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Night after night, Fox News doubles down on hate. Whether George Zimmerman, Bundy or Ferguson, it just gets worsePAUL ROSENBERG
The continuing right-wing effort to make a hero out of Michael Browns killer, Darren Wilson, may not turn out so well, if the past is any guide. Remember Cliven Bundy? Donald Sterling? George Zimmerman?
Just because liberals dont like someone doesnt mean he should automatically be a hero to conservatives. There was a point when even the National Review seemed to recognize this editor Rich Lowry once wrote a column titled Al Sharpton Is Right, about the need for charges to be filed against George Zimmerman, when Florida officials were dragging their heels.
But that time is long gone, apparently. And as a result, the right seems well on its way to aligning with the reemergence of a 21st century form of lynching, even while furiously insisting that they are totally post-racial. Cliven Bundy and Donald Sterling the more readily and thoroughly renounced didnt kill anyone, of course. But Zimmerman and Wilson both did, and both, to varying degrees, acted under color of law, which is precisely how plain old-fashioned lynching used to work, in a shadow realm that would not have allowed the killing of whites (except, of course, for race traitors who allied with blacks).
It didnt take long for people to start rallying to Darren Wilsons defense. In less than a week, several hundred thousand dollars had been raised on his behalf with a healthy smattering of hateful racist messages in support, such as I would have donated double this amount, but you missed his accomplice and Fox News had run a flood of false, unsourced stories, claiming that Wilsons eye socket had been broken, implicitly proving that he had been in a heroic struggle for his life.
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http://www.salon.com/2014/08/28/fox_news_is_tearing_us_apart_race_baiting_and_divisiveness_hits_disgusting_new_low/
valerief
(53,235 posts)srican69
(1,426 posts)I seem them more as a symptom of the society rather than the original source of hatred and division.
Agree?
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)onenote
(42,680 posts)Fox News gets fewer than 2 million viewers a day. And the vast majority of those viewers already think the way Fox does. They are pandering to their audience. They are a symptom of a problem, not the problem itself.
valerief
(53,235 posts)the other way around.
onenote
(42,680 posts)Are you saying that there is no difference between Fox News and all other "mainstream" media and TV? If that's the case, then why is Fox singled out?
Fox IS different from other media and TV outlets. But its influence is greatly exagerrated (something that Fox no doubt relishes). It's audience is small and consists of folks who only watch Fox because it tells them what they already believe. Fox is a classic case of preaching to the choir.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Fox is fanning the flames of racism. Their audience is vulnerable to lies. That much is obvious.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)they report them with minimal use of objective facts and they lean almost exclusively on opinions that confirm existing biases to report existing news.
A story that re-injures old wounds and riles the anger is perfect for providing the comfort that comes with confirming biases.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Nope.
Human nature is not to think like that. They can show a puppy getting deliberately run over and turn it into a "driver as victim" story.
Think about something for a second.
Right Wingers are greedy bastards who don't spend money unless they absolutely HAVE to and yet they spend a huge amount on propaganda because they HAVE to.
Back during the height of Limbaugh's popularity it was hilarious to see something happen on a Friday evening. The country was filled with Dittoheads staring at their shoes until Monday. Only THEN, after hearing his official response did they have an opinion.
Same goes for FOX "News".
Frankly, I would not be at all surprised to see it end upon the death of Rupert Murdock. It is an embarrassment to the entire FOX brand that brought us the likes of Shirley Temple. I can picture the board of directors saying it's over.
Right Wing hate infotainment was a Clinton Era/late 20th Century fad that now has a dying 70+ demographic.
Yavin4
(35,431 posts)When there was a limited number of communication platforms (TV, radio, newspapers), you could build an empire around right wing hate, but now that mass communication has huge number of platforms, it's hard to dominate it with only a few voices.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)It's like when computers first took off. There was an assumption that it was a Yuppie thing so the advertisers were all geared toward young professionals with lots of disposable income. Turns out the vast majority of computer users were lower income types looking at hard core prawn.
The assumption with Limbaugh was that his audience was a bunch of yuppies climbing the corporate ladder. Turns out the vast majority of Dittoheads were either rednecks in trucker's caps who don't own a truck but live in trailer parks or guys stuck in a combine going back and forth for hours on end in an endless field of wheat while the wife was watching Oprah.
All through a vast majority of this nation in the late 90s the choice was in the farm belt was Limbaugh, Classical Music, Country and Western or a fire and brimstone preacher.
