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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:01 PM Sep 2014

a**hole of the week -man drove car into spot cleared for medical helicopter to land, refused to move

http://m.news-journalonline.com/article/20140926/NEWS/140929545/0/FRONTPAGE?p=1&tc=pg

But Allen, as noted in Eisen’s report, drove his 2007 Toyota around the emergency vehicles for about 200 feet off the paved highway. Deputies and emergency personnel yelled at Allen to stop his car, to no avail, the report states. Allen was ordered three times to park his car east of the emergency vehicles and out of the way of the helicopter, but refused, deputies said, instead stopping on S.R. 40.

Allen then rolled into the open space on S.R. 40 that had been cleared for the helicopter’s landing, the report states. That’s when he almost struck Sheriff’s Sgt. Justin Sawicki with his Toyota, deputies said. As Allen passed Sawicki, the sergeant began yelling at him to stop. Allen was in the helicopter’s landing zone and the chopper was just above, 50 to 100 feet from the ground, the report states. Sawicki then told the pilot to abort the landing to avoid another accident.

Allen, of Port Orange, told deputies he had no idea the road was being blocked and then said, “I always go around firetrucks and never have had a problem before,” the report shows.

But deputies say Allen did have a tough time hearing several people yell at him as he drove around eight fire and emergency vehicles parked in the east lanes of S.R. 40 early Thursday just after midnight.






Http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2772606/Man-jailed-refusing-car-allow-medical-helicopter-land-scene-car-accident-left-woman-26-dead.html

A Florida physician's assistant was jailed Thursday after refusing to move his car to allow a medical helicopter access to the scene of a deadly car crash, police say.

James Allen, 52, first drove around emergency vehicles in the Barberville accident that left 26-year-old Tessa George dead.

He then drove directly into the spot cleared for a helicopter and wouldn't move it even as police pleaded and the helicopter hovered 50-100 feet above, authorities say. 



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Police say he then pulled into the spot reserved for the helicopter and refused to move, officials said.

Only when Allen was forced to move his car could the helicopter finally land, and even then police say Allen continued to refuse to produce his driver's license.

In the end, he claimed it was because he was confused about what all the fuss was over.

According to the police report, as he was arrested Allen yelled:

'I always go around firetrucks.'

In answer to his confusion, police charged Allen with failure to obey police-fire department or
ders and resisting an officer without violence.

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a**hole of the week -man drove car into spot cleared for medical helicopter to land, refused to move (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 OP
White Privilege thelordofhell Sep 2014 #1
True. He would have been shot dead if he were black. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #20
What an arrogant jackass. n/t Lil Missy Sep 2014 #2
Maybe he WAS confused by a helicopter landing zone on a highway...need both sides these days before Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #3
"i always go around firetrucks" statement means he's a serial a**hole Liberal_in_LA Sep 2014 #4
You cannot possibly be serious. dballance Sep 2014 #12
Maybe he was just confused. tecelote Sep 2014 #13
"for about 200 feet off the paved highway" - this wasn't 'confusion' muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #15
So he did it to be an asshole? tecelote Sep 2014 #17
What is wrong with this forum, according to you? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #18
Simple. tecelote Sep 2014 #19
You don't know either; you said 'maybe' muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #23
I don't know if he is an asshole or not. tecelote Sep 2014 #24
Do you know what it means when someone suspects something? n/t kcr Sep 2014 #31
Are you under the umpression that a forum is a court of law? Marr Sep 2014 #33
Oh he is an asshole rjsquirrel Sep 2014 #36
Much as you're confusing 'outrage' and 'benign discussion...'? LanternWaste Sep 2014 #39
Since the object of attention claims to be confused, my comment is based on his evidence. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #40
he drove off the pavement to pass several emergency vehicles noiretextatique Sep 2014 #5
I suspect drunk, but they probably checked for that. I'm left with narcissistic a-hole. Shrike47 Sep 2014 #6
And this guy is a physician's assistant ?? "Oh..you meant the RIGHT eye?" Opps..sorry about that. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #7
Even worse(?) - it appears he is a nurse practitioner FrodosPet Sep 2014 #10
Why didn't a fire truck just bulldoze his car out of the way? dickthegrouch Sep 2014 #8
One more good reason for Medflights to carry BunkerBusters. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2014 #9
Money is on that "2007 Toyota" being a Camry. n/t flvegan Sep 2014 #11
Uh, why? tkmorris Sep 2014 #14
Camry's are evil doncha' know! whistler162 Sep 2014 #21
Personal observation. flvegan Sep 2014 #22
I was thinking Tacoma or Tundra. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #43
Dude sounds like he was high on something... ReRe Sep 2014 #16
You raise a good point. lpbk2713 Sep 2014 #25
Maybe he's a diabetic. 840high Sep 2014 #29
Yeah, white male yuppie privilege Warpy Sep 2014 #27
Barberville? quaker bill Sep 2014 #34
Yup, hardly any DU'ers go to Welaka these days! edgineered Sep 2014 #37
Just a complete ass. greytdemocrat Sep 2014 #26
I'll bet he's Republican. If he were black, the cops would have shot him dead. nt valerief Sep 2014 #28
It's 'Physician Assistant', not 'Physician's Assistant'. And he's a Nurse Practitioner, not a PA. Aristus Sep 2014 #30
my beloved Florida DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #32
my dollar says homegrown. quaker bill Sep 2014 #35
It could be they like our governor. edgineered Sep 2014 #38
SMH Mr Dixon Sep 2014 #41
Charges seem to be pretty fair. NCTraveler Sep 2014 #42
Definite asshole. I surprised the police showed any restraint with this guy. badtoworse Sep 2014 #44

