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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 10:07 AM Aug 2014

“Would you criminalize fornication?” Desperate new argument against same-sex marriage laughed out of

“Would you criminalize fornication?” Desperate new argument against same-sex marriage laughed out of court

Straight people get drunk and pregnant! Gay people don't, so they don't need marriage! That was the real argument

GABRIEL ARANA


One of the most fascinating things about the same-sex marriage battle has been the evolution of the arguments against gay unions. Not long ago, gays and lesbians were not only considered unsuitable parents; they were an active danger to children, child molesters and abusers. Kids raised by same-sex couples were said to fare worse than those raised by heterosexual couples.

No such arguments were made in Chicago on Tuesday, where lawyers for Wisconsin and Indiana did their best to defend their states’ bans on same-sex marriage before a three-judge panel of the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals. Their line of attack against gay marriage was quite the opposite: Gay parents are too responsible to need marriage.

That’s right — lawyers for Indiana and Wisconsin claimed that because a “fleeting moment of passion” can produce offspring, straight people need marriage as an incentive to stay together and raise their “unintended children.” Gay people, on the other hand, have to think and plan a lot harder if they want to be parents, so marriage doesn’t concern them. In other words, because an ill-considered, alcohol-fueled romp between two straight people can lead to a baby, gays shouldn’t be able to marry.

Judge Richard Posner, a Reagan appointee, could only respond with sarcasm. “Would you criminalize fornication?” he said. “It sounds like a way of dealing with this unintended child problem.”

The absurdity of Indiana and Wisconsin’s justifications for banning gay unions — which are really something if you listen to the audio — highlights the central problem for opponents of same-sex marriage: As traditional justifications for anti-gay discrimination have lost legal ground, defending gay-marriage bans increasingly requires logical acrobatics.

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http://www.salon.com/2014/08/28/would_you_criminalize_fornication_desperate_new_argument_against_same_sex_marriage_laughed_out_of_court/
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“Would you criminalize fornication?” Desperate new argument against same-sex marriage laughed out of (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2014 OP
That is argument is just LuvNewcastle Aug 2014 #1
How are they licensed to practice? phil89 Aug 2014 #2
As a heterosexual male, Wisconsin and Indiana sound like paradise! TlalocW Aug 2014 #3

TlalocW

(15,380 posts)
3. As a heterosexual male, Wisconsin and Indiana sound like paradise!
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 10:58 AM
Aug 2014

I have a vasectomy and don't drink so that means
1) No unintended pregnancies
2) I can be more discerning with which drunk woman to pick up for sex

Plus, what with all the homosexuals gaying up the place with their flaming responsibility, I can probably find one that can help me do my taxes when he or she has a moment from meticulously making adoption plans.

TlalocW

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