst of the meme stand - they must proceed with caution.

I will be sad the day President Obama leaves office.
I will be thrilled six months later when his memoir comes out.

And his Presidential Library? I will donate money for a specific display - the one that shows the images of the hatefulness he has endured. I want the witch doctor picture in that display. It's up there with the little kids at the lynching picture 90 some odd years ago.

It's a slice of imagery that shows a segment of Americans as they were.

[sheshe2]

99. Some will never get that, no matter how many times you explain it.

His calm and steady leadership have seen us through so many rough times. I thank the goddess for that.

Yes, the hate makes me want to bang my head against the wall. I really feel the need to take a break from here.

[Number23]

104. JAG, let me know how much you donate to the Obama library and I'll match it

We can start a DU Donation Collection. I'm sure the haters here will love that.

[Number23]

103. You know that the Democratic party is united on an issue when DU is flooded with new trolls

and the old ones are quiet as mice.

[sheshe2]

105. Thanks for that piece of info, Number23.

I haven't been here long enough to see that.

As for your post to JAG on the library, I can't match a donation however would love to donate what I can to a DU fund. Yes a few heads will spin here. That library will be a magnificent moment in history and a teaching tool for generations to come.

[msanthrope]

112. The 101st Chairborne have been rather quiet, haven't they? nt

[Cha]

21. PBO getting things done while others whine.. "Obama: Time to review local police militarization"

WASHINGTON (AP) — Calling for a sharp separation between the nation's armed forces and local police, President Barack Obama on Monday urged a re-examination of programs that have equipped civilian law enforcement departments with military gear from the Pentagon.

The transfers have come under public scrutiny after the forceful police response to racially charged unrest in Ferguson, Missouri.

Amid video images of well-armed police confronting protesters with combat weapons and other surplus military equipment, Obama said it would be useful to review how local law enforcement agencies have used federal grants that permit them to obtain heavier armaments.

"There is a big difference between our military and our local law enforcement, and we don't want those lines blurred," Obama told reporters at the White House. "That would be contrary to our traditions."

Omaha Steve http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014874195

[sheshe2]

27. Thank you Cha.

Calling for a sharp separation between the nation's armed forces and local police, President Barack Obama on Monday urged a re-examination of programs that have equipped civilian law enforcement departments with military gear from the Pentagon.

http://parade.condenast.com/327329/iraphael/powerful-photos-from-protests-in-ferguson-missouri/#fullscreen_gallery

What country are these pictures from? Ours, shamefully ours.

Hands Up! Don't Shoot. I Want To Live!

[Cha]

30. Thank you for those compelling images, she.. breaking our hearts but more determined

than ever to fight the Injustice! There a reason that the police in Ferguson, MO is showing the world what a fascist police state looks like in the USA when President Obama and AG Holder are on the job. It's just the saddest thing in the Universe that it was because of the result of the murder of Michael Brown.

[sheshe2]

42. The look on their faces, yes the determination to end this.

Yet you also see awareness that they too may die. They are there saying bring it on. I will die for my rights as a living breathing human being.



Here, her face especially. I am alive! See me.



Damn it all. See us, see us.

[Cha]

23. The President said it himself, she.. and still prompts those who just love to whine about him to

basically say this isn't true.

"It’s always tragic when it involves the death of someone so young. I have to be very careful about not prejudging these events before investigations are completed, because although these are issues of local jurisdiction, the DoJ works for me, and when they are conducting an investigation I’ve got make sure that I don’t look like I am putting my thumb on the scales one way or the other."

[Uncle Joe]

24. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, sheshe.

[Cha]

25. Posting a quote regarding the President from H20 Man here, she..

H2O Man (50,274 posts)

17. It's an area

where this President is not only taking that "high road," but he is demonstrating proper procedure. In my humble opinion, far too few people understand the connection between process and policy. And I'm not simply talking about the right to a fair trial ....but rather, the relationship between the three branches of the federal government.

H20 Man http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5407799

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

28. I've always said, we need a basic lesson in civics. The greatest tragedy for me...

as a political scientist was when they stop requiring Civics for young folk.

