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Obama Wont Order Ban on Gay Bias by Employers
By JACKIE CALMES
April 11, 2012
WASHINGTON President Obama disappointed and vexed gay supporters on Wednesday with his decision, conveyed to activists by a senior adviser, not to sign an executive order banning discrimination by employers with federal contracts.
The executive order, which activists said had support from the Labor and Justice Departments, would have applied to gay, bisexual and transgender people working for or seeking employment from federal contractors. Current law does not protect against discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity, and legislation to do so, which Mr. Obama endorses, lacks sufficient votes in Congress.
While it is not our usual practice to discuss executive orders that may or may not be under consideration, we do not expect that an executive order on L.G.B.T. nondiscrimination for federal contractors will be issued at this time, said an administration official who would speak about the controversy only if provided anonymity. We support legislation that has been introduced and we will continue to work with Congressional sponsors to build support for it.
That stance departs from the White Houses prominent we cant wait campaign: Since last fall, Mr. Obama has signed executive orders on a variety of issues, arguing that we cant wait for legislation that Republicans in Congress refuse to let pass.
Read the full article at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/12/us/politics/obama-wont-order-ban-on-gay-bias-by-employers.html?_r=4&ref=us
Polls Show Huge Public Support for Gay and Transgender Workplace Protections
By Jeff Krehely | June 2, 2011
Read the article at:
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/06/protection_poll.html
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I'm not sure I blame him. But then again, he could have issued this order last year.
Bryant
Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)Seriously, can anyone provide me a semi-decent reason that Obama won't sign this? I'm asking in all sincerity, please someone clue me in.
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msanthrope
(37,549 posts)at passage. You want an Article 1 Section 8 matter solved by an EO? If you issue an EO, you will never get ENDA out of judiciary. And ENDA is the big cheese.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)It sounds like you are providing them a reason, about which they know nothing!
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Why we needed another thread on this matter is beyond me.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)bluestate10
(10,942 posts)And sink any real legislative effort to get a bill passed. Criticism of President Obama on this issue is ass backwards.
FreeState
(10,570 posts)Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)The Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) has absolutely no chance of being passed by this Congress.
That's the reality.
And if the Republicans retain control of the House or Senate, a probability, you will not see the anti-discrimination law passed until Democrats regain control of both chambers of Congress in 2014 or 2016.
And even with Democratic control of the House and Senate there is no guarantee the passage in 2014 or 2016!
That's because "blue dogs" and other conservative Democrats could join with Republicans to block such legislation.
So what if anything can be done now to prohibit discrimination against gay people by employers with federal contracts other than just hoping for a change in Congress at some time in the future?
Only one thing.
And Executive Order by President Obama.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)then its time to consider what an EO can do.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and will not seek re-election this year.
Plus, Congress will be in recess most of the time between now and the elections.
( see schedule:http://hobnobblog.com/congress-by-the-numbers/congressional-schedules/)
That recess schedule actually is an argument in favor of EO.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)I'm sorry you don't.
ruggerson
(17,483 posts)markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)In any case, it isn't a matter of having faith in Barney Frank (whom I admire greatly, btw). But Barney Frank, even at the height of his powers, was never a miracle worker. And as a lame-duck, outgoing gay Massachusetts Democrat, he's hardly at the height of his powers.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I was merely pointing out that he will have no vote on the issue when he leaves Congress this year.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Response to EOTE (Reply #4)
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msanthrope
(37,549 posts)BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)Remember, Obama has done more for gays during his presidency than any Republican ever would! (remember the repeal of DADT?)
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)may be trying not to short circuit that. I'm not sure.
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)... it only ever affected a very small minority of LGBT citizens. An EO would affect far more, and would likely influence many others in private industry to follow suit.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)There's a possibility that this EO would make the pending ENDA bill completely impossible to pass. Like DADT, it may well be that Obama has some plans to get it through Congress, just as happened with the DADT repeal. I don't know that, of course, but it would be an explanation. Obama's supporting ENDA strongly, and there may be something going on that I don't know that keeps him from doing this EO.
Bottom line is that LGBT civil rights need to become universal. Getting there has always been the issue. That's why it's so important to get control of Congress back and the majorities increased in the Senate.
GOTV!
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)... it's a different ballgame now.
EC
(12,287 posts)while he's President...Legislation will make it law forever or at least until the Supremes overturn it. So I can see why he's waiting...8 months vs. forever...I don't know I think he's being reasonable and practical...
On edit: Who's pushing this meme of being outraged at Obama for not signing and why? And why are so many Dem's/Progressives falling for it?
Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)It would have to be replaced or repealed by another Presidential Executive Order.
