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Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:06 PM

 

I'm tired of bloodthirsty people.

All of 'em.

When is enough, enough?

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Reply I'm tired of bloodthirsty people. (Original post)
MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 OP
grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #1
MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #3
Electric Monk Sep 2014 #2
Granny M Sep 2014 #69
sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #4
Electric Monk Sep 2014 #5
sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #9
MrMickeysMom Sep 2014 #13
sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #38
d_r Sep 2014 #36
jamzrockz Sep 2014 #14
sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #47
grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #43
leftstreet Sep 2014 #6
1000words Sep 2014 #10
LineLineReply !
adirondacker Sep 2014 #34
WillyT Sep 2014 #7
Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #8
sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #11
JI7 Sep 2014 #17
sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #39
Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #20
MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #29
Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #30
sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #46
J_J_ Sep 2014 #66
DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2014 #64
sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #41
Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #50
JI7 Sep 2014 #18
Feral Child Sep 2014 #52
marble falls Sep 2014 #12
Electric Monk Sep 2014 #15
J_J_ Sep 2014 #67
dflprincess Sep 2014 #16
FlatStanley Sep 2014 #19
Throd Sep 2014 #21
Cleita Sep 2014 #22
Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #24
Cleita Sep 2014 #25
Zorra Sep 2014 #23
Hissyspit Sep 2014 #26
blm Sep 2014 #71
SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #76
woo me with science Sep 2014 #27
Enthusiast Sep 2014 #45
Scuba Sep 2014 #53
rhett o rick Sep 2014 #60
sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #84
DavidG_WI Sep 2014 #28
ReRe Sep 2014 #31
Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #32
gordianot Sep 2014 #33
liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #35
samsingh Sep 2014 #37
Initech Sep 2014 #40
Egnever Sep 2014 #42
ronnie624 Sep 2014 #49
Enthusiast Sep 2014 #44
newfie11 Sep 2014 #48
Rex Sep 2014 #51
WillyT Sep 2014 #54
Autumn Sep 2014 #55
G_j Sep 2014 #56
Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #57
99Forever Sep 2014 #58
woo me with science Sep 2014 #59
edgineered Sep 2014 #61
Iggo Sep 2014 #62
pampango Sep 2014 #63
brooklynite Sep 2014 #65
SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #77
brooklynite Sep 2014 #78
SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #81
blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #68
Helen Borg Sep 2014 #70
marlene.elyse Sep 2014 #72
Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #73
marble falls Sep 2014 #74
whereisjustice Sep 2014 #75
AngryAmish Sep 2014 #79
MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #83
KJG52 Sep 2014 #80
LWolf Sep 2014 #82

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:07 PM

1. Kick;)

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:08 PM

3. Thanks.

 

I caught it about one second after posting.

Fat fingers on touchscreen.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:07 PM

2. You can never have enough of something you didn't really need in the first place.

 

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:39 PM

69. So true, Electric Monk. nt

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:09 PM

4. You're not the only one, the world is sick of them. How to stop them is the problem. We THOUGHT

we had stopped them in 2008, but that didn't work. So what now?

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:11 PM

5. Line em all up against the wall and.... oh, never mind, that'd make us as bad as them.

 

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:20 PM

9. I'd settle for putting them all behind bars where they can no longer do any more harm.

The world has been taken over by psychopaths imho. They have no emotions, no compassion, no interest in human beings who are not a part of their small, but powerful world.

But it is the people who are to blame. Anyone who supports or excuses or tries to explain all this away, is as guilty as they are. Without that blind support, they never could have gained the power they have.

I will never, ever support ANYONE who voted for these wars. No way. And the day when a majority of the people take a stand finally, will be the day they begin to lose the power they have right now.

I'm counting on the younger generation. The rest are too indoctrinated to be able to see clearly. But they young are way more informed and are pretty much immune to the Corporate Media propandists.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:46 PM

13. I know you're counting on more than the young, sabrina...

But, then, the young, who are the growing single populations who don't really vote and don't have much of a future, but lots of student loan debt, have way more reasons to take it to the street.

Still, it is up to my generation, who represent their parents to get out and DO something. I thought that had begun again with yesterday's protests. You saw the media try to kill it.

My generation has to increase it's savvy with social media and make the connection between our past protesting and what we do now. It's not happening as it should, and that is disturbing me to great ends. I should be at the age where I can do what I just said, yet, I'm trying to erase the last of my own debt. I feel the time running away…

This insanity can either make one feel helpless, or give it the push we finally need to make them hear us.


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Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #13)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:46 AM

38. Yesterday did give me hope. But as you said, the Media ignored it. I posted an OP

here on DU but I guess here there is little interest in what really is one of the most important issues facing the world today. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025574825 Many important people participated, normally just that would get media attention.