[Cha]

31. It would be so helpful if every American were aware of basic civics, LS.. Then those who

do know wouldn't have to spend so much time explaining it to them.

[freshwest]

51. I was told Nixon did that. It was as I was leaving school. It was intended to stop the next

generation having the tools to change things.

[sheshe2]

37. Ha!

Yes, I responded to that one, Cha. H2O Man was spot on!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

26. The president looks like walking death. He looks worn out. Tired. All this hate coming from the LEFT

and the RIGHT has physically worn him out. So sad.

[calimary]

32. Oh, man, I noticed that too, Liberal_Stalwart71. Watching him speaking today, I was struck by

how strikingly gray his hair has turned. He definitely does NOT look like he interrupted a vacation to go back to the office. He looks like he interrupted a long hard day of bending over, wrangling crowds of kids, and pulling weeds in Michelle's White House garden. He looks exhausted. He looks like he REALLY needs an actual day off with a hot bath, some soft music, and a massage. On a heated massage table. I find it such a sad thing - the ridiculous amount of weight he carries every day.

I remember reading about Harry Truman after he got the shocking news that FDR had just died - making him President.

“Harry Truman has come to be regarded as one of America’s outstanding national leaders of the twentieth century. In the spring of 1945, however, this decent, simple, impulsive man was all but overwhelmed by the burden of office thrust upon him by Roosevelt’s death on 12 April. ‘I felt like the moon, the stars and all the planets had fallen on me,’ he told reporters on the afternoon that he was sworn in. ‘Boys, if you ever pray, pray for me now.’ One journalist said: ‘Good luck, Mr. President.’ Truman said: ‘I wish you didn’t have to call me that.’”

http://oneminutebookreviews.wordpress.com/2009/04/12/remembering-fdrs-death-on-april-12-1945-quote-of-the-day-harry-truman-on-the-death-of-fdr-via-max-hastings/

[Cha]

40. That's because.. as much as I hoped he would be getting some much needed R&R on

his break in Massachusetts, calimary.. it didn't happen. He wasn't physically in the White House but that didn't mean he was working any less.. as we all know.

Obama is the President and he's done an excellent job but he still is just one humanoid who needs to rest just like the rest of us. lol

"He looks like he REALLY needs an actual day off with a hot bath, some soft music, and a massage. On a heated massage table. I find it such a sad thing - the ridiculous amount of weight he carries every day." Some day Soon!

Michael Brown

[Cha]

33. It's the whole world on his shoulders, LS.. Iraq, Ferguson, ME.. if

only he could get a night's sleep.

[sheshe2]

36. I know LS.

There are times I just want to cry. So many deaf dumb and blind people out there.

The hate from the right I can understand. From the left, no that I don't get. Disagreement sure, sadly there is so much hate and total disrespect.

[freshwest]

53. That was what I saw in that photograph as well. He's a better man than we deserve.

[Luminous Animal]

34. Oh really. He deemed Manning guilty without a trial.

[NBachers]

43. That's the one that finally earns you a place on my ignore list.

[Luminous Animal]

44. Yay!

[sheshe2]

45. Me. I have no ignore list...

I find it fun watching people. It amuses me. Your comments amuse me.

FYI, that's not a compliment~

[Luminous Animal]

46. I ate some hard cheese and bread today. I wasn't supposed to because I have a temporary tooth.

Well. I swallowed the tooth along with the tasty bread and cheese. Anyhoo... I have a job interview tomorrow and I was like, holy fucking hell! How am I going to speak and hide this big old gab in my bottom front teeth and not look like I a speaking while trying to hide a bid old gap in my bottom front teeth?

Hint to the answer. George Washington.

[pinboy3niner]

87. True story...

Decades ago, on the way to a junior college history class, someone jostled me in the hallway and my front upper partial (result of a VN War injury) popped off. I repaired to the men's room to try to fix it. Took me a while, but I finally wedged it back on by stuffing a little TP in.

When I got to class, the prof stopped in the middle of his lecture to demand an explanation for my tardiness. I was too ashamed to try to explain, so I just muttered that I forgot the time. After some more abuse from the prof I was able to take my seat.

