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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 12:26 PM Oct 2014

Search resumes for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370

The hunt for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 entered a new phase Monday with the resumption of underwater search efforts for the aircraft that mysteriously vanished en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing six months ago.

Until now experts had been concentrating on mapping the seabed in the southern Indian Ocean search zone where the plane carrying 239 people is believed to have crashed.

The Malaysian-contracted GO Phoenix vessel, the first of three search ships, has now arrived in the area and is scanning the ocean floor for the jet, the Australian Transport Safety Bureau (ATSB) said.

Two additional vessels – equipped with sonar, video cameras and jet-fuel sensors – will join the GO Phoenix in coming weeks. Each ship will be staffed with 25-35 people working around the clock exploring the 23,000 square-mile search area.

The Ocean’s average depth of 2.5 miles has complicated recovery efforts.




http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/10/6/mh370-search-renews.html

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just in case anyone was wondering

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Search resumes for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (Original Post) Baclava Oct 2014 OP
Good, that will give CNN something to gnaw on besides Ebola. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #1
ha, good luck with that Baclava Oct 2014 #2
Bottom of the ocean get the red out Oct 2014 #3
The mystery is why they have found no wreckage, none. former9thward Oct 2014 #12
If it didn't all sink get the red out Oct 2014 #13
Yes, that's the point. former9thward Oct 2014 #17
Not if someone landed it on the water. FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #18
The Hudson River landing happened in the middle of the day. former9thward Oct 2014 #20
Thanks get the red out Oct 2014 #22
That is the point that I'm really confused about........ Logical Oct 2014 #25
Yes, to date the strangest disappearance I have heard about. former9thward Oct 2014 #27
Which is exactly why it may not have landed in the ocean Reter Oct 2014 #30
Right you are. former9thward Oct 2014 #34
I love your choice of the word "gnaw". Avalux Oct 2014 #19
Imagining RobinA Oct 2014 #4
yep, just imagining the Bahamas as mountaintops with edges that plunge miles deep Baclava Oct 2014 #8
Thank you for the update, I hope they find something. uppityperson Oct 2014 #5
I wonder if they will ever look at the possible northern route again? EX500rider Oct 2014 #6
I really do not understand the money and effort being spent on this. Planes do disappear. DebJ Oct 2014 #7
They most always try to recover downed planes.... Little Star Oct 2014 #9
So will they eventually stop? Or keep looking for eternity? n/t DebJ Oct 2014 #14
it hasn't even been a year JI7 Oct 2014 #15
They still need to know why Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #10
Finding it and knowing what happened can help tp prevent tragedies like this Raine Oct 2014 #16
That's why they have the NTSB crash investigations, you know Baclava Oct 2014 #23
Thanks! Call me crazy but I want to know what happened. Little Star Oct 2014 #11
You're welcome. I want to know too. It's Technology vs. The Ocean Baclava Oct 2014 #24
How do you know it's "The Ocean"? Reter Oct 2014 #29
I have ruled out time travel and UFO abductions for lack of evidence for the time being Baclava Oct 2014 #32
I have the same evidence as everyone else, none Reter Oct 2014 #35
That would be nice, but I doubt they will find out anything except the location of the wreck ohnoyoudidnt Oct 2014 #26
I doubt they'll get very far with that approach KamaAina Oct 2014 #21
It's time to think outside the box Reter Oct 2014 #28
Well, waiting for the thread that says cwydro Oct 2014 #31
I hope you're not laughing at my informative thread Baclava Oct 2014 #33

former9thward

(31,930 posts)
12. The mystery is why they have found no wreckage, none.
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 04:29 PM
Oct 2014

Most parts of a jet float. They have found nothing. Aviation experts can't explain it.

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
13. If it didn't all sink
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 04:31 PM
Oct 2014

wouldn't some kind of wreckage eventually wash up on land somewhere? Or in an area where someone would see it, shipping lane or something?

former9thward

(31,930 posts)
17. Yes, that's the point.
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 04:53 PM
Oct 2014

And that is why experts have been confounded by it. There is no way the whole plane could have just sunk. Hitting the ocean surface is like hitting concrete for a plane and it would have broke up into many parts -- and that is not counting all the baggage and bodies.

former9thward

(31,930 posts)
20. The Hudson River landing happened in the middle of the day.
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 06:39 PM
Oct 2014

This happened in the middle of the night. The sea would be be nothing but black with no points of reference. Hudson occurred from a very low altitude and low speed. Nothing comparable. And if some did land it that way then where is the plane? And why would they do it?

