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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:12 AM Aug 2014

Supporters of Darren Wilson says that Wilson is innocent until proven guilty...



So I have to ask this question, why isn't the same said of Michael Brown? Brown was not only judged guilty by Darren Wilson but Wilson even gave Brown the death penalty right there on the spot.

I have a very hard time with these supporters of Darren Wilson who think somehow Wilson is innocent even though he shot a man who was not really guilty of anything 6 times and killed the man.

Maybe in my world, perhaps yours too, we believe that everyone should be considered innocent until proven guilty and that everyone deserves a fair trial. But I know that I have a very difficult time considering anyone innocent when they toss those values aside and murder someone. The fact that these people support Darren Wilson and would treat him as 'innocent until proven guilty' yet not do the same thing for Michael Brown just sickens me. This is the heart of racism in the United States. If you are a white person killing a black person it's ok as long as you come up with some sort of flimsy excuse as to why it was done.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/23/darren-wilson-supporters_n_5703055.html

ST. LOUIS -- Wearing a Bushnell camo hat, Jeremy Arnold held up a black poster with a single blue line taped across it to show his support for Darren Wilson and other police officers.

As for the man he shot to death? Michael Brown, Arnold said, "got exactly what he deserved."

Arnold said he traveled from Fairview Heights, Illinois, for the Wilson event at Barney's Sports Pub here on Saturday. It was a public unveiling of sorts for the Support Darren Wilson Facebook page, which has garnered thousands of online followers and helped raise more than $200,000 for the Ferguson police officer. Not all of the dozens gathered at the pub shared sentiments as blunt as Arnold's. But they did seem united in the sense that Wilson, not Brown, is the real victim.

Wilson's supporters also agreed that the media is a perpetrator. Between chowing on free hot dogs and drinking beers -- with a DJ playing Journey's "Don't Stop Believing" adding to the party atmosphere -- few seemed to stop talking about the ways Wilson has been misrepresented and maligned.

"It takes two sides to every story, and I think he has gotten such a bad rap," said Sharon, one of the many people who only offered to give a first name or no name at all.


They are right - there are 2 sides to every story. Unfortunately Michael Brown is dead and can never share his side of the story.
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jwirr

(39,215 posts)
1. Absolutely - that is all anyone is asking for an indictment. A trial to find out if he is "quilty".
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:37 AM
Aug 2014

Michael Brown did not get that chance.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
5. True, let's hava trial & findim guilty, but even if in COURT he's not found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt still wouldn't mean he didn't in REALITY murder Mike.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 10:41 AM
Aug 2014

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
9. I hear you, but you have to consider that our so-called "justice" system is DESIGNED to let guilty people go free so that innocent people are not unfairly punished...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 12:17 PM
Aug 2014

The problem, if course, is that those with financial resources can game the system, while the less fortunate cannot. I would not call that "justice".

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. Neither would I but I am not sure how to stop that as it has been going on as long as I can
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 12:34 PM
Aug 2014

remember and probably long before that.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
2. If cops were held to the same standards civilians are...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:51 AM
Aug 2014

... these freakin' yahoos might have a point.

They aren't and the American public has had their fill of the bullying gangsters with badges.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
10. That would include me - so sick of their bullying tactics. Time for it to end; right here, right now!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 12:19 PM
Aug 2014

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
3. I can't understand how they don't get that.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:55 AM
Aug 2014

But, after reading many many comments on this story, I have come to the conclusion that many people think shoplifting is a horrible crime and if a person gets shot by the cops afterward, it is okay.
I imagine people who think that would not see that bush/cheney committed far worse crimes and many thousands of people were killed because of them.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
12. If this was the first time a white officer had dispatched a black suspect in a high profile case
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 12:46 PM
Aug 2014

I wouldn't be too critical of all these white people asking us to not rush to judgement about Wilson. But this dismay by the black community over the Brown shooting is about much more than just one incident. It's about an ongoing course of conduct by the police in hundreds of cases of brutality and injustice. The Rodney King tape was an outrageous police beating given to an unarmed, non-dangerous black man. You can look at that video one thousand times and any normal person will see no justification for it. Yet the police officers in the first trial got off completely before the jury that contained no black people. The good white citizens supporting Darren Wilson are either ignorant of the past behavior of police in this country and have no sensitivities for this chronic societal problem or intentionally choose to ignore it. That's racism either way.

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
13. I don't disagree.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 01:19 PM
Aug 2014

I would like nothing better than to see a 100% objective investigation of the Michael Brown shooting and let the chips fall where they may. Unfortunately, this is not what happens when a police officer kills a civilian, especially a black civilian. The investigations seem anything but objective and the chips seem always to fall in a pre-determined pattern.

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