I was mortified, humiliated, angry. With our mid-tem exam coming up, I figured that was how I would SHOW HIM!

I studied my ass off and even showed up on campus at 5am, hours before the exam, to go over my notes once again.

On the day the exam results were in, the prof announced that this was only the first or second time in his long years of teaching that he had a student get a perfect score on one of his exams. And he proceeded to walk down the aisle to plop my perfect paper on my desk.

Afterward, I had a lot of classmates coming up to ask if they could study with me.

But if it hadn't been for that prof putting m on the spot and humiliating me in front of the class, I never would have aced his exam. All because of my damn teeth!

[Cha]

49. Weak attempt to make this about Chelsea Manning instead of Michael Brown. This thread

is about Michael Brown and what is being done for him and his Justice.

ABC News ✔ @ABC
Follow
AG Holder: Federal autopsy on Michael Brown being conducted today by "one of the most experienced" US military medical examiners - @jjclo
11:40 AM - 18 Aug 2014 93 Retweets 53 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/08/18/president-obama-delivers-a-statement-on-iraq-and-ferguson/

[Luminous Animal]

54. This thread isn't about Michael Brown. It is about Obama and his awesomeness.

[Cha]

55. Oh you poor thing.. you're jealous.

[Luminous Animal]

56. *Sigh* If only I could be as pretty as Obama.

[Cha]

59. No worries, there's gotta be a thread around here with plenty of venomous whine and

cheeze where you can commiserate.

[sheshe2]

62. No! Excuse me?!

Do us all a favor and wake up and smell the coffee. This is about Michael Brown. Where the hell have you been all week when this was happening? Were you sleeping or just not that interested?! Why are you and noticeably many more here at DU so silent this week. Wow nary a peep from ya'll.

Nothing to bash the Prez so ya'll silent. Yikes, tonight...ya'll found a reason to bash the President so come on down. The President spoke and some on DU awoke.

THIS IS ABOUT THE MURDER OF MICHAEL BROWN! YOU GOT THAT! ? This is about a young man that was murdered. It pains me that you have no fucking clue.

Another black child/ young man died. Murder by cop. And here you are in all your glory with fricking snark.

[jeff47]

92. So did Manning. She pled guilty to some charges.

But don't let reality get in the way of your "No True Scotsman" rant.

[msanthrope]

113. Manning had been charged at that point, and she agreed with the President

that she was, in fact, guilty.

Thus, her naked plea of guilt on some counts, and her apology to the court at her sentencing.

[Cha]

38. LOve this post from underthematrix..

underthematrix (871 posts)

81. I'm so sick and tired of STUPIDITY

You need to listen very carefully to what the President has said on Ferguson and try READING his statement as well. President Obama is a man of action and few words. If you listened carefully, the President had FBI/Civil Rights division in Ferguson almost as soon as Michael Brown's body hit the ground. The DOJ civil rights division investigates HATE CRIMES. There have been and are 40 FBI agents in Ferguson conducting a CIVIL RIGHTS criminal investigation. A civil rights criminal investigation is not about the method of death of Michael Brown. It is the context and state of mind of his murderer, e.g. Darren Wilson that is the focus of the investigation. The DOJ would only be investigating at this level if they already knew something about the killer, Darren Wilson and the Ferguson PD that would make it very very likely that Michael Brown's murder was the result of a hate crime.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5409371

So many are always whining.. words are cheap let's see some action.. now, he's not saying what I want him to say Not, even noticing the action. So fucking obvious.

[freshwest]

58. Wow. Underthematrix is a voice who is speaking an inconvenient truth.

There is a lot of willful ignorance out there and it's Tea Party Proud.

[Cha]

60. Jonathan Swift was on to something there, freshwest. Gawd the stupid

that makes up shit as they go along to sound all important when whining about this President.

[IrishAyes]

39. Yet another prime example of intelligent leadership.

Just as we've come to expect. Thank you, President Obama!

[sheshe2]

52. Yeah!

You are here Irish.

