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Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:45 PM

 

Glenn Greenwald: his media army of Libertarian disruptors

Another Glenn Greenwald eruption, and more howls of outrage from the Liberterian Purity Left when we real Democrats stop Greenwald COLD with our version of the TRUTH!

But did you know that these Homeland-hatin' LibSymps are even embedded deeply within our media?

Knowledge is power, people! KNOW YOUR ENEMY!

Look, with your own eyes, see what these so-called "Democrats" in our very own media have to say about the most hard-core Libertarian on Earth today:

"Glenn Greenwald is not just the American Left's most fearless political commentator; his fearlessness is such that he has shifted the expectations for everyone else, too. His rock-ribbed principles and absolute disregard for partisan favor have made U.S. political discourse edgier, more confrontational, and much much better."
- Rachel Maddow

"The first thing I do when I turn on the computer in the morning is go to Glenn Greenwald's blog to see what he said. He is truly one of our greatest writers right now."
- Michael Moore

"The most important voice to have entered the political discourse in years."
- Bill Moyers

Do we really need to hear any more of this? I think we all know what's going on.

Regards,

[strike]Al-Qaeda[/strike] [strike]ISIS[/strike] Khorasan-is-the-most-dangerous-danger-ever Manny

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:47 PM

1. I'm curious about Glenn Greenwald's fireworks show that he promised

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024947685

GREENWALD: "There's a story from the beginning-I thought would be our biggest- & I'm saving that"

Q: How much more is there to release—and what burden do you feel to get it out there?
Greenwald: We published the first article while I was in Hong Kong last June and won't stop until we're done.

I think we will end the big stories in about three months or so . I like to think of it as a fireworks show: You want to save your best for last. There's a story that from the beginning I thought would be our biggest, and I'm saving that. The last one is the one where the sky is all covered in spectacular multicolored hues. This will be the finale, a big missing piece. Snowden knows about it and is excited about it.



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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:10 PM

11. Don't hold your breath

Funny how his worshipers here won't comment on this!

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:40 PM

25. Waiting~

I think we will end the big stories in about three months or so . I like to think of it as a fireworks show: You want to save your best for last. There's a story that from the beginning I thought would be our biggest, and I'm saving that. The last one is the one where the sky is all covered in spectacular multicolored hues. This will be the finale, a big missing piece. Snowden knows about it and is excited about it.



I have my popcorn too Andy. Waiting and will share a front row seat with you!



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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #25)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:29 PM

48. Better get the king size bag

This will be a long, long wait. Funny why the Greenwald fan club just ignores such things.

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #48)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:34 PM

50. Funny...yes.

just stir the pot see what rises. Some things get stuck to the bottom of the pot and stay there. Hmmm. Yes indeed.

I ordered several king size bags Andy.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #50)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 05:16 PM

153. So Your Inferring We Are Scum?

 

NSA has that reserved. They are just another tool of the drug war...the biggest abomination this country has seen since slavery. I too am impatiently waiting on Glenn...but unlike you and your friend here I'm hoping he succeeds in producing something newsworthy instead of rooting for his demise because I agree with him that intelligence agencies replacing representative government in terms of power, control and deciding our destiny is beyond disgusting.

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #11)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 05:11 PM

152. Worshippers?

 

Getting sick of your hyperbole. He's done more for us than any commenter on this site.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:16 PM

14. Three months or so....

Glen posted that in May...wow.



K~ I am ready, we are going on 4 months now. It is going to break any day now!



"The last one is the one where the sky is all covered in spectacular multicolored hues. This will be the finale, a big missing piece. Snowden knows about it and is excited about it."

His life has been a tapestry of rich embroidered hues



Thank you Cali_Democrat, damn I needed a laugh tonight.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:20 PM

17. ohboyOhboyOhboyOhboyOhboyOhboyOhboyOhboyOhboyOhboyOhboyOhboy!

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:25 PM

20. Probably on the same day that war breaks out between Australia & Indonesia.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:40 PM

24. Aww, cheer up!

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #24)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:26 PM

46. Typical

No real response, but then I guess you just can't explain it, can you Manny? We will keep waiting.

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #46)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:39 PM

52. It's not my job.

 

But if you do an Internet search, you'll find out what Greenwald said happened.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #52)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:32 AM

134. he accidentally locked himself in his closet again?

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:50 PM

2. They are on this very forum!

 

Read it here first on the DU!

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Response to Rex (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:46 PM

28. I'm afraid to open my sock drawer!

 

I think I heard something in there. Something Libertarian.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:51 PM

3. Manny... You Are Golden...

 








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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:52 PM

4. I still think 'Khorasan Group' sounds like an investment firm

DURec

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:19 PM

16. I think of Kim what's her name

 

when I hear/read it....then I say to myself, what the heck has that media spotlight lover thunk up this time.

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Response to Caretha (Reply #16)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:06 AM

111. For some reason I thought of an old Carole King song...

Damn I hope Carole isn't being subversive up there in Idaho!!


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Response to BuelahWitch (Reply #111)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:43 AM

128. I get this ear worm...

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Response to Caretha (Reply #16)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 05:28 PM

155. So do I, but then what do I know? I thought ISIS/ISIL was good for another year or so. n/t

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:31 PM

49. You mean real terrorists? If we were invading to drone some bankers I might get behind this, but

Isisileda seems not too scary to me.

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:40 PM

54. You may be closer than you think!


Hmm.

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:23 PM

80. It's sounds to me like...

... "a bunch of girlfriends."

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:03 PM

138. The way it is pronounced, it sounds like the Spanish word for heart, corazon.

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:39 PM

172. Prolly is for the Pentagon.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:53 PM

5. Ad Hominem attack WIN :)

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:55 PM

6. I'm not ad hominem myself

 

Last edited Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:52 PM - Edit history (1)

But I have good friends who are, and that's OK. Nothing wrong with it, these days.

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:45 PM

104. Do you know what "ad hominem" means? Just sayin" nm

 

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #104)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:21 PM

161. Something about grits???

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:56 PM

7. +1 n/t

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:58 PM

8. If you are worried that you've never heard of Khorasan before, don't be. Neither has the UN

Nowhere does the organization show up on their AQ terrorist list.

http://www.un.org/sc/committees/1267/pdf/AQList.pdf

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:06 PM

9. That's what's so terrifying!

 

They can lie dormant, invisible for years... for decades... even forever and we won't know it.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:48 PM

29. Yeah, they really should have filed the correct form with the UN.

I know all the real terrorist cells make sure to announce their existence and their location to the UN.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #29)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:13 PM

71. I was told by another DUer (a prolific and well-respected one) that the UN has had

them on their AQ terror watch list for 10 years and that even Alwaki was a Khorasan.

If you look at the list that I posted the link to, you will see that there are many names and groups and their affiliations. Khorasan does not appear anywhere on the list.

She also suggested to google her user name and Khorasan for much more information, which I did. There was nothing.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #71)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:07 AM

117. And my point was that such as list is inherently incomplete

and not being on such a list doesn't prove a thing.

It takes moments to create a new "terror" group. It takes years for the bureaucracy to add a group to their list.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #71)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:07 AM

125. Absolutely--every known member of Khorasan is (or was) on that list.

 

A basic understanding of ME culture might help you to understand what you are searching for.

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #125)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:10 PM

159. Or...

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:07 PM

10. We must rely on trusted, and trustworthy, institutions like the NSA and CIA and wave flags.

 

After all, look how well they've protected us by being "patriots under a lot of pressure" and doing patriotic things like assassinations, spying on everyone, torture, supporting very nice terrorists, supplying people with drugs, making deals with the Mafia, and generally being real humanitarians.

Oh, and telling us the "least untruthful" truth.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:14 PM

12. YAY!!!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:15 PM

13. Glenn Greenwald is an abomination! He is an offense against Nature!


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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:18 PM

15. I'm afraid!

Will taking away my pension and another constitutional amendment help?!

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #15)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:23 PM

19. why yes it will!!!!

hand over the UI, education, and food stamps too. thanks for making it easier to fund endless war

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Response to noiretextatique (Reply #19)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:58 PM

61. Thank you, kind voice on the internets! Please, please take my net neutrality, too.

Remembering history confuses me. I just need someone to trust.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:21 PM

18. I read it on DU that Greenwald is worse than Rush Limpballs.

Now how much worse can it get?

Man o man do some people think we are stupid.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:31 PM

22. I read it on DU that Obama=Bush!

Now how much worse can that get?

Man o man do some people think we are stupid?

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #22)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:43 PM

26. Hardly an equivalency.

Obama has continued the Bush policies and improved on some of them like drone strikes so there is an argument to be made.
When has Greenwald done anything close to limpballs?...they are not even in the same line of work like Obama and Bush.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #26)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:49 PM

30. Hardly an equivalency?

When has Greenwald done anything close to limpballs?...they are not even in the same line of work like Obama and Bush.


First, Greenwald and Rush are both mouthpieces for the GOP.Yes they are in the same line of work.

Sure, hold that close Obama=Bush. Got it!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #30)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:59 PM

33. Mouthpieces for the GOP?

You mean like the mob mouthpiece?...I am not familiar with that occupation other than the mob one...but it does have that dark sound to it.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #33)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:06 PM

36. Okay, I will explain.

"mouthpieces for the GOP= Spouting RW talking points and RW agenda. Sorry that you did not understand that.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #33)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:14 PM

40. You need to get with the program, zeemike.



We have always been at war with the RIGHT WING AGENDA of *opposing* bombing Syria and *opposing* preemptive wars of choice!

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #40)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:17 PM

42. Well OK but

Please no rat cage on the face.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #42)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:43 PM

55. The MIC loves you.

You love the MIC.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #22)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:45 PM

27. Greenwald wants Rand Paul to be President.

So, that's how bad it can get!!

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #27)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:03 PM

35. Snort~



But but but, he is a hero...they both are.

I got the dream ticket for 2016!!! Paul and Greenwald! Yes they can't.



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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #27)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:48 PM

106. Please back that up with a link. And does Sid give you extra points if you use

 

his ridicule emoticon? Just wondering.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #106)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:19 AM

121. I put the :rofl: in adblock

Try it.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #22)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:46 PM

105. I think TPTB think we are stupid enough to elect another conservative Democrat that

 

will worship Wall Street.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:15 PM

41. Greenwald is a cynical Libertarian oppurtunist masquerading as a liberal truth-teller

 

So in that sense, he is worse than Limbaugh, because a lot of people on sites like DU actually listen to him.

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Response to YoungDemCA (Reply #41)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:26 PM

47. I take it you know him well then.

But the truth has no political identity...it is not liberal or libertarian it is just the truth.
And when the truth hurts, and unravels your perspective of how things were, we lash out at the teller...and want to cast them as the problem.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #47)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:46 PM

92. "The further a society drifts from the truth,

... the more it will hate those that speak it." ~~George Orwell

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Response to zeemike (Reply #47)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:19 PM

146. 'truth' can also be distorted...and, it is.....every day.

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Response to YoungDemCA (Reply #41)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:28 PM

81. What a hack! He's even a bad Libertarian!



In the DU outrage thesaurus, the word "socialist" is a synonym for "libertarian" apparently.

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #81)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:42 PM

87. Thank God my wife wasn't sleeping this time.

 



Almost woke our son, though.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #87)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:00 PM

136. Hah! Good idea to stay out of the doghouse with Mrs. Manny!



&t=0m33s

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #81)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:00 PM

100. It's a RUSE!


It's like when Hillary pretended to admire Kissinger!



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Response to woo me with science (Reply #100)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:51 PM

164. Every time I see Hillary nuzzling up to Henry K I get that feeling like I'm going to puke. eom

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #81)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:41 PM

139. Yeah, I was wondering why people were calling him a right-wing libertarian.

From what I know, he's a left-wing libertarian - which is a world of difference. I remember him speaking at a socialism conference a year or two ago when he was introduced by Jeremy Scahill.

I was really confused by the GG hating threads, to say the least.

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #81)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:48 PM

143. there is a close-minded small but loud cabal on DU

that cannot squeeze into their tiny closed off minds the concept of an "open mind". If a reporter is not lock-step in line with the DLC and Obama he's an enemy. Greenwald is open to ideas from all corners of the politicsphere. I wish more so called journalists would be more nondenominational.

So, in predictable reactionary fashion, this pathetic lump of sock puppets, glob onto any story that they can paint GG into their own little corner. Because.....gasp....there have found one issue that GG has written that both he and some right wing mouth pieces agree with.

If they weren't so hypocritical they'd also say the following:

End the wasteful war on pot?....but but but Ron Paul agrees so ...throw those pot heads in the slammer!

End wars of aggression overseas?....but but but Ron Paul agrees so....bomb bomb bomb Iran

Because if the federal government and the MIC proclaims a new threat to the homeland, even though the UN hasn't even heard of them?.....ah...the Republicans are pouncing on this?.....boo Leave Obama Alone!!!!

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #143)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:30 PM

150. I call it "The call to stupid," and it's deliberate from the corporate narrative shapers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3652892

Yup. It's the Call to Stupid.

The incessant bullying to think like a stupid person.

We hate Ron Paul; therefore, if he is against bombing we should be for it.

We hate Glenn Greenwald; therefore, NSA spying is unimportant.


We are to blindly pick a side and wave our flags, STUPIDLY, belligerently, defiantly
ignoring any and all moral, ethical, and intellectual complexities.


We are incessantly bullied to think STUPIDLY, because STUPID THINKING lets corporate thieves and warmongers off the hook.

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Response to RufusTFirefly (Reply #81)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 05:18 PM

154. The "Greenwald's a libertarian" lie is a pretty good sign that his opponents have thrown out either

their honesty or their grasp of reality. The guy is for universal healthcare, publicly funded elections, protecting social security, prosecuting corrupt bankers, says Elizabeth Warren is good on domestic issues and speaks at socialist conferences. Yet any thread about him will have multiple people calling him a libertarian.

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Response to Chathamization (Reply #154)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 05:45 PM

157. Refuting this absurd accusation typically sucks the oxygen out of an argument.

Which, presumably, is the goal of a dedicated distractivist.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:29 PM

21. Thank goodness we have courageous voices here


to defend the beleaguered NSA, the struggling global banks and corporations, the quivering and impoverished government of the United States, and the trembling MIC against the Massive, Orchestrated Juggernaut of Propaganda being wielded against them by....poor Americans, Glenn Greenwald...um...

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #21)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:53 PM

31. Non paid voices at that! Just think, what good people they are for volunteering their

 

time to such a worthy cause. Poor MIC/NSA/CIA/ABCDEFG.

Woo stop picking on Big Brother! Don't you know he has feeling too (read it first on the DU)!

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #21)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:43 PM

140. Go back to bed, America. Your government is in control again. - Bill Hicks

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:36 PM

23. well, a target for their indefensibility-generated frustrations must be found and maintained.

 

he's nothing but a distraction used for the same reasons we use to hear and read about little missing blonde girls -- something to get worked up over instead of the things they should be.

It's pretty stinking bad when the thoughts/opinions (regarding the "imminence" charade) of GG become more important than the bombing deaths of innocent civilians in a country that didn't ask for it and can't be morally and legally justified. In defense of the indefensible, priorities get shuffled as necessary, and pragmatism gets stretched to the point where claims of principals ring hollow or are rendered meaningless.

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Response to stupidicus (Reply #23)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:56 PM

32. GOLDSTEIN!!!!!11!1

The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part, but that it was impossible to avoid joining in. Within thirty seconds any pretence was always unnecessary. A hideous ecstasy of fear and vindictiveness, a desire to kill, to torture, to smash faces in with a sledge hammer, seemed to flow through the whole group of people like an electric current, turning one even against one's will into a grimacing, screaming lunatic. And yet the rage that one felt was an abstract, undirected emotion which could be switched from one object to another like the flame of a blowlamp.


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Response to woo me with science (Reply #32)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:11 PM

38. Ah... my life on DU

 

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #32)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 05:29 PM

156. excellent woo

 

they resemble that remark

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:00 PM

34. Lying by reporters is wrong, no matter what else is in their work.

Greenwald posted a lengthy story claiming that the US justified airstrikes on Syria as an attack on the Khorasan group.

This is not true. The US government justified the attacks as an attack on ISIS. The Khorasan group was a target of opportunity after they started bombing ISIS.

The problem is Greenwald's story goes on to question whether the Khorasan group existed at all, so that he could tell a story of the US inventing the group out of whole cloth to start bombing Syria under false pretenses. But the core of his story, Khorasan as justification, is not true.

Lying by reporters is wrong. No matter what else they have done in their reporting.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:10 PM

37. "most fearless political commentator"??? Then WHY has he fled to Brazil?

I know why he SAYS he fled, but that argument no longer holds water.

Fearless my ass.

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Response to George II (Reply #37)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:21 PM

44. He didn't flee, he moved

 

Still visits the US.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #44)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:54 PM

59. Do some research.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #63)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:07 PM

65. He wasn't arrested or subpoenaed, was he?

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Response to George II (Reply #65)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:12 PM

69. No.

 

So...?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #69)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:15 PM

72. According to the article you provided, that was the reason why he didn't travel to the US for a year

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Response to George II (Reply #72)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:19 PM

75. Because he feared that he might be arrested, etc.

 

So what's your point?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #75)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:21 AM

131. His "excuse" for not living here has become a moot point:


http://www.out.com/news-commentary/2011/04/18/glenn-greenwald-life-beyond-borders?page=0,0

"Brazil recognizes our relationship for immigration purposes, while the government of my supposedly 'free,' liberty-loving country enacted a law explicitly barring such recognition," says Greenwald, referring to the Defense of Marriage Act with the disdain he typically shows for policies he believes are eroding Americans' freedoms.

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Response to George II (Reply #131)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:26 AM

132. Decades ago, I moved to Massachusetts to take a job.

 

I'm still here, despite leaving that job quite a while ago.

Would you characterize me as staying here despite my "excuse" for moving here being a moot point? Or maybe that I found I like living here?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #132)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:32 AM

133. Did you need a visa or passport and processing at the border to move there?

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Response to George II (Reply #133)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:46 AM

135. No.

 

So?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #135)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:03 PM

137. the prosecution rests..

guilty as charged, sir.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #135)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:24 PM

149. I'll play this childish game for one more round....

...you were in the US, you didn't decide to NOT move based on some law that has been struck down in the courts.

Next?

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Response to George II (Reply #149)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:12 PM

160. Has Greenwald said that he won't move back because of

 

a law that doesn't exist?

I'm getting confused now, I think. (Yes, I know, not hard to do.)

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #160)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:38 PM

162. He said he would not move back because of fear of being prosecuted under DOMA.

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Response to George II (Reply #162)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:44 PM

163. He said that recently?

 

Link?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #163)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:55 PM

165. Not recently. As I've said earlier, his "excuse" has become a moot point.

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Response to George II (Reply #165)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:55 PM

171. Sorry, your point totally escapes me.

 

Perhaps willful ignorance on my part, but I'm not sure how what he's done is evidence of cowardice. I will grant you, however, that his living in the US would be evidence of even-greater bravery.

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Response to George II (Reply #72)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:19 PM

77. On advice of his lawyers who had been trying to secure assurances from State and the DOJ

that he would not be detained and/or arrested. It is a reasonable request given the number of people in government have who advocated for his arrest.

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Response to George II (Reply #37)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:36 PM

51. I thought his S.O. was from Brazil. Might explain a move, but I might be wrong as well.

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #51)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:54 PM

58. His claim is that the reason he lives in Brazil is because he doesn't want to be subject....

....to prosecution under DOMA. Of course, that's no longer an issue but he is "fearlessly" still there.

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Response to George II (Reply #58)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:00 PM

62. He made a life for himself, his husband, and his 11 dogs for 8 years before DOMA

was repealed. What would be the point of moving back?

And he didn't move because he would be prosecuted under DOMA. He moved because David, his husband, would be unable to move here with him.

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #51)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:16 PM

73. You are correct and for the most part of the 10 years they have been together, unable

to reside anywhere in the U.S. because he would be unable to secure residency via marriage because marriage equality was illegal.

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Response to George II (Reply #37)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 06:08 AM

113. HE HATES AMERICA!!!!11!!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:14 PM

39. Yeah, but how does he stack up against

 

Jeff Gannon? Don't anybody tell me, I don't really want to know.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:18 PM

43. It doesn't matter if they are real or imagined.

 

Their threat is entirely imagined, as is Isosceles and Altoona.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:25 PM

45. Kick for pissing off the same 8-10 minions

and their sock drawer.

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Response to bobduca (Reply #45)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:47 PM

56. ...

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #56)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:48 PM

57. here's someone from my ignore list now!

Amazing how it's like i summoned you with my post!

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Response to bobduca (Reply #57)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:58 PM

60. How can I be on your ignore list and that you can read what I post?

I don't do ignore, so I have no clue how it works. Please explain.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #60)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:05 PM

64. When you believe you are very important

you log out so you can see if anyone on your ignore list replied. Then you can temporarily un-ignore them so you can prove just how important you are.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #64)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:11 PM

67. Thanks Jeff! It sure seems like a lot of senseless work to me.

To each their own I guess.



Luv ya~

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #67)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:17 PM

74. And he's got the routine down pat, huh?

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Response to George II (Reply #74)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:23 PM

79. That would be a yes, George II.

It's

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #64)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:11 PM

68. I wondered how that worked

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #64)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:13 PM

70. Edit

The sig line miraculously changed after I made this comment. It's gone from "Did you know you can respond to people on ignore?" to something deep and profound about war.

Some of these folks around here...

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Response to Number23 (Reply #70)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:42 PM

88. Oh for you little friend, i changed it back.

because emoticons and Greenwaldarglebargle

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Response to bobduca (Reply #88)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:47 PM

94. Doesn't make me a bit of difference what you put in your sig, sugar

Astonished that you seem to believe otherwise.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #94)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:52 PM

98. "Doesn't make me a bit of difference"

said the person who just edited their post and added 25 err no on edit 6 emoticons to the post.


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Response to bobduca (Reply #98)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:55 PM

99. Edited only to show how absurd your own edit was. Which I clearly stated



You should make that your avatar. Or the "incognito" thing you keep burning calories using to show people here how much you don't care about what they're posting after you put them on ignore.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #64)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:20 PM

78. Don't need to un-ignore to reply

Just need to copy the reply link from an incognito session, and paste it into a logged in session.

I was locked out of the other thread with other folks posting the same incorrect claims about what you can and can't do with posters on your ignore list.

I don't think I'm important, my visits to incognito reinforce how correct I am to ignore the lot of you.

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Response to bobduca (Reply #78)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:28 PM

82. I was going to let them in on the method but it was too much fun watching the high fives

when really, they should have been doing no such thing.

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Response to bobduca (Reply #78)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:46 PM

91. How is it that you don't realize that by going through all of that

You are NOT IGNORING those people??? If anything, you are giving them MORE of your attention than you would regular users!

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Response to Number23 (Reply #91)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:49 PM

95. Pssst

don't be mad you made the list too!

