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A little bit of joy in the middle of all this madness – what a gorgeous photo.... (Original Post) Playinghardball Aug 2014 OP
She's awesome. K&R pintobean Aug 2014 #1
For once, "awesome" is NOT hyperbole! Stardust Aug 2014 #15
Many eons ago we use to say "throws like a girl". upaloopa Aug 2014 #2
perhaps 40 years ago I remember playing catch with a cousin hfojvt Aug 2014 #5
Both of my daughters pitched for their softball team. panader0 Aug 2014 #8
People still say that. nt redqueen Aug 2014 #10
You know damn well I am going to post it and take the abuse underpants Aug 2014 #28
The term "Throws like a girl" generally implies someone did not learn to throw before age six. happyslug Aug 2014 #17
Regardless, there's still a certain amount of gender stereotyping implied in the phrase. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #35
I agree, but I heard it aimed at men and boys when I was growing up, not girls and women happyslug Aug 2014 #41
It is insulting males by comparing them to girls. redqueen Aug 2014 #50
I did not make the comment, just reporting that I heard it when I was young. happyslug Aug 2014 #52
Yep. After making a successful billiards run I was "accused" Eleanors38 Aug 2014 #20
Yep. And now it means something COMPLETELY different! calimary Aug 2014 #23
10 years ago on DU - quite a day on this one underpants Aug 2014 #29
Here was Lawrence O'Donnell's story about that csziggy Aug 2014 #34
That was very good. Glad I stopped saying that 30 someyears ago upaloopa Aug 2014 #48
Great cover! cyberswede Aug 2014 #3
I always thought that MLB would be first to allow women. longship Aug 2014 #4
but they did have a 'League of their Own' promoted by MLB owners rurallib Aug 2014 #6
Whoa! cwydro Aug 2014 #7
she's awesome. heard an excerpt from an interview given by her La Lioness Priyanka Aug 2014 #9
My daughter VA_Jill Aug 2014 #11
Throw like a girl! me b zola Aug 2014 #12
Puts A Smile on Your Face erpowers Aug 2014 #13
She's really got some skills! Turns "throws like a girl" on it's head. AtomicKitten Aug 2014 #14
Thanks for posting. I feel so sad today . N/T nirvana555 Aug 2014 #16
As I am learning to do myself, AtomicKitten Aug 2014 #18
ROFLMAO!!!!! calimary Aug 2014 #24
OMG that's hilarious! AtomicKitten Aug 2014 #25
I would caption it as - "well, haven't you wondered?" calimary Aug 2014 #31
OMG thanks for that. Ineeda Aug 2014 #47
I can almost hear a cartoon soundtrack AtomicKitten Aug 2014 #49
Sensational, Mo'ne. brer cat Aug 2014 #19
Our son started a SI subscription for us recently...This is one issue that goes in the vault. Tikki Aug 2014 #21
What a great photo! mcar Aug 2014 #22
I hope the SI curse is skipped underpants Aug 2014 #26
kick cwydro Aug 2014 #27
Mo'ne makes us proud. She is the epitome of all that is good in our world. cornball 24 Aug 2014 #30
Great photo of a totally AWESOME kid! etherealtruth Aug 2014 #32
Sports Illustrated getting it right with the girls. toby jo Aug 2014 #33
If she's throwing 70+ already, she could be hitting the 90's by the time she's an adult. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #36
Agree. lovemydog Aug 2014 #38
Young pitchers have to be careful about overdoing it, though eridani Aug 2014 #42
Now that is playing hardball. JEB Aug 2014 #37
Brilliant photo! mackerel Aug 2014 #39
Great video lovemydog Aug 2014 #40
The Sports Illustrated jinx. Too bad. Schmice2 Aug 2014 #43
Which is, of course, explained by odds Patiod Aug 2014 #53
Just caught this story a couple days ago... JohnnyRingo Aug 2014 #44
Wow... toddwv Aug 2014 #45
she wants to play in the wnba Mosby Aug 2014 #51
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2014 #46
Thanks for posting! Philadelphia believes in Dragons right now! ALL the Dragons. Patiod Aug 2014 #54

Stardust

(3,894 posts)
15. For once, "awesome" is NOT hyperbole!
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 05:38 PM
Aug 2014
http://www.people.com/article/mone-davis-little-league-philadelphia-taney-dragons


"Throwing 70 miles an hour – that's throwing like a girl," the star of the Philadelphia Taney Dragons told CBS News of her famed fastballs. On Friday, the South Philly native became the first girl to throw a shutout in Little League World Series history, allowing only two hits, striking out eight batters and walking none against Tennessee.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
2. Many eons ago we use to say "throws like a girl".
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:19 PM
Aug 2014

Once while playing first base I got my thumb bent backward while tagging out a runner. It hurt too much to play I thought but the team wanted me to stay in the game.
I wanted someone to throw a ball to me to see how bad it felt to catch. I saw a girl standing by the dugout and asked her to throw a ball to me. I thought she would throw like a girl and it would not hurt to catch the ball. She burned a fast ball at me overhand and just about took my glove hand off. It hurt so bad tears came to my eyes. I never said "throws like a girl" again until now.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
5. perhaps 40 years ago I remember playing catch with a cousin
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:51 PM
Aug 2014

every time she missed the ball (and had to chase it) she would in turn then wing the ball way over my head. That got old, but no question she had an arm on her.

