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women parts merely disappear after 50. who knew?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)The Wielding Truth
(11,410 posts)I just knew clicking on this was going to piss me off, but had to do it anyway.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Warpy
(110,744 posts)Men like this see anything female as a device to get supper on the table, clean the house, and fuck. Well, maybe not the last one for the daughters, even after marriage, they're funny about having their daughters fuck.
All he knows about female anatomy is where to put his dick. He knows even less about women.
Really?
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Just makes me livid. Has this man ever talked to his wife about her health care needs? I'd love it if just once one of these politicians wives would shoot them down in the press over stupidity like this. Kind of makes me a bit nostalgic for a Martha Mitchell--someone to set the record straight.
JHB
(37,122 posts)Also gets upset if anyone refers to organs or structures in a woman's lower abdomen by their actual names and not as "the plumbing" or other deliberately vague euphemism.
mrmpa
(4,033 posts)that he's married.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)for his Watergate crimes instead. Karma almost always wins in the end.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Martha said her piece and she left with her head up high.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,702 posts)librechik
(30,659 posts)JHB
(37,122 posts)"I don't know what those words mean, so obviously you people don't really need it."
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)I do nto use the f word on other peoples facebook. but, I could not delete it. cause it is ... dumbfuck.
JHB
(37,122 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Dumbfuck, sure. I wouldn't quibble with "asshole," "coprocephalic," or a number of other equally appropriate terms.
But why did you have to drag Neander Valley (i.e. Neandertal) into it? I happen to be about 2% Neandertaler myself. My ancestors were decent, gentle folk, and do not deserve the calumny of being compared to this wretched example of Homo Patheticus.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)While I can't be positive my family and myself have Neandertaler genes it's very likely a lot of my ancestors come from the Rhine Valley.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Sites like Ancestry.com & 23andme will provide you with a lot of information about your ancestry, including Neandertal ancestry (if any) for about $100. Most Europeans & many Asians have some, but Africans don't. It's fun to find out, & there are often surprises.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Because I found a person online who was born to someone at the right time and place to be a son of someone who is from the E haplogroup. I would like to confirm if this man is the father of the last relative I can trace, because he was the first one from my fathers side to have come to the English Colonies, it would be nice to know where from England he came from and who his father and mother was if that's possible.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)my husband did this, found out so much about his family. they are al that in put together, always said my family the Neanderthal.
we always thought it a bit of a jab toward my people , in good natural cause we are totally comfortable with who we are.
we found hubby from Africa.... and oh, what that caused in his family.
I think mine is European. which would suggest the Neanderthal, which is even more fun, cause they were a lot more than we made them out to be. which is why my family takes the kidding with a smile, cause we already know that.
too funny.
cali
(114,904 posts)aww, never mind. rhetorical.
locdlib
(176 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Pass it on and vote accordingly.
surrealAmerican
(11,332 posts)... or was this a "men's only" event? Even if it was, some of these men must know actual women over 50.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)what the FUCK do you say to that???? And somebody elected these people.
JHB
(37,122 posts)...to every woman in his district. And their husbands, fathers, boyfriends, brothers, sons.
Hit the economic angle too: "YOU are the ones who will have to pay straight out of pocket because your "honorable" congressman doesn't know his ass from his elbow."
"If he's THAT ignorant on something this simple, you have to ask yourself what else is he just as ignorant about -- and making decisions based on that ignorance -- every other day of the week?"
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)But you go girl/guy!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)are you going to hold a whole party responsible for what a few say?
yes. yes i am. and here is why. when they say stupid shit like this, pass law on women's body and not ONE of you republicans stand up and speak out against this dumb, yes.... YOU are ALL a part of this stupid. and women like you... that say nothing, has a special place in it all.
AngryOldDem
(14,060 posts)If you are not part of the solution....
