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Dammit! If there is no chance of contagion why are they contacting passengers for the Dallas flight (Original Post) boomer55 Oct 2014 OP
They're just trying to take precautions, really. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #1
Who said there was no chance of contagion? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #2
Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, director of the disease centers. boomer55 Oct 2014 #3
And there is an existant possibility that someone may havecome into contact with his bodily fluids Scootaloo Oct 2014 #8
Because the chance is very low but not zero. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #4
They're monitoring everyone he was in the ER waiting room with too. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #5
This stinks. Its a boolean equation. Its either true or false. This is how panic starts when you boomer55 Oct 2014 #6
this is the point that should be ringing ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2014 #17
Have you a link besides the DailyMail? A reputable source? uppityperson Oct 2014 #7
Up to now, Ebola is not known to be contagious until the person develops symptoms. Fridays Child Oct 2014 #9
Of course. It can also mutate so that people who survived it the 1st time, might not survive the 2nd grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #11
'Of course' he says. I wonder, do you live your life in fear that HIV will mutate and become Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #22
It says the AIRLINE is scrambling- not the CDC or other government agency. cali Oct 2014 #10
correct. why are they scrambling when the authorities have assured them and us again and again boomer55 Oct 2014 #12
easy. it's a business/image decision. cali Oct 2014 #14
I'm bookmarking all of your threads on this alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #13
Wonder if they've checked their temperature? FSogol Oct 2014 #18
Is there any information on where or how this man contracted ebola? ALBliberal Oct 2014 #15
yes. detailed information in a NYT piece and other outlets cali Oct 2014 #16
because that's the job of the CDC. Javaman Oct 2014 #19
Concern for customer well-being, corporate image, and probably the most important-- tanyev Oct 2014 #20
this^^^^ it's an abundance of caution on their part. magical thyme Oct 2014 #21
 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
1. They're just trying to take precautions, really.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:49 AM
Oct 2014

Although, to be honest, this certainly isn't a bad idea, given the problems that have developed in West Africa.

 

boomer55

(592 posts)
3. Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, director of the disease centers.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:54 AM
Oct 2014

there is “zero chance” that the patient infected anyone else on the flight, said Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, director of the disease centers. Ebola is spread only by direct contact with body fluids from someone who is ill.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/01/health/airline-passenger-with-ebola-is-under-treatment-in-dallas.html?_r=0

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
8. And there is an existant possibility that someone may havecome into contact with his bodily fluids
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:48 AM
Oct 2014

Somehow, some way.

"Zero chance" is layman's terms. There is no such thing as the number zero in science. There is always something. And when that something is a chance, even a very small one, of a horrible hemorrhagic fever being contracted by people through airline contact, maybe it's good to take precautions.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
4. Because the chance is very low but not zero.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:57 AM
Oct 2014

Somebody who used the can at the back of the plane after him would be at some theoretical risk, for example. Low risk since apparently he wasn't showing any symptoms yet.

But it's a serious disease so you check and hopefully you stop it there. That's how Nigeria stopped it: a visitor had it. They did basic public health stuff, found his contacts and monitored them. We're at least as good at this as Nigeria.

This is basic public health stuff that gets done all the time for TB, STIs, etc.

 

boomer55

(592 posts)
6. This stinks. Its a boolean equation. Its either true or false. This is how panic starts when you
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:03 AM
Oct 2014

say one thing with absolute certainty and then later take actions that directly contradict what was said.

The authorities said with absolute certainty over and over again that there was ZERO chance, NO chance. NONE! NADA! no chance the passengers on the plane were exposed. period end of story.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
17. this is the point that should be ringing
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:36 AM
Oct 2014

you can't say there is zero chance to the public and then go back and behave as if there is NOT zero chance. proves you are lying or are stupid or potentially both.

sP

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
7. Have you a link besides the DailyMail? A reputable source?
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:19 AM
Oct 2014

Funny how they say mo alerts over the first flight or the hours he spent in his layover airport.

I'd like to see a reputable source. I checked UA website and nothing there. Nothing on news about this either.

Fridays Child

(23,998 posts)
9. Up to now, Ebola is not known to be contagious until the person develops symptoms.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 03:18 AM
Oct 2014

But could the virus mutate or evolve such that this would no longer hold true?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. 'Of course' he says. I wonder, do you live your life in fear that HIV will mutate and become
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:45 AM
Oct 2014

transmitted by casual contact?
That sort of thinking caused much suffering and injustice in the 80's and 90's. 'Who knows if what they say is true, of course it can mutate, let's fire our gay employees now!'
Just know that the fire you are playing with burns human flesh.
Knowledge = Life

 

boomer55

(592 posts)
12. correct. why are they scrambling when the authorities have assured them and us again and again
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 03:34 AM
Oct 2014

that there is zero chance of exposure?

ALBliberal

(2,339 posts)
15. Is there any information on where or how this man contracted ebola?
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 04:19 AM
Oct 2014

I am curious what sort of contact he had with an ebola victim and whether it's been traced back.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
16. yes. detailed information in a NYT piece and other outlets
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 04:21 AM
Oct 2014

He helped take a pregnant ebola victim to the hospital in a taxi and then returned with her when the hospital didn't have room for her, and helped carry her back into her home.

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
20. Concern for customer well-being, corporate image, and probably the most important--
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:38 AM
Oct 2014

a proactive strategy against possible lawsuits, either legitimate or bogus.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
21. this^^^^ it's an abundance of caution on their part.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:45 AM
Oct 2014

They don't care if they leave people panicking. They care about 1. legal protection and 2. looking like they care.

Also, his temperature would have been checked leaving Liberia, but not necessarily checked arriving in Brussels, leaving Brussels, arriving in DC, leaving DC or arriving in Dallas.

That bothers me. They should be questioned and temps taken at both ends.

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