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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:43 PM Oct 2014

Breaking: Guilty Verdict reached in Michael Dunn retrial

He already faces likely 60 years for the guilty verdicts related to 2nd degree attempted murder of the other passengers but there was a mistrial in the charge of 1st degree in the death of 17 year old Jordan Davis who died in the attack. Dunn says he was defending himself from a weapon, but everyone else says the drunk had yelled at Davis for loud music that was coming from the SUV. Dunn fled the scene and was arrested the next day.

a 1st degree murder conviction = life sentence
a 2nd degree murder conviction = 30 years to life
manslaughter conviction = 30 years to life for use of a firearm

These are in addition to the 60 years he faces (he hasn't been sentenced yet for the previous convictions of attempted murder on the other passengers of the SUV).


http://jacksonville.com/files/interactives/dunnretrial/?utm_content=buffer40f48&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer




The fucker will die of old age in prison. Finally justice is served for Jordan Davis

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Breaking: Guilty Verdict reached in Michael Dunn retrial (Original Post) NightWatcher Oct 2014 OP
Guilty of 1st degree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NightWatcher Oct 2014 #1
wow - did not expect that DrDan Oct 2014 #4
No surprise. But I was born & raised in Florida. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #29
been a Florida resident for 32 years DrDan Oct 2014 #32
A study of SYG defense cases done in the wake of Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #34
it takes only one jurist to stymie a decision DrDan Oct 2014 #44
Justice at last malaise Oct 2014 #14
they sure were not out very long DrDan Oct 2014 #2
YAY!! MoonRiver Oct 2014 #3
Guilty. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2014 #5
Most M1 convictions are based on malice aforethought and Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #35
I suggest he be forced to listen to that same music for the rest of his life. malthaussen Oct 2014 #6
Cruel, certainly. Unusual? Maybe not so much any more. nt tblue37 Oct 2014 #9
With his predominately black jailmates rocktivity Oct 2014 #20
Justice for Jordan. May his family find peace. nt geek tragedy Oct 2014 #7
+1,000! etherealtruth Oct 2014 #26
Good. nt msanthrope Oct 2014 #8
Michael DONE! JaneyVee Oct 2014 #10
Good! Finally justice was served... Spazito Oct 2014 #11
Justice long time served madokie Oct 2014 #15
Agreed... Spazito Oct 2014 #16
I was in the Guard. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #21
YES!!! TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #12
K&R pintobean Oct 2014 #13
just another douchbag w/ a gun looking for a reason to use it KG Oct 2014 #17
Smiling through the tears. n/t slumcamper Oct 2014 #18
Twelve jurors with brains plus no media frenzy coverage rocktivity Oct 2014 #19
So relieved! jen63 Oct 2014 #22
Finally....some hope for black people in America. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #23
I hope the ammosexual assholes of the world take note. I wish these types of verdicts valerief Oct 2014 #24
Good news Dopers_Greed Oct 2014 #25
Glad a FL Jury Arrived at a Better Verdict than w/Zimmerman dballance Oct 2014 #27
kick kick kick gollygee Oct 2014 #28
And once again, this verdict was reached Where? Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #30
Stopped-Clock Syndrome. (I keed!) WinkyDink Oct 2014 #38
The Narrative™ must be protected at all costs. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #39
THAT is how paranoid racist gun humpers should be dealt with Skittles Oct 2014 #31
Betcha most of the jurors have guns. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #36
Good. Little Star Oct 2014 #33
Take that, Gun Culture. 99Forever Oct 2014 #37
You want murderers imprisoned, or an entire culture? Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #40
I want the main tools of murder... 99Forever Oct 2014 #45
That's not what you said. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #52
He wasn't convicted of gun culture, he was convicted of murder. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #42
He is s perfect example of gun culture. 99Forever Oct 2014 #46
He wasn't convicted of proving his manhood either. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #47
Do you seriously think I give a damn... 99Forever Oct 2014 #48
Yes, you do care. That's why you keep responding aikoaiko Oct 2014 #49
Nope. 99Forever Oct 2014 #50
An important verdict. Using lethal force must be in the context of reasonable fear. aikoaiko Oct 2014 #41
So how much money did this retrial cost? NobodyHere Oct 2014 #43
I don't know very much about justice, ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #51

