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Are reproductive rights a major issue for you in the 2014 elections? (Original Post) Kath1 Aug 2014 OP
They're ALWAYS important to me. In ANY elections. calimary Aug 2014 #1
Same here! Kath1 Aug 2014 #7
plus 1000 Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #48
I know they are for you, Kath! All the Democractic principles are important to Cha Aug 2014 #2
Smiley overload! Smiley overload! pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #6
Rofl! I guess I go by the principle that there's no Cha Aug 2014 #10
Hey, Cha! Kath1 Aug 2014 #8
It's so critical, Kath.. one of the main reasons why there is a Big Difference between Dems Cha Aug 2014 #12
Great graphic! calimary Aug 2014 #39
Yes pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #3
Not so much, because none of the candidates in my district in Oregon Maedhros Aug 2014 #4
I live in Massachusetts so I'm in much the same boat mythology Aug 2014 #38
they always are for me fizzgig Aug 2014 #5
Agreed! Kath1 Aug 2014 #11
Yes. Warren DeMontague Aug 2014 #9
One of my best friends in HS got called into the Principal's office... pinboy3niner Aug 2014 #13
It's all about this: littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #14
Excellent graphic! Kath1 Aug 2014 #25
They matter to me, but they won't impact my voting, because California. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #15
Similar to us here in MD, I guess. Kath1 Aug 2014 #26
DO NOT get complacent. calimary Aug 2014 #43
Yeah, but we have to stay vigilant ANYWAY. calimary Aug 2014 #42
Major Kick for a Major issue. defacto7 Aug 2014 #16
Major, major issue ReRe Aug 2014 #17
Yes, it is! Kath1 Aug 2014 #27
Well... ReRe Aug 2014 #34
A major issue to be sure, however Sherman A1 Aug 2014 #18
Yes and so are many other things Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #19
Yes, definitely! n/t bvf Aug 2014 #20
Welcome to DU, bvf! calimary Aug 2014 #44
Thanks! bvf Aug 2014 #56
ALWAYS. I will never cross that line, period Warpy Aug 2014 #21
Lemme just say...... AngryDem001 Aug 2014 #22
Love your attitude! Kath1 Aug 2014 #29
Damn right!! AngryDem001 Aug 2014 #55
Well, are the young white women in this country really with it? Will they wake up? DrBulldog Aug 2014 #23
I hope they do wake up for 2014! Kath1 Aug 2014 #33
Welcome to DU, DrBulldog! calimary Aug 2014 #46
Yes, very important. Not so much for myself, but for younger family members, Arkansas Granny Aug 2014 #24
Thank you. Kath1 Aug 2014 #37
That's how I feel - TBF Aug 2014 #57
Yes it is a deal breaker for me gwheezie Aug 2014 #28
I know, gwheezie. Kath1 Aug 2014 #31
Every election they are Important and one of the things I have noticed is those who are anti choice GiveEmEnoughRope Aug 2014 #30
Well-said. Kath1 Aug 2014 #32
Expand it beyond politicians too if someone IRL is anti choice they are a scum bag too GiveEmEnoughRope Aug 2014 #35
Indeed! Kath1 Aug 2014 #36
Welcome to DU, GiveEmEnoughRope! calimary Aug 2014 #47
Yes ... etherealtruth Aug 2014 #40
Yes. Blue_In_AK Aug 2014 #41
It's a deal breaker issue for me. If they're against free choice he/she gets a no sale. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2014 #45
Thanks, Tierra_y_Libertad. Kath1 Aug 2014 #59
It's always a major issue. As are several others. nt LWolf Aug 2014 #49
I live in Texas, so... ScreamingMeemie Aug 2014 #50
Major issue for me JEB Aug 2014 #51
absolutely drray23 Aug 2014 #52
I'm 65 and was lucky Faux pas Aug 2014 #53
Always an issue on any level, but also pipi_k Aug 2014 #54
OF COUUUUUURSE alp227 Aug 2014 #58

calimary

(81,220 posts)
1. They're ALWAYS important to me. In ANY elections.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:02 AM
Aug 2014

They're often the deal-breaker. You have to support a woman's right to choose for me to even consider voting for you. A woman's right to choose is an absolute. For me it's non-negotiable.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
2. I know they are for you, Kath! All the Democractic principles are important to
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:05 AM
Aug 2014

me.. that one included! GOTV2014!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
6. Smiley overload! Smiley overload!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:15 AM
Aug 2014

Careful, Cha. You're starting to remind me of the coffee lemur.






I love you!

Cha

(297,154 posts)
10. Rofl! I guess I go by the principle that there's no
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:28 AM
Aug 2014

such thing as too many smileys. But, I looked back at my post and I can see why someone else may think that.

I promise you.. no red bull in my coffee.. I just had 1/2 this morning..

