Zimmerman cried alot his first nite in jail.

[jillan]

Boohoo - too fucking bad!

http://abcnews.go.com/US/zimmerman-wept-jail-court-appearance-murder-charges-trayvon/story?id=16123136#.T4eRiqvgHdI

Zimmerman spent his first night in prison in protective custody, where he could be watched at all times. Law enforcement sources told ABC News, the 28 year old "wept quite a bit" at night.

O'Mara suggested that Zimmerman may apologize to Martin's family.


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Should I believe this? Or is this just his attorney trying to soften up his image? That is the real question I have.

[Lex]

1. But not as much as Trayvon's parents have.

nt

[MADem]

2. Trayvon isn't doing any crying--but his family is, I'll wager. nt

[elleng]

3. Believe it, he's human,

young, and alone.

[Lex]

7. Young and alone.

And not being chased by anyone with a gun. At least.

[RZM]

4. I've heard from people who have done time

That nights are pretty rough. Most depictions of prison and jail show life there during the day. We forget that people spend hours alone in the dark in their cells with their thoughts every night. It can get pretty depressing, I imagine.

I think that crying at night in jail is probably pretty common, especially when you combine remorse and self-pity regarding what got them there.

[calimary]

12. Well, it's certainly no place where swaggering around the neighborhood

packin' heat can make you feel pretty damn cocky and invincible. I would think spending the night alone in jail, realizing you're facing Murder-Two, after you may have felt certain some reckless latter-day Wyatt Earp vigilante law would protect you and keep you from spending the night like this. The harshest of harsh reality has probably come crashing down on him. Going from feeling invulnerable with the law behind you - to this? Has to be a jolt like no other, imaginable.

[my2sense]

20. +1

Reality is setting in.

[flamingdem]

44. They're not totally alone

there are rats I understand, at least in some jails.

[Dan]

45. an hour

takes 60 minutes,

a minute takes 60 seconds,

and at times, each second can seem like an eternity...

sometimes, you can watch the clock,

turn your back, and then about ten minutes later, check the time,

and only seconds would have passed...

there is no easy time,

time slows down...

[PearliePoo2]

5. I was watching his face at the hearing...

and it looked to me that he was very close to tears.
It's over for him. Everything. Fuck him.

[Ship of Fools]

46. I watched, too.

He was sleep deprived, as at times his eyes kept rolling back into his head
when he blinked...

[calimary]

6. I don't know. I do find O'Mara somewhat sympathetic. He isn't acting like

some sort of swaggering arrogant in-yer-face type like one of the other lawyers - the white-haired one in the recent news conference in which the two of them said they'd lost contact with George Zimmerman.

O'Mara seems like a human being. He's been very respectful - especially toward Trayvon's family.

[Bucky]

52. Sympathetic? I don't know. He's a professional & is not demagoguing.

He's trying to tamp down the passions because the public zeal is running entirely against his client. His Fox-friendly grandstanding predecessor as Zimmerman's legal counsel did nothing but ratchet up the calls for punishment. He seems to be pursuing his client's rational best interests. But that's just good strategy. The escalation of public passions is cutting against his client. Dispassionate justice is in everybody's interest here. But "sympathetic"? No, he's still out to make sure his client is as underpunished as possible. That's our system. I respect him, but I just couldn't force any sympathy out toward him...

[MrSlayer]

8. I'm sure most people do.

Unless you're used to being in the system, going to jail is quite traumatic. No one with any sense wants to be there.

[jwirr]

72. Especially when one thinks about doing this for a life time. As to the special cameras watching him

I think most jails have various cameras on all the time.

[libodem]

9. Crying for himself

He has no remorse. He has lied his ass off trying to get away with murder. Crybaby wanker.

[sadbear]

11. I don't know what he's said so far...

Most of what we know of his side came from proxies and surrogates. His ex-lawyers said he tried to reach out to the prosecutor's office. Sounds to me like he's getting a lot of advice from others and hasn't been allowed to say anything for himself. (Of course, I've also heard he's plans to plead not guilty to murder 2.)

[Snake Alchemist]

10. Tells us nothing except that he is scared and human. nt

[snappyturtle]

13. I wonder why law enforcement is reporting to ABC about Zimmerman's behavior? nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Because they were asked

they have a PIO that went sure, I will talk to media.

We live in a country where high profile cases have this happen regularly. This is a high profile case.

[snappyturtle]

65. I'm not sure what a PIO is but they weren't so talkative

in the immediate aftermath of the crime. High profie? IMHO the
commission of this crime was high profile from the get go. Thanks
for your explanation.

[nadinbrzezinski]

68. Public information officer, that's what they do.

This is not Sanford PD, but sherriffs, different jurisdiction.

The hint were the green shirts, and different patch, instead of blue.

I got some of the equivalents in my contact list these days. You'd be surprised what media asks them about.

