Watch: Cop Caught on Tape Threatening to Take Baby Away from Interracial Couple for No Reason

[MrScorpio]

Watch: Cop Caught on Tape Threatening to Take Baby Away from Interracial Couple for No Reason Before Arresting Them

An Ohio police officer recently threatened to take away an interracial couple’s two week old infant during a traffic stop after the couple refused to get out of their car.

Officer Christopher Denny of the City of Sandusky Police Department stopped Kathryn Said after watching her pick up Andre Stockett outside an apartment building on Wednesday.

The Officer ran Said’s driver’s license and confirmed that it was valid.

An Ohio police officer recently threatened to take away an interracial couple’s two week old infant during a traffic stop after the couple refused to get out of their car.

Officer Christopher Denny of the City of Sandusky Police Department stopped Kathryn Said after watching her pick up Andre Stockett outside an apartment building on Wednesday.

The Officer ran Said’s driver’s license and confirmed that it was valid.


http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-cops-caught-on-tape-threatening-to-take-baby-away-from-biracial-couple-for-no-reason/

[Terra Alta]

1. They are lucky they weren't shot.

Sad that has to be said, but it's true.

The cop should be fired and I hope the couple sues the police department.

[JimDandy]

39. The cop will be useless to the Sandusky PD from now on

as an eye witness in any proceeding such as a trial, since he incorrectly identified the passenger as Mr. Newell. This video will be out there to impeach him forever as being an officer who can correctly identify anyone.

And the dog must be retired as it also provably is incapable of doing its job: identifying a car with drugs.

So yes, fire both Officer Christopher Denny and the 'Officer' dog now and sue them to kazoo.

Yea for citizen videos!

[uponit7771]

59. This is a progressive idea, take videos and send them to defense attorneys...

... I'm sure they wont have a showing in court unless the case is pertinant to the video but worth a try

[JimDandy]

63. Exactly. n/t

[justiceischeap]

62. I've read that drug dogs can be trained to give "false positives"

So the cops have probable cause for a stop and search.

The dog probably does his job correctly and as expected.

[Logical]

80. They lie about the dog hitting all the time. Nt

[cui bono]

112. I don't doubt that. n/t

[raging moderate]

2. So black Americans are legally required to carry valid IDs at all times?

Also to make sure any car they are riding in has its headlights on at all times. Even in the bright sunlight with the sun ABOVE the officer's shoulder, shining in our eyes?

And they have the LEGAL OBLIGATION to make it easier for white policemen to savagely beat, shoot, and sic police dogs on them? How are they supposed to get back and forth from work, in one piece?

And this poor young mother is ONLY TWO WEEKS POSTPARTUM! If she showed any unusual vaginal bleeding after this, her lawyers should add that to the charges on the lawsuit.

If you have ever GIVEN BIRTH, then you know what I mean. Otherwise, learn some respect for the process.

Pulled over for having headlights off in bright sunlight? Or maybe for having a black man sitting beside her in the car!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

9. There's a history of black men getting killed for even LOOKING at white women.

[1StrongBlackMan]

31. Bingo ...

Black males are at risk whenever they have a white woman in a vehicle.

[Number23]

40. There is an entire cottage industry (and has been for some time) vested in the idea that all black

men want a white woman. It is a BS, racist lie that will not die despite the truth of the matter (that almost 80% of black men marry black women) and that the majority of interracial marriages in the US actually consist of Hispanic woman/white man. Where are the endless jokes and stereotypes about that?

There is power in that lie. Some have made light of it, it's even been the brunt of "jokes" in stupid movies but for years that was something used to terrorize black men and to justify the most brutal, inhuman treatment against them. All a white man had to do was WHISPER that a black man was caught even looking at a white woman and a mob would suddenly materialize out of the ether. The same lie about wanting white women was also a very common claim used in the systematic slaughter of Native Americans.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

75. It was the trigger for the Tulsa race riot of 1921....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot

BTW: Look at the history of race riots and you will see it's WHITE PEOPLE who flip out and go on a murdering rampage.

This one is infuriating too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Race_Riot_of_1908

[Voice for Peace]

86. The lie is because white men feared their women would prefer black men.

In many cases, they brought their fear to fruition, by being such
insecure pasty assholes. Edit to add, this is not generic to all white
men.