Coffee Lemur! I needed a really good laugh right about now!

Mahalo pinboy

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
8. Hey, Cha!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:24 AM
Aug 2014

All of the Democractic principles resonate with me. But a woman's right to her own body? That is a no-brainer as far as I am concerned! And this is coming from a recovering Catholic!

Cha

(297,154 posts)
12. It's so critical, Kath.. one of the main reasons why there is a Big Difference between Dems
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:39 AM
Aug 2014

and repubs!.. You know how important this issue is from experiencing both sides now.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1102&pid=25140

calimary

(81,220 posts)
39. Great graphic!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 12:57 PM
Aug 2014

I'm keeping it. This is one situation where I would stand with PRESIDENT Obama and proudly, defiantly, shout - "NO YOU CAN'T!!!!!"

A woman's right to choose is an absolute. It is NON-Negotiable.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
3. Yes
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:09 AM
Aug 2014

But the GOPricks who oppose women's reproductive rights are wrong for us an a lot of other issues, too, so you don't even have to be a single-issue voter.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
4. Not so much, because none of the candidates in my district in Oregon
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:13 AM
Aug 2014

are threatening to roll back reproductive rights. Monica Wehby is playing the moderate card to try and win over conservative Democrats, and she's not looking too good in the polls right now.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
38. I live in Massachusetts so I'm in much the same boat
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 08:22 AM
Aug 2014

The last election everybody I voted for won, all Democrats, and all but one of the ballot measures passed.

Although at least one of our candidates for attorney general is making protecting women at abortion clinics a prominent theme in his campaign.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
5. they always are for me
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:14 AM
Aug 2014

colorado has yet another personhood amendment on the ballot, but they're taking a slightly different approach this year. rather than taking the life begins at the moment of fertilization/biological development approach, they want to change the definition of person in the criminal code to include "unborn human beings."

70 percent voted against the personhood amendments in '08 and '10 and it didn't even make the ballot in '12. it is unacceptable that not all women's reproductive rights are as respected as mine are here.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
13. One of my best friends in HS got called into the Principal's office...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:51 AM
Aug 2014

...because he put a 'Legalize Abortion' sticker on his briefcase (yes, Eric actually carried a briefcase to high school). As I recall, the sticker was bright orange.

I've been lucky that way. I've always had a lot of GOOD people as friends.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
15. They matter to me, but they won't impact my voting, because California.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:55 AM
Aug 2014

We've got wide and expanding access and effectively no conflict about the matter. Culture war issues in the rest of the country mostly sound hopelessly dated here, even in the farmy, boring, comparatively backward parts of the state.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
26. Similar to us here in MD, I guess.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:18 AM
Aug 2014

Even my sister, still a church-attending Catholic, would be quick to tell any priest or bishop NUNYA BIZ when it comes to contraception. I feel bad for women in states where access is denied or severely restricted. Roe v. Wade is the law of the land.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
43. DO NOT get complacent.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 01:06 PM
Aug 2014

MARYLAND WOMEN: DO NOT become complacent. DON'T be fooled into thinking you have the enemy beat. They're not going to give up, they're going to lie in wait, they're going to be vigilant and keep watching - for ANY in. ANY way in. ANY way to take your rights away from you. Think I'm kidding? Just let the GOP get a majority and then watch with your own eyes what they'll do FIRST.

YOU have to stay strong because you're up against an enemy that doesn't think you deserve the last word over what happens to, and inside, YOUR body. Hijacking one of their phrases - the "sanctity" of YOUR body. They lie in wait for the perfect moment to try to take that right and that freedom away from you. And they won't give up. So you can't afford to.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
42. Yeah, but we have to stay vigilant ANYWAY.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 01:02 PM
Aug 2014

Don't let this make you complacent!!!

Because at ANY moment the enemy can regroup and attack again. And they have money, power, and influence, plus a lot of devious thinking. They won't give up. They're going to keep coming back and trying again. And we have to meet them and stop them at EVERY turn, ALWAYS and FOREVER. They won't give up on this. So WE CAN'T AFFORD TO.

CALIFORNIA WOMEN! DON'T TAKE YOUR FREEDOMS FOR GRANTED!!!!! NOT EVER!!!! Even HERE.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
17. Major, major issue
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 04:03 AM
Aug 2014

... closing all those women's clinics all over the country recently and trying (and succeeding) to take birth control away from women is right now messing up a bunch of women's lives.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
27. Yes, it is!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:22 AM
Aug 2014

Can you imagine having to drive or fly across state lines just to have access t abortion? What about poor women who just can't afford to do so?

And the efforts to take away birth control just make my blood boil!

