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Nine year old accidentally shoots her instructor (Original Post) Jeneral2885 Aug 2014 OP
The Tree of Liberty™ GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #1
As a Marine, I fired I think every automatic weapon used by the US Recursion Aug 2014 #2
I learned on a .22 as well. That poor kid. alphafemale Aug 2014 #4
they clearly didnt want her Jeneral2885 Aug 2014 #14
I remember that it was a big deal stepping exboyfil Aug 2014 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Jeneral2885 Aug 2014 #7
It was not an age appropriate weapon. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #19
The only person I feel bad for is the little girl Itchinjim Aug 2014 #3
I don't presume Jeneral2885 Aug 2014 #22
It's as if tragic stories like the one linked below never happened deutsey Aug 2014 #6
That is just idiotic Duckhunter935 Aug 2014 #8
Uzis and children don't belong together! In_The_Wind Aug 2014 #9
What's ironic is he appears ileus Aug 2014 #10
Yeah, that would solve everything. /nt Bragi Aug 2014 #23
Stories of age-appropriate gun experience are very helpful to those of us-- eridani Aug 2014 #11
poor girl AngryAmish Aug 2014 #12
Saw the video cwydro Aug 2014 #13
So are you saying Jeneral2885 Aug 2014 #17
Bad choice of Uzi model. ManiacJoe Aug 2014 #15
face palm Jeneral2885 Aug 2014 #16
The small size is what got the instructor killed. ManiacJoe Aug 2014 #21
Oh Well.. butterfly77 Aug 2014 #18
expected response from the NRA Jeneral2885 Aug 2014 #20

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. As a Marine, I fired I think every automatic weapon used by the US
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 05:45 AM
Aug 2014

Submachineguns still scare the hell out of me, for exactly this reason. They have no place in a gun range. They are not accurate, and there is no competitive use of them that I know.

The simple fact is, there is no "accident" that involves a 9 year old shooting an Uzi: there is only deliberate negligence.

I learned to shoot at about that age. And I learned on an age-appropriate weapon: a rimfire .22 rirfle.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
4. I learned on a .22 as well. That poor kid.
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 06:03 AM
Aug 2014

I'm sure most people still have common sense around guns and know how to educate kids to respect and handle them.

Then you have nut cases like this.

And that little girl is going to relive the horror of that moment for the rest of her life. Because her parents are gun cult assholes.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
5. I remember that it was a big deal stepping
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 06:27 AM
Aug 2014

up from a pellet gun to my single shot 22 rifle about that age. It was special. What nut gives a 9 year old a Uzi. I fired a full auto M16 when I was 17 (after 12 years of firing guns) and the sucker walked on me. Have never fired one since.

Response to Recursion (Reply #2)

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
19. It was not an age appropriate weapon.
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 06:50 AM
Aug 2014

There are competitive machine gun shoots but full auto weapons are usually at ranges for rental purposes.

The range instructor should have had his gloved hand on the barrel at all times if he was going to allow that small child to shoot that.

I too learned at that age to shoot on single shot 22lr rifles (not pistols) and moved up to 10/22s.

It's a damn shame for the girl and the instructors family that the range instructor was not supervising properly or using his judgment to not allow it to happen at all.

Itchinjim

(3,085 posts)
3. The only person I feel bad for is the little girl
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 06:02 AM
Aug 2014

She's going to have to deal with this the rest of her life. What kind of idiots let a nine year old handle a gun like this? I hope her probably teabagger parents are proud of themselves.

Jeneral2885

(1,354 posts)
22. I don't presume
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 05:59 PM
Aug 2014

they are teabaggers. Are you jumping the gun to say there are no pro-gun democrats at all?

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
6. It's as if tragic stories like the one linked below never happened
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 06:33 AM
Aug 2014
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/27399337/ns/us_news-life/t/boy-accidentally-kills-self-gun-show/

WESTFIELD, Mass. — An 8-year-old boy died after accidentally shooting himself in the head while firing an Uzi submachine gun under adult supervision at a gun fair.

The boy lost control of the weapon while firing it Sunday at the Machine Gun Shoot and Firearms Expo at the Westfield Sportsman’s Club, police Lt. Lawrence Vallierpratte said.

Police said the boy, Christopher Bizilj of Ashford, Conn., was with a certified instructor and called the death a “self-inflicted accidental shooting.”
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
8. That is just idiotic
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 06:59 AM
Aug 2014

for the parents to allow that girl to fire that full auto Uzi. I learned about that age but it was with a rifle with single rounds and a 410 shotgun. They should have put no more than three rounds in that weapon at the most if they were that insistent on her firing that weapon.

I feel sorry for that girl.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
10. What's ironic is he appears
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 07:14 AM
Aug 2014

to be trying to avoid a repeat of the incident where a kid that shot himself in the head in the same way several years ago.


She would have been better off starting on a long gun instead of that short barreled pos. Little 9's have recoil...


eridani

(51,907 posts)
11. Stories of age-appropriate gun experience are very helpful to those of us--
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 07:17 AM
Aug 2014

--without that experience. Uzis!?!? WTF?!?!?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
13. Saw the video
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 08:11 AM
Aug 2014

Last edited Wed Aug 27, 2014, 09:08 AM - Edit history (1)

She was so obviously nervous and unsure with the weapon - she should never have been firing it.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
15. Bad choice of Uzi model.
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 04:55 PM
Aug 2014

The mini Uzi is very small and hard to hold on to.

Had the girl used a full-size Uzi, she would have been fine. The fault lies with the instructor.

Jeneral2885

(1,354 posts)
16. face palm
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 06:41 AM
Aug 2014

what does it have to do with the size of the weapon? In the first place, why even a Uzi and not a small pistol? Or even worse, why not teach her to drive first rather than to shoot to kill?

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
21. The small size is what got the instructor killed.
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:32 PM
Aug 2014

The mini uzi is small, hard to hold on to, and hard to control the recoil of.

The full-size uzi is large and heavier, easy to hold onto, and easier to control the recoil of.

A pistol would have been a excellent choice as a first gun to use. A .22 rifle would have been even better.

All that said, firing a full-auto weapon can be a lot of fun when you can do it safely.

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