Sick passenger's seatmate speaks to CNN

[B2G]

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2014/10/04/nr-sick-passenger-seatmate-newark.cnn&hpt=hp_t1&from_homepage=yes&video_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F#/video/us/2014/10/04/nr-sick-passenger-seatmate-newark.cnn

[JI7]

1. what do they say ?

[NYC_SKP]

3. I know. I SO prefer written accounts to videos that pop up, with ads and chatter.

I just skip them and hope someone else posts a transcript or paraphrases the main points.

[seabeyond]

5. ha. hence, me reading replies. you know,

you guys talking about what was said, lol.

[uppityperson]

10. I kind of transcribed, downthread.

[seabeyond]

17. thanks. i was gonna listen and do that myself, after i posted that. then i forgot. so, thank you. nt

[uppityperson]

7. I did, downthread. Hi!

[NYC_SKP]

8. There it is! Thank you!

My sorry search led me to JimRob's site where a member claims his wife was on the plane, still detained. Hmmmm...

[uppityperson]

9. I am rarely able to get the vids to load, took advantage of doing so.

Freeper's wife being held on plane longer? hahahahah.

[NYC_SKP]

11. Well, something had to make the Liberian dude vomit.

We may have solved this!

[uppityperson]

14. And his eyes hurt.

hah

My eyes!

[B2G]

12. Sorry, there was no written transcript

I thought some people might be interested in watching it.

[NYC_SKP]

39. That's OK, usually someone comes along.

And sometimes the source is thoughtful enough to post a written blurb, but not CNN.

Thanks for posting.

[uppityperson]

6. Here is a synopsis I wrote as listening, sorry not complete transcript

Seatmate said his eyes felt bad, had not ever felt like that before. Called for flight attendant, paged a doctor on board. When they landed, other side of plane allowed to get off, CDC in hazmat gear took sick guy and daughter off, after a bit of a wait, announcement came that all was ok, they could deplane.

After this guy got through customs at baggage, announcement came to collect everyone, they waited for hours in a place in the airport. CDC announcement "held as an abundance of caution", filled out contact sheets, got info sheet on s/sx of ebola.

"Was he vomitting on the flight?" "I did not see of have any reason to know he did." They masked him and his daughter once they found out he was from Liberia.
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Transcribing as I listened. I agree, news caster was looking for gore, this guy didn't give it.

cwydro added more below which I missed.

[cwydro]

16. Good synopsis.

I listened too. But I think the guy was a bit perturbed they were not given more info re the passenger.

He even said the flight attendants allowed him to sit in their area until they moved the sick guy away. Scary on many levels.

And I feel so sorry for the sick guy's daughter. How horrid that must have been for her.

Odd that we haven't had an announcement that "Oh he was just airsick/had the flu/ate something rotten..." yet. Seems like they would want to reassure all of the rest of the traveling public.

[uppityperson]

18. Thank you, I missed that. They emptied the other side of the plane and let them sit there

[seabeyond]

20. thank you. interesting. abundance of caution. i am ok with that for now.

appreciate cwydro's take too.

[etherealtruth]

38. Thank you!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. CNN would have found the story far more interesting

if a plane full of ebola-infested passengers had disappeared.

[PCIntern]

4. …if it broke into two sections above an island

and Mama Cass' "Make Your Own Kind of Music" started playing...

[flamingdem]

13. Good one

[magical thyme]

15. ok, I either have every single person who has replied to this thread on ignore

or the thread is broken. I can see there are 14+ replies. Can't see a single one. Bizarro world

I couldn't view the video either. Hmmmm....

ok now I can hear the video. His symptoms were that his eyes felt like they were floating...he'd never felt that way before. The CDC were in face shields, gloves. Kept 3 rows on initially. Then detained everybody after they were through customs, along with their baggage. Then waited hours and hours in the airport.
Were given sheets to provide given full contact information. Were subsequently given signs/symptoms sheet for Ebola.

Never saw him vomit; had no reason to believe he had vomited. As soon as they knew he had been from Liberia, he & daughter given face masks and moved them toward back of plane.

[cwydro]

19. No way you have me on ignore.

I'm not that obnoxious lol.

[magical thyme]

22. phew...I can see your post.

I guess everybody else is on ignore Never seen that happen before!

[yeoman6987]

32. I don't think you have me on ignore

But I can be obnoxious....lol. We shall see.

[magical thyme]

33. Nope, I can see you

apparently it's poster #1. Everybody replying in that conversation is invisible to me and, apparently, others.

[yeoman6987]

36. Cool!

Look forward to some great discussions in future threads.

[yeoman6987]

37. Number 1said, "What does it say?"

Probably could get the video to work. So now you know that ignore works. Lol.

[Aerows]

21. Me too

I suspect I have most of them on ignore, too LOL.

Yeah, main comment by someone that I ignored and a bunch of replies to ignored poster - that's why neither of us can see it.

[magical thyme]

24. matching ignore lists!

too funny!

[Aerows]

26. Yep

Probably for the same reason they are on my ignore list.

