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PADemD

(4,482 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 07:42 AM Oct 2014

Ebola Quarantine

Suggested in one of my earlier posts.

In order to prevent someone from lying in order to leave Africa after exposure, IMO the following should be done:

1) World-wide suspension of all commercial flights into and out of Africa.

2) Only military flights out of Africa to a 21-day quarantine area.

3) After 21 days in quarantine, commercial travel to final destination.

I know it sounds drastic, but it would be a way to keep people like the Texas patient from infecting other countries.

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Ebola Quarantine (Original Post) PADemD Oct 2014 OP
It has to happen. boston bean Oct 2014 #1
Wow, that is massively racist and stupid. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #2
Really? I didn't know that the Ebola virus had a color. PADemD Oct 2014 #4
point out one place in that post where RACE is mentioned ProdigalJunkMail Oct 2014 #7
How is it racist? It's an extreme proposal, morningfog Oct 2014 #8
Hysterical over-reaction. n/t ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #3
^^^ This eom MohRokTah Oct 2014 #13
It sounds crazy is what it sounds. cali Oct 2014 #5
not all of Africa, but the hot spots. boston bean Oct 2014 #6
I think straight Americans need to explain their opposition to this in context of their 20 year Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #9
You think most straight Americans even knew such a ban existed? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #14
I'm sure the people in South Africa and sharp_stick Oct 2014 #10
Ebola countries only. Africa is a large continent and, like it or not, we depend on them magical thyme Oct 2014 #11
In which case all flights out of USA should be banned also. To protect the rest of the world. uppityperson Oct 2014 #15
I think there is a vast difference between a country that has 1 confirmed case in isolation magical thyme Oct 2014 #21
Agree. Many here are touting Nigeria's efforts to contain B2G Oct 2014 #12
Africa is a huge continent .... mostly unaffected by the outbreak etherealtruth Oct 2014 #16
"Africa" alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #17
Internment camps for Africans. Barack_America Oct 2014 #18
My response uppityperson Oct 2014 #19
If we don't do it the terrorist will win Johonny Oct 2014 #20
Unnecessary caraher Oct 2014 #22

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
1. It has to happen.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 07:50 AM
Oct 2014

unfortunately, people will lie, take Tylenol and get on a flight to better their chances for survival, infecting others.

This is the only way to stop it from coming here.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
4. Really? I didn't know that the Ebola virus had a color.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 08:11 AM
Oct 2014

FYI, Dr. Nancy Snyderman will be voluntarily going into a 21-day quarantine after her freelance NBC News cameraman was diagnosed with Ebola in Liberia.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/03/us/ebola-strikes-american-cameraman-in-liberia.html?_r=0

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
7. point out one place in that post where RACE is mentioned
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 08:20 AM
Oct 2014

you can't do it. people like you throwing a word like racism around the way you just did are the reason people believe there's no real racism. i suggest you retract your post and apologize...

sP

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
5. It sounds crazy is what it sounds.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 08:13 AM
Oct 2014

Have you any idea the havoc that would be caused by the suspension of all commercial flights in and out of Africa? Do you understand that most of Africa is NOT suffering from the epidemic?

Sorry, it sounds flat ignorant and hysterical.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. I think straight Americans need to explain their opposition to this in context of their 20 year
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:14 AM
Oct 2014

support for or apathy toward the HIV travel ban, which prevented anyone with HIV from traveling to the US. Because of course, you can catch the AIDS by sitting near a person with HIV.
That ban was enforced until 2010.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
14. You think most straight Americans even knew such a ban existed?
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:49 PM
Oct 2014

I didn't, although I think I've only traveled out of the country once or twice in the last 20 years.

It's hard to either support or 'be apathetic' towards something you've never even heard of.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
10. I'm sure the people in South Africa and
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:26 AM
Oct 2014

every other country not currently experiencing Ebola will just love that. Hey why not add on a few European border countries on that as well...Spain is a little closer to Sierra Leone than South Africa so we'll just toss them into the mix.

This is not only a wildly off the mark over reaction it's pretty much impossible to implement and totally impossible to enforce.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
11. Ebola countries only. Africa is a large continent and, like it or not, we depend on them
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:36 AM
Oct 2014

for more than chocolate.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
21. I think there is a vast difference between a country that has 1 confirmed case in isolation
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 08:21 AM
Oct 2014

with known contacts identified and quarantined or monitored, and a country where it is out of control, spreading exponentially, with victims literally dying in the street in front of the overwhelmed hospitals.

Their immediate neighbors have put on travel restrictions which seem to be working pretty well.

The focus should be on getting desperately needed aid to the victims, including not only the those with ebola but those who are dying from malaria and childbirth because they can't get any health care, and those going hungry.

We shouldn't be wasting resources on nonessential travel, imo.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
12. Agree. Many here are touting Nigeria's efforts to contain
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 09:44 AM
Oct 2014

and stop the outbreak.

It's largely due to the fact that they stopped flights in and out of Liberia and Sierra Leone. It's the only way.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
16. Africa is a huge continent .... mostly unaffected by the outbreak
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 02:59 PM
Oct 2014

My suggestion would be providing knowledgeable people, equipment and supplies to the effected countries,so that there is a reasonable chance of getting the outbreak under control.

I could go for limiting travel from countries of known impact though

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
18. Internment camps for Africans.
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:02 PM
Oct 2014

That's what you are proposing. All based on media hysteria over a virus that is less contagious than the common cold. And one that, with good medical care, may sort out to be less deadly than the flu.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
19. My response
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 03:02 PM
Oct 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025617133

Ebola Quarantine question

As the USA has people sick with ebola...

In order to prevent someone from lying in order to leave USA after exposure, should the following should be done?

1) World-wide suspension of all commercial flights into and out of USA

2) Only military flights out of USA to a 21-day quarantine area.

3) After 21 days in quarantine, commercial travel to final destination.

I know it sounds drastic, but it would be a way to keep people like the Texas patient from infecting other countries.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
22. Unnecessary
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 08:34 AM
Oct 2014

A recent Wired piece, interviewing several experts including one of my colleagues, explains what should and should not be cause for concern.


“The virus doesn’t easily go from one person to the next. It seems like it does, maybe, because Ebola is scary. It is unknown and has a high fatality rate and requires isolation or quarantine and has no known cure,” said biochemist Sharon Crary, of DePauw University. Crary studies the Ebola virus and worked with the CDC’s Viral Special Pathogens Branch, where she was part of the response team for the 2000 Ebola outbreak in Gulu, Uganda.

Ebola isn’t anywhere near as contagious as the flu, for example. Or measles, which is much more of a threat in the United States now that people are no longer routinely vaccinating their children. Scientists estimate that one person infected with measles can transmit the disease to as many as 18 others; for Ebola, that number is around two.

This is because unlike influenza or measles, Ebola isn’t very stealthy. It can’t spread through the air, and it isn’t contagious before symptoms first show up, when a person might unknowingly be a walking disease distributor. Rather, the Ebola virus spreads through infected bodily fluids—such as blood, vomit, saliva, semen and feces—which need to come into direct contact with a mucous membrane (such as the inside of your eyelids, mouth, or nose) or a bit of broken skin.

This is why a major outbreak is unlikely in the United States. The hospitals here are equipped to handle a disease like this, and infection control officers are ready to slam the brakes on any potential spread. It should be relatively easy to contain.
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