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Reminder: Saudi Arabia has beheaded 23 people so far in August. (Original Post) ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 OP
Given our recent history of botched executions jeff47 Aug 2014 #1
I'm against the death penalty in all cases. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 #4
I bet the US is #1 by far if you count the folks the police Jappleseed Aug 2014 #7
And you would be wrong. nt. NCTraveler Aug 2014 #17
Not likely. Jappleseed Aug 2014 #18
Estimates of executions in China are from 4000 and up. Angleae Aug 2014 #24
Yikes that is a lot Jappleseed Aug 2014 #25
I would prefer to be beheaded by an expert swordsman Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #5
+1000. It would be the pot calling the kettle black. nt raccoon Aug 2014 #19
Barbaric. JNelson6563 Aug 2014 #2
Read this thread for background on Saudi style Islam flamingdem Aug 2014 #3
Reading it now. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 #8
Inconvenient truths and all that LittleBlue Aug 2014 #6
Saudi Arabia is also a Tier 3 country in terms of human trafficking. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 #9
If I owned Saudi Arabia and hell, I'd rent out Saudi Arabia and live in hell. nt Zorra Aug 2014 #10
Agreed 100% hifiguy Aug 2014 #11
Good times, good times ... GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #12
Bomb Saudi Arabia FIRST Dems to Win Aug 2014 #13
Your logic is hard to argue with hifiguy Aug 2014 #14
Good logic, but it will never happen, I know Dems to Win Aug 2014 #21
The Saudis are destroying their own Arabic heritage aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #15
Da USA has murdered 26 of its citizens so far this year Exposethefrauds Aug 2014 #16
While I don't support the death penalty leftynyc Aug 2014 #20
You generally have to be black, poor, and convicted of murder, Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #22
Also true leftynyc Aug 2014 #23
So your beef is they are beheading becasue of religious reasons in a religious court Exposethefrauds Aug 2014 #26
Stop putting words in my mouth leftynyc Aug 2014 #27

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
1. Given our recent history of botched executions
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 01:34 PM
Aug 2014

I'm not sure we can criticize beheadings. At least it doesn't take the victim 2 hours to die.

 

Jappleseed

(93 posts)
7. I bet the US is #1 by far if you count the folks the police
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 01:40 PM
Aug 2014

execute before going to trial or getting charged.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
5. I would prefer to be beheaded by an expert swordsman
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 01:38 PM
Aug 2014

than writhe in pain on a gurney for a couple of hours, then have them attempt to revive me (so that I could be executed again) and then suffer a heart attack and die anyway.

Sadly, the US is really not in much of a position to lecture other countries about this issue. I really wish we could abolish the medieval relic that is the death penalty.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
9. Saudi Arabia is also a Tier 3 country in terms of human trafficking.
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 01:47 PM
Aug 2014

Slavery (sexual and non sexual) are rampant there and the government does little to stop it.


http://m.state.gov/md105389.htm

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
13. Bomb Saudi Arabia FIRST
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 02:16 PM
Aug 2014

If we are going to fight radical fundamentalist Islam, then fight it at its source: Bomb Saudi Arabia First.

ISIS is a Saudi creation; Saudi Arabia is ISIS's inspiration.

Saudi Arabia has financed jihad worldwide, funded the madrassas that teach young boys to be killers for Islam, unleashed terrorism upon the world.

Bomb Riyadh, the source of ISIS funding. The source of salafism (fundamentalist Islam) and the money spreading this cancer all over the world.

The Saudi culture is the same cruel, barbaric culture that ISIS imposes.

If the US must go back to war in the mideast, at least bomb the correct people this time. It's utterly pointless to bomb the creations of the Saudis, while leaving the Saudis in place with their oil billions and toxic ideology to create the next Sunni terrorist force.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
14. Your logic is hard to argue with
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 02:21 PM
Aug 2014

The Saudis are inevitably the source of money and "inspiration" of all the Sunni lunatic movements. Wahhabism is pure poison.

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
21. Good logic, but it will never happen, I know
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 03:03 PM
Aug 2014

I write it anyway, though. Just like to put it out there.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
15. The Saudis are destroying their own Arabic heritage
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 02:28 PM
Aug 2014

The hardline Wahabis cannot tolerate any semblance of idolatry and so 95% of Mecca's 1,000 year-old buildings, shrines, and monuments have been leveled. ISIS has done the same thing with shrines in Iraq like the Prophet Sheth Shrine in Mosul..

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/the-destruction-of-mecca-saudi-hardliners-are-wiping-out-their-own-heritage-304029.html

 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
16. Da USA has murdered 26 of its citizens so far this year
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 02:29 PM
Aug 2014

Having been to SA and Texas I would say they are pretty much the same both places are run by religious extremists, are hot and both places love to kill its citizens in what they call justice they just use different methods that have the same result. Both places i never felt safe unless I was carrying a weapon 24/7 too.

I would not advise travel to either place.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
20. While I don't support the death penalty
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 02:52 PM
Aug 2014

I don't think that comparison holds up unless people are being executed for sorcery and blasphemy here (those are religious "crimes&quot . As far as I know, you have to convicted of murder to get the death penalty in the US.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
22. You generally have to be black, poor, and convicted of murder,
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 03:41 PM
Aug 2014

preferably the murder of a white person.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. Also true
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 04:07 PM
Aug 2014

But my point was we don't execute for religious reasons (obviously I mean we don't anymore - the Salem Witch trials come to mind).

 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
26. So your beef is they are beheading becasue of religious reasons in a religious court
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 06:24 AM
Aug 2014

SA is a Theocracy

Would it make you feel better if people were beheaded for non religious crimes?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
27. Stop putting words in my mouth
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 07:28 AM
Aug 2014

It's juvenile and annoying. I'm against the death penalty PERIOD. Those that use beheadings are barely human no matter what the crime is. The person I was posting to was trying to compare the death penalties in the US to those in SA - I merely pointed out that you have to kill someone before you can get the death penalty here (I think there may be some exceptions made for drug kingpins but I'm not sure of that). In SA you can get it for having a bible. Get the difference?

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