[Number23]

122. I think it's that but I think that lie has more power as a tool to EXTERMINATE men of other

colors.

I have no doubt that some white men were/are in fear that white women would prefer other men but I truly believe that the reason that lie took off, gained steam and will not die is because it is used as a tool to justify alot of abhorrent behavior and attitudes towards black men.

The two most prolific types of interracial marriage in the United States are Hispanic woman/white man followed by Asian woman/white man. But yet, all you hear is the tired old BS about all black men wanting a white woman. There's a PhD thesis in there somewhere about how such a massive disconnect has been and is still being perpetuated.

[Sparhawk60]

46. Of Course

Of course, if they would have gotten out of the car, they would have been shot for attacking the police officer.

[bobclark86]

68. Actually, most places you are...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes

TL;DR: About half of states -- including Ohio -- have Stop and Identify laws. It's actually a fourth-degree misdemeanor in Ohio.

And no, dogs sniffing around a car isn't illegal (SCOTUS ruled in 2005 and at other points)

[JDPriestly]

73. She identified herself with her license.

He did not identify himself.

But, I think that a jury would be so upset by the conduct of the police that the legal details would not matter much.

The conduct of the police officers is very disturbing. Their attitudes.

The police appear to have been using the technicalities of the law to harass citizens who were minding their own business.

And the fact that the two-week-old baby was in the back of the car is very disturbing.

It makes me fear for my grandchildren.

If I as a grandmother were on a jury on either a civil or a criminal case, I would be inclined to vote against the officers. They were too insistent on imposing their authority, on feeling big and powerful and not listening to what was being said. It sure seemed to me that the race of the passenger in the car was affecting the attitude of the officers. As a white, older woman, I am pretty sure I would never be treated like that. Probably wouldn't be treated like that even if I had broken a traffic law. In fact, been there and know I would have been waved on after a short and very respectful interview.

I just don't think a jury would be impressed with that police work. It was not courteous. It was not respectful toward the people in the car. The stop could have been done in a cordial way. The officer made a mistake and refused to admit it and look for the person he was looking for.

That was shameful.

[valerief]

77. If they ever see a jury, that video would not be admissible as evidence. The criminal justice system

would ensure that.

[JimDandy]

106. If the police's video of the incident is admitted,

I don't see why this one wouldn't be admitted also.

[valerief]

123. Because it doesn't benefit the cops. nt

[marions ghost]

138. A jury--!

You have to understand that juries are not selected for liberals. The opposite is true.

This couple would have a hard time in front of a jury. The fact that the guy did not immediately hand over his ID will be seen as obstructing.

And yet of course he was right not to do it. But I doubt they could win any case.

The video is damaging, in shedding light on this problem. Maybe that is the only justice they can hope for.

[Logical]

81. FFS, this is not true....

You need to identify yourself, not show Id.

Big difference.

[yurbud]

124. I was thinking about them as parents the whole time. They were in a no win situation.

They didn't want things to escalate because they had their baby.

[Beaverhausen]

3. Link?

my old computer can't play the video. thanks!

[MrScorpio]

7. Fixed

Thanks!

[2naSalit]

4. Like the lady said...

I'm sick of this sh*t.

[CincyDem]

5. Welcome to Ohio

The Buckeye State...where we protect our citizens from those who are:

DWB: driving while black.
DWWB: driving while with black.
SWB: shopping while black.
BWB: breathing while black.

Aw hell, let's add

AWB: Anything while black.

I'm sure that our rights oriented Attorney General Mike DeWine will get right on this, making sure that the friendly officer involved gets a commendation for his tenacity. Great example of moving the goal posts minute to minute, twisting the story to see what fits.

While I would like to have seen the passenger keep a little more cool, it's got to be a highly stressful situation and I hope an attorney takes the cops to the cleaners on this one.

[antiquie]

6. Horrid.

[phylny]

8. I am so sorry for this couple and their baby.

I am so grateful for everyone who is beginning to tape the police, because otherwise, it's "their word" against yours.

[Number23]

10. The terror in that woman's voice. She would have gotten out of the car, stripped down or done

ANYTHING the second that lying piece of shit told her that they were taking her baby to CPS. And that is EXACTLY what the cop was counting on.