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
34. Well...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:50 AM
Aug 2014

... a few of the poor women who can't afford the travel expense or the procedure will get help from local orgs who have donors who give to help in these kinds of situations. BUT, many poor women don't know where to go and who to contact to get such support and what they lose is control over their life. Everything swirls out of control.

And those who can't afford BC will soon end up in this situation, as there is no shortage of men in the ready to impregnate them. Fat chance of women being strong enough to just say no to them. Biology sucks. And then, if women do just say no, you know what that leads to... rape.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
18. A major issue to be sure, however
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 04:05 AM
Aug 2014

it is one of several major issues. The first and foremost in my opinion is income inequality and decent jobs for everyone, that said I believe it all dovetails into electing progressive thinking and acting candidates.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
19. Yes and so are many other things
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 04:15 AM
Aug 2014

It's clear that I will vote for Democrats based on social issues such as reproductive rights.

Unfortunately, there are some issues that many powerful Democrats are no longer distinguishable from most Republicans, such as corporate power in our lives. These effect the foundations of democracy itself in a negative way. I am appalled at the administration's position in the last six years over issues such as NSA spying and "free" trade, and completely disgusted over the hands off approach to Bush-era war criminals and crooked Wall Street bankers. Those are matters that can destroy America much more quickly than arguments about abortion, and that is said in spite my having strong feelings about women's rights.

I will vote Democratic in November. I'll vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 over whatever Keystone Kop out of the clown car that gets the GOP nomination, but I will do so while holding my nose.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
44. Welcome to DU, bvf!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 01:14 PM
Aug 2014

Glad you're here! Good to see so many people lining up behind this.

We HAVE TO BE vigilant. We HAVE TO REMAIN vigilant. Because unfortunately, we're up against an enemy that will NOT stop. They'll stop at NOTHING to take that hard-won right of ours away from us. They are and will be relentless, and while I wish like anything that they'd just give up and go away and accept that Roe v Wade is SETTLED LAW, they don't. They're ALWAYS looking for ANY way to unravel it, pull it apart, dismantle it, defund it, diminish it, do away with it. I wish they'd give up. But they don't. Relentless they are. And we have to be as relentless as they are. For as long as they are.

You often hear about "matching" campaigns? Well THIS IS IT!!!

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
56. Thanks!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:51 PM
Aug 2014

I grew up believing that men shouldn't even have a say in matters involving these issues, in any capacity--legislative or otherwise.

As impractical and naive as that sounds, I still think that--even more so in the wake of so much under-the-radar activity by Republican-controlled statehouses in the last few years.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
21. ALWAYS. I will never cross that line, period
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 04:43 AM
Aug 2014

It would be the same as crossing the Abolitionist line in the 1850s or the Suffragette line in the 1910s, it's just not going to happen, ever.

It's why I don't care how exemplary a Republican might be (although they never are, my mother pronounced them "putrid&quot , there is absolutely no way I will vote for him or her, not since Reagan handed that party over to the misogynists in 1980.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
29. Love your attitude!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:39 AM
Aug 2014

Jesus Fucking Christ, just let women make their own decisions regarding their own bodies. If you're against contraceptives, don't use them. If you're against abortion, don't have one. Leave the rest of us alone!

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
23. Well, are the young white women in this country really with it? Will they wake up?
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 05:21 AM
Aug 2014

Because the #1 reason why the House turned Republican in 2010 is that the voter participation rate for YOUNG WHITE WOMEN fell by a whopping 20 percentage points from 2008 ... no other voting group came close to that figure.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
33. I hope they do wake up for 2014!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:48 AM
Aug 2014

I think they take their reproductive rights for granted... and they do so at great risk.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
46. Welcome to DU, DrBulldog!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 01:22 PM
Aug 2014

Good to have you with us! Good to see you weighing in on this thread! And it's good to see the point you make. We need to be reminded of that - ALWAYS AND FOREVER. We need to make sure we never forget. AND we older ones need to make sure the young ones know about this fragile right that we fought so hard to win, a few decades back. Fragile indeed. Ever since we won it, there have been forces amassing all around us to try to take that right away. They still exist and they're stronger and more relentless than ever. So we have to match them in that, and we DO INDEED have to help our younger sisters and daughters and nieces and granddaughters realize that this battle is THEIRS, too.

As Joni Mitchell once sang in "Big Yellow Taxi" - "don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got til it's gone"!

I don't want to live in some berserko "Christian Sharia" state. I remember that original battle and the original big win in the Supreme Court. When women were finally liberated completely - to have the last word and the ultimate jurisdiction over our own bodies. And it's amazing to me these days how endangered that right has become, how much it's been whittled away and unraveled already. How the political termites and moths out there have attacked it and rendered it full of holes.

WE HAVE TO FIGHT AND STAY STRONG.