Then there was another older cousin or something. Showed up at one of our cousin softball games. I was pitching - slow pitch. I had no glove, because we did not take such things camping, and even though there were many extra gloves there were none for a lefty like me. Anyway this lady blasted a line drive up the center and I, unthinkingly tried to catch it, with my bare hand.

Not a good idea, although I did not break any bones, it was quite painful.

Another girl at the German club picnic, when I was a freshman, back in 1977 was pitching softball when a line drive smacked her right in the thigh. She just stretched a little and kept right on pitching.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
8. Both of my daughters pitched for their softball team.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 05:09 PM
Aug 2014

I was a coach. I used to catch for them, and I can guarantee that they threw hard. I used to sit on a bucket and catch for practice.
I had many black and blue bruises on my shins. (We went 14 and 1 on the last season, years ago)

underpants

(182,733 posts)
28. You know damn well I am going to post it and take the abuse
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 06:52 PM
Aug 2014

Well deserved but still it was funny. Let's just hope no one breaks a heel.

Give me a minute. That's all I have ever asked

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
17. The term "Throws like a girl" generally implies someone did not learn to throw before age six.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 05:53 PM
Aug 2014

Now, if you go to google, you get a lot of cites saying girls do throw different from boys, but then if you read those articles they indicate boys can throw with more power and longer range, which reflects the greater muscle mass of men, but the basic style of throwing was the same for both sexes.

First is the how much practice did players of both sexes have had? The more practice you have throwing, the less you "throw like a girl" and the more you throw "like a man". Notice the style is the issue, throwing like a girl is the throwing of someone just beginning to throw. As you throw (and it is faster to do this at younger ages then older ages), your body and mind adjusts to do a better job of throwing. Practice make perfect. No practice, even a male will throw like a girl.

This is most noticeable among young ball players. If you learn to throw before age six, i.e. parents start to throw with their Children. such children quickly learn to throw more and more correctly. If you do NOT throw a ball with other people you end up "Throwing like a girl" for you did NOT learn how to throw correctly. This is true of both males AND females.

This was more common with women then with men, thus the term "Throw like a girl" came from the fact many women did NOT throw balls when they were young and thus did NOT learn how to do so when it was the best time to learn. Less practice, less ability to throw.

Throwing like an old washer woman was a variation of the statement of throwing like a girl. Such a statement was mostly aimed at those few men who can not throw a ball correctly. Both statements show that such people do exist in our society for you do NOT make statements like that except if there is some basis behind that statement.

Notice the main reason for "throwing like a girl" is NOT that the thrower in male or female, but has NOT had the opportunity to spend the time to learn to throw correctly. It is harder to learn to throw correctly as you age, thus a lot of women who did not throw was children end up throwing like "a girl". The worse part is that women who throw like "Old Washer Women" often taught their sons and daughter to throw, by just playing catch with their sons and daughters. Yes, the old "Washer Women" threw like "Old Washer Women", but because their sons and daughters started to learn to throw quite young, learn how to throw correctly. Thus you can see sons and daughters learning to throw while playing with adults and the young one throwing correctly, while below age six where THROWING like "a Girl". That reflected it is easier for the young to learn something, then the old to learn something.

Some articles on throwing the male vs female learning to throw:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/throw-like-a-girl-with-some-practice-you-can-do-better/2012/09/10/9ffc8bc8-dc09-11e1-9974-5c975ae4810f_story.html

virtually all novice throwers ‘throw like girls,

http://neuroanthropology.net/2009/02/01/throwing-like-a-girls-brain/

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
50. It is insulting males by comparing them to girls.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 12:32 PM
Aug 2014

I can't believe this shit still has to be spelled out here.

Oh no wait I totally can.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
52. I did not make the comment, just reporting that I heard it when I was young.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 01:59 PM
Aug 2014

It was a common comment about men and boys who had, for various reasons, limited experience in throwing a ball. Like many girls who had limited experience, they threw like a person with limited experience. In the days of my youth, before girls were permitted into Little League, it was more common for girls to throw like someone who had NOT done it often, as opposed to boys, thus the comment.

