There's no tougher job in the world than being a Mom, except being a mom and having a job. (nt)

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[Little Star]

1. If you aren't rich enough and have to do both jobs yourself...

I would agree.

Rich enough to have a housekeeper, cook, etc. and work simply cause ya want to, not so much imho.

[ejpoeta]

2. I totally agree. One of the reasons I became a Stay at home mom

was because I was going to work everyday and working a full day and then coming home and doing all the jobs there too. So I left work and became a full time mom. I honestly don't know how my sister does it. She works a full day and then drives 40 minutes home every day. By the time she gets home and has to make dinner and get the kids to do their homework and clean.... just thinking about it is exhausting!

[zbdent]

3. but then you're a "bad mom" ...

well, you were in the 80s and 90s, according to the "He-Man, Hillary Haters Club" ... a.k.a. the Republicans ...

[Iris]

20. Still are today

and He-Man Hillary Haters Club has been replaced by other moms.

[ZombieHorde]

4. Soldier seems like a pretty tough job.

The job seems to have a pretty high suicide rate.

Coal miners seem to have it pretty rough too.

[cali]

5. as someone in another thread said

how about being an aide in a Nursing Home- and add being a single Mom to that.

Ann Romney is fucking clueless just like her phony shitbird of a husband.

[Tennessee Gal]

17. "phony shitbird"

LOL! I like that!

[elehhhhna]

10. both jobs that some single moms have

thanks for playing

[ZombieHorde]

11. I have a feeling we are not discussing the same subject. nt

[Iris]

21. excellent point

[demmiblue]

6. There is no tougher job in the world than being a SAHM with a special needs/medically fragile child.

There is no tougher job in the world than being a well-paid working mom who has no family/social support to speak of.

There is no tougher job in the world than being a SAHM that has 3 children, yet is moved constantly due to her husband's military career.

There is no tougher job in the world than being a working mom that is single and doesn't know if she can buy her kids shoes or put food in their bellies.

There is no tougher job in the world than being a SAHM who is also a care-giver to her or her husband's aging parents.

There is no tougher job in the world than being a working mom that was just diagnosed with cancer.


I thought that we were past this.



Edit: This post is DEFINITELY not a reflection of how I feel about Anne Romney, but how an OP like this divides women.

[JDPriestly]

8. A stay-at-home mom who has plenty of time to ride dressage-style horses

as a hobby shouldn't complain if someone says she hasn't worked a day in her life.

[demmiblue]

12. Like I said, my post was not about Anne Romney.

I agree with you.

[Butterbean]

14. Thank you. The mommy wars are nothing more than unhealthy infighting that divide women.

It gets exhausting. Motherhood, however you slice it, however you do it, is hard.

[LiberalCatholic]

19. I agree

I've done both and frankly the thing that amazes me is that I feel guilty no matter what. When I was at home I was not putting away money for retirement and college. When I work I feel like I am not doing enough for my kids. For the women who are part of the 99%, this issue is a difficult one. We need to drop this argument- everyone has struggles in their life. Now, that being said, money can make those struggles much easier... duh...

[mzmolly]

32. Hear hear!

[JDPriestly]

7. Been a stay-at-home mom and a working mom, and I will take the stay-at-hom

mom any time although I loved working.

It's really hard to leave a small child every morning. And sometimes you have to leave when they are not feeling well. It's just horrible.

[Raven]

9. Or a Mom taking care of her aging parents or hubby's

aging parents. I know them and they suffer in silence...maybe until now.

[on point]

13. Wat she really meant is that Ann Romney doesn't have paycheck experience

Perhaps she could have said it more artfully, but what she was trying to say was that Ann Romney has never worked for a paycheck and thus didn't appreciate the need for pay equity. She didn't mean that she didn't work at all. This is truly gotcha attack instead of listening to what she was trying to convey.

[LadyHawkAZ]

15. THIS!!

Ann Rmoney can take her nannies and household staff and dressage horses and Caddilacs and shove them where the sun don't shine. How dare she pretend she knows anything about actual work? Fuck these people.

[saras]

16. Sure there is. Mom and soldier in a country with no government and no community.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

25. that is tough

[Deep13]

18. coal mining, poultry processing, migrant farm worker nt

[Iris]

22. There's no tougher job in the world than being your own person

and not getting caught up in all this hype.

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28. I meant it to be funny, something about the idiocy of the hype. (nt)

[Iris]

31. Lol! I see!

I'm just overly sensitive today.

(But really, I wish women would just chill the fuck out and be satisfied with knowing whatever they are doing for their families is the right thing for THEM and doesn't need anyone else's approval)

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34. Iris, I'm a bit late to respond, but I agree with you completely especially as the mother of two

young women. This problem of needing to fit in with some societal norm seems to be getting worse and worse, instead of getting better as women get more "empowered." It turns out the secret is to live your life as yourself. Seems simple, but I didn't get there till I got to be ridiculously old. And I think it's actually getting harder instead of easier.

[Iris]

36. I just keep thinking of the mom in the Sandra Bullock movie - Hope Floats

It's from 1998 and her mother is played by Gena Rowlands. At one point, she basically tells Sandra's character that yes, she was an eccentric woman and didn't fit the mold her daughter saw her friends' mothers play. But she told her she needed to grow up and deal with it and learn how to be her own person or her own child was going to suffer.

There's actually a similar them in Ya Ya Sisterhood - moreso in the book - where the mother is unapologetic for being who she was even if it made her daughter uncomfortable.


And my late mother-in-law raised my husband to be his own person and never pressured us to be anything different as a couple.

[Motown_Johnny]

23. She should have said "Never brought home a paycheck"

instead of "never worked a day".


I think that should be our meme. Yes she has worked but she never had to provide for herself or her family.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

24. it's tough having no money, no job and being a Mom

Ann Romney - only the third one applies

[jp11]

26. Wrong.

Having pride in taking care of your kids is great and doing that and working for someone or running your own business is surely more difficult than raising kids and taking care of a home, even worse doing one or the other on your own.

But lets not champion one parent, be it mom or dad, over the other nor act like taking care of kids and a home is the same as having to swallow your pride and dignity by working at some horrible job taking other people's crap all day cause you need the lousy job, it isn't.

Taking care of your kids is what parents are supposed to do, when they do it they aren't heroes to the world, they should be heroes to their kids and at some point their kids should realize that. It is fantastic that parents take care of their kids, as they should, but it doesn't make them any better than people without kids or the parent that went to work while the other took care of the kids.

[enough]

27. I agree, jp11. My OP was meant to be tinged with irony, but not exactly sarcasm.

I consider the "no tougher job on earth than being a Mom" phrase to be one of those meaningless platitudes that gets spouted by politicians and other bullshitters (and even Barak Obama when he says it). My post was only to say that if that cliche is true, then it must be even harder to be a Mom with a job.

I also agree with everyone on the thread who has pointed out that there are many many common situations that can be harder than being a working mom.

[alarimer]

29. Not so hard if you have millions

And can afford staff to care for those kids and clean your house.

[RainDog]

30. k&r n/t

[Octafish]

33. Amen.

Thank you, enough!

[Honeycombe8]

35. That's right! nt