If you check the link there is a statement by John Kerry saying that Climate Change is one of the most important issues facing us today.

Hillary was not there nor did she issue a statement of support for this Global event.

You are right, I am not totally depending on the younger generation, but look at the state of the world despite all the efforts of good people over the past several decades.

I know eventually things will have to change, history shows that nothing lasts forever. But right now all I see is that the people's opinion doesn't matter at all.

Anyhow, thanks for your response, people like you do give me hope.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #9)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:43 AM

36. they can appear to themselves every day on closed circuit t.v.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:47 PM

14. The neocons

 

never lose. Change the ruling part and they have their guys in the democratic party carry on their policy. If they are not poking the Russian bear, they are picking fights with ME, African, South America or east asian..

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Response to jamzrockz (Reply #14)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:11 AM

47. Yes, that has become obvious. The party may change, but the policies of the neocons

don't. They are psychopaths but how did these fringe loonies get control of this country, that is the question?

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:55 AM

43. How? Never give up.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:13 PM

6. Humanitarian mission: Military Contractors Without Borders n/t

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:32 AM

34. !

NICE One!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:14 PM

7. It's The Killer Apes Manny... Many Have Devolved... Others... Not So Much...

 



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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:18 PM

8. Then you're also tired of Elizabeth Warren, right?

 

Considering her backing of Israel's actions in Gaza and her support for sending Israel advanced weapons?

Also her statement that destroying ISIS should be our No. 1 priority.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:23 PM

11. Yes, if she is on board with all this bloodshed, I have no more respect for her than any of the

others. Why do you think that people will be influenced by politicians they respect AFTER that politician acts in a way that shows they do not deserve that respect?

I have zero problem refusing to continue to support even my most respected Representative once they do something that shows they do not deserve that respect.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:58 PM

17. wasn't Keith Ellison the only one to vote against Israel and the Current Syria funding ?

and yet you don't see people talk him up for President. is it because he is black and muslim ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:50 AM

39. A lone voice. It may be because he is Muslim. There have been others who refused to

go along, Dennis Kucinich eg. Cynthia McKinney, but they don't seem to last long once they oppose these policies. They are smeared, redistricted, basically 'run out of town'.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:14 PM

20. Yes? You speak for MannyGoldstein?

 

He's tired of Elizabeth Warren.

Since you apparently speak for Manny, why keep the Elizabeth Warren 2016 signature line?

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #20)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:52 PM

29. Ultimately, even I don't speak for MannyGoldstein

 

Thoughtful Democrats know that the Atman is the Brahman.

Peace.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #29)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:03 AM

30. How would you define a bloodthirsty person in this case?

 

Someone who supports policies such as bombing and supplying weapons to apartheid states like Israel?

Or somebody who chops someone's head off in front of a camera with a knife?

Or Both?

Just curious....

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #30)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:05 AM

46. Or a nation that invades a sovereign country and slaughters over one million of its

citizens, tortures and maims untold numbers of others, rapes its women, sodomizes its children, hell, rapes its teenage girls.

Are you aware of the atrocities committed by the 'Allied Forces' against the innocent people of Iraq and Afghanistan?

I can provide you examples, but it would take weeks to document all the atrocities, and that's just what we KNOW. Is it better to torture to death untold numbers of people or to behead innocent people?

Are we REALLY in a position to be so outraged over any atrocity at this point? And how about our allies? Bahrain? Know anything about that dictatorship and its years long abuse and brutality towards its own people? How about the Saudis? Know how they put people to death over there, for stealing eg, or how they treat GAYS and women? How about Qatar? Read much about THAT dictatorship?

The hypocrisy is simply stunning. Maybe IF we had prosecuted our War Criminals, or cut ties with the dictatorships we call 'allies', we could claim the moral high ground. But we didn't, did we?

Know anything about another of our allies to whom OUR TAX DOLLARS GO to help keep him in power, Karamov of Uzbekistan?? Boiling people in oil and dropping their bodies off at the homes of their families?? How do you feel about THAT? Your taxes keep him in luxury. Have you ever expressed OUTRAGE over THOSE VICTIMS?? Genocide, remember that?

Please, maybe fifteen years ago before our OWN brutal war crimes were public knowledge, at least some of them, we could be outraged over barbarism. But we are used to it now, aren't we, used to looking at the photos of the bodies of babies in Fallujah, eg, with their skin burned off by White Phospherous?

That's the problem when you drag a once compassionate people into a brutal, vicious war and make excuses for the torture of human beings. It's getting harder to SHOCK us.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #46)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:39 PM

66. + Infinity

 

"The hypocrisy is simply stunning. Maybe IF we had prosecuted our War Criminals, or cut ties with the dictatorships we call 'allies', we could claim the moral high ground. But we didn't, did we? "

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #30)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:13 PM

64. What in the holy fuck is so difficult for you to understand?

 

He's tired of bloodthirsty people. Do you get that?

