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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 08:13 AM Oct 2014

A Look Inside the Fake Abortion Clinics That Are Greatly Outnumbering Real Ones

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/look-inside-fake-abortion-clinics-are-greatly-outnumbering-real-ones



When Rachel called a crisis pregnancy center located in Texas, she told the receptionist she was facing an unwanted pregnancy and wanted to explore her options. The woman on the phone responded by saying Rachel should come in for a free sonogram to “see her baby.”

Rachel went to the center and a volunteer asked her if she was planning to have an abortion. Rachel said she was still thinking through her decision. The volunteer then stepped out of the room and came back with another woman who introduced herself as a missionary. This woman told Rachel that the Bible says abortion is wrong. She pulled out a brochure titled “A Woman’s Right to Know” and proceeded to read abortion death rates.

Rachel was taken into another room for the sonogram. The volunteer claimed she was “pretty sure” she could see Rachel’s “little peanut.” The women asked Rachel how she was feeling about her pregnancy. Rachel said she still wasn’t sure. The women asked if they could pray for her. They laid their hands on her and prayed for 10 minutes. Afterward, the missionary said Rachel should give herself “to Jesus and let him take over” instead of worrying about her pregnancy. She sent Rachel away with a Bible. Rachel was never given a pregnancy test.

An Undercover Investigation

Fortunately, Rachel wasn’t pregnant. She always knew she wasn’t. She was an undercover volunteer investigator for NARAL Pro-Choice Texas, a reproductive rights organization working to expose the danger of crisis pregnancy centers (CPCs).
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A Look Inside the Fake Abortion Clinics That Are Greatly Outnumbering Real Ones (Original Post) xchrom Oct 2014 OP
as always, the fanatics step-up their "game" with ever escalating tactics KittyWampus Oct 2014 #1
Why is this not a criminal act? The Christian religious zealots are truly fucked up human beings, Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #2
Also from the link: Arkansas Granny Oct 2014 #3
If your entire philosophy is based on a lie. Half-Century Man Oct 2014 #4
Hateful, ugly liars. Feral Child Oct 2014 #5
This is one example of why all religions should be outlawed. n/t 99Forever Oct 2014 #6
Really? Is that your solution? MineralMan Oct 2014 #7
Yes, it's my solution. 99Forever Oct 2014 #8
Then don't. pangaia Oct 2014 #9
Well, good luck with your quixotic venture, I guess. MineralMan Oct 2014 #10
Um, sure. eggplant Oct 2014 #12
Seriously? How is that going to work, considering that The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #11
Good grief. 99Forever Oct 2014 #13
Yes, religion has caused a lot of grief. No argument there. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #14
Wowzer... 99Forever Oct 2014 #19
"Seriously? How is that going to work...?" DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2014 #15
I assume you're kidding. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #16
My proposal is as sound as the gentleman's proposal who wants to outlaw all religion. /NT DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2014 #17
I'll buy that. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #18
sounds fraudulant to me eShirl Oct 2014 #20
I've read the Bible. I don't recall seeing the word "abortion" once. Initech Oct 2014 #21
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
1. as always, the fanatics step-up their "game" with ever escalating tactics
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 08:32 AM
Oct 2014

I just don't see the equivalent backlash.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. Why is this not a criminal act? The Christian religious zealots are truly fucked up human beings,
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 08:42 AM
Oct 2014

ISIS is just another branch of the same tree of ignorance.

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
3. Also from the link:
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 08:46 AM
Oct 2014

The documentary illustrates the extent to which these CPCs will go in order to deceive women. In the film, anti-abortion activist Abby Johnson was even recorded at a CPC training session explaining ways to manipulate women into believing that CPCs are abortion clinics. She said:

"Women that are seeking abortions, women that are pregnant, that are vulnerable, they are going into Google and they are typing ‘pregnancy symptoms.’ There’s a way in Google where you can basically set that search to your website. … We want to look professional, we want to look business-like. And, yeah, we do kind of want to look medical. The best client you ever get is one that thinks they’re walking into an abortion clinic."

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
5. Hateful, ugly liars.
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 10:42 AM
Oct 2014

I cannot express my anger at these charlatans misleading women, desperate and in need, who go there thinking they're going to see a doctor.

As far as I'm concerned this is medical fraud and the perpetrators should be jailed.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
7. Really? Is that your solution?
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 11:06 AM
Oct 2014

Here's the reality: It's far more likely that religion will be compulsory than that it will be outlawed. Look at the USAF, which tried to sneak in an oath that required "so help me God" at the end. The religious far outnumber the non-religious in this country. Be careful what you wish for is my advice.

Religion will not be outlawed in the US. The real need is to work to protect the rights of the non-religious. As an atheist, I support everyone's right to believe or not to believe as they choose. That's the only way to protect my rights. Calling for outlawing of religion is not going to work to the benefit of non-believers. Please don't do that.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
8. Yes, it's my solution.
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 11:09 AM
Oct 2014

That's where I stopped reading your diatribe. I heard all of the bullshit before and won't waste one more second on it.

eggplant

(3,908 posts)
12. Um, sure.
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 11:20 AM
Oct 2014

Your solution is just silly. You can't legislate away free thinking.

Your anger here is wonderfully ironic. If only we all thought as you do, then we wouldn't have a problem.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,610 posts)
11. Seriously? How is that going to work, considering that
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 11:20 AM
Oct 2014

in the United States the Constitution specifically prohibits any government interference with religion, along with the fact that some 80% of all Americans profess some kind of religious belief? Face it, religion isn't going away; it's been a part of human culture and history since forever. What needs to happen is for religious people to understand that we have a secular government (and for very good reason), and that nobody has the right to impose their religious beliefs on anyone else using the power of the state. If that were to happen we'd all be fine.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
13. Good grief.
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 11:29 AM
Oct 2014

Did I say I think it will happen? WTF? Religions are the main cause of MUCH of the crap happening all over the world, not just now, but in all of history. Delusional people killing for imaginary "gods."

The problem is, it's all based on nonsense. MAGIC ISN'T REAL.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,610 posts)
14. Yes, religion has caused a lot of grief. No argument there.
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 11:33 AM
Oct 2014

Your solution, however, is to make all religion illegal. That will not happen. Rather than tilt at an enormous and impervious windmill, therefore, why not get involved in efforts to keep religion out of government? That's realistic. Espousing the abolition of all religion is not.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
19. Wowzer...
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 12:13 PM
Oct 2014

... you sure kicked the crap out of that strawman. Impressive.

I also want all nuclear weapons gone and all guns, but realize it isn't going to happen. Want to give me a ration of shit about those too while you're at it?

Excuse me for having ideals.

Just how the fuck do you propose I personally can "keep religion out of government?" We've got an asshole sitting on the SCOTUS who openly says it's okay to favor religion, and I'm supposed to change that?

I can't even get the government to help me have decent affordable health care or keep the police from acting like above the law, roving armed gangs. That's just scratching the surface.

Initech

(100,042 posts)
21. I've read the Bible. I don't recall seeing the word "abortion" once.
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 12:26 PM
Oct 2014

These people are not missionaries. They're sick and twisted.

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