And Limbaugh USED to try to be funny.
brush
(53,759 posts)and you don't get that FOX creates divisiveness as part of the right 1% overall strategy keep the peons divided and at each others throats much easier to control that way, and more lucrative as well.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Without fox news would there be so much hate and division?
Sure the people that listen to fox are a "special" group, but I don't think they would be so full of hate if they did not listen to fox day in and day out.
My mother in law was a life long republican, she would never vote for democrats, but never really hated anyone. Then came fox news and Rush, she changed. Her son got her started listening to Rush and the to fox news. She went from a mellow older lady into some kind of radical right winger. She got worse after a stroke, and became paranoid about the "liberals" destroying the country. Without fox and Rush I doubt that would have happened.
My father, also a republican, was the same way, he would disagree with things we would discuss, but we never really go into arguments. Then he got satellite tv, started listening to fox, and he changed, not for the better. Instead of agreeing to disagree, he would spew the fox news lies, and when I would suggest he find "other sources" he would get upset because to him fox news was the only source of "honest" news. I have tried to convince him to stop watching so much fox news, and he has for short times, but it seems like he always goes back.
I know others who changed considerably after starting to watch fox news. So from what I have seen watching fox makes things worse for people, not better. I bet that a lot of those who watch fox would not be so angry and full of hate if they had never started watching it in the first place.
It's kind of like some religions that preach a constant agenda of "we are the only ones with the truth" and you can't trust anyone else. Good people fall for this crap, and they change. It's the same with fox, a steady diet of likes hate and more lies, and soon people believe what they here and refuse to get the "facts".
So I do blame fox because I have seen the change in those who started watching it on a regular basis.
srican69
(1,426 posts)fortunately or unfortunately .. most of my close friends and family are hard core liberals and the republicans ( baring a few) are closeted. (I live in NJ)
So I dont have first hand experience.
narnian60
(3,510 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)divide and conquer (or rule)
phrase of divide
1.
the policy of maintaining control over one's subordinates or subjects by encouraging dissent between them.
valerief
(53,235 posts)TBF
(32,035 posts)when something works that well you keep doing it.
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)...worked so well to derail Reconstruction after the Civil War. Works equally well to squelch any movement toward fixing our awful income maldistribution problem. I actually heard someone say that the financial crisis was caused by the government buying lavish homes for people in New Orleans after Katrina.
PoutrageFatigue
(416 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Precisely.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 28, 2014, 03:19 PM - Edit history (1)
serves the exact same purpose.
Two Minutes Hate to rally us into our teams and foment hatred for each other, so we will never unite against what is being done to us.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Laxman
(2,419 posts)the chicken or the egg? The twisted racist Neanderthals or the vile toxic nourishment fed to them by Fox? There is a deep well of hatred and resentment in this country right now mixed with a healthy helping of ignorance. Like mushrooms and manure in a dark moist place-the vitriol is just waiting to sprout at every opportunity. As much as I prefer to concentrate on the good around us, its becoming increasingly difficult to avoid what can only be described as a diseased abscess on the soul of our country. It has to be exhausting to maintain such hatred but the "brave" patriots who find a threat lurking around every corner seem to have an unending supply.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Thanks for sharing this, DonViejo.
VanGoghRocks
(621 posts)brush
(53,759 posts)VanGoghRocks
(621 posts)as cherry pie."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Rap_Brown
brush
(53,759 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)If and when we decide to take the country back, Fox "News" and all 1200 hate radio stations will be ground zero.
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Initech
(100,057 posts)Every single media outlet called Florida for Gore. One didn't. Can you guess which one?
WillyT
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)Give up already.
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AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Since this country was first being put together.
Catherine Vincent
(34,486 posts)I remember a while ago my mother and I were in a waiting room at the hospital and the area we were in someone had it on some silly reality show. They ended up leaving and this one older woman couldn't wait to change it to fox news. Why not the discovery channel, local channels etc? No...she went to her go to channel as if she don't watch that shit enough.
Cha
(297,048 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)Including the admins here:
Thus, the allegation is that simply talking about race in America makes you a racist. It is, as Boehlert called it, a very odd brand of projection thats very weird and complicated, but thats where the roles of endless repetition and cognitive closure come in. They naturalize and normalize what would otherwise clearly be both arbitrary and bizarre.
Which ties in really nicely with Creekdog's poll about how to deal with racist comments. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025451602