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
25. That is the point that I'm really confused about........
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 12:33 AM
Oct 2014

How is there no debris at all? A seat cushion, plastic panel, something. Really weird.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
30. Which is exactly why it may not have landed in the ocean
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:51 PM
Oct 2014

But no one in government or media will dare say it. Don't want to be labeled a kook or a woo.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
8. yep, just imagining the Bahamas as mountaintops with edges that plunge miles deep
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 01:39 PM
Oct 2014

just a few yards offshore

all those miles of inky darkness a few steps beyond your toes......... falling falling

Grand Bahama Bank, which rises more than 2 miles high from the Atlantic abyssal plain.
The Bahamas Islands are but the tips of these massive structures


EX500rider

(10,798 posts)
6. I wonder if they will ever look at the possible northern route again?
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 01:19 PM
Oct 2014

My understanding was that based on the time intervals in the satellite handshakes they established where on a either north or south arc that the plane was on.

They discounted the northern route and decided it went south.

The longer it goes with out finding it down there makes me think they need to look north again....it would have made it all the way to central asia, either one of the eastern Stans or western China. If it flew very low and kept to sparsely populated area and valleys they may have avoided detection.

Plus it made more sense to me, it left them with a place to land the plane. If they just wanted to fly it into the ocean no need to go 7 hours south to do that.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
7. I really do not understand the money and effort being spent on this. Planes do disappear.
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 01:29 PM
Oct 2014

There won't be closure as long as the families are waiting and waiting through endless, fruitless searches.

What will change if they find the plane?

With so many pressing problems in the world, shouldn't this money and manpower be devoted to somewhere productive?

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
9. They most always try to recover downed planes....
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 04:03 PM
Oct 2014

They need to study the black boxes and the plane itself to see what went wrong. It's part of trying to keep us safe and correct anything that may have caused the plane to go down.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
10. They still need to know why
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 04:08 PM
Oct 2014

if nothing else, then just to explain the course deviation and transponder shutoff...

and FWIW it has been a long time since a large commercial aircraft disappeared without a trace...Off the top of my head, I can't think of any since the 1970s...

Raine

(30,540 posts)
16. Finding it and knowing what happened can help tp prevent tragedies like this
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 04:52 PM
Oct 2014

from happening to future flights ... that's one reason for finding it.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
23. That's why they have the NTSB crash investigations, you know
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 09:07 PM
Oct 2014

To find out why planes crash.


or would you rather fly by zeppelin?






 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
24. You're welcome. I want to know too. It's Technology vs. The Ocean
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 11:50 PM
Oct 2014

We might not win, but we'll scour the seafloor 12,000 ft down in the abyss like nobody's business.














Robot Sea Drones to the rescue!

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
29. How do you know it's "The Ocean"?
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:46 PM
Oct 2014

Maybe that's the problem. The media and scientists and government officials are all just assuming it's the ocean.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
32. I have ruled out time travel and UFO abductions for lack of evidence for the time being
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 10:14 PM
Oct 2014

You have further evidence you'd like to share?

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
35. I have the same evidence as everyone else, none
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 02:22 PM
Oct 2014

Perhaps a remote tiny island is where it crashed? That would explain no floating debris.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
26. That would be nice, but I doubt they will find out anything except the location of the wreck
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 12:43 AM
Oct 2014

if they are lucky.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
21. I doubt they'll get very far with that approach
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 07:06 PM
Oct 2014

mine only has my contact info and employment and education history.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
28. It's time to think outside the box
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:40 PM
Oct 2014

They seem near 100% certain it crashed into the ocean, despite no hard evidence. Why won't the mainstream media talk about other possibilities? Are they afraid of looking like "kooks" or is it some more sinister reason?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
31. Well, waiting for the thread that says
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 10:00 PM
Oct 2014

ISIS has it. And they will fill it up with Biohazard waste from Ebola patients...and crash it in some populated area!

I've seen just about everything else postulated here lol.

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