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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBreaking: Guilty Verdict reached in Michael Dunn retrial
He already faces likely 60 years for the guilty verdicts related to 2nd degree attempted murder of the other passengers but there was a mistrial in the charge of 1st degree in the death of 17 year old Jordan Davis who died in the attack. Dunn says he was defending himself from a weapon, but everyone else says the drunk had yelled at Davis for loud music that was coming from the SUV. Dunn fled the scene and was arrested the next day.
a 1st degree murder conviction = life sentence
a 2nd degree murder conviction = 30 years to life
manslaughter conviction = 30 years to life for use of a firearm
These are in addition to the 60 years he faces (he hasn't been sentenced yet for the previous convictions of attempted murder on the other passengers of the SUV).
http://jacksonville.com/files/interactives/dunnretrial/?utm_content=buffer40f48&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
The fucker will die of old age in prison. Finally justice is served for Jordan Davis
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)based on support for stand-your-ground and the NRA, I am surprised a jury could be put together that would rule this was a 1st degree incident
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)The Zimmerman/Martin shooting revealed most attempts to use the defense were rejected, and when successfully used (not often), little racial bias was evident. Florida's SYG seems little different from the laws governing self-defense in California, only the latter calls it "no duty to retreat." But political narrative is hard to overcome once the drumbeat & rhythm are established.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)malaise
(268,919 posts)Great news
DrDan
(20,411 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,173 posts)1st Degree.
Why everyone on the first jury didn't come to that logical conclusion, I have no idea.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)evidence of "planning." From what I could discern, this is what hung the first jury on the most severe charge. Jury instruction probably played a role as well. There seemed little doubt this guy was going down on a lesser attempted murder charge, and he did. That was the clue that the first jury wasn't buying Anything about SYG or straight-up self-defense.
Separate note: The "Redneck Capital of the World" was the site of the last true race riot in the U.S. (1960). The Duval County Sheriff from a few years ago recounted his youthful impressions of the riot on NPR. He is black.
malthaussen
(17,186 posts)But I guess that would fall under "cruel and unusual." Although killing somebody because you don't like his tunes is pretty cruel and unusual, too.
-- Mal
tblue37
(65,319 posts)rocktivity
(44,576 posts)I'm pretty sure that's happening already...
rocktivity
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Spazito
(50,282 posts)better late than never.
madokie
(51,076 posts)is extra sweet when it does arrive.
this old veteran has no use for a gun of any kind
Spazito
(50,282 posts)I've never found the need for a gun of any kind either, feel perfectly safe, even safer, without one.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)I had use for a gun during drills and while practicing or qualifying on the range.
I had no need of a gun any other time.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)I never understood why the first trial didn't come to this conclusion. It was clear as could be.
How long was the jury out for?
pintobean
(18,101 posts)KG
(28,751 posts)slumcamper
(1,606 posts)rocktivity
(44,576 posts)CUE THE VONAGE THEME -- life plus 60 years!
rocktivity
jen63
(813 posts)Poor child, terrified and dying without his family. RIP, justice is served.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)could apply to trigger-happy cops.
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)Though this guy would not have been convicted if he were a cop
dballance
(5,756 posts)The verdict in the Zimmerman case was ridiculous. I was afraid the verdict in this case would turn out the same way under the asinine "Stand Your Ground" law in FL.
There is no evidence that Davis posed any sort of threat at all to Dunn.
I'm glad the "I was afraid because they were black and had loud music" defense failed.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)just because I like to see the subject line
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Hint: In a state which went for Obama TWICE.
I'm sorry, I didn't hear. Could you answer more Loudly, please? And Clearly.
Now, where was it?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Skittles
(153,147 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Little Star
(17,055 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)May many more of your kind get the justice they deserve, just lkke this murdering scumbag.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)...kept out of civilized society.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Using a deadly weapon to prove his manhood.
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts).. how you try to pretend this murderer wasn't just another Gun Culture badass caught and convicted for doing what Gun Culture has taught him is his 2nd Amendment, Gawd given RIGHT here 'Murica?
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)I'm just beyond overjoyed to see a product of Gun Culture get his just deserts.
I'm hope he has a wonderful long life and a cellmate with a very bad attitude.
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)Not being angry or unreasonable fear.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)nt
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)but this will keep a violent person off the street, which makes me happy.