Thank you! I'm trying to drown out some of the anti Obama noise here on, ya you guessed it, DU. WOW~ Who knew that our African American President would be criticized handling an African American child/man being shot down...murdered in Ferguson MO.

Who would have thought that possible? That he would be taken to task for his remarks, unfucking believable.

He sent the FBI he sent DOJ and AG Holder will be there Wednesday. What more do they want?

[Cha]

41. More Action from the Obama Admin.. AG Holder speaking..

Last edited Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:51 AM - Edit history (1)

ABC News ✔ @ABC
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AG Holder: Federal autopsy on Michael Brown being conducted today by "one of the most experienced" US military medical examiners - @jjclo
11:40 AM - 18 Aug 2014 93 Retweets 53 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/08/18/president-obama-delivers-a-statement-on-iraq-and-ferguson/

[freshwest]

63. My response to the charges being laid against Obama:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025408241#post108

[Cha]

65. Thank you so much for some reality, fresh.. so refreshingly necessary..

I hate that there are those who can't get what's going on and feel the fucking need to divide this board when we all want Justice for Michael Brown and Ferguson, MO.

That's going to be a good place to start!


@dougmillsnyt: President Obama following a statement on the situation in Ferguson, Missouri & Iraq

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/08/19/who-would-want-to-be-in-his-shoes/

Wonder how okaaawhatever's been.. I miss him/her?

Michael Brown

[freshwest]

68. Look at that face. We must keep our eyes on the prize. Okay.. posted July 26th. Hope he/she's okay.

[Cha]

71. Eyes on the Prize, Indeed, fresh..

Oh, there's that "folks" again.. don't they know better?!

[sheshe2]

100. ...

[loyalsister]

61. Hate groups in MO

The SPLC lists 23 different groups with a number of chapters scattered throughout the state. Other Klan members are mobilized to come down to "protect" white businesses. The worst possible scenario is real and it could be a hideous blood bath. Obama knows that a strident tone could only serve to motivate them more.

St. Louis
Aryan Terror Brigade
Racist Skinhead
Conservative Citizens Foundation, Inc
White Nationalist
Council of Conservative Citizens
Prophet of Doom
Anti-Muslim
Nation of Islam
Black Separatist


Wentzville (STL suburb)
Fraternal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
Ku Klux Klan
Invictus Books
General Hate


Kansas City
Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
Ku Klux Klan
Midland Hammerskins
Racist Skinhead
Nation of Islam
Black Separatist
National Socialist Movement
Neo-Nazi
Supreme White Alliance
Racist Skinhead
The Creativity Movement
Neo-Nazi
The Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ
Black Separatist

Springfield
New Empire Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
Ku Klux Klan

West Plains
Sadistic Souls Motorcycle Club
Neo-Nazi
Southern National Congress
Neo-Confederate
League of the South
Neo-Confederate

Potosi
Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
Ku Klux Klan

Wappapello
United Northern and Southern Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
Ku Klux Klan
Watchmen Bible Study Group
Christian Identity

Houston
Faith Baptist Church and Ministry
Christian Identity

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map#s=MO

[freshwest]

66. WHY Obama cannot make any remarks considered prejudical or visit: WILSON WILL WALK!

Who remembers this? I did and so did Obama:

Judge: Obama sex assault comments unlawful command influence.

Two defendants in military sexual assault cases cannot be punitively discharged, if found guilty, because of “unlawful command influence” derived from comments made by President Barack Obama, a judge ruled in a Hawaii military court this week.

Navy Judge Cmdr. Marcus Fulton ruled during pretrial hearings in two sexual assault cases — U.S. vs. Johnson and U.S. vs. Fuentes — that comments made by Obama as commander in chief would unduly influence any potential sentencing, according to a court documents obtained by Stars and Stripes.

On Wednesday and Thursday, Fulton approved the pretrial defense motions, which used as evidence comments that Obama made about sexual assault at a May 7 news conference:

“The bottom line is: I have no tolerance for this,” Obama said, according to an NBC News story submitted as evidence by defense attorneys in the sexual assault cases.