Most change comes from within. But I'm afraid that most GOP foot-soldiers are too brainwashed anymore to even know HOW to think, let alone WHAT to think, so any chance of that happening is nil.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)her, pick any issue. she started running.
she made a general comment about corruption. so i said get money out of politics. she immediately bonded. see, we agree on the same thing.
now. lets talk about who put that money in politics. supreme court ruling. repugs?
she went running, waving bye... as she went, really we ought to get together some time, sit on the porch and chat, yada yada yada.
my son, sittin listening, said, .... you destroyed her. she had nothing. i am hoping the put a check by my name. STAY AWAY from this house.
sheshe2
(83,128 posts)damn you are good. your sons response~ Priceless!
DebJ
(7,699 posts)Nictuku
(3,560 posts)I couldn't have said it better.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)pukes
spooky3
(34,228 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,179 posts)to come in for my Pap smear.
He is a friggin' idiot.
Chemisse
(30,783 posts)It's ridiculous how long they can drag this out.
But gyn care is a lot more than pap smears. This is when most gynecological cancers crop up.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)after age 65 you don't need them.
Chemisse
(30,783 posts)And since I am beyond the childbearing years, am monogamous, and am negative for HPV, I don't see the need. My PCP continues to urge me to get one.
mopinko
(69,716 posts)she would stop bugging me about pap smears if i would stop avoiding mammograms.
we are still talking about how i refuse to have another colonoscopy after the horrible last one i had.
AngryOldDem
(14,060 posts)...how much of this nagging stems from genuine concern and how much from pure profit motive?
I mean, I read the medical guidelines and ask my doc and I always come away with the feeling that if I don't get these exams every single year, I'M GONNA DIE!
And, I guess there's the CYA factor...lawsuits and all that if something should happen.
Never forget the time I went to a GP about an upper respiratory infection and had to sit and listen to a lecture about the benefits of colonoscopies. Cool stuff, bro, but that wasn't what I was there for.
RobinA
(9,862 posts)are beginning to retreat from the once a year dictat. Just yesterday I had a discussion with my GYN about the appropriateness of yearly mammos. He wouldn't say it in so many words, but he did make a good case for every two years without actually flat out recommending it. I'm over 50 and not high risk.
mopinko
(69,716 posts)but the risk does increase as we age, whereas the cervical cancer risk decreases, unless there is exposure to hpv that is high.
AngryOldDem
(14,060 posts)I think these tests need to be dependent on what your risk factor is. If you have a history of cancer, or if it runs in your family, by all means, get tested regularly. But if you don't, and if you manage things, these schedules should be negotiable.
I read a story about a month ago in the Chicago Tribune (wish I had saved it) that some doctors are even considering Pap tests unnecessary anymore (again, I think it depends) because of their nature, and the fact that they can be unduly upsetting to some women who have a history of abuse, etc. I can kind of relate to that.
My GYN is steadfast on the yearly mammos.
Rebl
(149 posts)should get a pap if you are sexually active with more than one partner.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)If Medicare is getting bills from gynecologists for women over 70, then women over 70 probably need gynecological examinations. You'd think that logic would not be beyond the guy.
Face it. He is probably impotent, doesn't know what to do about it, and that is why he is sitting bored stiff (at least one thing about him is stiff) and grouchy.
I have an obscene message for him which I will not share on DU.
I'm 71. OK. This man is a menace to society.
Seriously. Whether a woman over 70 needs gynecological care or not is between her and her doctor. If she doesn't need it, Medicare will not be billed for it, so it is a non-issue. If she does need it, Medicare should pay for it. After all, she paid into Medicare all her working life.
I wish that these members of Congress would stop thinking about women's vaginas and investigate the pharmaceuticals and health insurance companies for overcharging.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Personally, I won't be seventy until a week from tomorrow.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,179 posts)Welcome to Fossilhood, darling!
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)by refusing to leave adolescence.
My motto:
Don't grow up--it's a trap!
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,179 posts)Mine is: If you haven't grown up by the time you are 50 years old, then you don't have to!
pink-o
(4,056 posts)Growing older is inevitable. Growing up is a choice.
