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Why do women (mostly) NOT pay for sex? (Original Post) eridani Aug 2014 OP
OK, I LOLed. Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #1
Because men are (mostly) hornier bluestateguy Aug 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Aug 2014 #11
*facepalm* LeftyMom Aug 2014 #23
Hahaha! Starry Messenger Aug 2014 #34
"blossom must never fly from bee to bee to bee..." nt msongs Aug 2014 #3
Because women are much better than men at handling money. R B Garr Aug 2014 #4
Plus, you never have to cook B.O.B. breakfast in the morning. Warpy Aug 2014 #5
Never argues with you, either. moriah Aug 2014 #13
Or kvetches about any spending on yourself Warpy Aug 2014 #14
But but butbutbut Why cant you just use your imaginaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaation???????!?!?!!?!! Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #21
They do... Wounded Bear Aug 2014 #6
True dat. In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #17
Mostly due to the fact of trash thread. Iggo Aug 2014 #7
Because they (mostly) don't NEED to jmowreader Aug 2014 #8
Men are more generous? grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #9
That & because it's a seller's market johnlucas Aug 2014 #10
They really do make far more BOBs for women.... moriah Aug 2014 #12
It's because WE are always here LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #15
Because (mostly)... 99Forever Aug 2014 #16
I've heard my whole life from every sort of woman that dicks are a dime a dozen TheKentuckian Aug 2014 #18
A little girl and boy named Johnny were playing doctor malaise Aug 2014 #37
Supply and demand? Lex Aug 2014 #19
Because women treat men like people and not commodities treestar Aug 2014 #20
Bingo. nt laundry_queen Aug 2014 #24
Because we can get it for free. smirkymonkey Aug 2014 #22
Because women can get laid for free? davidn3600 Aug 2014 #25
My, my, my you do realise that talking point is MRA bunkum intaglio Aug 2014 #30
Give me a break.. davidn3600 Aug 2014 #32
"Give you a break"? intaglio Aug 2014 #33
Beauty has always been in the eye of the beholder davidn3600 Aug 2014 #39
Lovely segue into fantasyland intaglio Aug 2014 #41
It may not be as easy as "they only have to ask for it", but... Liberal MRA Aug 2014 #42
Are you a woman? I doubt it intaglio Aug 2014 #43
No. He really doesn't get that. Squinch Aug 2014 #38
Bullshit. You do realize that "free" often includes-- eridani Aug 2014 #31
Maybe... MadrasT Aug 2014 #35
also because what many women want BainsBane Aug 2014 #26
Yes betsuni Aug 2014 #28
Did they pay for sex pre-industrially? joshcryer Aug 2014 #27
Men are more impulsive and prone to risk. RandySF Aug 2014 #29
We make less money. Starry Messenger Aug 2014 #36
Men (mostly) don't pay for sex either. Orrex Aug 2014 #40

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
2. Because men are (mostly) hornier
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 10:34 PM
Aug 2014

and more prone to wanting to screw around.

There are exceptions to the rule, but they just that, exception.

Response to bluestateguy (Reply #2)

Warpy

(111,138 posts)
5. Plus, you never have to cook B.O.B. breakfast in the morning.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 10:55 PM
Aug 2014

and you always know where he's been--and where he is.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
21. But but butbutbut Why cant you just use your imaginaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaation???????!?!?!!?!!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:15 AM
Aug 2014



...I kid, i kid.

Whatever torques your chassis, your bizniz and not none o mine.
 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
10. That & because it's a seller's market
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 02:32 AM
Aug 2014

And women are in control of the sales.
Demand exceeds supply so the suppliers can set their prices comfortably.
Women have the supply by the way.

Biological bias. It's what it is.
John Lucas

TheKentuckian

(25,020 posts)
18. I've heard my whole life from every sort of woman that dicks are a dime a dozen
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 09:59 AM
Aug 2014

I know a few things - women aren't going to overpay for something so available, that there is no way to make change for a penny, that there are very few guys will not let the 8/10 of a penny slide anyway, and probably almost every time a woman has mentioned money the guy reached for his wallet, unable to even comprehend that it was an offer.

malaise

(268,693 posts)
37. A little girl and boy named Johnny were playing doctor
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 07:46 AM
Aug 2014

The lil boy pulled out his penis and told her that she doesn't have one of those so she was inferior.
She ran home to her mother all upset. Her mother told her go and tell Johnny that with what she had she could have as many of those as she wanted.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
20. Because women treat men like people and not commodities
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:10 AM
Aug 2014

And when we are too old/ugly/fat we accept that we won't get it and don't feel entitled.

Men can find better ways to make money.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
25. Because women can get laid for free?
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 05:34 AM
Aug 2014

A man that wants sex has to go through all the dating rituals and prove to the woman he is a worthy suitor worth the woman's time and attention. Men might pay a prostitute for sex in order to bypass having to jump through all those hoops and just get right down to the sex.

In comparison, a woman that just wants sex usually just has to ask.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
30. My, my, my you do realise that talking point is MRA bunkum
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:47 AM
Aug 2014

... don't you? That same nonsense is used by MGTOW and incel misogynists; it also shows up on 4chan and redpill reddit.