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #20)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:52 AM

41. I speak for myself. Manny speaks for himself. You need to ask him what he thinks.

I've already told you what I think. What about you? Are you willing to continue to support a candidate you had faith in if they betray that trust? I see no reason to do that.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #41)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:54 AM

50. I did ask him....not sure why you decided to jump in. LOL. nt

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:05 PM

18. her opposition was towards funds for weapons to the rebels, not to the bombing

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:19 AM

52. Yes.

These "gotcha" questions are silly. It's a puerile tactic.

If she's backing more war, then yes, I am disillusioned with her. There's no inconsistency with my pacifism.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:31 PM

12. Its never enough. Itsalways just this one more massacre will fix everything.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:50 PM

15. One more fix will fix it right up. Then we'll be good. Just one more fix.

 

Sounds a lot like a heroin junkie, doesn't it?

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #15)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:01 PM

67. yes, they are junkies for money, stealing from all of us to get their fix

 


We do need to approach this like they are mentally ill.

Do we normally just allow addicted people to steal from everyone to get their fix and just keep going and going no matter how obviously detrimental to themselves and everyone around them?

Normally when this truth is discovered, there is an intervention, the addicted person is removed from the addicted substance, put in a treatment center until they stop harming themselves and other people.

Then there could be support groups, to help them talk about why there were so damn greedy in the first place. What went wrong? Help them deal with their own issues instead of taking it out on the rest of us.

They formerly addicted to money can then attend weekly meetings to make sure they do not fall in the the trap of sociopathic assholishness again.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:57 PM

16. It's not so much that their bloodthirsty it's thst their greedy

And war is such an easy way to make a lot of money. I doubt they even think about the blood shed

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:11 PM

19. When it's not my President, of course.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:20 PM

21. Me too, but we're gonna have to kill 'em all first before we can have a polite society.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:22 PM

22. Stop paying your income taxes.

It's the last recourse you have. Yes, they will come after you and ruin your life. But the risk is the same the civil rights workers took and many paid with their actual lives.

No taxes. No money in the Treasury. Rich people and mega-corporations don't pay anyway. But since they are getting their profits from our Treasury, when you turn off that spigot, the MIC can't keep the blood/money economy spinning when ther is no money unless they borrow it and borrow it they will until ther is no actual money to pay the interest on it.

The way you do it is to claim enough deductions to not have withholding. Then file quarterly taxes but don't pay them. It's on file. You did the honest thing, however, they will send the IRS after you to crucify you. But they are so slow it will take a few years. In the meantime you put the money owed in escrow.

Just a thought.


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Response to Cleita (Reply #22)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:29 PM

24. Worst advice ever. I hope nobody is tempted to follow it (nt)

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #24)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:36 PM

25. I will admit it's awful, like facing militarized police in a protest in the South

circa the Sixties. AND it's not advice, only a suggestion, but what needs to be done. However, I myself would recommend careful thought, a constituency and a real knowledge of the consequences.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:28 PM

23. Trust us, Manny, we know. They are monsters, and there's lots of them out there.

And they breed more bloodsuckers every day.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:37 PM

26. We should kill them all.

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #26)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:04 PM

71. ; )

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #26)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:17 PM

76. Even that isn't working...

That seems to be our current policy.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:44 PM

27. Moral depravity.

From the One Percent who profit, to the craven media, to the soulless politicians, to the morally bankrupt propagandists.

How can so many people be so absent of conscience? How do you offer yourself to work for this evil, and then go home and look in the eyes of your family or your neighbors, and live with yourself?

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #27)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:04 AM

45. PLUS ONE, a huge bunch!

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #27)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:40 AM

53. + another

 

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #27)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 10:50 AM

60. Good question. nm

 

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #27)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 10:44 PM

84. I don't think such people have ANY problem looking their families in the eyes. They are psychopaths

They truly believe that bombing and torturing people is the RIGHT thing to do. It's hard for normal human beings who possess the ability to empathize, to have compassion for others, to know right from wrong, to understand such people. But every so often throughout history they manage to get into power and hold onto it by any means until finally there is critical moment where they are finally stopped.

The slaughter in the ME that has gone on for decades, the lies told to try to justify it, will be looked back on in history as one of those terrible periods we look back on now, but didn't live through. The sad thing is that they ALWAYS have enablers for one reason or another and it is THEY imo, who are the most responsible for the bloodbaths they engage in because without that support they would never manage to do what they do.

I used to wonder how Hitler, evil as he was, was not toppled by the German people. Why didn't they stop him before he gained so much power?