So "who's pushing" this Executive Order idea and expressing criticism of President Obama for not supporting such an order?
If you read the article you'll find out the answer to your question.
GLBT organizations and supporters of equal rights.
Are you surprised by that?
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)It's not like there was a vote on that PENDING Legislation already in which it failed, so an EO would be feasible and necessary. Keeping that in mind, I totally understand the need for the Administration to add "at this time" to their statement about not doing an EO.
Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)"That stance departs from the White Houses prominent we cant wait campaign: Since last fall, Mr. Obama has signed executive orders on a variety of issues, arguing that we cant wait for legislation that Republicans in Congress refuse to let pass."
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)pending.
Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)Oh you think this "pending bill" will be passed by a Republican run house!!!!???
Get serious.
Frank's bill will be pending until it's voted down, if it's ever is voted on, in this Congress.
It won't pass.
You know that.
We all know that in the real world.
Isn't that right?
And yet you propose no action be taken by President Obama now and in the coming weeks to stop job discrimination by employers against LGBT people.
That's the bottom line of your "action" proposal!
You propose that President Obama sit on his thumbs and do nothing while waiting on a bill that will not be passed by this Congress!
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)then its time to explore other options.
I trust Barney Frank and President Obama on these issues.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)That quote means something.
On a further note, EO's should be reserved for use when necessary not to circumvent PENDING legislation.
FreeState
(10,570 posts)SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)Gender identity and transgender was introduced for the first time in 2007, and was subsequently dropped because there was not enough votes to pass. It 2009 a transgender inclusive version of ENDA was reintroduced by Barney Frank. It was reintroduced again in 2011. President Obama supports the bills passage. That part of the bill has not been around for 20 years.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Considering....
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)vaberella
(24,634 posts)People were screaming for Obama to pass an executive order. Which Obama even said would have hurt his push for DADT to be repealed. He wants full and permanent change. He doesn't want a temporary change that could be fucked by a Republican president. But most people here seem to be running on another stand point. Obama himself wants DOMA to be repealed and is still pushing for it. But you know as well as I do that ENDA and even DOMA holds no chance in this congress. An executive order doesn't help shit, but makes things worst in the end for situations like this...why? Because the fools who hate the LGBT will see Obama as some authoritarian and will work hard to destroy any chance of a proper repeal. Many Democrats and Republicans see executive orders as an abuse of power, not as something constitutional.
I personally want the shit ended for good...meaning a repeal of DOMA and a push for ENDA, quickly. But I also know the nuanced situation of the presidency and the need to work in a certain way to get things done. This is very typical to the DADT. While many people have suggested Obama tried to sabotage it...in effect he saved it and he worked tirelessly to get it done.
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)vaberella
(24,634 posts)If Obama puts in an executive order. I can see Republicans using this as a major talking point during the debates. To the point they will find a niche to stay in office. "Obama is forcing 'the gay' on us through his authoritarian approach." You know as well as I do how bigoted these fools are. The house is already losing it's footing. Most of the people are already saying the war on women and anti-dream act punks are having them lose women and hispanics to Obama. What does that mean? That means for a democratic congress in 2012. I think Obama is looking to that point. Then he can push through ENDA, Dream, and end DOMA. Right now it's bloody impossible. There is even talk of more progressives taking over congress with the talk of Occupiers leading in seats and people like Elizabeth Warren in the Senate.
I think that's what Obama is looking at...because that's the sort of method he used for DADT. By jumping ahead and doing this the aforementioned phrase is going to be running rampant and will actually gain a lot of leverage. Because if nothing else, it seems one thing many independents and republicans and even some Dems can stand together is some bigoted view points. If a progressive congress in 2012 comes through or even a Democratic dominated House with even more progressives as I had already mentioned seems to be possible. Obama has a clear line to get shit done.
But as I said before. I noticed most people are not seeing the parallel with the steps toward a repeal of DADT here.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)It was one of the easiest pieces of legislation that was on the table at that time, having broad public support and a majority of Democrats in both houses. When that window of time passed, Gay Rights activists took matters into their own hands, aside from getting a judge's ruling in their favor, they asked for an EO to help enforce that ruling. Doing so would NOT have precluded Congress passing a law at some time in the future. But once they allowed the window to close, it became a political football, which was shameful.
It was later used, as predicted, to get the Bush Tax Cuts passed. That was the excuse we were given, that in order to end DADT, we had to extend the Bush Tax Cuts. And the same people now arguing against an EO for this, assumed we all forgot why DADT was held up.
ruggerson
(17,483 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 13, 2012, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)
Lieberman (unfortunately) is the real hero, along with Harry Reid, in ensuring the passage of the DADT repeal. Obama was indeed helpful in the overall push to get the law repealed, but he gutted anti discrimination language, during bargaining talks, which means a new President, if so inclined, could simply issue an executive order banning gay people from serving again (a highly unlikely scenario, but given the Santorums of the world, not impossible.)