[uppityperson]

23. We have been talking. Can you see me? could be you have the first one on ignore and

all the replies to them are hidden?

[magical thyme]

25. Yes I can see you too.

Ok, so if everybody replied to post #1, then that would make sense.

[Aerows]

27. I opened it in Incognito

and yeah, it's one of the main people I have on ignore.

[Aerows]

28. You aren't on the ignore list

That's why we see you when you reply to a post. If you are on an ignore list, and reply to an OP, the entire subthread is hidden.

It's a good idea, actually. The ignored and their ignored friends can talk to themselves and no one has to see their clutter in the thread.

[Lochloosa]

30. Damn. How many people do you have on ignore.

I've been almost 10 years and have zero.
People do change

[magical thyme]

35. not all that many.

it was just the 1st poster -- I can't see the "subthread" below it, lol.

[MineralMan]

34. Most of the early posts were in a subthread.

If you had the first poster in that subthread on ignore, you wouldn't have seen any of it. One reason I don't use ignore.

[B2G]

29. Update. He was released from the hospital.

That was quick.

[uppityperson]

31. That is good, thanks for the update.

[TorchTheWitch]

40. could be he was just air sick

Air pressure from flying can bother peoples' sinuses that would make their eyes ache. When I get sinus problems in the upper sinuses my eyebrows hurt especially the point closest to my nose. Pressing on those points is supposed to help to drain them and relieve the pressure but it hurts a whole lot to do it. And the vomiting could have just been plain old fashioned air sickness.

He better not have been released unless he tested negative for Ebola. I would imagine they would have done a blood draw and tested him right away, but I don't know how long it takes to get positive or negative results. I hope pretty immediately. Don't they just look for the distinctly shaped virus in a microscope?

[uppityperson]

41. That is not how they test. Here is an interesting article about viewing viruses, and ebola testing

Most viruses are too small to be seen directly with an optical microscope.

http://www.cnet.com/news/nanoscope-makes-live-viruses-visible-for-first-time/

'Nanoscope' makes live viruses visible for first time

Viruses are small. Very small. There are millions of types, and the 5,000 or so that have been studied in detail are typically between 10 and 300 nanometers (one-billionth of a meter) in diameter.

Because the wavelengths of visible light range from roughly 300 to 800 nanometers, viruses aren't exactly visible under normal lighting. Only optical fluoresce microscopes can see inside a virus, and then only indirectly, using dye, which cannot actually penetrate a virus.

So the "microsphere nanoscope" developed by scientists at the University of Manchester's School of Mechanical, Aerospace, and Civil Engineering in the U.K. and described in the journal Nature Communications is remarkable on two counts: It breaks the world record of direct imaging under normal lights by 20 times, viewing objects as small as 50 nm wide, and what's more, the tech behind it imposes no theoretical limit in the size of feature that can be seen.

This incredible jump in capacity could allow humans to see inside human cells and even live viruses for the first time, which in turn could give us many new insights into their structures and behaviors....(more)

About ebola tests, the formatting got all messed up with copy/paste so look at the link for the whole thing
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/diagnosis/

Within a few days after symptoms begin:
Antigen-capture enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) testing
IgM ELISA
Polymerase chain reaction (PCR)

http://www.newsweek.com/how-hospitals-test-ebola-274898

Thomas Ksiazek, a professor at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston who has done extensive research on Ebola, says that testing is done using a process called real-time RT-PCR, or reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction.

In this technique, doctors or medical personnel take samples of blood from a patient. They then add an enzyme to convert RNA found in the blood into DNA (RNA is a chemical messenger that helps turn DNA’s “instructions” into proteins). Next, a “primer” is added that targets a string of genetic code unique to the Ebola virus. The concoction is then run through a PCR machine, wherein that strand of Ebola genetic material is amplified, or copied, many times (if it’s there, that is. If it’s not, nothing happens and the test returns a negative.)

Finally, a chemical probe is added that binds to these snippets of DNA and alerts the scientists to the presence of the Ebola virus, Ksiazek tells Newsweek. The whole process can take as little as three to four hours.

In the case of the man in Dallas, authorities initially didn’t connect the symptoms he presented with on September 26 to his recent visit to Liberia. When he returned to the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital for a second time on September 28, he’d been sick for four days—certainly long enough for the PCR test to return a positive result, Ksiazek says.

In fact, the PCR test is sensitive enough that by the time most people show up with symptoms in a hospital, it will be able to detect the virus, says Ksiazek, who is a former head of the CDC’s Special Pathogens Branch and has dealt with the containment of viruses like Ebola on a daily basis....(more)

[B2G]

42. What I don't understand is how they got the results so fast

These other cases are taking days, not hours.

[customerserviceguy]

43. These are people who can afford to travel from Europe

Mark my words, their congresscritters offices will hear from them before the end of the day on Monday. And everybody who gives a tinker's damn about them will hear from them in the next week.

Political pressure on the President to stop taking in fliers from especially the affected countries in Africa (if not the whole continent) will be greatly intensified.

The Repukes always hope for an October surprise, they may well have gotten their wish.