Make no mistake--- The Ron and Rand Paul trolls are the best on the internet.

[trumad]

The onslaught is soon to come and may already be happening.

[Wounded Bear]

1. Yeah, they're in pre-season mode now...

They'll continue to ramp up the hype.

[FSogol]

2. K & R. n/t

[zappaman]

3. Oh, it's happening.

Looks like they got their marching orders this weekend.

[PeaceNikki]

4. i call the ones posing as Democrats 'aPaulogists"

It's aPaulling

[KittyWampus]

12. -golf clap-

highly amusing puns.

I may have to steal them. I will try to credit you.

[freshwest]

13. Good one, thanks. Lately written as 'I know DU doesn't like Rand, but...' posts.

And the Democrats are wrong and Libertarians are right posts when they never go after Repukes. I even saw 'people don't care about inequality' and a blanket statement of how the 'free market' resolves poverty with the list of errors from not following the rules of the sacred market in terms of equality.

We know what their version of 'liberty' and 'freedom' is, and it must set their hair on fire when they read us disrespect their 'sacred' words. I've suggested those posing as Democrats, attempting to set Dems against their candidate continuously, to embrace where their heart lies. They should push their party proudly instead of pulling the concern game. Of course, it's Rand's party.

[PeaceNikki]

14. yeah, it happens every election cycle here.

I have several posts in my journal railing against (Ron) Paul when people here grossly misrepresent his positions. It gets especially hot and heavy he when DK aligns with a Paul.

[TBF]

5. There were a few over the weekend -

I expect that to increase.

[cyberswede]

44. Yeah - I saw that someone gave you shit for saying "Fuck R Paul"

[TBF]

45. I stand by my FRP - as I'm sure EarlG stands by his.

[Gothmog]

53. I agree with your analysis

I missed this post but concur with your opinion

Rand Paul and his daddy are hated by the GOP. I think that it is funny that the paul supporters think that he will get the GOP nomination. The GOP donor class control this process and that class hate rand paul and his daddy

[TBF]

56. Agree- they are lunatics if they think the old guard will

accept Rand and/or Ron Paul. I still think they want Jeb Bush. He will do what they expect - cut taxes even more on the truly wealthy. That is all they care about at the end of the day.

[alsame]

6. Quite an infestation lately. nt

[leftstreet]

7. How can you tell which ones are trolls?

the ones pretending he's a viable candidate

or

the ones pretending he's a viable candidate

[Lochloosa]

19. My guess it would be the ones pretending he's a viable candidate

[joshcryer]

62. Yep, this, completely.

But I can't be sure they're trolls or if they're just idiotic enough to believe it. The same arguments were used about Ron Paul in 2012.

[wyldwolf]

29. the ones denying they're Paul fans or denying that there are Paul fans here.

[leftstreet]

31. Links to members here doing that?

I admit I may have missed them

[Autumn]

50. As soon as you get one please let me know. I keep asking but no response yet.

I feel like I'm on a snipe hunt.

[G_j]

51. so if they say they ARE a Paul fan, they aren't a troll?

that is some very strange reasoning. Kind sounds like an ancient witch trial or something.

[Union Scribe]

58. Are you a Paul fan?

You can either admit it or deny it which only proves you are, by your own reasoning.

[wyldwolf]

63. I'm not arguing in favor of his idealogy of worldview.

See how putting a point in it's proper context makes replies like yours comical?

[Union Scribe]

67. So what you're saying is, you're a Paul fan.

Keep denying it. That just makes it more obvious that you love him.

[wyldwolf]

68. So what you're saying is...

You're a Paul fan and trying to project that particular Scarlet letter on other people.

[Thinkingabout]

52. That's an easy on, do a DU search and read tbe names.

[SidDithers]

8. DU rec...nt

Sid

[alterfurz]

48. ^Libety or Tranny?

= Rand Paul 2016 bumpersticker grand prize winner

The tyranny of the ignoramuses is insurmountable and assured for all time. -- Albert Einstein

[MohRokTah]

9. I've seen them in forums and comment sections all over the internet. eom

[Octafish]

10. Dude!

The best can show you just how much of a Democratic Undergrounder they are.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

11. The best at being obvious trolls?

I have yet to meet a subtle Paulite.

[conservaphobe]

15. They give themselves away by questioning the existence of Paulite trolls.

"I haven't seen any. Care to provide proof?"

[Fuddnik]

21. Sorta like if a witch floats, she's guilty. If she drowns, she's innocent.

Uh-Huh.

[conservaphobe]

24. I forgot to mention their persecution complex. nt

[LanternWaste]

32. You may want to recheck both "sorta" and "like" in the dictionary..

You may want to recheck both "sorta" and "like" in the dictionary... I don't think your grasp of either's meaning is close to being accurate.

[Cha]

64. Haha!

[ErikJ]

16. Use Pauls against other RWers.

Libertarians like the Pauls want completely open borders and want to get our military out of the mideast. And Liberts are pro-choice but the Pauls know they have to act like theyre anti-choice to get votes.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

17. ... lol ...

... and may already be happening.

It is the ones that already are firmly entrenched here that are the best.

The onslaught of newcomers are amateurs.

[trumad]

22. yep...

The old brigade crawls out of their holes when Rand or Ron crawl out of theirs.

[Iliyah]

18. K & R

[NCTraveler]

20. Amazing how they have all got their marching orders.

Same attack, same time. One was dim enough to call Rand progressive on foreign policy. They are a special group of little people. Truly cute if they weren't so harmful.

