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If folks are determined to talk about Rand Paul as a progressive let's at least keep it factual.
Here is his actual voting record: http://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/117285/rand-paul#.U_tm_mPTf_k
July 31, 2014 HR 5021 Highway and Transportation Funding Act of 2014 Senate
(81 - 13) Nay
July 30, 2014 S 2569 Bring Jobs Home Act Cloture Not Invoked - Senate
(54 - 42) Nay
July 16, 2014 S 2578 Protect Women's Health From Corporate Interference Act of 2014 Cloture Not Invoked - Senate
(56 - 43) Nay
July 9, 2014 PN 1736 Nomination of Julian Castro to be Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Nomination Confirmed - Senate
(71 - 26) Nay
It goes on and on ....
BaggersRDumb
(186 posts)He has a slave owner mentality about the AA community.
Sure he wants to make things better for them, in the way a slave owner would if he thought it was time to reward them.
Republican business owners think like this with ALL employees, it is sick and it makes me sick.
You typed ron you meant rand
TBF
(32,047 posts)and yes it does baffle the mind that some are cheerleading for him right on DU
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)and say some stuff they like on cable TV and be sure to pound his fists and express requisite levels of rage. That seems enough for some. What the impact of GOP polices are on the rest of us don't matter. In fact, if life is made worse for women, people of color, and LGBT, that is probably a plus. Make no mistake about it: right-wingers support a right-winger.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)...but thanks for posting this.
Fuck Rand Paul.
wandy
(3,539 posts)Thanks for posting.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)and the fact that he would is just one more good reason not to allow corporate Dems to shove Hillary down our throats.
No matter how disastrous his policies would be, he can be counted upon to RUN as an antiwar, anti-surveillance state, anti-drug war platform candidate.
None of us should have to face an election in which the Republican is the antiwar, anti-spying, anti-drug war candidate, and the Democrat is on the other side.
Hell, we shouldn't have to settle for that kind of candidate no matter who is on the other side.
leftstreet
(36,106 posts)And if the Democrats let the opposition own that, they're...I don't know what
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Will leave progressives on DU all misty ... But the American Electorate and/or the Democratic base most unexcited.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)By Dana Liebelson - Oct. 10, 2013
1. Social Security payments will be delayed, possibly cut. According to President Obama, in the event of a default the US government will have no choice but to delay Social Security checks. The government owes $12 billion in Social Security payments on October 23 and an additional $25 billion on November 1. At some point between October 22 and November 1, the BPC predicts that the US government will have exhausted its borrowing power and will either have to start severely delaying its bills or sort through the millions of different payments it makes each monthon everything from national parks to the FBIto figure out which ones to stop paying. That's when Social Security could see sustained cuts.
2. Federal employees will be screwed
even more. Furloughed federal employees haven't been paid since the government shutdown began on October 1. Congress is unlikely to end the shutdown without raising the debt limit, meaning furloughed staffers would be unlikely to receive paychecks anytime soon.
3. Pay and benefits for military service members and veterans will be delayed, possibly cut. The US government owes $12 billion in pay to active and retired military service members on November 1. Those payments will be delayed if the government runs out of money before then, and potentially cut, depending on which bills the US decides to pay.
4. Medicare and Medicaid checks will be delayed, possibly cut. The US government owes $2 billion in Medicaid payments on October 30 and $18 billion in Medicare payments on November 1. Same deal: If the government runs out of cash before then, payments will be delayed, or put on the chopping block with everything else.
Kept within 4 paragraphs to match DU rules. Much more at the link, showing it will be impossible to recover from default, yet the GOP thinks this is a great idea. They want a civil war, and this is how they want to get one, but many won't survive this. It is a manufactured crisis, there is not country in the world that wants this.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/10/16-ways-not-raising-debt-ceiling-will-screw-americans
With thanks to Mira who posted the Mother Jones link in GD. You can go to enter that discussion, I added more information:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023834604
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110218177
Debt Ceiling: 'Chaotic' choices on 100 million payments
By Jeanne Sahadi - January 7, 2013
If Congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling soon, the Treasury Department will be forced to make drastic, no-win decisions on how to honor tens of millions of legally owed payments every month...