The real, tireless heroes of junking DADT are of course, SLDN and the gay community at large, who worked tirelessly for decades to kill it.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)Actually I was reading up on this a lot. I don't know the articles you were reading. But I am sure I can name as many that says OBAMA was the one pushing the vote during the lame duck session. Lieberman was the one who managed to rally the couple of Republican votes and really got them to come across the aisle along with Harry Reid helping to cut deals here and there. But Obama pushed it along the lame duck session.
I will not deny who the real heroes were. Obama himself did not take any credit. But I think he deserves as puch credit as the others as Lieberman or Reid. If Obama really wanted to kill DADT from going forward. I'm sure he could have since so many have said he's killed other initiatives in Congress from going through. From what I have seen of his actions and words he has been very supportive of the LGBT community and the repeal of DADT and his support of it.
In any event I respectfully disagree with you ruggerson.
ruggerson
(17,483 posts)He did pushed for its passage and he orchestrated a timely co-opting of the military brass. And of course he signed the repeal.
What he also did was fight against judicial decisions that were legally dismantling DADT brick by brick. The last one, if you remember, occurred before the lame duck session by the way of a District Court judge declaring DADT unconstitutional. Instead of leaving that decision alone, letting it stand, he decided to fight it. The clicking tock of of that decision is what partially ypushed him to move from being against repeal during 2010. He previoiusly had agreed with Gates May letter to C ongress which had implored them NOT to vote on DADT repeal until the Pentagon study was complete.
To his credit, Obama climbed aboard the "lets repeal it in the lame duck session" train once it seemed like Reid could muster the votes.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Otoh, no surprise as to who is willing to put other people's civil rights on hold.
Elliot Spitzer said it best yesterday, that we do not have anyone ready to take bold actions in this particular period of history. That all decisions like this are carefully calculated for political purposes. Taking a stand right now by issuing an EO, would not harm this president. But, as with DADT, holding it up to use later to tell us that they had to pass the Bush Tax Cuts or Congress would not have ended DADT. It is cynical at best.
But Spitzer is correct in his assessment that there are no heroes in today's America.
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)That's still pending, I believe.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)It just won't pass with this congress. This situation is similar to the situation with DADT. He didn't sign the executive order to put a stop to DADT temporarily because he wanted the official law to be written. Putting in the executive order would have shut down a law passing. It would be the same here. But people just want the quick and fast and temporary. Obama wants the assured long term.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the backtracking on the Bush Tax Cuts. Both those issues were, unbelievably, taken off the table during the run-up to the election. Both issues were popular with the public. Many of us predicted that the Bush tax cuts would be extended and DADT used to 'explain' to us why it could not have been done before. Which was ridiculous.
I wonder what awful legislation is 'on the table' now that will be passed, using other people's civil rights once again, as an excuse as to why they are forced into some other decision.
Issuing an EO simply speeds up the civil rights too long delayed. It does not preclude Congress passing it after the election.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)Keep in mind for Republicans the public doesn't matter. Their small minded consituents do, bigotry, and racism matter because they love it. Keeps them in office.
I personally see it as very possible because I find the Republican party to be disgustingly manipulative and mean spirited and to use any incentive in destroying any progressive agenda. They tried to do it with health care...and health care is more wide spread. Not to mention they almost had it and now again have a chance of destroying it with it going to the supreme court. I can see them using an executive order as an authoritarian/socialist gesture and running with it.
And I think they'd have far more successes because LGBT is not something that affects the general population of the US but a small minority that many hate. You see it as a ridiculous excuse ...taking into account the Republican party currently and what was there before as well as the Blue Dogs who can be just as hateful---I see it as a possibility. They have people like Bachmann going on the house floor and blatantly saying that Black people caused the economic crisis--honestly, I do not underestimate these people...ever. Or even think the will of the public matters in Congress now a days or back then.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)would it matter what a few lunatics in the Republican Party say or think? They are not exactly very popular these days, according to the polls, they were less popular than Communism, the last time I looked.
And if what the public thinks doesn't matter, what does? If a President has the public on his side, he has little to fear from a Party that the people threw out in disgust in 2008, and in January 2009 he had a majority in both houses and could easily have ended DADT at that point. The public was not opposed, nor was the military, to allowing Gays to serve in the military. But it was held up and later used as an excuse for why they had to pass the Bush tax cuts.
