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(22,772 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)He's the best in the biz as far as I'm concerned.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)I don't watch TV so it must be someone I don't recognize or is that just a generic TV person?
Anyway great as always.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Seeing smirking Joe makes me think of Lori Klausutis.
The 28-year-old woman worked on his staff.
Her body was found July 20, 2001,
near her desk in his official congressional GOP Florida office.
Sorry, I can't find her picture.
Going by the lack of outrage at the guy's presence on the teevee
makes me believe most Americans don't know the story.
Here's a bit of background:
A Death in the Congressman s Office Joe Scarborough
Does Anybody in the Press Care About Lori Klausutis?
By Denis Wright and Chris George
August 8, 2001 (APJP)
Special Report
Once upon a time, the phrase "investigative reporter" actually meant something. It usually involved hard work, possibly even mentation. Now, it seems, they just make stuff up. Especially on the Fox News Channel, where an uninitiated viewer could easily think she/he had tuned in Comedy Central. It's "Chandra-Chandra-Chandra" with the occasional "Condit is just like Clinton" thrown in. Given our media's 24/7 obsession with the Gary Condit "scandal", you might assume that there is a real dearth of hard news to pursue.
In reality, there is indeed a news story percolating out there. The story bears remarkable and ironic similarities to the Condit/Levy story. Both involve Congressmen, rumors of infidelity, and the fate of a younger female subordinate. The details are so similar as to remind one of two alternate universes. The difference between the two stories? First, in the Klausutis case as not in the Levy case, there is a real body, very dead. Second, the Klausutis case involves a Republican.
The story had a brief flutter in the Northwest Florida press, which ran a few very short stories on Lori's death. With the exception of the Northwest Florida Daily News, they were of the "Aw-what-a-shame/ nothing-to-see-here-move-along-now-folks" variety. But nationally, this mysterious death earned a mere one paragraph mention in The Washington Post's NATION IN BRIEF column:
"FORT WALTON BEACH, FL. - Lori Klausutis, a 28-year-old office worker for Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-Fl), was found dead in the congressman's district office. Police said preliminary findings from the medical examiner's office showed no foul play or any outward indication of suicide."
Unbelievably, that was it. The story was simply dropped. A young female employee of one of Florida's Congressmen had died unexpectedly in the Congressman's office. There were no witnesses to her death and the cause of death was not apparent. Klausutis' boss, Joe Scarborough had recently resigned from Congress prematurely and unexpectedly, amid rumors about his marital fidelity and soon after a divorce. He had also abruptly resigned as publisher of the Independent Florida Sun, claiming that resigning from Congress and as publisher was necessary to spend more time with his sons.
Such circumstances make one pause. Sick to death of the clear bias of the corporate owned media, and suspicious of the odd nature of this death, we began to dig for answers. The more information we discovered, the more unlikely, and the more newsworthy the story became.
CONTINUED...
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html
The editors of American Politics Journal raise three important issues:
Three Pivotal Questions
by the Editors
September 1, 2001 (APJP) -- Over at The American Prospect's message board thread concerning this very article, Phoenix Woman has asked a trolling Scarborough "defender" three pivotal questions. We'd love to know the answers ourselves:
1) If Lori's death was just a simple accident, then why did Rep. Scarborough and his spokesman Miguel Serrano feel the need to go to two different local TV stations within three hours of her body's being found and invent a nonexistent history of chronic medical conditions for her -- in other words, why did they feel the need to lie about Lori's health?
2) Would you trust without question the word of a Medical Examiner who lost his ME license in two separate states (Missouri and Florida) because he LIED about his autopsy work (for instance, saying he had autopsied some brains when he hadn't)?
3) Why should whoever wrote Ms. Klausutis's obituary feel it was appropriate to mention nearly everything about her life -- EXCEPT where she'd been working since 1999?
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html
If he was a Democrat, it's a good bet ABCNNBCBSFauxNoiseNutwork would immediately be screaming for his appointment with the electric chair.
In this affair, apart from quitting Congress and his newspaper, Joe Scarborough hasn't even had his hair-do mussed.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)I have to wonder how much Joe paid Lori's parents to hush up what REALLY happened.
I'll never forget Lori, or stop wondering exactly WHAT happened to her. I doubt that we'll ever know the truth.
Scum bucket joe makes me sick on multiple levels.
tosh
(4,422 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and I see it on DU far more often than I should, imo...
ReRe
(10,597 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)that racial profiling is a REAL thing??
Even today, there's still some "This incident had nothing to do with race" trolling...
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... but that's ok. I'm on down the road. Have a good one.
tblue37
(64,980 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)tblue37
(64,980 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)... and I agree with you. I still don't get it.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)But, it seems totally incongruous on this, a purportedly Democratic (and somewhat liberal?) website. I'm sickened by the hate and bigotry spewed about the MURDER of Mike Brown. I'm seeing it all over the inner tubes, including here. Thus far, the worst offenders here are getting their well-deserved pizza.
tblue37
(64,980 posts)ambiguous, so some readers can't tell you mean panel #4 in the carton.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)freaky training are these guys getting?
Maybe time to have an investigation into police training schools and have a gander at the curriculum, because we folks have that right too.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)referring to peaceful protestors and journalists as "animals"
blackspade
(10,056 posts)Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you dont want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Dont argue with me, dont call me names, dont tell me that I cant stop you, dont say Im a racist pig, dont threaten that youll sue me and take away my badge. Dont scream at me that you pay my salary, and dont even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)blanket "do as you are told and watch your mouth or else" is not a helpful attitude and is not proper policing.
Of course folks should cooperate to the police, but they should not bow, and many professions are subject to verbal scorn, none of them happen to be armed in public.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)This.
"Many professions are subject to verbal scorn, none of them happen to be armed in public."
This too.
Mopar151
(9,965 posts)This how you avoid being shot, beaten, Tased, cavity searched, Maced, or hassled. Especially if there are no witnesses around, and/or there is "backup" present.
tblue37
(64,980 posts)He now teaches those studying to be cops.
His op ed says exactly what that panel says--that when people get hurt by cops, it is because they don't obey and cooperate. He admits that the cop might well be violating your rights, but says cooperate anyway and file a complaint afterward (as though those ever do any good!).
He explicitly claims that whether a person gets hurt by a cop is controlled by that person's decision to obey/cooperate or not, regardless of whether the cop is abusive or even brutal.
On Edit: blackspade postd the link in post #18.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)is charged or accused after the violation of their rights is what is being protected, not just when the same innocent until proven guilty law abiding citizen IS charged or accused.
What happens before you are charged or arrested is the only thing that matters, not what comes after the violation of protected rights.
Cops do not get it either.
The Magistrate
(95,237 posts)A thing of beauty, Ma'am.
JEB
(4,748 posts)I am so stealing that line.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)That would apply to Righties® on any number of issues.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Way to go, kpete!
kpete
(71,900 posts)way to go
TOM TOMORROW!!!
http://www.dailykos.com/blog/tom%20tomorrowpeace,
kp
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)The Wizard
(12,482 posts)everyone shot by police is resisting and going for the cop's gun. They're trained to say "stop resisting" and "stop going for my gun." as this justifies anything that follows. Has anyone ever been arrested and not charged with resisting? We are at the point of obeying any command, no matter how illegal, or risk a beating or worse.
tblue37
(64,980 posts)that even as he fully cooperated and put his hands behind his back to be cuffed, the cop kept saying to stop resisting--and even when he said, "I'm not resisting," the cop kept saying, "Stop resisting."