[snappyturtle]

75. Thanks! I had no idea! nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Ever been in jail? Me neither,

but from what I hear from people who have, it is not a nice place. In fact, it is a very scary place.

He is a young man, who is rightfully scared.

And before you say it, I have not bought anything his previous lawyers and family have said, including broken nose.

This, I believe.

[HangOnKids]

18. He Is A Giant Arse But I Believe He Is Frightened

From the pictures I have seen of him he doesn't look quite right. His eyes are too close together, I'm thinking fetal alcohol syndrome. That would explain much of his rage and abnormal behaviors. And NO I am not apologizing for him this is just my opinion. Something is wrong with George.

[snagglepuss]

24. I'm not justifying his actions but I too think there is something not right with him.

A number of years ago I remember seeing a documentary about an arsonist. The authorities were actually able to film the suspect as he plotted his next crime. It was really bizarre. The guy was completely caught up in his own private fantasy world, chuckling and talking to himself. GZ reminds me of him though GZ doesn't seem as crazy but he definitely seems like someone caught up in a fantasy world.

[HangOnKids]

30. There Was An Arsonist Here In CA A Few Years Back That Was A Fire Captain

Trained to put out fires etc and yet ended up as an arsonist. The brain is a complex organ and when it is not wired right bad things happen. George is not wired right.

[janx]

27. Yes, something is wrong with George--

but I'm not convinced it's genetic or induced by any alcohol his mother drank during pregnancy.

There is always something wrong with people who get themselves into these situations, and I don't know if he's guilty of murder. It certainly looks that way, but the evidence has not been presented yet. It does seem, however, that he pursued and threatened a person that he should not have, that he wanted to be in a position of authority in his community, and that he packed heat wherever he went. Concealed carry is legal in Florida; I have no problem with that, but you are right: There is something wrong with George.

[Th1onein]

41. In Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, the eyes are usually spaced far apart.

He looks absolutely normal to me. But, in his place, I would be afraid, too.

[zappaman]

38. As an ex-cop, can you tell us if prisoners crying is unusual or not?

Surely, you've seen the inside of a jail, being an ex-cop and what not...

[libodem]

16. One of my best friends lost her 17 y/o son in a car wreck

3 kids died instanly and the 4th family had to pull the plug, a week later. I got there as fast as I could but it was devastating to that family. I remember hearing my friend sob in her room at night after we had all gone to bed. It leaves a hole in your heart to lose a kid. Nothing is worse. No grief can be greater. This didn't have to happen. It changes the parents forever with a burden of loss to carry. I hope they find peace from this suffering when justice is served.

[riverbendviewgal]

23. There has never been a day that I have not thought of

my younger son...who died at 26 years old from a brain tumor. The hole is still there. I have stopped the daily crying as it is getting near 13 years he died...His dad died 18 months later. They both had cancer, diagnosed 2 months apart. I loved my husband very much and we were together 33 years until he died but the loss of my son is a much bigger hole in my heart. Trayvon Martin's family has that hole now..

I am sure Zimmerman's mother is crying too...She too has lost a son. If justice is done he may be going away for a very long time.

It is all so very, very sad.

[jillan]

39. Sending you hugs....

I almost lost my daughter, but she recovered.... I can't imagine.

[Th1onein]

42. I lost my son, too.

It has been almost 14 years now, and I still cry almost every day. It is a pain that you never, NEVER, get over. It is the worst thing that can happen to a human being, and only a parent who has lost a child can understand that pain.

I am so sorry for Trayvon's parents. If Zimmerman spends the rest of his life in prison, it will not come close to the pain for his parents that Trayvon's parents will experience, for the rest of their lives.

[easttexaslefty]

60. You are so right.

[malaise]

58. You are so right

[libodem]

63. My heart goes out to you

I also know of two other families that lost a child. Parents are forever altered with this horrible pain. One loss, was my supervisor's 17 y/o daughter. This girl was on the school dance team, and has been on another school's team before that. The funeral filled the church clear out the front doors to the parking lot. This girl also bagged groceries at an Albertsons and kept a high GPA.

My supervisor was a zombie. Her office became a shrine. She spent time in the cemetery decorating the trees with wind chimes so her girl would have music. It took such a toll she ended up divorced. It took over her life. We all propped her up at work. She finally was fired. Her best friend spent way too much time comforting her, to the neglect of her own two kids. I heard later this woman's own teen aged daughter was found hanging in the back yard. I think she was 12.

[Cali_Democrat]

17. awww booo hooo hoooo

Don't gun down unarmed kids carrying candy, asshole.

[teddy51]

19. I would kind of hope that this whole thing might be a lesson to those that do take the law

into there own hands, but somehow I think we are going to see this occur again.

