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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 09:34 PM Aug 2014

Russia claims Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 crash investigation stalled

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/russia-claims-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh17-crash-investigation-stalled/story-fnizu68q-1227036669088

RUSSIA has complained of a failure to release details of the investigation into the Malaysian jet that was shot down over the Ukraine in July, accusing international investigators of lack of transparency.

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov queried on Monday why the recordings from the plane’s black boxes had not been released publicly and said he had the impression that “everyone else has lost interest in the investigation.”

Dutch investigators leading the probe said early this month that they would release an initial report “in a few weeks.”

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“No one has told us anything coherent about the reasons why the recordings of the black boxes cannot be released fully,” Mr Lavrov said at a televised briefing in Moscow.

He also queried why Ukraine had not yet provided recordings of conversations between air traffic controllers in the nearby airport of Dnepropetrovsk.

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Russia claims Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 crash investigation stalled (Original Post) Karmadillo Aug 2014 OP
The reason it is falling off of the MSM pages padfun Aug 2014 #1
Very very uncomfortable indeed Laughing Mirror Aug 2014 #6
Good questions Bragi Aug 2014 #2
The silence that has replaced the howls of outrage Karmadillo Aug 2014 #5
On the contrary malaise Aug 2014 #7
Lavrov is ratcheting up the pressure before tomorrow's big amandabeech Aug 2014 #3
Lemme guess -- Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2014 #4
It's funny to see Russia pull out the "stalling" card Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #8
+1 n/t FSogol Aug 2014 #9
This shit won't end with a report sharp_stick Aug 2014 #10
Really? You left the debunking aspects out of your post. Karmadillo Aug 2014 #11

padfun

(1,786 posts)
1. The reason it is falling off of the MSM pages
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 10:03 PM
Aug 2014

is because the truth doesn't fit American and British agenda's. The truth would be very uncomfortable to the western diplomats who tried to create their own versions.

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
6. Very very uncomfortable indeed
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 07:09 AM
Aug 2014

If all the US and Britain have are those tweets and YouTube videos even Jen Psaki and Marie Harf looked uncomfortable trying to sell us as proof, then that means they've got nada, nothing. When you have nothing, better to to just sweep this one under the rug under the category state secrets or something.

Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
5. The silence that has replaced the howls of outrage
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 06:44 AM
Aug 2014

suggests that answers may be a long time in coming.

malaise

(268,949 posts)
7. On the contrary
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:06 AM
Aug 2014

The more silence, the more the West knows that the report is highly unfavorable to them.

That aircraft was brought down by the Ukrainian RW lunatics backed by the West. Truth will out.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
3. Lavrov is ratcheting up the pressure before tomorrow's big
Mon Aug 25, 2014, 10:24 PM
Aug 2014

meeting on settling the war in Ukraine.

Merkel, Putin, Poroshenko, the PM of Belarus (the host) plus a cast of hundreds are supposedly sitting down calmly in Minsk to get a cease fire.

You won't hear anything more about this once everyone's gone home.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. It's funny to see Russia pull out the "stalling" card
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 11:36 AM
Aug 2014

When Russia-controlled troops blocked any investigative access to the crash site for 72+ hours and tampered with/looted the wreckage...


Seriously -- I keep debunking your bullshit from dubious sources, and you just keep posting it...We'll see who is right when the report comes out...

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
10. This shit won't end with a report
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 12:40 PM
Aug 2014

but hopefully it can be removed to creative speculation where it belongs.

Like all good conspiracy theories the goal posts will move whenever they need them to. The report will be "manufactured" and the truth hidden in some bunker in Kiev or Amsterdam.

Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
11. Really? You left the debunking aspects out of your post.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 02:09 PM
Aug 2014

Last edited Tue Aug 26, 2014, 04:40 PM - Edit history (1)

The Russians have released satellite and other data they claim suggest the Ukrainians are responsible. The US, while vociferously attempting to blame the separatists and the Russians, seems to have misplaced its relevants satellite data. The Ukraine seems to have misplaced communication recordings of what transpired between air controllers and the pilots of MH 17. The Dutch have said their investigation isn't intended to determine who actually is responsible. We do have some tweets and YouTube video, though, so maybe that's your debunking material?

I don't have a clue what happened. I do know that when parties talk big and then decide not to release evidence and when respected journalists raise significant questions about that big talk, one should be a little skeptical about initial reports. And maybe we'll know who's right when the report comes out, but it will depend on the report, won't it?

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