Says Pink-o who's 2 months away from the Big 60. And yes, I'm still relevant, sexy and need health care--Newsflash, idiot troglodytes.
The problem with the House is there are districts in this country where people are so totally uneducated, they vote for these idiots and send them to DC. This particular Nimrod is an ignorant sexist and ageist: he obviously thinks that after 50 we're all dried up hags who should be thrown on the scrap heap!
Anything to diminish Female Power that scares little men like him, eh?
daleanime
(17,796 posts)his asshole parts keep growing.
narnian60
(3,510 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)JHB
(37,122 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)YoungDemCA
(5,714 posts)What a bunch of assholes.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Bonus.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Let's start with this asshole. Make an example of him.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Republican idiots should just get castrated at 50.
aquart
(69,014 posts)And to that representative of wherever I say, "Snip, snip."
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)CrispyQ
(36,112 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)Republicans are particularly afflicted with the diarrhea of the mouth syndrome known as "mansplaining". That they are allowed to dictate to women what/if healthcare they will or will not receive based on ignorant male ASSumptions is testimony to the fact that women in the United States DO NOT have equal rights -- or even full human rights.
This so-called man is a despicable bastard.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I hope they keep opening their stupid mouths, though. Will probably lead to a Democratic sweep.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,067 posts)For starters, he probably doesn't understand the difference between obstetrics and gynecology. A woman over 50 probably won't need obstetrical services, but even if the baby-making parts aren't being used any more they don't just disappear. Hence the ongoing need for gynecological services. Does this dumb fuck have a wife? If so, does she ever avail herself of such services? And if she does, I hope she enlightens him. Damn, there are some dumb people out there, and it's a sorry state of affairs that so many of them are in Congress.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I know you said, "probably," and I'm not disagreeing with you, but there are still a fair amount of women over 50 who still have their menstrual cycles and need obstetrical services (although, yes, most women who are still in their "child-bearing" years either don't want a baby at that age or consider it too risky too attempt, so in that, they may need some, ahem, "abortive" services.).
The fact remains is that this "representative" doesn't know jack squat about women. It's amazing to me that any woman outside of the 1 percent ever even considers voting Republican. Sigh.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,047 posts)if his Democratic opponent doesn't beat him over the head with this from now until Election Day, he or she doesn't deserve the seat.
It 's been said that we get the government we deserve. These people really are a special kind of stupid (and I hope someone pointed this out to him in that hearing), but if his constituents continue to vote for him, then they are, too. It's just a damn shame that these idiots have been able to get so good at manipulating the system, just a handful can screw things up for all of us.
malthaussen
(17,024 posts)(That's the kind interpretation.) The problem, then, is that our political system puts ignorant people in a position where their ignorance can influence policy.
-- Mal
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)nclib
(1,013 posts)I've seen my doctor for gynecological issues more times than I did when I was under 50. What an idiot.
edhopper
(33,074 posts)no matter how stupid, ignorant or heartless these congressmen are, the good people of their districts will keep voting for them because God, Blacks, Browns, Guns or other unimportant dog and pony shows.
They can say anything and the voters will ignore it.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)What does he think the vagina just closes up shop at the age of 50?
valerief
(53,235 posts)with any medical care for it?
in his case, who WOULD? I mean, really!
valerief
(53,235 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts).....it would be my excuse too if I were her!
eilen
(4,950 posts)Unless he is an Old Testament fundie then, we, like Sarah might still reproduce at the age of 91.
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)Says something about the USA, doesn't it?
heaven05
(18,124 posts)TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)...smooth as a baby's butt.
TYY
citizen blues
(570 posts)when exactly can I expect this miracle?
If women no longer need gynecological services, then men don't need viagra. After all, that little problem is just mother nature's way of protecting men from heart attacks and strokes. Keep in mind that 20 goes into 80 far more than 80 goes into 20.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Unqualified to do anything but breath the air imo.
marym625
(17,997 posts)In other words, GOP.