[Selatius]

21. You think he's scared now? Wait until the Bloods or Crips get their hands on him in prison.

He'll be a dead man if the prison guards don't watch him carefully.

[grasswire]

22. I didn't see any swagger in him today.

He looked overwhelmed, as he should. He's in a peck of trouble.

And he's being kept isolated, in protective custody. In a cement cell with little human contact and no dad for protection. Reality.

[anti-alec]

25. I served 88 days in prison for probation violation

In Texarkana, TX.

Not pretty, and chronically smelly because of a nearby paper mill.

It was a federal prison - and yes, they describe it accurately - "country club settings" - not exactly.

While it may look like a country club on the outside, but inside, it's barracks style housing. Wakeup is at 6am (and chow time too) Mailroom open for 30 minutes at 6:30 if you want to get your package out, and quicker (in theory) mail. Then you gotta go to work for a couple of pennies an hour. My job was to wash the classroom windows, and usually takes me an hour. The supervisor was a real b*tch (and she cheated me out of many hours I worked for her).

Lunch is at 12, work until 4, then count, then dinner at 6(ish), then meds, then 9pm count, then bed at 10 - or you can watch TV until 12 (2am on weekends and holidays).

Chow is pretty bad. Southern style - definetely not for a Coloradan like myself. Very little privacy (if any) anywhere - except for the toilets and the showers. My barrack had a communal shower, and one private shower. I am usually the last to take the private shower out of respect for my former inmates.

As for sports, there is organized sports - baseball, soccer, and basketball. I'm surprised football wasn't taken seriously as football in Texas is like being in a church.

Did I see any fights? No, I didn't see any fights, but I have had three different kinds of lockdowns - all for different reasons. 1 was a weather-related lockdown (heavy fog - not enough staff to handle us inmates) 2) was an emergency lockdown due to a fight (lockdown was only 2 hours long) and 3) medical lockdown (partial) - I saw one guy leave in IV's and in a gurney - I think he was being sent to the hospital nearby - the infirmary is pretty shitty.

Did I cry during my stay? No. I showed no emotion - was called many things, but I mostly ignored them. I played a few cards with my fellow bunkmates, gambled in sports betting (seems to be the hottest thing) - and finally - my "cash"? - stamps. Cigarettes were banned under federal law, but I do see contrabands - cigarettes seems to be the common contraband, but they sneak in tobacco, and use toilet paper cover (not the toilet paper itself) as papers for the tobacco. Hell, I have seen one young man get a prison ink tattoo on his left rear leg of a dreamweaver. (The bunkmates are actually father/son inmates - very nice and they are full-blooded Native Americans)

When I left Texarkana on Xmas day, it was like freedom has come back to me. I got $50 plus whatever is left of my commissionary account (at that time $11), and just went to New York from Texarkana via Houston. When I lied down on my BIL's former bed, it was the softest thing I felt after nearly 3 months of hard and pathetic beds. Sleep was barely there.

To this day, I cherish my freedom from prison, and I am off ALL supervison, probation and otherwise.

Why did I get into prison? Drugs.

[janx]

33. I'm sorry to hear that you were in prison.

The schedule doesn't sound too bad, but the lack of freedom and privacy sounds like a nightmare.

[woolldog]

69. That was a riveting post. Thank you. nt

[EmeraldCityGrl]

26. Oh really, where was the apology before this became

a media event and GZ was a free man after murdering their son?

An apology at this point is totally inappropriate. Save it for the sentencing.
We can see where this attorney is going with this case. No doubt they will
construct an apology portraying GZ as a victim. Peirs Morgan gave his brother
an opportunity last night to apologize and he completely changed the subject.

[database]

28. people. brace yourselves for an acquittal.

[Boabab]

49. Not going to happen

Georgie is going to do some time.

[a la izquierda]

50. I have learned not to be so certain of our justice system...

I thought Casey Anthony was going to prison.
Wrong.

[obamanut2012]

57. I knew she wasn't as soon as she was charged with DP Murder

Because it wasn't a Capital case. Corey charged smartly.

[SaltyBro]

29. oh poor baby!

he'll have plenty of time to cry when he's locked up for life.

[ecstatic]

31. Can anyone else recall a situation in which an accused murderer

received so much empathy/sympathy?

[emilyg]

36. O.J.

[jwirr]

74. No, but I have never seen the victims family act in a more calm and caring way as this family did.

They have set the tone for this case and it is a wonder to behold.

[Lint Head]

32. I bet Trayvon's Mother cries every night.

[janx]

34. She will cry for the rest of her life. n/t

[Amaya]

35. good

[left on green only]

37. So you like crossword puzzle books, eh?

Here's a few for ya Zim, now that your going to be nailed two across and three down in the crossword puzzle of life. Can you spell watchyourback for 13 across, "Sage advice for staying alive, from the Black Panthers". Or how about: channeltheNRA for 6 down, "Your dying last words on the stand from Charlton Heston".