[Omaha Steve]

23. About these trolls

Are they in part III of The Hobbit this December?

[trumad]

26. Yep--- they are currently meeting to plot the takeover.

[ReRe]

40. Picture of them...

[underpants]

25. BENGHAZI!! became the joke meme replacing RON PAUL!!

Sorry Ron you time ran out. Oh Rand isn't going to get the nomination either.

[1StrongBlackMan]

27. Well ...

they should be: they've had nearly 15 years of practice.

[BrainDrain]

28. Agreed....

They are some of the best around. Just call'em out every time..they'll turn to stone..just like every other troll in the world.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. You can make ANY Right Winger freak out with three simple words....

"It's only money".

[tammywammy]

33. The trolls just want better dems running.

At least when someone refers to either Paul as progressive they're outing themselves as a moron.

[Iggo]

34. They're just gettin' warmed up.

(Yikes!)

[zeemike]

35. Oh boy, another witch hunt...I'm excited already.

Better get out the witch hunters guide so we can tell them by the signs.
I hear that Paul put a mark on them and if you stick them with a hot poker in that mark they will holler out...

[ReRe]

41. .

[secondwind]

36. Libertarians are Republicans in sheep's clothing... that is ALL they are

[JI7]

37. the one on here is very obvious though and for some reason they are allowed

to stay

[Vattel]

38. Paul is great on war, NSA spying, and executive overreach.

He is way better than Obama or Clinton on those issues.

[wyldwolf]

39. but not for the reasons you'd respect (at least I hope not)

Quoting stevenleser:

He and most Libertarians are not 'anti-war' because they think war is wrong. They are anti-war because of one or more of three reasons.

1. Because of their belief in a small, weak central government, they don't want to pay taxes to fund them. (So the NSA would go, along with public education, the FDA and every other government program you hold near and dear. )

2. Out of a desire to see a small/weak central government, they adhere to a strict view of the Constitution that says that the President cannot act militarily at all without a congressional declaration of war.

3. They don't believe we should care about what happens to people in other countries and are isolationist from that viewpoint.

Now, it's possible that this is satisfactory or doesn't matter to some Progressives, or they would argue that the ends justify the means no matter how you get there. But it is yet another example of how Libertarianism and Progressivism have incompatibilities.

The way their beliefs translate into military and foreign policy in general becomes problematic. For instance:

Libertarians would not argue for the rights of women or LGBT in other countries. Libertarians dont think that is our business. For a lot of us on the left, that is problematic. I suppose if you are a straight white man and are lacking in empathy for those of color or women or LGBT that might be OK for you, but then are you really a progressive?

and OilemFirchen:

He believes in external defense by proxy. Why maintain a bloated military when Soldiers of Fortune can get the job done on the cheap?

Save the decimated military to fight the negores, the wetbacks, the liberals and the joos. It's not really all that difficult to understand where he's coming from.

[Vattel]

46. I don't agree with some of the Libertarian reasons for opposition to war.

I agree with Paul that the Constitution does not grant the President the power to put the nation into a state of war. But I also think (and I don't know if Paul agrees) that if another nation attacks us, then we are at war and the President, as CIC, can repel the attack without any authorization from Congress.

I am not against all humanitarian wars because I do care about the well-being and rights of others.

[Mnpaul]

47. I remember many here cheering when Ron called out Bush

on Iraq. He even called Reagan a paper tiger in that speech.

[Cali_Democrat]

61. In other words...

....issues that mostly interest privileged white people.

[Vattel]

66. Yeah because underprivileged black people never die in wars. (sarcasm)

[ReRe]

42. K&R

I met up with them earlier today. Here's how you recognize them: the gibberish.

It's all divide and conquer at this point. "Here's some red meat."

I advise we turn up our noses at the mad-cow diseased crap. It's tainted bait.

[pintobean]

43. Remember when Ron Paul supporters

were spraying vinegar at the sky? Yeah, that was...
something...

[arcane1]

57. Oh yes, I do indeed!

[XRubicon]

49. KnR

[99Forever]

54. Whatever.

:tinfoil:

[99Forever]

55. Whatever.

[The Traveler]

59. No doubt ... and yet

The smart troll knows to strike where you are weak. These trolls know where we are weak. A certain prominent Democrat has recently spoken very unwisely. It is easy to sow division when a legitimate divide has been thus created.

So we have to keep our focus. If we are activists, we need to focus on winning on the ground in 2014. As a Georgian, and a Democrat, I am trying support Michelle Nunn and Jason Carter to the best of my ability. Focus on your local candidates and party structure. Get out the damn vote. 2016 will sort itself out in due time.

Just my take.

Trav

[joshcryer]

60. 2012 was the peak.

If Rand Paul runs we can come to expect even worse. Amazing how racist bigot homophobes anti-civil rights dudes can be looked to by the left on a few small issues that, in fact, they don't agree with the bigots on.

[trumad]

65. kick

Smart people unlocked this thread.

Thank you

[BainsBane]

69. No they aren't

They are completely transparent. Just because they aren't PPR'd doesn't' mean they are good at what they do. The fact is there are a lot of right-wingers who pose as Democrats. Some even believe they are leftist. But when they take one right-wing position after another, it should come as no surprise they support a right-wing candidate for President. That is the nature of their world view.

To speak favorably of Paul is to advance a white male supremacist view of politics that privileges big business and treats the poor with contempt. People speak favorably of Baby Doc because they share his views. They are not people worth anyone's attention. There is no reason to treat them with anything other than the same level of contempt they demonstrate toward the majority of Americans.