I don't get this constant fear of what the least popular people in the country think on the part of Democrats. Even when we win, even when the public throws them out, we are still told 'oh, but what will Republicans say'. Let them talk, they are on the wrong side of history, as always. How about ignoring them and doing what is right for a change? All this does is give them credibility which they do not have.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)friendly Congress, then. That's my goal.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)This is a dupe thread with exactly the same title, posted by Purveyor yesterday. But Better Believe It is not one to let an Obama-bashing article escape his byline.
And I say this as a gay man who is disappointed with this, but who can also see the jackshit we would get from a President Romney or would have from a President McCain.
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)Setting the bar awfully low, don't you think?
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)Even with this disappointment, Barack Obama's list of accomplishments for the gay community really should get him some credit from us.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)I see it as parallel. I talked about it in posts above. Some might not agree but I don't see much of a difference here.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)I'm not too worried about "I want it now and I want it all" crowd. If we were in a country where we LGBT people were being officially executed for who we love or the like, getting some relief now would be in order.
We need to keep fighting the good fight and pushing him on this, though. I'm all about that. It's wrong to deny people these types of contracts because of factors that don't affect the quality of work being produced.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
ruggerson
(17,483 posts)...when asked about ways to circumvent legislation stalled in congress.
"There still a lot of things we can do administratively even if we don't pass things legislatively. So my ability to make sure that the federal government is an employer that treats gays and lesbians fairly, that's something I can do, and sets a model for folks across the board,"
Those who are offering varied excuses, such as an EO would harm the passage of ENDA in Congress, have no rational basis for their argument.
The Executive Order in question covers only Federal Employees - a very different legal protection than what ENDA offers.
There is NO, ZERO, NADA chance that ENDA will ever be brought to a vote in a Republican House. Anyone who argues that an EO might harm pending legislation in Congress does not understand the history of this issue.
ENDA has been "pending" for over 20 years.
FIVE other Presidents have issued Executive Orders in regards to employment in the Federal government.
In 1965, Johnson signed an Executive Order banning federal contractors from discrimination based on race, religion and gender.
This EO would have added sexual orientation to the list.
Obama himself has signed 115 Executive Orders so far in his Presidency.
115.
"There still a lot of things we can do administratively even if we don't pass things legislatively. So my ability to make sure that the federal government is an employer that treats gays and lesbians fairly, that's something I can do, and sets a model for folks across the board,"
Yeah, right.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)There is a lot he could do...but not if it hurts the cause more in the long run.
ruggerson
(17,483 posts)An Executive Order has NOTHING but upside. The polling is astronomically in favor of banning employment discrimination for gays and lesbians.
The only argument against this EO is a calculated, political one.
And what I've quoted are his OWN WORDS from 2010. He's apparently moved 180 degrees in the wrong direction on this.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)Healthcare reform in general had nothing but upsides---look at it now. Republicans try to and succeed at polluting everything. ENDA is not even great for the LGBT but it also works positively for women in the workplace. Look at the politics now or even during the time of DADT. Ruggerson, you can't tell me that these people aren't dangerous and will use anything to destroy a President like Obama who does have a relatively progressive agenda---particularly towards the LGBT. And they will paint him as a tyrant and we get shit in future but possibly laws even more restrictive to the LGBT community despite their lobby. Why? Cause in general LGBT is far more fair game to them than maybe women.
Further more, I read the words and I don't think he has moved 180. I think he's taking in the reality of his situation. Because in many cases Obama has used executive order to help the LGBT community where he could and other groups. However I notice that when it comes to big things like DADT or Healthcare reform he's far far far far far more reluctant to put in executive orders; and I think it's mainly because of the political cost not to himself so much as to the end goal. 20 years stalled and definitely killed if a wrong move is made in the currently political environment of the house.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)I mean, hell, I'm deeply anti-authoritarian yet I think Obama should sign it, fuck it, right?
People want an all-powerful entity that can do all the good in the world, magically with the flick of a pen.
I don't know if him signing it for Federal employees would really impact the passage of ENDA for a near future Congress though. I really don't think it matters that much and he should just do it.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)move at best. It should have passed in January 2009. Many Americans serving in the military during that time had to serve denying who they were or risk losing their jobs and benefits, when it was not necessary, when even after January of 2009, a judge ruled DADT to be unconstitutional, this DOJ fought that ruling, again, in order to use it to get the Bush Tax Cuts passed.
There is no reason now to refuse to issue an EO, other than for political reasons. None People's civil rights should trump everything, and it's really sad to see anyone making excuses as to they do not, even for a day.
treestar
(82,383 posts)And notice you have not heard his side of the story on this first, but go ahead with your bashing.