I hope the two of them sue the cops for false arrest, harassment, mental distress and every thing they can think of. And I hope they win it ALL.

[alittlelark]

11. That was disgusting.....

[logosoco]

12. That was inhumane.

Not only that, the article does not say if they were charged with anything. If that video was in court, there is no way they could find the couple guilty of anything. The police were harassing them for no reason. This is a colossal waste of tax payers money....the stop itself, the man power they used on that and the administrative costs that will be spend dealing with the incident.
I would like to think that the people who can't see the inhumanity in the situation could at least see that.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

22. Ever see the movie "Hoodwinked"?

At one point Mr. Flippers says, "We don't lock you up for being weird looking."

One of the cops (a pig) calls the station and says quietly, "You know that weird looking guy we have locked up? Yeah, better let him go."

These cops think getting uppity is a crime.

If I had it my way these cops would be live streaming to a citizen panel.

[Stand and Fight]

79. Uppity? Really? n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

82. Abolutely....

Ever since Obama there are white cops who feel it's part of their JOB to make DAMN SURE that black people know their place.

[noiretextatique]

88. racial profiling it is a COLOSSAL waste of taxpayers' money

not to mention: very dangerous to those being profiled. but the assholes of america believe the police SHOULD harass and kill people, especially black people.

[MohRokTah]

13. I identified three outrageous criminals in that tape.

All three had badges.

NEver trust a cop. Never speak to a cop. If a cop asks you, do you know why I pulled you over, say no.

Never get out of the car.

That poor man was in fear for his life, and rightly so Three murderous criminals had him in their control.

[Mercy_Queen]

48. That's poor advice.

They can lawfully order you out of the vehicle for nearly any reason. Refusing to get out needlessly escalates the situation and will likely result in your arrest. Comply, document, film, and complain.

[MohRokTah]

53. And getting out of the car while black can get you killed, video or no video. eom

[unblock]

52. saying "no" to "do you know why i pulled you over" is not recommended.

saying yes and offering what could be taken as a confession is ill-advised, but saying no could also be taken to indicate ignorance of something you should have been aware of. remember your miranda rights, *anything* you say can be entered into evidence against you.

best response is something like, "please tell me", or "i'm sure you're about to tell me".

[Mariana]

97. Better yet, ask them, before they have a chance to ask you.

"Good morning, officer. Why'd you pull me over?"

[DawgHouse]

103. "anything you say.."

can and WILL be used against you." They tell your right in the warning that if you say anything it WILL be used against you.

[unblock]

119. the "and will" part is a logical error, and my understanding is it's rarely used outside hollywood

it was in the original miranda decision, but on its face, it doesn't make sense. the prosecution is going to pick and choose from what you say. will the prosecution use your saying "gesundheit" after the officer sneezes against you? not likely.

[whathehell]

55. The cops are assholes,

probably racist assholes, and should be held accountable for bothering this couple.

and I definitely do NOT blame the guy for refusing to get out of the car. However,

there is nothing to indicate that these cops are, as you say, "murderous criminals".

[MohRokTah]

57. These days, it is safest to assume all cops are murderous criminals until proven otherwise. eom

[whathehell]

84. I think that's too broad a brush, but we can agree to disagree. n/t

[DontTreadOnMe]

14. What was the follow-up? Were they arrested?

These kinds of videos need to be shown everywhere.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

17. See post #16. nt

[CaptainTruth]

15. Disgusting. I was sad to see them get out of the car. A black man in America

... can be killed for getting out of a car with cops present.

Does anyone know the outcome of this?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

16. They were charged for interfering with the bogus "investigation"...

Mr. Stockett eventually was taken into custody and searched. Police said they found his identification and $1,000. Officers also searched the vehicle and reported that they did not find any drugs inside the car. Both Ms. Said and Mr. Stockett were charged with obstructing official business and released.

Both appeared in Sandusky Municipal Court on Thursday and pleaded not guilty. Their next court appearances are scheduled for Nov. 18.

Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2014/10/06/Video-of-Sandusky-traffic-stop-goes-viral-after-man-records-his-arrest.html#g5TjWQQtahtPVM9b.99

[jwirr]

23. And the baby? While they were being arrested. What was happening to their baby? When they

sue it should be against the police department and the city of Sandusky for hiring these three idiots. It is actually getting insane out there.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

25. Good question. Article doesn't address the baby. I hope someone on DU who is in that area

can follow this up for us as the story develops.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

24. Wanna bet they took his money?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

26. This story has its hooks in me now. I want to know what the outcome is. nt

[uponit7771]

58. +1, saw John Olivers piece just yesterday....scares the shit out of me, fuck ebola

[Spitfire of ATJ]

78. It's head cold season too. Everyone is going to freak out.

[mackerel]

34. is it illegal to carry cash in Sandusky?

[LibertyLover]

56. Thanks to the war on drugs,

cops can legally confiscate cash they find on you if they determine you might be going to use it to purchase drugs. And you can pretty much kiss it good-by because getting it back is going to cost more than what they took. A few weeks ago my husband was going to go to a junkyard in Ohio that specializes in Jeeps to get some parts for his Cherokee. The place only takes cash, so he had about a thousand dollars on him so that he could get what he wanted. I was terrified that something would happen and he'd be stopped by a cop and the money found. Fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it, his transmission blew a seal in western Maryland and he had to turn around and limp the Cherokee home by pouring transmission fluid in it every few miles.

I'm sure you are wondering how the cops determine if you are going to use the cash to buy drugs. Well, carrying large amounts of cash while black is, ipso facto, proof positive that you intend to buy drugs. Several years ago I read about a black landscaper who was heading to an auction of plants. All transactions were to be in cash, so he had several thousand dollars on him. I don't remember the reason he got pulled over - probably one of those nuisance stops that cops use to try and find some reason to arrest you - and searched. His money was found and he was arrested for intent to purchase. He finally was released, but never got his money back. His lawyer told him not to even bother because it would cost too much.

[Mariana]

99. All they have to do is get that dog to "alert" on the money

and they can pretend it's drug money and confiscate it.

[Laffy Kat]

18. Made my blood boil. nt

[gopiscrap]

19. Fucking asshole pigs

they're out of control everywhere!

[Liberal_in_LA]

20. kick and rec

[rgbecker]

21. People are wising up to this American version of the Gastopo.

Come on legal scholars....do you have to get out of the car when they tell you to?

What if you get out and they tell you get back in and you don't?

Just wondering.

[1StrongBlackMan]

33. That all depends ...

if you are Black, the answer is Yes; if you are white, the answer is probably not. Do you feel lucky?

[AtheistCrusader]

27. You do have to identify yourself.

Andre was wrong about that. What you don't have to do, is provide ID. You don't have to supply your drivers license or anything else. But when challenged like that by the police, you do have to identify yourself. The officer then needs probable cause to push further and positively confirm that identity.

Other than that, the officers were fucking dead assed wrong. The sun was higher in the sky than his head was. That was a fully BS excuse. And we all know drug dogs are full of shit.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21225441

http://www.radford.edu/content/va-chiefs/home/june2013/harris.html

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/03/26/175359576/drug-sniffing-dog-case-fails-supreme-courts-smell-test

Edit:

Here's Ohio law on headlight requirements. They have at LEAST an hour before sunset. AT LEAST.
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4513.03

[KurtNYC]

50. I have a hand signal for my dog to sit

I could make it look like he is "alerting" on any person or any thing without saying a word. So can the cops.

[AtheistCrusader]

60. Exactly, and here I give the courts credit.

They not only acknowledged that, but they required either impeccable documentation of any drug dog's performance, including the misses, or independent testing.

I was very happy when I saw that study that showed the dogs would alert wherever an officer wanted them to. That was very telling, and confirmed a lot of suspicions for me.

[AverageJoe90]

28. Crooked cops like this are what makes ALL officers look bad.

Make no mistake, folks. This is a real problem.

[Mariana]

102. Notice that all the cops present were participating.

That's what we see almost every time there's a vid of abuse with more than one cop involved. They almost never step in to protect the victims of their "bad" colleagues, and more often than not, they join in the fun themselves.

[Cali_Democrat]

29. Do the white people in denial finally get it now?

If not now, when?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025627854

[Iggo]

54. