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Snake Alchemist

(3,318 posts)
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 06:48 PM Apr 2012

Obama paid a lower tax rate than his secretary, White House confirms

President Barack Obama's secretary paid taxes at a higher rate than he did in 2011 despite having a "substantially lower income," the White House said Friday, casting the disparity as an argument for Congress to adopt the so-called "Buffett Rule."

"The president's secretary pays a slightly higher rate this year than the president on her substantially lower income, which is exactly why we need to reform our tax code and ask the wealthiest to pay their fair share," Amy Brundage, a White House spokeswoman, told Yahoo News by email.

Obama on Friday released his 2011 tax filings, showing that he paid $162,074 in total taxes on adjusted gross income of $789,674, an effective rate of 20.5 percent. The first couple paid $31,941 in Illinois income tax. Obama's secretary, Anita Decker Breckenridge, made $95,000 in 2011, according to the White House's public report on pay in the West Wing.

The president has been making the case for the Buffett Rule legislation that would raise taxes on the very richest Americans in order to ensure they do not pay a lower rate than middle-class filers. Obama has used the measure as a political cudgel to assault Mitt Romney, who has dismissed the proposal as a campaign gimmick. The Buffett Rule is named after billionaire financier Warren Buffett, who has said that he pays a lower effective tax rate than his secretary. Legislation to enact it faces a vote in the Democratic-held Senate on Monday. It is expected to fail, but even if it succeeds it is sure to die in the Republican-led House of Representatives.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-paid-lower-tax-rate-secretary-white-house-192756522.html

Good argument for the Buffet rule. I wish I could figure out how to pay a rate close to 20.5%.

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Obama paid a lower tax rate than his secretary, White House confirms (Original Post) Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 OP
I wonder if he did it through investment income or charitable giving. dkf Apr 2012 #1
Social Security Cap jberryhill Apr 2012 #4
Most don't include FICA in what's quoted as the effective tax rate Major Nikon Apr 2012 #12
Good point customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #10
Yeah it would be funny if the disparity is due to the average persons lack of charitable giving. dkf Apr 2012 #14
People who make a lot customerserviceguy Apr 2012 #15
Mitt Romney may have paid less tax than his lawn care workers? Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #2
Actually his lawn workers likely paid no taxes at all. former9thward Apr 2012 #6
and with all the loopholes I expect Romney will get a refund Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #8
No ... No ... No ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #3
agree, except not necessarily true with property taxes nt ctaylors6 Apr 2012 #5
Probably several ways to pay less LiberalFighter Apr 2012 #7
99%! zorahopkins Apr 2012 #9
The Secretary of State? itsrobert Apr 2012 #11
Read the full return. bluestate10 Apr 2012 #13

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
12. Most don't include FICA in what's quoted as the effective tax rate
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:07 PM
Apr 2012

If so, Obama's secretary would have an effective tax rate that's much closer, if not beyond, what he paid.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
10. Good point
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:03 PM
Apr 2012

The Obamas gave about a quarter of their income in charitable contributions. If the President's office workers had done similarly, then we'd have a fair comparison to make.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
15. People who make a lot
Sat Apr 14, 2012, 12:48 PM
Apr 2012

can afford to give a lot, folks who make less often have less to share with tax-recognized charities.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
6. Actually his lawn workers likely paid no taxes at all.
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:00 PM
Apr 2012

It says they were paid in cash. The odds they reported any of it are about zero.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. No ... No ... No ...
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 07:00 PM
Apr 2012
Obama on Friday released his 2011 tax filings, showing that he paid $162,074 in total taxes on adjusted gross income of $789,674, an effective rate of 20.5 percent.


No ... he paid that much in total FEDERAL taxes. If we were to compute the tax rate of any high earner and compare it to that of moderate or lower earners, the disparity would be much, much greater.

For example, while everyone pays X% in sales tax and Y% in property tax and Z% in payroll taxes (up to ~$103K, then the higher earner pays no addition taxes), adding these other taxes has the effect of lowering the higher earners' rate and raising the lower earners' rate.

LiberalFighter

(50,888 posts)
7. Probably several ways to pay less
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:18 PM
Apr 2012

Make less income
Don't have income that is taxed at the progressive rates. Dividends and capital gains.
Have more children which means more tax exemptions.
Be able to itemized deductions.
Don't report all income.

zorahopkins

(1,320 posts)
9. 99%!
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 08:27 PM
Apr 2012

Tax the rich bastards at a rate of 99%!

I don't want the rich to pay the same rate that I do!

I want them to pay more.

Much, much more.

Tax the 1% at a rate of 99%!

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
13. Read the full return.
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:28 PM
Apr 2012

A person can reduce their tax rate by donating large sums of money to charity. Read the full return, with all deductions accounted for.

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