And give him no credit for anything he HAS done.
ruggerson
(17,483 posts)But this decision is both stupid AND immoral, and maybe you should listen to the people who have been in the trenches on LGBT issues for decades, instead of defending virtually every decision the President makes even if it ties you up into a pretzel.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)How'd that work out?
Sid
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)benefits or to live in fear of being outed and many more to be denied the right to join the military for one more year.
He should have passed that bill in January of 2009 and it would have sailed through Congress. But why didn't they? We know why, maybe you don't, but we do.
And so when the LBGT community realized they were being denied their rights once again, they took matters into their own hands and got a judge's ruling that DADT was unconstitutional. And what did the Obama DOJ do next? They fought that ruling. Why? We know the answer to that also.
Then during that election year's summer, DADT and The Bush Tax Cuts were 'taken off the table'. During an election year. And we saw why that bill was held up until after the election. And they expected us to believe in November, after a judge's ruling in favor of LBGT rights to serve in the military, a refusal by the President to sign an EO to support that ruling, that they had to pass the Bush Tax Cuts in order to get DADT rescinded. And they thought we fell for it.
treestar
(82,383 posts)An EO is not a royal decree. Too many posters on supposedly sophisticated DU treat it as if it were.
KG
(28,751 posts)Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)By: Pam Spaulding
April 12, 2012
Theres no chance that Congress will pass the Employment Non-Discrimination Act any time soon, so yesterdays negative news delivered to Beltway LGBT establishment figures summoned to a special meeting at the White House to receive the smackdown was offensive. Hope they at least got a box of Obama M&Ms for their trouble.
Underscore the offensiveness once you remember what the President actually told Kerry Eleveld back in the day (The Advocate, Dec. 22, 2010):
Let me just say there are still a lot of things we can do administratively even if we dont pass things legislatively. So my ability to make sure that the federal government is an employer that treats gays and lesbians fairly, thats something I can do, and sets a model for folks across the board.Read the full article at:
Whoopsie. I guess it depends on the meaning of a lot of things we can do. One of them is not picking up the executive pen and signing his John Hancock to stop discrimination where he can when it comes to LGBTs.
http://pamshouseblend.firedoglake.com/2012/04/12/wh-press-secretary-bellyflops-when-questioned-about-thumbs-down-on-enda-exec-order/
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)and some with let us say, a history which colors their commentary on these issues. So sick of the chattering straights crying for more discrimination, a while longer, not right now, we still need to hate just a while longer, got to use you to raise money in our churches and politics.
Disgusting. Just get out of the way if you can not support equality now.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Last edited Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:10 PM - Edit history (1)
For what it's worth.
Obama should do it like he should have for DADT but he won't because it's campaign season and he'll likely get ENDA passed if he gets back the House.
Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)An Executive Order would help Obama's election campaign, not hurt it.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Apparently you do to. Cool. We're on the same page.
Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)I only defended the President's overall record.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)I have no idea what you're talking about.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Nevermind.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)It's revealing, isn't it? Same thing with DADT and the same people demanding that those who were being asked to put their civil rights on hold then.
'New Democrats' believe that Civil Rights for those who do not have them, are asking for 'ponies'. They made it clear around 2004 that 'single issue voters' (that would be Gays, Women and Minorities) were no longer going to influence 'The Party'. I was there, I remember it well. And the supporters of this 'new strategy', 'win at all costs' are alive and well. And I wonder about them, as I did then.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)Last I noticed, DADT was dead and gone.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)a year, to be used in that 'chess' game. Maybe you forgot the details, but most of us have not.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)I don't know what you're babbling about. Barack Obama said he'd get rid of DADT, and it's gone.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Facts are facts, and no one who held up that bill for political purposes gets a pass, sorry.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)Seriously, concocting some insane-sounding "held it up for political purposes" reason so President Obama doesn't get credit for killing DADT is just ludicrous, sabrina1. It seems certain you bear ill will towards the President to come up with stupid reasons to discount his actual achievements.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)He is supportive of gay rights and has done several things that show that. Therefore, this should be looked into further.
The main problem with the internet is everyone thinks they can micromanage. Maybe the President has a different strategy. It worked with DADT. Some people don't understand that EOs are limited to carrying out existing law. Or how they are going to interpret existing law. How can he "refuse to sign" an EO? They come from his administration, not Congress. So he's not going to "refuse to sign" one - just not write it up in the first place.
Better Believe It
(18,630 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)President should now do by Executive Order?
In 2010, he claimed he could change this by Executive Order? Based on what statute? You simply don't understand politics on more than the shallowest level.