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A short glossary of misogynists


 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
32. Give me a break..
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:58 AM
Aug 2014

Im describing stereotypical dating habits which is very common in the western world for generations. It's not true for everyone in every situation. But in general, this is the typical dating habit.

A man asks out a woman for a date. They go out to dinner or a movie or a walk in the park or whatever. And then it advances on more dates if they like each other. They become a couple and start having sex. They move in together. Then they get married.

This is how it works...where am I wrong in this process?

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
33. "Give you a break"?
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 07:11 AM
Aug 2014

No

Both sexes have people who are older or younger, physically attractive and ugly, both have people with character flaws, both have members with personal hygiene problems but in your world, somehow, the women in these categories "only have to ask for it".

Utter and complete bunk based on fantastic lies and a sense that men deserve to have sexual intercourse.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
39. Beauty has always been in the eye of the beholder
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:02 AM
Aug 2014

In your world, you seem to think men only want stick-thin Victoria's Secret models. If that's what you believe, you don't know men at all.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
41. Lovely segue into fantasyland
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 10:21 AM
Aug 2014

and, of course, a lie as my sigoth would inform you if she could be bothered to interact with fools like yourself

You just cannot see men as human, in your mind all men are sexually driven and incapable of making choices. Sorry to disillusion you but men are not all automata rutting with whoever offers themselves. Similarly women are not the mindless sex machines your worldview makes them out to be.

 

Liberal MRA

(6 posts)
42. It may not be as easy as "they only have to ask for it", but...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 01:44 PM
Aug 2014

...women do have an advantage when it comes to dating and seeking casual sex. On any dating or adult personals site, there are far more men than women, and women are far more likely to be contacted by a member of the opposite sex than men are.

It's the same in any social setting, such as a bar or a party. Women are far less likely to initiate contact than men, so the risk of rejection is usually always on the man. This isn't based on "fantastic lies and a sense that men deserve to have sexual intercourse", it's based on reality and a sense that the dating and mating game is rigged in women's favor.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
43. Are you a woman? I doubt it
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 02:28 PM
Aug 2014

"women do have an advantage ..."; when it comes to being sexually assaulted and subjected to social pressure to "perform"

"On any adult dating or personals site ..."; if what you say is true that just means there are fewer women using such sites, maybe because they are constantly being propositioned by creeps

"women far more likely to be contacted ..."; if what you say is true then that is to be expected,

"Women are far less likely to initiate contact than men ..."; maybe that's because they don't want to initiate contact with creeps

All you are saying displays your utter contempt for women and your inability to treat them as any more than sex toys. Go and visit AVfM and Paul Elam's conceited little crowd of numptys, you'll find yourself at home.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
31. Bullshit. You do realize that "free" often includes--
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:53 AM
Aug 2014

--getting the shit beaten out of you and possibly killed, right?

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
35. Maybe...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 07:36 AM
Aug 2014

...and only *maybe* and only for *some women*, that could be true if she doesn't care who she has sex with.

Trust me, women hear "no" too. And it is just as disappointing and just as frustrating.

But what I said when it has happened to me, which is what many women say is, "OK, hey, that particular guy isn't that into me. Bummer." We don't do what many men do, which is take that evidence and spin it into a systemic problem, and castigate the entire population of the "opposite" sex for being stingy assholes who won't "put out".

This fantasy that women can just get sex with someone they want anytime the want it would be positively hilarious if it weren't so damaging.

If the men who engage in this kind of complaining lowered their standards and treated women like people and not like fucktoys, they might get laid once in a while.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
26. also because what many women want
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 05:41 AM
Aug 2014

can't be bought. If you just want to get off, the vibrator does the trick. The rest is about something else that money can't buy.

I also think women are less gullible. Men will watch porn or have sex with a prostitute and actually believe the woman/girl is into it, turned on by him. Women just aren't that stupid. They know if a guy is into them, they don't have to pay him.

betsuni

(25,376 posts)
28. Yes
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:22 AM
Aug 2014

to the "men will watch porn or have sex with a prostitute and actually believe the woman/girl is into it." Really, so gullible. What a lofty opinion they have of themselves. I almost envy it. The last time I had a racy dream, I had a harem of men and commanded them to do this and that and they refused with a "Yuck, ewwww, that's gross, I'm not doing that!" Sigh...

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
27. Did they pay for sex pre-industrially?
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 05:59 AM
Aug 2014

I think development differences and how culture handles them are most likely to blame. Boys hit puberty, they enter this really hyper sexualized environment, while girls who hit puberty are shamed. Segregating women over periods has literally been the way human society has dealt with women for much of its existence. This is changing with a more sex-positive culture and women are being allowed to appreciate more sexualized media as time goes on. I don't know if that would be a positive trend or if it'd be better to adopt a more puritian type of sexual approach like in The Dispossessed.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
36. We make less money.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 07:40 AM
Aug 2014

And to all the men on this thread who said women can just whistle for it? Men reject women for sex all of the time-they probably call it something else. But ask any woman, pretty much all of us will have a story.

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