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Response to bobduca (Reply #95)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:51 PM

96. Judging by the quality of your posts, that's the nicest thing you could have ever said to me

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Response to Number23 (Reply #96)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:10 AM

108. this whole thing is hilarious

some seem to view the ignore function as something more than it is. i said before some view posting on this site as activism.

so they view the ignore as something they can use to attack others with and go through the whole process of logging in/out to see what they are actually saying.

and of course the whole result is not only NOT ignoring the person but actually using IGNORE to give them MORE ATTENTION.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #108)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:12 AM

118. And when called on it, they insist they don't care.

Which is why they work so hard to read what the people they ignore say.

You just need to forget about details like "logic".

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Response to bobduca (Reply #78)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:14 AM

120. There's more than one way to un-ignore. Incognito is one of them.

Incognito is just another way to logout, and thus un-ignore.

I don't think I'm important, my visits to incognito reinforce how correct I am to ignore the lot of you.

Which is why you go through extra steps to emphasize just how much you are ignoring.

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Response to bobduca (Reply #57)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:10 PM

66. ROFL !

Like magic!



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Response to Post removed (Reply #76)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:42 PM

89. alerted on fyi

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #66)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:30 PM

84. Lol

and they brought their little friends too!

Don't worry little friends, you are all special too! There's room on my ignore list for all of you!


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Response to bobduca (Reply #84)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:51 PM

97. Now, now. It's important to notice all the CONSENSUS.

What good is all that effort, if you won't notice?




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Response to woo me with science (Reply #97)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 06:24 AM

114. I lol'd



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Response to woo me with science (Reply #66)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:33 PM

85. You and Bob are a gif~

That keeps on giving.

I see you~



I needed a laugh, thanks!



Damn you guys are funny!



Hey your post~

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #56)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:19 PM

102. You seem pissed off.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #56)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:56 PM

107. I know!!!!!11!1

Last edited Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:54 AM - Edit history (1)

How SHOCKING and UNREALISTIC to even imagine such a thing!!!!11!11!1

http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5237529

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #107)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 03:01 PM

147. Oh snap!

Too funny.

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Response to bobduca (Reply #45)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:44 PM

90. Hail to their sock drawer(s)!

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Response to bobduca (Reply #45)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:07 PM

101. They never fail to pop up.

Of course once they do, they fail in other ways.

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Response to bobduca (Reply #45)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:07 AM

116. +1,000

 

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Response to bobduca (Reply #45)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:57 PM

166. LOL!

 

So true.

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Response to bobduca (Reply #45)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:51 PM

173. +1,001

The swarm is not amused

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Response to bobduca (Reply #45)

Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:47 AM

174. +100 nt

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:28 PM

83. K&R

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:46 PM

93. And he's gay and has boxes in his garage

 

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #93)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:17 AM

127. You forgot his narcissism, and the outrage of wanting to be paid for his work.

 

Frankly I'm shocked its taken so long to ensure DU is reminded of the entirety of his sins. I see the Libertarian/Rand Paul info got out there early in the thread thank Gawd, but its IMPERATIVE all the talking points are hit!

Good work Doctor!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:21 PM

103. Isn't Khorasan something that they make kitchen counters, cutting boards out of?

Are they letting DuPont choose the names for our-most-terrifying-enemy-ever, now?

Upon googling, I can see that it was actually an historical region, so there's another very nice-sounding word that our terror-trackers have chosen to sully. It's bad enough that they turned a goddess into something the NSA gleefully added to their top-secret Internet watch list, but "come to the Sun"? Guess I better be careful posting my favorite Beatles tune, eh?

Super duper encoded message for Agent Mike:




An artifact lost forever in Amerikan Googleland...Isis





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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:03 AM

109. But Rachel, Michael and Bill just hate Obama.

 

Why else would they agree with someone who is opposed to his war of choice?