In my youth the more common phase was "throwing like an old washer woman" as opposed to "Throwing like a girl", but the point was the same, it was aimed at a person with limited throwing experience who needed my experience in throwing,

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
20. Yep. After making a successful billiards run I was "accused"
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 06:03 PM
Aug 2014

of shooting like a girl. I looked, said "thank you," and continued on.

longship

(40,416 posts)
4. I always thought that MLB would be first to allow women.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:30 PM
Aug 2014

It still has not happened. But when I see (and read) things like this my black (figurative) feminist heart warms.

I recently watched 42, the flick about Jackie Robinson, and can see a future baseball biopic entitled Mo'ne.

rurallib

(62,403 posts)
6. but they did have a 'League of their Own' promoted by MLB owners
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 04:58 PM
Aug 2014

back in the WWII era. They were way ahead of their times in that regard.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
9. she's awesome. heard an excerpt from an interview given by her
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 05:13 PM
Aug 2014

such poise for her age. it was pretty remarkable

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
13. Puts A Smile on Your Face
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 05:28 PM
Aug 2014

It is a great cover connected to a great story. I hope everything goes great for her in the future.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
18. As I am learning to do myself,
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 06:01 PM
Aug 2014

the best advice I can give you is to balance soul-crushing news or circumstance with something that makes you laugh.

Cheers

This always does it for me:

calimary

(81,184 posts)
24. ROFLMAO!!!!!
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 06:37 PM
Aug 2014

GREAT video!!!! OMG!!!!

May I add...

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For those who need an extra smile at a time like this.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
47. OMG thanks for that.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 07:23 AM
Aug 2014

Disproves the 'cats always land on their feet' myth. That one lands on it's face....a lot. (And you go girl, Mo'ne!)

brer cat

(24,544 posts)
19. Sensational, Mo'ne.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 06:02 PM
Aug 2014

Thanks for posting, Playinghardball...a welcome break from all the bad news these days.

K&R

Tikki

(14,556 posts)
21. Our son started a SI subscription for us recently...This is one issue that goes in the vault.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 06:08 PM
Aug 2014

Well, first in the trophy case for awhile and then into the vault.


Tikki

mcar

(42,294 posts)
22. What a great photo!
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 06:09 PM
Aug 2014

What a wonderful and promising athlete. As the mother of two nearly grown sons, I have to say I love this generation of women. Strong, smart, ambitious.

cornball 24

(1,475 posts)
30. Mo'ne makes us proud. She is the epitome of all that is good in our world.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 06:59 PM
Aug 2014

Watching our Taney St. Dragons and all the kids playing in Williamsport is what it's all about-hope for our future.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
36. If she's throwing 70+ already, she could be hitting the 90's by the time she's an adult.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 10:34 PM
Aug 2014

Breaking the MLB gender barrier is a real possibility.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
38. Agree.
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 10:58 PM
Aug 2014

I'm also thinking of some folks who were on the cover of SI at a young age. Ali, Woods, Magic Johnson. She's in some good company. I'm gonna watch her pitch tomorrow on tv!

eridani

(51,907 posts)
42. Young pitchers have to be careful about overdoing it, though
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 12:33 AM
Aug 2014

Wise coaching should help her to keep from trashing her arm.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
40. Great video
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:16 PM
Aug 2014

of last inning of her last game:



Final out at around 5 minute mark. Interview at around 9".

Reminder - she's pitching tomorrow (Wednesday). It should be on espn or at your neighborhood sports bar / restaurant!

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
53. Which is, of course, explained by odds
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 02:11 PM
Aug 2014

You feature ANYONE or ANY team, and the chances are better that they'll lose along the way than the chances that they end up at #1

Which is all my non-math-brain way of saying "Regression to the mean"
http://www.philippahuckle.com/news-and-opinions/blog/the-fallacy-of-the-sports-illustrated-jinx/

JohnnyRingo

(18,623 posts)
44. Just caught this story a couple days ago...
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 01:40 AM
Aug 2014

What a phenom! She should rightly be proud of herself.

Thanx for posting.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
54. Thanks for posting! Philadelphia believes in Dragons right now! ALL the Dragons.
Wed Aug 20, 2014, 02:19 PM
Aug 2014

Mo'Ne is a superstar AND she has a great team behind her, which makes the story even better.

Black and white kids playing together, black and white parents working together against the handicap of crappy fields (no parking, no bathrooms, no drainage - which means mud for days after a storm) crappy practice facilities - non of the suburban comforts. Great dads coaching, great moms there for every game. Upper middle class kids and poor kids (a lot of parents can't afford hotel rooms and transportation for Williamsport), all working together and being coached to be VERY good sports and academic successes.

As someone who entered high school the year Title 9 went into effect, I'm a huge sucker for a Girl sports success story.

But right now, the story we need is the story of the TEAM and the Taney families and how they manage to put aside their differences and succeed.

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