‘I expect consequences,” Obama added. “So I don’t just want more speeches or awareness programs or training, but ultimately folks look the other way. If we find out somebody’s engaging in this, they’ve got to be held accountable — prosecuted, stripped of their positions, court martialed, fired, dishonorably discharged. Period.”

Continued in article:

http://www.stripes.com/judge-obama-sex-assault-comments-unlawful-command-influence-1.225974

to okaawhatever:

He wasn't talking about Johnson or Fuentes, he was making policy. It was in response and support of a bill to end sexual assaults in the military by not allowing them to be swept under the rug by technicalities, such as how good a soldier they'd been otherwise.

The victim represented by the US never saw justice because of the way that the judge interpreted those words. I think the judge was wrong but that is what happened. So in order to not let that happen again, he cannot visit or say what he thinks on Wilson and all the rest of it.

It's not about him being a coward, not caring, or any of what he's been accused. It's about caring for the victim and his family enough to not have his words used to allow the shooter to escape justice.

His tough talk taken out of context hurt a victim.* Is that not a higher goal than satistfying voyeurs on the net demanding to see him rip into Ferguson PD and the shooter?

Is that cheap thrill worth letting Michael Brown and his community suffer by letting the defense use his words to establish undue influence to free Wilson?

Most of us know damn well that they will. This is a disgrace to talk about a man who is trying to get the best thing done, not go for the political win in the short run and lose the bigger goal of justice.

JMHO!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025408241#post108

*Note, he recieved no praise on DU for that tough speech in the interview on his stance, either, only fault finding that there were any rapes going on at all. Obama has two daughters and is called the First Feminist President by some women. Why think he doesn't care?

[Cha]

75. Thank you again, fresh!

[Cha]

69. PBO wants this Done the right way for Mike Brown's Justice.. not some feel good shit on the internet

Terra Firma @SDzzz
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If POTUS gets personally involved in the #Ferguson case it becomes politicized and will prejudice any case against Ofc Wilson...the goal.
8:30 PM - 18 Aug 2014 9 Retweets 6 favorites


@dougmillsnyt: President Obama following a statement on the situation in Ferguson, Missouri & Iraq

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/08/19/who-would-want-to-be-in-his-shoes/#comments

Michael Brown

[sheshe2]

73. You nailed it, Cha

I gotta go. However that face is one that understands all that is happening in Ferguson.

He also holds the weight of the world on his shoulders. He has absolutely no support of congress and many Governors like MO are not doing there jobs. How many jobs was this man elected to do? Seriously?! Does anyone get this? He is doing it all alone and no one lifts a finger to help him.

All he gets is blame and ridicule and that breaks my heart.

[Cha]

74. President Obama on the Journalists in Ferguson, MO, she.. too "parental"? smh

:large
Matt Galloway ✔ @mattgallowaycbc
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Obama: "Police should not be arresting journalists for doing their jobs." #Ferguson, now: @GettyImages' Scott Olson.
1:34 PM - 18 Aug 2014 420 Retweets 123 favorites

http://gawker.com/ferguson-police-try-to-shut-down-don-lemons-live-broadc-1623567619

[kath]

76. Awww, your poor widdle broken heart.

[sheshe2]

82. Cute!

How about Michael? Hmmmm?

Does that break your heart, kath? Does it?

[Cha]

83. I know.. charming, huh?

Justice 4 Michael Brown

[JustAnotherGen]

85. I read it and thought this

Happy Tuesday!

[Cha]

86. Precisely, Gen~

Michael Brown

[sheshe2]

95. Sometimes they can't help themselves~

Thank you JAG~

[JustAnotherGen]

98. Here's a funny for you

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=374735

Read my response below! I might even get a hide for that - but it's an obvious troll. Sometimes you just gotta have fun with the nonsense!

[sheshe2]

107. I didn't have much time this morning....

However i just went back and saw you have survived a hide, JAG I did love your sub-thread~

[sheshe2]

114. Hey kath...

Crickets from you on your compassion for Michael's death, oh wait let's make that murder. Nah you just came here to take a swipe at the President, Michael and me.

