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eridani

(51,907 posts)
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 08:46 PM Aug 2014

The tables are turning on Obamacare


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/22/1323813/-The-tables-are-turning-on-Obamacare

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That's why we're seeing Sen. Mark Pryor run an ad in Arkansas touting the bill's ban on denying coverage due to preexisting conditions, and that's why we're seeing Kentucky Democratic Senate nominee Alison Lundergan Grimes go after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell for wanting to toss repeal coverage for hundreds of thousands of Kentuckians.

It's been a long time coming, but now the election less than three months away, health care reform is no longer an issue for Democrats to neutralize—it's something are turning into an advantage. When Obamacare was nothing more than a bunch of pieces of paper, it served as an easy proxy for Republicans to accuse Democrats in red states of being rubber-stamps for President Obama, but now that it's delivering tangible benefits, the tables are turned. GOP attacks which once resonated can be countered with the reality of what the Affordable Care Act is delivering—and what it would mean if Republicans got what they wanted and took it all away. That's much more than Obamacare becoming less of a minus—that's Obamacare becoming an asset..
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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
1. I don't really care if O-care is popular or not anymore
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 08:58 PM
Aug 2014

I do see your point here, and you might be right, but Obamacare's popularity is not something that I spend time thinking about anymore.

This is heath care for people who need it, a matter of life and death for millions of people. If that's not "popular" among redstate fuckwits, then that's just too bad.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
2. ^^^This!^^^ times 1,000,000!
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:04 PM
Aug 2014

Right-wing Redstaters are sloooooooooooooow. In about twenty five years, they're gonna LOVE ObamaCare (which the wordsmiths on the AlwaysWrongRight return to referring to it as the ACA cuz it'll be successful!) and they're gonna defend it like the dickens!

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
4. It matters very much that it becomes popular because otherwise the next Rethug President
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:05 PM
Aug 2014

could try to repeal it.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
9. That won't happen.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 11:38 PM
Aug 2014

The ACA has been a windfall for the insurance companies. The insurance company donors let the R's have their votes to repeal because they know they are dead in the water. If 2016 brings an R into the White House we will see a complete stop on any and all votes to repeal. The "obamacare" issue will become silent and ignored.

Profit, the ACA has expanded it mightily. It's helped some, but that's just a byproduct of the real reason it passed.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
12. The ACA included a large expansion of Medicaid, which is at risk in any Rethug administration.
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 11:52 PM
Aug 2014

Don't kid yourself.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
10. The more that sign up
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 11:43 PM
Aug 2014

the cheaper the premium and more ailments will be covered.....

The young will pay now when not too much medical care is needed, but time will come that they collect what they put in and more....

Obamacare's increase in popularity matters when it comes to voting, but more importantly, the financial picture for it is enhancing as more folks sign up.


Cha

(296,861 posts)
3. After All the dragging through the mud the republicons did with O Care.. I'm really glad to
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:04 PM
Aug 2014

see this. It's important for people to know what's available to them and not let the boogyman scare it away.. looking at you, goppers.

And, beautiful if it helps with our Midterm Elections!

mahalo eridani

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
5. Pryor doesn't call it Obamacare in his commercial...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 09:24 PM
Aug 2014

He says "people shouldn't have to fight their insurance company when they're fighting for their life." They are attacking him for supporting Obamacare.

It's a good commercial and it looks like Pryor is going to win. You can't watch any TV at all around here without a Pryor commercial AND a Tom Cotton commercial coming on during the program.

I think it's a wise move for Pryor to defend himself against these attacks. He also has a commercial with seniors explaining how he has helped seniors with Medicare. I think he's running a good positive campaign, but man they're saturating the air waves.

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
7. I attended an alumni function yesterday ...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 10:32 PM
Aug 2014

and had a discussion with a woman from Orange County CA.,
a bastion of conservatism, so I had an idea of what might be coming.

She tells me that she hates Obamacare, because her health insurance
cost her around $500, for her and her husband, prior to O'care and
jumped to $900 after O'care was implemented.

So what is the whole story? I asked.

She tells that her original policy was cancelled and that her insurance
company offered her the $900 policy.

I then told her that her original policy was a crap policy and didn't meet
O'care minimum requirements, that's why it was cancelled. That her insurance
company to make it compliant added provisions that they felt cost an extra
$400. That cost increase has nothing to do with O'care, go complain to your
healthcare provider, or go on the exchange and get a better priced policy.

She asked, why should she have to do that?

I told her; You don't. Keep paying your $900 and stop complaining.

She was not happy.

LuvNewcastle

(16,835 posts)
13. I tell people the same thing.
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 05:18 AM
Aug 2014

People like the woman you speak of have been paying $500 a month for a policy that basically covered nothing, and they're mad because now they're getting a policy that will give them some coverage but it costs more. I also tell people to shop around. I mean, why continue with a company that's been fleecing them for years, sometimes decades? But people are stubborn and lazy, and when they have their minds made up about something, they don't like hearing contrary views. Hence, the popularity of Fox News.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
15. The political problem here for us is that most people will not get expensively sick
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 06:02 AM
Aug 2014

In every age demographic, 5% of the people account for 50% of all health care costs, and 15% for 85% of costs. The healthy 85% will mostly never have gotten the chance to find out how shitty their policies were. Their opinions about health insurance are pretty much like their opinions on how good their fire extinguishers are.

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