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
1. White Privilege
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:08 PM
Sep 2014

If that guy was black, we would be hearing about how a suspect was shot trying to block emergency vehicles

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
3. Maybe he WAS confused by a helicopter landing zone on a highway...need both sides these days before
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:28 PM
Sep 2014

pushing the Outrage Button.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
12. You cannot possibly be serious.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 05:38 PM
Sep 2014

He drove around EIGHT, Count them EIGHT emergency vehicles blocking the road. He almost ran down a person.

If he were a concerned medical professional who wanted to offer his assistance he could simply pull up the the line of emergency vehicles, get out of his car, and then find the officer in charge to offer assistance.

In light of the evidence I must push the Outrage Button and the Dumfuck Button.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
13. Maybe he was just confused.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:03 PM
Sep 2014

But deputies say Allen did have a tough time hearing several people yell at him as he drove around eight fire and emergency vehicles parked in the east lanes of S.R. 40 early Thursday just after midnight.

Maybe he was just confused.

It happens.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,263 posts)
15. "for about 200 feet off the paved highway" - this wasn't 'confusion'
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:09 PM
Sep 2014

unless he's too 'confused' to be allowed to drive at any time.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
17. So he did it to be an asshole?
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:13 PM
Sep 2014

Condemn this man!

Didn't he say "Screw You" too?

Oh yeah, he did not.

What's wrong with this forum?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,263 posts)
18. What is wrong with this forum, according to you?
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:21 PM
Sep 2014

I suspect he did it because he thought that rules like stopping at a road blocked by the emergency services didn't apply to him. I doubt he did it to be an asshole; he just is an asshole.

What does whether he said 'screw you' have to do with it?

Seriously, I'd like you to explain what you think is wrong with this forum.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
19. Simple.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:27 PM
Sep 2014

Your quote. "I suspect he did it..."

You do not know. Plus, what did he do? Intentionally create a distraction? For what reason?

The poor guy just might have been confused but you have him convicted. For what?

I actually like this forum and respect so many here. But, I am surprised when this type of post happens.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,263 posts)
23. You don't know either; you said 'maybe'
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:00 PM
Sep 2014

This is an internet forum. We discuss things. You asked "So he did it to be an asshole?", and I answered you question with 'I suspect'. Did you really expect your question to only be answered with someone who had cast-iron proof of his motivation?

You put forward a suggestion. By your logic, that too is 'what is wrong with DU'. You don't know he was confused. You have, however, ignored the bit about driving 200 feet off the road. That is a vital piece of evidence for him not being 'confused', but an asshole. If you are confused by a road blocked by emergency vehicles, you stop. You don't drive off the road to go round.