I bet black women don't need a GYN ever.
A friend of mine got pregnant at 51 after being told by her gynecologist she no longer needed to worry. Old man doctor
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)I'm 59 now but, can you imagine coming up pregnant at 51? Oh. My God.
marym625
(17,997 posts)She had an abortion. That nearly killed her mentally. She's a religious fanatic. Though it did change her view on her anti choice stand.
treestar
(82,383 posts)How does any man have sex with a woman of 50/51?
calimary
(80,521 posts)WOMEN'S healthcare and WOMEN'S bodies.
How nice. SHEESH I feel "well-represented"...
ancianita
(35,704 posts)district that he can indulge his personal beliefs over the science that he needs continuing education in so badly? Somebody there has got to do something about this man. He's not fit to be out of the house, nevermind in the House.
I am so done with men like him. No offense intended toward most men, but if women reps constantly presumed to talk about men's reproductive medical treatment this way, men would shoot them.
elias7
(3,974 posts)he probably meant obstetrical care, but with that level of ignorance, he should not be a lawmaker
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Might explain why he is such a grouch . . .
and such a conservative.
If I can't have fun, you can't either.
What a grouch.
tooeyeten
(1,074 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)MineralMan
(146,116 posts)Gynecological services for aging women are crucial to their health. This idiot knows nothing about it and yet he waxes all pontifical about it. Feh!
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)Iggo
(47,470 posts)...then I would have spent fifty years as a woman on this planet and I'd know what the fuck I was talking about."
There. Fixed.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)He never had one.
tartan2
(314 posts)STFU about women's bodies? I'm just so sick of this crap and it just doesn't stop.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)KauaiK
(544 posts)I am a female over 50 (64) just diagnosed with a Ovarian mass (cantaloupe size) and Ovarian cancer. The ignorance of this man it beyond reasoning and logic.
No Vested Interest
(5,154 posts)May you have the best of medical care and emerge healed.
I hope all goes well for you. I am sorry this is what you are experiencing now. take care of you.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Boomerproud
(7,874 posts)shanti
(21,668 posts)K&R
SunSeeker
(51,295 posts)JHB
(37,122 posts)Rothsilberg won the seat by a squeak in 2012 (50.2%), and in the Republican primary this year was beaten by Lonnie Clark by nearly 60-40%). Possible good news: Rothsilberg is planning to run a write-in campaign. Go Allan, split that wingnut Republican vote!
The Democratic candidate in the race is Tom Brungardt
https://www.facebook.com/TomBrungardtforHouse
From the Ballotpedia page on the district:
Elections for the office of Kansas House of Representatives will take place in 2014. A primary election was held on August 5, 2014, and a general election will take place on November 4, 2014. The signature-filing deadline for candidates wishing to run in this election was June 2, 2014. Tom Brungardt was unopposed in the Democratic primary. Incumbent Allan Rothlisberg was defeated by Lonnie Clark in the Republican primary. Rothlisberg faces Brungardt in the general election.[2][3]
[hide]Kansas House of Representatives, District 65 Republican Primary, 2014
Candidate Vote % Votes
Lonnie Clark 59.4% 464
Allan Rothlisberg Incumbent 40.6% 317
Total Votes 781
2012
Rothlisberg won election in the 2012 election for Kansas House of Representatives District 65. He ran unopposed in the August 7 Republican primary and defeated Melody Saxton (D) in the general election, which took place on November 6, 2012.[4]
[hide]Kansas House of Representatives, District 65, General Election, 2012
Party Candidate Vote % Votes
Republican Allan Rothlisberg 50.2% 2,127
Democratic Melody Saxton 49.8% 2,110
Total Votes 4,237
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)between obstetrics and gynecology. Voters in his district must be a bunch of morons.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)How do these people function?
