Medical Examiner: Marijuana Could've Made Ferguson Teen Act 'Crazy'

[Capt. Obvious]

The doctor who carried out a private autopsy on Michael Brown expressed a pretty old-school view on marijuana in a Monday interview with Fox News, when he speculated that the drug may have made the black teen act "crazy" at the time he was shot by a white cop.

Dr. Michael Baden, a former New York City chief medical examiner, determined that the 18-year-old was shot six times, including twice in the head, by Ferguson, Mo. police officer Darren Wilson. A second autopsy carried out by St. Louis County reportedly found that Brown had marijuana in his system when he was shot on Aug. 9.

"Does the fact that they found marijuana, does that exclude the fact that there might be other drugs in his system or even that the marijuana was laced with anything?” host Greta Van Susteren asked Baden. “Is that the final analysis or could there be more information to come in terms of the toxicology?”

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"Very important with marijuana is the levels of the different drugs that are present in marijuana to have an opinion as to whether or not he might have been affected by the marijuana, so that he may have been acting in a crazy way and may have done things to the police officer that normally he would not have done," he said.

Reefer Madness

[RKP5637]

1. Not that SOS again by this dr. n/t

[kelliekat44]

29. They didn't drug test the cop or the rest of police force. Even legal prescription drugs can make

one act crazy. I know for a fact that many police use methamphetamines and other drugs, especially the one who have served in the military. Not all but many of them do.

[HooptieWagon]

2. Ah, the old "Reefer Madness" bullshit.

IMO, its far more likely that the killer cop had steroids in his system, making him aggressive and beligerent, than any marijuana making Brown act "crazy". Why hasn't the cop been given a drug test? Let's see his drug test results released to the press... then we can have a discussion.

[VanGoghRocks]

42. He should have just said "No." :sarcasm:

[WinkyDink]

3. Baden is clearly a moran. MJ makes a person sloooooow dooooooown (tm "Taxi").

[PoliticAverse]

4. Baden btw is the (apparently paid) forensic science contributor for Fox News Channel. n/t

[pintobean]

6. He's also the guy

that the lawyers for the Brown family had do their autopsy.

He waived his fee, but they paid his expenses.

[FarPoint]

37. He was chummy with Hannity...

Maybe Baden tries to be neutral?

[Rex]

5. Amazing how many 'experts' are lining up to talk shit about a murdered kid.

Fuck them all...shameless bastards.

[LisaL]

9. He is the guy that the family hired to do an autopsy.

So he is certainly an expert unlike most armchair detectives here.

[Rex]

10. Yeah the people that like him because he is on Foxnews are obvious.

Unlike most others here that know Foxnews anything is bullshit. His views on MJ are really way outdated and fit right into anything a Repuke would say about the drug.

[pintobean]

12. I like Steve Leser because he is on Foxnews

and pot makes me paranoid as hell.

[Rex]

19. Hey if people want to shit on the kid before his body is buried, then so be it.

I am glad to know which side they fall on.

Did you like Steve when he was on RT?

[pintobean]

27. You think Dr. Baden is shitting on the kid?

Was he shitting on the kid during the autopsy press conference?
You do know, that if there's a trial and/or a civil suit, he will be testifying, right?

I like Steve. I even liked him when he attacked me in Meta.

[Rex]

30. Well why did he bring up the RWing talking point of MJ as an excuse for the cops behavior?

I mean if YOU want to believe something not founded in any study or facts to date about MJ AND have no problem with him playing the race card...then that is your right.

Did you like Steve when he was on RT?

[tammywammy]

13. He's talking about other drugs in with the marijuana.

I'm not really sure why this is controversial. He said it's important to know if there was another drug in with the weed and how much and that could contribute to irrational behavior. And any other drugs and the amount would show up on the toxicology.

[Rex]

20. Not a big deal to me, people that like Foxnews will agree with him

people that know he is just playing the race card will see it for what it is.

[redqueen]

23. What other drugs?

The ones they didn't find?

Or the ones that they found but for some mysterious reason decided not to mention they found?

[RobinA]

44. I'm Lost Here

Some other drug in his system along with marijuana made a cop shoot him? Kinda like the old "contact high" I guess.

That could be a new defense. "It wasn't my fault Your Honor, he was high and that affected my judgement."

[janlyn]

11. Seriously???

Back in the day the only thing I ever saw someone going crazy over was a bag of doritos!!!
CNN did two fantastic shows on marijuana. They were enlightening. You out to google them.