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
32. been a Florida resident for 32 years
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:12 AM
Oct 2014

based on support for stand-your-ground and the NRA, I am surprised a jury could be put together that would rule this was a 1st degree incident

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
34. A study of SYG defense cases done in the wake of
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:20 AM
Oct 2014

The Zimmerman/Martin shooting revealed most attempts to use the defense were rejected, and when successfully used (not often), little racial bias was evident. Florida's SYG seems little different from the laws governing self-defense in California, only the latter calls it "no duty to retreat." But political narrative is hard to overcome once the drumbeat & rhythm are established.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
35. Most M1 convictions are based on malice aforethought and
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:36 AM
Oct 2014

evidence of "planning." From what I could discern, this is what hung the first jury on the most severe charge. Jury instruction probably played a role as well. There seemed little doubt this guy was going down on a lesser attempted murder charge, and he did. That was the clue that the first jury wasn't buying Anything about SYG or straight-up self-defense.

Separate note: The "Redneck Capital of the World" was the site of the last true race riot in the U.S. (1960). The Duval County Sheriff from a few years ago recounted his youthful impressions of the riot on NPR. He is black.

malthaussen

(17,186 posts)
6. I suggest he be forced to listen to that same music for the rest of his life.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:51 PM
Oct 2014

But I guess that would fall under "cruel and unusual." Although killing somebody because you don't like his tunes is pretty cruel and unusual, too.

-- Mal

madokie

(51,076 posts)
15. Justice long time served
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:24 PM
Oct 2014

is extra sweet when it does arrive.
this old veteran has no use for a gun of any kind

Spazito

(50,282 posts)
16. Agreed...
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:25 PM
Oct 2014

I've never found the need for a gun of any kind either, feel perfectly safe, even safer, without one.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
21. I was in the Guard.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:44 PM
Oct 2014

I had use for a gun during drills and while practicing or qualifying on the range.

I had no need of a gun any other time.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
12. YES!!!
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 04:06 PM
Oct 2014

I never understood why the first trial didn't come to this conclusion. It was clear as could be.

How long was the jury out for?

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
19. Twelve jurors with brains plus no media frenzy coverage
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:39 PM
Oct 2014

CUE THE VONAGE THEME -- life plus 60 years!


rocktivity

valerief

(53,235 posts)
24. I hope the ammosexual assholes of the world take note. I wish these types of verdicts
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:59 PM
Oct 2014

could apply to trigger-happy cops.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
27. Glad a FL Jury Arrived at a Better Verdict than w/Zimmerman
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:17 PM
Oct 2014

The verdict in the Zimmerman case was ridiculous. I was afraid the verdict in this case would turn out the same way under the asinine "Stand Your Ground" law in FL.

There is no evidence that Davis posed any sort of threat at all to Dunn.

I'm glad the "I was afraid because they were black and had loud music" defense failed.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
30. And once again, this verdict was reached Where?
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 09:50 PM
Oct 2014

Hint: In a state which went for Obama TWICE.

I'm sorry, I didn't hear. Could you answer more Loudly, please? And Clearly.

Now, where was it?

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
37. Take that, Gun Culture.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:53 AM
Oct 2014

May many more of your kind get the justice they deserve, just lkke this murdering scumbag.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
48. Do you seriously think I give a damn...
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:41 PM
Oct 2014

.. how you try to pretend this murderer wasn't just another Gun Culture badass caught and convicted for doing what Gun Culture has taught him is his 2nd Amendment, Gawd given RIGHT here 'Murica?

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
50. Nope.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:13 PM
Oct 2014

I'm just beyond overjoyed to see a product of Gun Culture get his just deserts.

I'm hope he has a wonderful long life and a cellmate with a very bad attitude.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
41. An important verdict. Using lethal force must be in the context of reasonable fear.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 10:27 AM
Oct 2014

Not being angry or unreasonable fear.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
51. I don't know very much about justice,
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:43 PM
Oct 2014

but this will keep a violent person off the street, which makes me happy.

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