Now I know the answer to that questionl.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 11:52 PM

28. I take it...

 

You've never drank any, its actually pretty tasty.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:04 AM

31. Vampires never get enough, Manny :-( n/t

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:17 AM

32. I've met some on the Right that want to wipe ALL "Arabs" from the planet....

 

There is something about these guys that they just LOVE the idea of mass genocide in the BILLIONS.

Don't believe it?

Mention China.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:18 AM

33. On family average for males in my family I have at best 25 years.

That will be enough. It would allow me to see my Granddaughter grow up and maybe meet some more Grandchildren. I might be able to have some good days on our farm. Yes maybe 25 years is enough on occasions I might read about blood thirsty people. On the downside I expect another Republican President as bad or worse than George Bush and reading about stupid people will raise my blood pressure cutting short those 25 years.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:36 AM

35. me too Manny, me too.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:45 AM

37. how do you stop bloodthirsty people?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:52 AM

40. Fuck the military industrial complex.

Fuck Blackwater, fuck Halliburton, fuck Raytheon, fuck KBR, fuck 'em all!!! Fuck perpetual war.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:54 AM

42. You need a nap?

 

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Response to Egnever (Reply #42)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:50 AM

49. Too many people are asleep already.

I hope you're not one of them.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:02 AM

44. Kicked and recommended! I'm with you, Brother.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 01:45 AM

48. K&R

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 03:35 AM

51. You can feel any way you want to. The MIC will still continue feeding on trillions of dollars

 

that we don't have. Sadly the way we feel or what we say, has no effect on the Monster. You would have to buy all of Congress and then convince them to work a few weeks a month to make any kind of change. Then take on all of Wall Street next.

Remember how OWS worked out? The Authority went apeshit and Wall Street won.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:17 AM

54. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

 


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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:28 AM

55. For them Manny, it will never be enough.

I'm with you, I'm sick of them.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:36 AM

56. agree

the 'powers that be' continue to appeal to the worst in human nature.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:38 AM

57. When have they ever achieved a positive outcome? It's difficult to watch time and again. n/t

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:52 AM

58. Good question, Manny.

They suck on every level.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:35 AM

61. k&r

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 11:38 AM

62. It's never enough.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:07 PM

63. I think we all are. What do you do about them though? n/t

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 12:15 PM

65. Like President Obama?

You believe he enjoys undertaking military action?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #65)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:21 PM

77. Do you think President Obama and the USA did everything in their power

before going to war?

Do you think war is being used as a last resort?

Obama may not enjoy it, but he sure uses it a lot.

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Response to SomethingFishy (Reply #77)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:28 PM

78. What additional steps would you consider appropriate?

ISIS doesn't appear to be open to negotiation or susceptible to economic pressure, and if we arrange for other entities to do the military action, its really no different, is it?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #78)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:41 PM

81. Then we go where we are asked.

If ISIS won't talk we ask who wants our protection from ISIS and we go in and protect them. ISIS has according to all reports approx 30,000 members. Are you telling me that our 1.4 million soldiers, 8,000 tanks, 2000 fighter jets, 10 aircraft carriers, thousands of surface to air missiles, hundreds of drones, and 5000 Nuclear warheads cannot protect Syrian and Iraqi towns from 30,000 ISIS members? If that's true then we need to rethink our fucking military.

Why has war become "pro-active"? Is this a "pre-crime" world where we attack people because of something they might do in the future? What ever happened to having an army to defend yourself with? When is the last time our army was actually used to Defend America? And I don't mean that "protecting our freedoms" bullshit.

I don't see this as us "defending" anyone. I see it as us protecting our interests in the middle east. If we were so worried about Sharia Law then we would not be kissing the hand of Saudi Arabia.


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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 04:22 PM

68. When we make war unprofitable.

 

War = Death = PROFIT = War

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:00 PM

70. Vampires are not people.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 05:14 PM

72. I saw a quote the other day


"Under peaceful conditions, the warlike man attacks himself."

~Nietzsche


BTW, is there a senate psychologist? because Lindsey Graham's condition is deteriorating.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:19 PM

73. Me too. Petty, small-minded war makers and their weapons galore, very very wearisome.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 07:37 PM

74. Now. I'm with you, Mannie.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:15 PM

75. It is displaced aggression and a convenient distraction from the REAL problems crippling the US.

The problems we have here at home are far worse than anything ISIS could conceive.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:30 PM

79. My friend, you are tired of human nature.

 

It will never change.

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Response to AngryAmish (Reply #79)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 10:13 PM

83. My former neighbor would disagree...

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Better_Angels_of_Our_Nature

It may actually be getting much better.

But any homicide is still awful.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:31 PM

80. Me Too... eom

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:56 PM

82. Me, too. nt

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