And yeah, I'm tired of fighting. I'm tired of having to keep fighting. Especially when we once had this won, hands-down. I guess that's why this photo means so much to me and speaks so damn loudly to me:

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But "protest this shit" we MUST. We STILL HAVE TO. As long as the enemy lurks, we have no other choice.

Arkansas Granny

(31,514 posts)
24. Yes, very important. Not so much for myself, but for younger family members,
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 05:54 AM
Aug 2014

friends and women in general. I don't want to imagine a future where their reproductive choices are controlled by religious dogma and ignorance.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
37. Thank you.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 07:29 AM
Aug 2014

At 56, reproductive rights are not that important to me personally, but I do care very much about my daughter and, as you said, women in general. Religious dogma and ignorance are deadly. I know because I am a recovering Catholic!

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
28. Yes it is a deal breaker for me
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:38 AM
Aug 2014

I live in Virginia where women's rights have been under attack. It could happen in any state.

 

GiveEmEnoughRope

(19 posts)
30. Every election they are Important and one of the things I have noticed is those who are anti choice
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:40 AM
Aug 2014

are scum bags in all other aspects of their platform and life.

If they are anti choice they are also anti individual freedom too.

Choice is my #1 litmus test for a candidate and tells me everything I need to know about that person.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
32. Well-said.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:46 AM
Aug 2014

"Choice is my #1 litmus test for a candidate and tells me everything I need to know about that person."

I have found the same to be true!

 

GiveEmEnoughRope

(19 posts)
35. Expand it beyond politicians too if someone IRL is anti choice they are a scum bag too
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 06:54 AM
Aug 2014

However there is an exception many nuns, priests and a few others are 100% pro life meaning they are against the DP, WAR, killing of any kind including animals and insects. Those people are few and far between and many of those do not go out of their way to remove choice from others either. The 1% of the anti choice crowd so to speak.

In my experience 99% of the anti choicer's are also pro DP and pro war making them hypocrites whose real agenda is to control women and to use their religion like a club.





Kath1

(4,309 posts)
36. Indeed!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 07:09 AM
Aug 2014

Many years ago my mom (devout Catholic) coerced me into meeting her for Easter morning mass. This was long after I stopped attending church. I attended, all right, wearing my favorite, totally worn out bellbotton jeans, my most comfortable sandals and my favorite demin jacket with "Pro-Choice Voter" and "Pro-Family, Pro-Child, Pro-Choice" buttons on the lapel. I went to communion, too. She was really upset and pissed but I told her I don't check my brain or my freedom at the church door. I thought it was kind of a hoot. Let's just say she didn't pressure me to attend mass any more. Lover her dearly, but she is hopelessly brainwashed by religion, like too many women are.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
47. Welcome to DU, GiveEmEnoughRope!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 01:25 PM
Aug 2014

Great to have you join us! This is my pet cause, absolutely. This trumps everything else for me, and there are LOTS of issues I care deeply about. But if the candidate is anti-choice, then I can't go any further with them. I'm gone. I've heard enough. I've learned enough. Anti-choice is an absolute non-starter.

A woman's right to choose is AN ABSOLUTE. It is NON-Negotiable.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
51. Major issue for me
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 01:52 PM
Aug 2014

and I'm a gone to seed old dude. However, my Grandmother was an abortionist in the 1950's. Many local doctors referred their patients to her as they were afraid to perform the procedure even when the woman's life was in danger. She worked to create new laws, but spent most of her last days in prison.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
52. absolutely
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 01:57 PM
Aug 2014

However most of the time i do not have to face the dilemma of having to weight this against other issues sgen i vote. Most if not all democratic candidates are pro choice and also on the right side of other social issues.
This is why no matter who is the nominee in 2016 i will vote for them. The prospect of having a gop president able to nominate right wingers on the supreme court and reverse all the gains we made in the last 50 years scare me. So even if i would prefer warren to hilary i will vote foe her if she is the front runner.

Faux pas

(14,667 posts)
53. I'm 65 and was lucky
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 02:18 PM
Aug 2014

that Roe V Wade was passed during my child bearing years. Even though I don't need birth control any longer, I want my daughter and granddaughter (and every female born from now on) to have the choice, whatever that choice might be.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
54. Always an issue on any level, but also
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 02:27 PM
Aug 2014

on a more local level, I'll be looking at candidates who support the building of a casino in Springfield, which was voted on in that city, winning a majority of votes.

In the meantime, a group of anti-casino people have managed to have it become a statewide issue this November, whereby, essentially, people out in the eastern part of the state would have the chance to stop casinos throughout the state.

The problem is that Springfield has been a dying city for decades, and people keep voting down things they don't agree with (on a moral level) but can never seem to come up with a viable alternative for revitalization. And so people go without jobs, and the area is turning into a total shithouse. A sorry state of being for a city that was once a great place to live.

Anyway. Those are my two major issues.

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