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)It would be that the stupid moron is ignorant of the difference between a gynecologist and an obstetrician. However even that would be more of chronic explosive brain diarrhea than a simple brain fart.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)TygrBright
(20,726 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)nothing to do with man parts. they are ... done.
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)republican jackasses.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)are, buying into this shit. lol
RKP5637
(67,008 posts)Solly Mack
(90,730 posts)progressoid
(49,754 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 5, 2014, 08:28 PM - Edit history (1)
And I''m 56. God, where does the GOP find these morons?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I cannot believe the absolutely stupid things Republicans say. Every day it is something abysmally ignorant. How lacking in common fucking sense can a person be to say something that dumb?
Wella
(1,827 posts)The DOE can administer a basic biology, chemistry and physics test. This way, we won't have idiots in Congress thinking that gynecological care ends at menopause or that the island of Guam will tip over if too many people are on one side of it.
lark
(22,941 posts)Like 1 in 4 women will get breast cancer after age 50, that colon cancer risks increase a lot after 50. Or maybe he does know and just doesn't give a shit? Either way he's an ignoramous and his wife is an idiot if she has sex with him. Cut him off since he hates older women so much.
Vinca
(50,150 posts)My lady parts must have disappeared and I didn't even know it.
proReality
(1,628 posts)he was found in a cabbage patch rather than discussing anatomy that might embarrass them.
Gotta feel sorry for those who don't live in reality...except when they end up in politics, where they should have a working knowledge of many subjects they may have to deal with.
cap
(7,170 posts)Men over 50 support them by overwhelming margins. Men over age 50 are taking Viagra so they can keep on having sex themselves and many want women of their own generation.
Just because he has given up sex with women of his own age doesn't mean all men want to do the same.
Ummm... Did he ever hear of vaginal dryness or vaginal atrophy?
Good reasons to go to see a Gyn.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)sheesh, watta maroon
chrisa
(4,524 posts)He was, however, going for the "I don't want to pay for womens' healthcare" bull crap that the Republicans frequently snivel about.
http://www.yourdu.net/Articles-News-c-2014-01-21-181982.113118-Rothlisberg-claims-quote-about-OBGYN-services-was-misconstrued.htm
logosoco
(3,208 posts)Does this happen the DAY of my birthday or the next day? Will it happen at night? Is it going to be messy?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)chrisa is saying he didnt really say, or he is saying he did not say. i will have to do some investigating....
maybe i will come up with some answers for you
funny, you
sheshe2
(83,128 posts)Just think what he is doing sitting on the House Commerce, Labor and Economic Development Committee...
trueblue2007
(17,111 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Kath1
(4,309 posts)We really need to get these assholes out of office. As soon as possible. GOTV 2014. They suck.
ReRe
(10,597 posts)... our House of Representatives holds a majority with idiots like this.
If this isn't being used in political ads against him on TV, why not?????
WillyT
(72,631 posts)I bet he's had a finger up his ass a time or two.
For provention... of course...
whathehell
(28,938 posts)betsuni
(25,060 posts)if it's legitimately over 50.
montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)So it's really Republicans who are trying to interfere with gynecologist's "practicing their love" ! At least with woman over 50.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,184 posts)Don't tell me: this guy was a doctor or something.
catbyte
(34,122 posts)Christ on a cracker. And Republicans wonder why the gender gap just keeps widening. BTW, I finally got around to watching that wedding gown ad for Rick Scott on YouTube. Jesus, what a tone deaf ad! I was heartened to see that the video had an 89% disapproval rating.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)that they have no right to decide. Color me totally unsurprised that they have no realistic understanding of female bodies.
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)don't need urological services after the age of 50 either, because, you know, prostates are yucky to think about or talk about. What a putz.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Are they ok with this idiocy?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Petrushka
(3,709 posts)RobinA
(9,862 posts)over 50 always thought that by the time she was over 50 know-nothings of this ilk would have died out.
treestar
(82,383 posts)He might have been given one in that instance. As he is, he did not get one.