[Rex]

22. Well then there are the people that post here that love Foxnews

and the Foxnews team. Strange I know, but there it is for all the world to see.

[pintobean]

33. Doubling down on that stupid crap?

[Rex]

34. No just pointing out the obvious.

You can pretend otherwise all you want to.

[RobinA]

45. I Saw

some pretty wild laughter in my day. I wonder if that counts.

[bigdarryl]

7. WEED doesn't make you act crazy

[world wide wally]

8. Has the shooter been tested for substances in his body?

[2pooped2pop]

14. bingo n/t

[FarPoint]

38. He should of been tested.. industrial accidents require such.

Auto accidents require it ..

[bullwinkle428]

15. Utterly pathetic ignorance displayed by one of the supposedly

most prominent medical examiners in the world.

[geardaddy]

16. FFS

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. We haven't seen any toxicology report anyway, but there's no evidence

that Mr. Brown was under the influence of cannabis at the time of the shooting: none, zero, zip, nada, and a toxicology report wouldn't tell you that anyway.

All we have is an anonymous source supposedly familiar with the St. Louis County toxicology report who claims that it find cannabis in Mr. Brown's system. That could be from the night before, that morning, or two weeks prior. It means nothing.

Since the Ferguson PD, St. Louis County PD, and the prosecutor are apparently acting as defense counsel for Darren Wilson, there's no particular motivation to believe anything they say anyway, especially as anonymous sources. The medical examiner herself, to her credit, refused comment.

Besides all that, since when does pot make you attack a cop. It's ludicrous.

[gollygee]

18. There are four eye witnesses who saw that he wasn't acting crazy

He was turning around with his hands up.

[Capt. Obvious]

25. Those witnesses were probably on harder drugs

[Rex]

35. Why can't you just love Foxnews and their dedicated team of experts?

The good doc just threw out the oldest canard about MJ and played the race card...why can't you be happy with that? Some in this very thread LOVE the fact!

Just have to be different now don't ya!?

[redqueen]

21. Man, the M$M and its status-quo loving supporters are really switching to overdrive on this.

I guess they're hoping there's enough ignorant bourgeois sheeple out there to make it worth their while.

[Rex]

26. Pathetic ain't it?

MJ is evil I tells ya! Make ya charge at cops (which I have NEVER seen or heard of in my lifetime)! I agree, they must think there are some incredibly stupid people out there.

[butterfly77]

24. Bullshit..

[madokie]

28. In 40 some odd years

of smoking pot I never seen anyone do stupid shit because of their having smoked some weed.
Funny stuff, yeah, dishonest stuff, no, harmful stuff, no

F* this ME and his tainted mind

[underpants]

31. HE did "a private autopsy" - not the one requested by the family, right?

[PoliticAverse]

39. Baden is the one requested by the family to do the autopsy...

they apparently paid his transportation costs but not any additional fee to him.

From: http://www.newsweek.com/what-we-learned-michael-browns-autopsy-265247

Dr. Baden said Brown’s family asked him and Prof. Shawn Parcells, a pathology assistant, to conduct the independent autopsy because they did not trust local authorities to conduct an unbiased examination of the teenager,

[LordGlenconner]

32. The family made a mistake hiring this guy

Fox News contributer and apparent wingnut.

He doesn't know fuck all about marijuana either.

[Jacoby365]

36. Dr. Baden was answering a question about other drugs.

The doctor who carried out a private autopsy on Michael Brown expressed a pretty old-school view on marijuana in a Monday interview with Fox News, when he speculated that the drug may have made the black teen act "crazy" at the time he was shot by a white cop.

I think that quote and headline by TPM and Catherine Thompson in the article is a total misrepresentation of what Dr. Baden actually said. Greta Van Susteren asked him about Marijuana being laced with other drugs. I saw Dr. Baden on CNN and he was asked if marijuana could have made Mike Brown act in a crazy way that could have made him get shot, and Dr. Baden said "No".

[pintobean]

40. Not now.

There's a feeding frenzy going on.

[Lex]

41. The one who acted crazy is the COP.

He gunned down an unarmed teen.

[GeorgeGist]

43. Shooting an unarmed man 6 times is crazy.

[Rex]

46. Not now.

A few are too busy pissing on that poor kids grave to give a crap.

[Lonusca]

47. As a few other posters have noted

Dr Baden was referring to the effects of, basically, a laced joint. He didn't mention any drugs - but in theory PCP, embalming fluid, etc. would fit the bill.

He was not talking about the effects of pot making Brown crazy. That is taking his comments way out of context.