Prioritizing interest payments means Treasury must choose from more than 100 million monthly payments and would not be able to pay 40% of the dollars owed...
Much more at link:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/07/news/economy/debt-ceiling/index.html
Those expecting veteran benefits will lose those in November through shutdown or with default:
5 million will lose veterans' benefits next month if shutdown stretches to November
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=616482
Rand Paul says default can be 'framed as a reasonable idea' and Tom Coburn wants to default to face a 'managed catastrophe.'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3820816
Why the people of the USA aren't in the offices of these gangsters protesting right now, proves the power of media.
They will blame Obama, the poor, the disabled, the elderly and any 'Others,' instead of the GOP.
We should never forget on a liberal, progressive website whose mission is to see more Democrats elected to office:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice
We can see the F.U.D. for what it is. Rand Paul has voted for repealing the ACA that benefits people in his state, still pushes Right to Work laws, personhood attachments to bills, voted against the VAWA, is for privatizing police, fire departments, schools, social services or eliminating them along with Social Security, Medicaid, food stamps, is anti-environment... the list goes on.
His alleged virtues about warfare are con jobs when you see the warfare by inequality and racism he supports daily. He says what's happening in Ferguson isn't racial. But then, he doesn't see a lot of people as worthwhile human beings who should have a say in governing ourselves.
He's too wet to step on and too low to kick. ~ JustAnotherGen
riqster
(13,986 posts)Paulbots of both sorts seem either unaware or unconcerned about the actual records of their heroes.
TBF
(32,047 posts)I'm really clueless as to why Progressives would be tempted to even look in this direction. Elizabeth or Bernie are much better choices. Even Hillary is a much better choice and I'd put her as the most conservative of the 3 despite Bernie's current independent title.
riqster
(13,986 posts)I'd dearly love to see Bernie run as a Dem, if I had my druthers.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)S Amdt 711 - Prohibits the Sale of Assault Weapons - Key Vote
National Key Votes
Rand Paul voted Nay (Amendment Vote) on this Amendment.
S Amdt 714 - Limits Firearm Magazine Capacity - Key Vote
National Key Votes
Rand Paul voted Nay (Amendment Vote) on this Amendment.
S Amdt 1197 - Requires the Completion of the Fence Along the United States-Mexico Border - Key Vote
National Key Votes
Rand Paul voted Yea (Amendment Vote) on this Amendment.
Repeals the Limit on the Use of Funds to Procure Alternative Fuel Amendment Adopted - Senate
(62 - 37) Nay
Repeals the Prohibition on Biofuel Refinery Construction Amendment Adopted - Senate
(54 - 41) Nay
jeff47
(26,549 posts)then Romney and McCain would have never won the Republican nominations. They both had very long histories that were waaaaaay too far out of the current conservative mainstream.
Instead, they claimed to really be super-conservative. And since Fox said it was true, Republicans voted for them.
As a result, it's really not that inconceivable for Paul to walk down the same path for his party's nomination.
Where this potentially gets interesting is if the Democratic nominee doesn't look like they would be a "bastion of liberalism". If both candidates are talking about cutting taxes and "reforming" entitlements, then it's going to be difficult to argue that the Democrat is actually going to protect liberal policies - after all, it was Bill Clinton that destroyed welfare.
So you're left with "gonna fuck over liberalism, but is anti-war/anti-surveillance." and "gonna fuck over liberalism and is pro-war/pro-surveillance".
This, btw, is one of the two main reasons why the "inevitability" strategy is fucking moronic. First, you're demanding no one remember that the inevitable candidate already lost.
Second, it leaves no good opportunity for the inevitable candidate to campaign for the Democratic nomination. Instead it's straight to the general and trying to pull in liberal Republicans. Resulting in no campaigning towards liberal Democrats, who absolutely must turn out and vote in order for the Democrat to win.