Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:08 PM Oct 2014

April 2014: Only 1 case of Ebola in Liberia. Experts say risk of spread is "very low."

In April, there was one known case of Ebola in Liberia. By November, about 10,000 Liberian cases are estimated, according to a NEJM study by the WHO. And this is one of the more conservative estimates. The CDC says that in another 4 months, the number of “official” victims in Liberia and Sierra Leone could total more than 550,000.



http://allafrica.com/stories/201404030636.html

FROM APRIL 2014 – 6 months ago

The U.S. Embassy in Monrovia has been advised that a woman confirmed to have Ebola has traveled to the Firestone Plantation Camp in Monrovia. . . . This woman is the only person in Liberia confirmed to have Ebola at this time.

Currently, the woman with Ebola and her family are quarantined in their home until they can be moved to an appropriate facility. Contacts from the initial taxi, the taxi driver, and the motorcycle driver have been identified and are being followed closely by the Liberian Ministry of Health and Social Welfare (MOHSW) and the World Health Organization. The MOHSW is coordinating identification, tracking, and preparing isolation plans.

Risk of transmission remains very low as Ebola is contracted through contact with blood and body fluids or contaminated articles. Symptoms may appear anywhere from 2 to 21 days after exposure to Ebola virus, though 8-10 days is most common.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1411100#t=articleTop

As of September 14, the doubling time of the epidemic was 15.7 days in Guinea, 23.6 days in Liberia, and 30.2 days in Sierra Leone (Table 2). We estimate that, at the current rate of increase, assuming no changes in control efforts, the cumulative number of confirmed and probable cases by November 2 (the end of week 44 of the epidemic) will be 5740 in Guinea, 9890 in Liberia, and 5000 in Sierra Leone, exceeding 20,000 cases in total. The true case load, including suspected cases and undetected cases, will be higher still.

https://student.societyforscience.org/article/ebola-epidemic-could-top-1-million-cdc-warns

Sixty-one members of an Ebola Response Team authored the New England Journal of Medicine report. The World Health Organization, or WHO, convened this group of experts. The experts scoured recent health reports to detail the infection sweeping through five West African countries. Throughout the past nine months, they now conclude, the death rate in each country has been about the same: roughly 7 in every 10 people who get Ebola.

As scary as such numbers are, they are not the most pessimistic ones. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, or CDC, issued its own update on September 23. This government agency is based in Atlanta, Ga. The CDC now predicts that within a week, West Africa’s Ebola outbreak could top 8,000 victims. That’s just the “official” number. Experts at the CDC believe the actual infection numbers are 2.5 times as high as those that get reported. That would mean that by September 30, Ebola already would have sickened 21,000 people.

Even more worrisome, the official number of Ebola victims — just in Liberia and Sierra Leone — could reach 550,000 within another four months, the CDC says. That would translate to an estimated 1.4 million victims (after accounting for infections that never got officially reported). These dire figures appear in an “early release” report in the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.
All of the CDC and WHO projections assume that no improvements are made to control the disease. Yet it is still possible to get the disease under control and stop its spread, health-care officials say. Key to making the outbreak shrink, not swell, will be isolating the sick from the healthy. Such a separation of infected people is known as a quarantine.

14 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
1. Liberia does not have the US infastructure, resources, expertise or general public knowlegde.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:15 PM
Oct 2014

The two simply aren't comparable on this.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
2. And yet the US was offering the assurance that the risk of transmission was "very low."
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:19 PM
Oct 2014

They knew what the medical infrastructure was there. So why did they assure everyone the risk was low?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
4. The better comparison is Nigeria and Sengal.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:23 PM
Oct 2014

In Liberia, there was a lot of mistrust and conspiracy thoughts getting in the way.

In either 21 days or 42 days, US should be declaring Ebola free. There is no reason why that shouldn't happen. They fucked up in Dallas initially, but it is still plenty early to contain it.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
3. Time to panic?
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:23 PM
Oct 2014

I don't think so, at least in the US. If you're in West Africa, though, yes. I don't think you're in West Africa.

The US is aware of these risks and is weighing the risks here. At some point, we will probably restrict travel from impacted areas to the US. So will Europe and other nations. I'm sure that is under discussion already. For now, though, the risk in the US is minimal, and our health care industry is ramping up measures to deal with isolated cases.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
5. No. But it's time for the medical establishment to stop being overly confident.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:32 PM
Oct 2014

I was pretty shocked to realize they didn't even have a protocol for disposing of the vast amounts of medical waste -- and they still don't.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
7. I believe they are now alert to the issue.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:35 PM
Oct 2014

Here in the Minneapolis St. Paul area, all of the hospitals have planned for Ebola cases. And they do have the facilities and strategies all worked out. The same sort of thing is taking place all across the country.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
9. What is their plan for the medical waste? Do they have an approved incinerator available?
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:36 PM
Oct 2014

I read there are only 4 in the country, so if you have one there, you're lucky.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
12. Every hospital in the area has facilities for dealing with
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:51 PM
Oct 2014

infectious waste. Incineration is not the only method. Hospitals deal with highly infectious waste on a daily basis. MRSA is a much more important infection risk in the US than Ebola. As we write, hospitals are planning for possible Ebola cases. The arrival of the first case in this country who was not brought here by medical transportation has created a bit more urgency in the preparations and precautions.

The publicity, too, about that traveler has brought the situation clearly into focus.

Get your flu shot.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
14. The top hospital that took the first patient, Dr. Brantley, did not have adequate
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:56 PM
Oct 2014

facilities for handling the mountains of contagious waste. They had to send it to the CDC down the road.

Don't kid yourself. This is a major problem and your area is NOT yet prepared -- unless they have one of the 4 incinerators in the country prepared to handle it.

By the way, one of the issues was that the garbage companies won't handle the stuff. Were you aware of that? How do you propose it be buried, and by whom?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025612086

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
8. I think it's time to realize there will be more than 1 case in the US.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:36 PM
Oct 2014

Nigeria handled it effectively with only 20 infected and 8 dead after an infected person from Liberia brought it there.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
11. My concern is the apratment complex he was living in.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:50 PM
Oct 2014

That's a poor section of Dallas from what I've been able to learn.

That leads to a whole other set of concerns. There's a huge donut hole in medical coverage for working poor in Texas. If it spreads in that complex, it could become a slow motion poor people's plague and linger for months. Not a lot of cases, but a few at a time where the infected people display symptoms for days before finally seeking help.

What's more is the working poor with no medical coverage tend to go to work sick.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
13. Yes, that's a concern, and I assume the folks there
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:53 PM
Oct 2014

are figuring out what measures they should take. Again, planning, not panic, is the appropriate thing to be doing.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»April 2014: Only 1 case o...