What did he do? He stopped an emergency helicopter landing. I haven't seen anyone suggest he did this to "intentionally create a distraction", so I can't see why you bring that up now, and then ask someone else to provide a reason for your brand new suggestion.

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
24. I don't know if he is an asshole or not.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:06 PM
Sep 2014

You seem sure he is. You have so little information and you are so quick to condemn.

That is my point.

Simple.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
33. Are you under the umpression that a forum is a court of law?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:12 AM
Sep 2014

People have opinions. They base them on available data.

Welcome to Planet Earth. Try the pizza.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
39. Much as you're confusing 'outrage' and 'benign discussion...'?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:29 AM
Sep 2014

"Maybe he WAS confused by a helicopter landing zone on a highway..."

Much as you're confusing 'outrage' and 'benign discussion' to add a wee bit of melodramatic peevishness to a point?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
40. Since the object of attention claims to be confused, my comment is based on his evidence.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:10 AM
Sep 2014

The comments of the witnesses are also evidence.

One can armchair jury all one likes, but it is just all evidence. Pick the evidence you believe from the media reports.

Word of advice...stringing together two big words is impressive, but more so if they make sense together.

I sometimes swear that many folks think themselves excellent criminal lawyers because of all their experience serving on media juries and cyber Kangaroo courts.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
5. he drove off the pavement to pass several emergency vehicles
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:38 PM
Sep 2014

because he routinely fails to stop and yield to emergency vehicles, like a normal person would. total asshole.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
6. I suspect drunk, but they probably checked for that. I'm left with narcissistic a-hole.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 03:41 PM
Sep 2014

A big fine should be coming his way, at the very least.

dickthegrouch

(3,169 posts)
8. Why didn't a fire truck just bulldoze his car out of the way?
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 04:30 PM
Sep 2014

That's what I'd have done if I were one of those firetruck drivers. Just let him try to sue.

flvegan

(64,404 posts)
22. Personal observation.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:40 PM
Sep 2014

In my experience, a shocking percentage of them are driven by unthinking morons that have no earthly idea what they're doing during the time that passes between "buckling up to leave" and "arrival at destination" anymore.

Additionally, I have no idea what the poster above me is on about a car being godly, evil, etc. Maybe they get paid for each use of the apostrophe, I don't know.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
43. I was thinking Tacoma or Tundra.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:14 AM
Sep 2014

I have noticed people in Florida with base trucks often look for any excuse to leave the pavement with them. Sides of roads are perfect for them because it isn't too "bumpy" for them and their shiny truck.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
16. Dude sounds like he was high on something...
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 06:13 PM
Sep 2014

... could have taken a little too much out of the medicine cabinet at work. If he was a Nurse Practitioner, why didn't he park his car and see if he could help? Whatever, if he was a black man, we all know where he would be now... in the morgue. I hope they did a drug screen on him. That's where I think they would find the answer to his behavior.

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
25. You raise a good point.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:11 PM
Sep 2014



It might be interesting to know if he was on his way home from
work and if he had taken medication intended for a patient.

Warpy

(111,124 posts)
27. Yeah, white male yuppie privilege
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 07:42 PM
Sep 2014

I hope they throw the book at him but he'll likely get a traffic ticket and slap on the wrist.

quaker bill

(8,223 posts)
34. Barberville?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 06:14 AM
Sep 2014

I don't think they have yuppies there. DeLand, sure maybe a few, but Barberville, not so much.

Aristus

(66,275 posts)
30. It's 'Physician Assistant', not 'Physician's Assistant'. And he's a Nurse Practitioner, not a PA.
Sun Sep 28, 2014, 10:57 PM
Sep 2014

He's a disgrace to either profession.

edgineered

(2,101 posts)
38. It could be they like our governor.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:02 AM
Sep 2014

Granted, there is no sense to that statement, but driving around the trucks doesn't make any sense either. Maybe he lives in the forest nearby and believes he has the same rights as the deer, bear, and other animals to freely transverse the trails?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
42. Charges seem to be pretty fair.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:11 AM
Sep 2014

I understand there could be some confusion on his part. That confusion should have left him stopped with everyone else. The confusion doesn't send you off the road on your own to forge your own path around an emergency situation.

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