[Ecumenist]

43. Hot damn, Left On Green Only, I like you. You're a hoot!! ROFLMNBAO!!!

Welcome to DU, BTW and I'm right glad tameetcha!!!

[Kalidurga]

40. Glad to hear it. I hope he has no peace for the rest of his life.

I wish I could feel sorry for him. I know something is not right in his head. But, it very likely is not something completely out of his control either. I know a lot of f'd up people mostly my family and they have never ever ran around with guns looking for trouble.

[pokerfan]

47. Well, it looks like he got his appetite back today

[DCBob]

53. Alot of junk food.

His inmate account total was exactly $121 prior to the purchase. I wonder where that money came from.

[Boabab]

48. In jail is where he belongs

but it should have happened a long time ago.

It is very regrettable that the police recommendation to charge on the night of the shooting was vetoed by Florida State Attorney Normal Wolfinger. He set the stage for this entire debacle.

With GZ charged early on, no national outrage would have erupted.

[DCBob]

51. I have little pity for this guy.

He owned the gun, he aimed the gun and he pulled the trigger. He must suffer the consequences. This case needs to send a message to all those trigger happy gun slingers out there.

[madokie]

54. He's a murdering punk that got caught

so if its true that he cried all or part of the night the cry was because he got caught not because he killed the black kid. That I think could be taken to the bank, so to say

[johnlucas]

55. To HELL with Zimmerman's crying!

'F' his crying.
Couldn't give a damn about his crying.
I only care about Trayvon Martin's family's crying.

To lose their son over something so senseless & primitive-minded hurts my heart.
George Zimmerman's tears make me smile. I'm glad he's hurting!

He ain't hurting enough in my opinion. And this case is gonna put the sho'nuff hurt on his ass!
After he's convicted I hope the worst happens to him with his fellow inmates.
We'll SURELY see some SERIOUS crying THEN!

'F' George Zimmerman!
Convict this waste of carbon & put him in the doggone prison cell for the rest of his natural life.
His tears for a lifetime are worthless compared to a second of tears from Trayvon's grieving family.
Next time, cop wannabes will think twice before devaluing someone's life.
John Lucas

[mainer]

56. I feel sorry for everyone. Even Zimmerman.

Two young lives lost because one of them chose to do the gun swagger.

[sadbear]

64. I agree.

Zimmerman is a victim of our gun culture, too. The biggest difference is that he's still alive.

[Romulox]

66. Yes. nt

[Hell Hath No Fury]

70. +1

George Zimmerman is an American idiot who bought into the macho Dirty Harry gun hype. When he was arraigned I saw fear in his eyes. When you are alone with nothing but your thoughts, there is nowhere from you to hide from yourself and what you have done.

[Jennicut]

59. Jail isn't pretty. It's a terrible place most of the time.

I think Zimmerman was the type to act tough and think he could take on any criminal when in reality he got so scared by a 17 year old boy that he flipped out and shot him. That is what is seems to me anyway. To be in jail is a scary thing for one who has never been there and for one who may have been coddled all his life by the people around him.

[jpak]

61. Gun Heros are cry babies and cowards

He cried because he got caught

He thought he was going to get away vigilante justice.

to bad

yup

[magical thyme]

62. whoa...talk about disconnect from reality

he went to the prosecutor for protection. Didn't expect to get arrested and charged! No surprise that he "wept." I don't think they're crocodile tears, either. Probably the first time in his life he's had to face actual consequences for his behavior.

"The lawyer has expressed fears for Zimmerman's safety and he said Zimmerman went to the prosecutor's office in Jacksonville Wednesday out of concern for his safety, unaware he would be arrested and charged with murder."


No surprise here, though:

"There was no sign of scarring on the back of his head and the booking photo shows no indication that his nose had been broken in his confrontation with Martin, as Zimmerman's former legal team had claimed."


To those who think there is "something wrong" with him. Well, yeah, you don't normally go around packing concealed and play cop if you are normal. We already know his history of being bailed by his father. The reality is we all live within the confines of our own perception of reality. For 28 years he was taught he's immune from consequences. This time, life isn't following his internal script. It's not genetic or alcohol. Just learned inner beliefs hitting wall of outside reality. That's all...

[LynneSin]

67. Oh boo-hoo - at least he has the luxury of being able to cry. Trayvon can't cry anymore

because he's DEAD!

[Catherine Vincent]

71. If he did....

If he did, I don't think he's crying because he's locked up. It probably sinked in that he killed a 17 year old.

[KamaAina]

73. See this? .

Guess what that is, George? It's the world's smallest violin, and it's playing just for you!



Maybe they'll take you to the prison hospital in the

[slampoet]

76. What a punk.

[GETTINGTIRED]

77. only for himself