Sadly kath, you seem to have no heart in this situation, you just came to ridicule. That's just sad kath. So very sad.

I find that at the very least.

[tavalon]

117. Not okay at all

So you don't agree with sheshe. Present your case. Do not ridicule.

[sheshe2]

118. Thank you, tavalon.

[Cha]

77. ..

[Cha]

78. I appreciate Thinking People like you who go for the facts and not try to

gin up a lot of hate because the President isn't saying it exactly the way you want him to.. even though it would hurt Michael Brown's case.

Thinking People.

[sheshe2]

80. Hey!

Brava to us!

Take a bow here Cha. You are beautiful.

[Cha]

81. Hey.. don't mind if I do, she..

Michael Brown

[Cha]

88. Hawaii Kick

[Cha]

89. Early morn kick..

[mcar]

90. K&R

Thanks for this, she. The president is leading by action.

The naysayers are really reaching on this one.

[sheshe2]

108. You are so right, mcar!

[BumRushDaShow]

91. K&R

I am hoping a positive will come out of this by getting the local cops de-militerized and getting the citizenry engaged enough to vote this fall.

[sheshe2]

96. That is my wish as well.

Also, justice for Michael and for Ferguson, BRDS.

[underpants]

101. I have no problem with how he handled it

It should make both sides happy but it will piss both sides off

[Cha]

106. "Damned if he does; damned if he doesn’t" from Steve Benen(a compelling writer on Rachel's blog)

"After President Obama carefully avoided any provocative comments yesterday about developments in Ferguson, many on the left wondered, “Why couldn’t he go further?”

And at the same time, in response to the same tepid, cautious comments, many on the right wondered, “Why did he go too far?”

More blah blah blah via rove
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/damned-if-he-does-damned-if-he-doesnt-0

This is why he didn't "go further..", she..

When Holder will say what Obama will not

"President Obama held a brief press conference in the White House yesterday to address two major topics: developments in Iraq, where there’s been some noticeable progress, and conditions in Ferguson, Missouri. On the former, the president was focused and specific. On the latter, Obama was vague and cautious.

This almost certainly wasn’t an accident. Ezra Klein had a terrific piece yesterday noting many of the reasons the president “won’t give the Ferguson speech his supporters want.” There’s a fair amount to this, much of it having to do with the White House’s belief that Obama’s remarks on racially-charged conflicts tend to make those problems worse."

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/when-holder-will-say-what-obama-will-not

[sheshe2]

109. I just got home from work a short while ago.

I love that link to Holder...

But U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder often seems willing to say what Obama won’t. Take yesterday, for example, when the nation’s top federal law-enforcement official made a not-so-subtle jab at local law enforcement in a written statement.

“I realize there is tremendous interest in the facts of the incident that led to Michael Brown’s death, but I ask for the public’s patience as we conduct this investigation. The selective release of sensitive information that we have seen in this case so far is troubling to me. No matter how others pursue their own separate inquiries, the Justice Department is resolved to preserve the integrity of its investigation. This is a critical step in restoring trust between law enforcement and the community, not just in Ferguson, but beyond.”

That was fairly blunt rhetoric under the circumstances, and with Holder traveling to Ferguson tomorrow, one assumes the Attorney General will have some other choice words once on the ground locally.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/when-holder-will-say-what-obama-will-not

I need to go back tomorrow and read some of those sub-links, Cha. Thank you, a great read. Truth Cha....facts in black and white for all to read. Sadly some will not.

[Cha]

110. You're welcome, she.. Thankfully these writers like Steve Benen get it.

[Cha]

111. Two revelvant Tweets, she..

meta @metaquest
The Ferguson Police are playing everybody. Saying one thing, doing another, terrorizing. Got the media focused on POTUS instead of them.

Franky Lamouche @FrankyLamouche
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@metaquest @terri_georgia - why is ferguson the president's responsibility. can't white people run a town.
4:42 PM - 19 Aug 2014 14 Retweets 3 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/08/19/chat-on-38/

[napkinz]

115. kick

nt

[sheshe2]

116. Hey you~