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #109)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 03:10 AM

110. They're clearly racists.

Libertarian racists.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:20 AM

112. Kicked and recommended!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 06:24 AM

115. I agree with Maddow, Moyer's and Moore

Last edited Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:28 AM - Edit history (1)

They are correct: Greenwald is far and away the most significant American journalist today. No doubt in my mind on that.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:13 AM

119. "Khorasan-is-the-most-dangerous-danger-ever Manny"

 

I peed.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #119)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:38 AM

122. See?

 

If they can do that to you from 5,000 miles away, just think of what they'll do to you when Putin parachutes them down onto your front porch.

Unspeakable danger. Seriously unspeakable.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:39 AM

123. Rush Limbaugh agrees with Greenwald. Or, they are both using the same script.

 

How adorable.

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Response to LawDeeDah (Reply #123)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:46 PM

141. For completeness, you should also smear Murtaza Hussein who co-wrote the article.

 

I mean, when you're posting absolutely stupid garbage you should go all in and insult as many as possible.

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #141)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:55 PM

144. That's a new minion -

still learning. Giv'em a break ...

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Response to TBF (Reply #144)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:17 PM

145. Do they realized how ridiculous they look, posting that nonsense?

 

I assume that they do, but are just following orders.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 09:49 AM

124. You FORCED my hand. K&R - n/t

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:08 AM

126. But a couple times he's gotten some of the little details wrong!

See, Obama's mouthpiece said that we decided to attack Khorasan because we worried that the other airstrikes in Syria would cause them to flee if we waited. Greenwald said that the U.S. only mentioned Khorasan because we needed an excuse to strike in Syria!

Clearly everything Greenwald says is TOTALLY BOGUS! How can we trust someone who does not repeat and agree with whatever the latest general or "security expert" says?!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:06 AM

129. When are we going to go back to fighting the Taliban?

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:07 AM

130. I'm still afraid.


I don't need infrastructure! Will someone protect me?

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #130)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:48 PM

142. Dear Leader will. You just need to believe! [n/t]

 

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #130)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 05:56 PM

158. Yes! I am here with a year's supply of peas!

Because we must now eat our peas so we can pay for this glorious war! We can use what's left over to fling at the terrorists as they land in our back yards.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:12 PM

148. GG is one of the few honest reporters left around.

He is a real hero, especially given the climate in which he has to operate.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:43 PM

151. Cowards

 

The usual suspects on the Greenwald = <insert GOP Boogeyman here>thread appear and fling their inane distracting BS.

But they lack the courage to face the OP of this thread.

Come on, show you really believe the bullshit you fling and answer the issue of whether these icons of progressive thought who support Greenwald are also the equivalent of Rush Limbaugh, et al.

Yeah. I thought so.

I have tools in my car with more integrity.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:07 PM

167. At the end of the day they're all entertainers

plying their trade on screens large and small. I don't have cable so can't speak to Rachel other than that she works for NBC and seemed to think Obama lost his first debate with Romney in 2012. That was the one where Romney got caught cheating on camera. Moyers I recall from happier PBS days as even more bland and boring than Jim Lehrer. Moore has recently shown himself to be completely ignorant of all political processes and yet he's the only one of the bunch who seems to realize that Greenwald is a blogger, not a reporter.

Sorry, not impressed.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:17 PM

168. Khorasan is backwards spelling of NASA ROHKs, a terrorist group of astronomer head bangers.

That's why you haven't heard of them before. Very smart dudes. But that's what makes them so dangerous.

Telescopes or high energy plasma weapons of mass destruction aimed at the Homeland?

Clearly we must not take any chances with these existential threats to our Democracy's survival.


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Response to whereisjustice (Reply #168)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:21 PM

169. Many of them are known to have worked with and have knowledge of Al Gebra, as well

 

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #169)

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:39 PM

170. Patriot, you are well informed. In the photo, you'll notice the use of aluminum tubes....

what other evidence do we need? All of humanity is at stake. Right now, our brave Congressional leaders have left Washington to meet deep inside a secret bunker to plan our post-apocalypse government.

Pray for us. May god bless the USA.

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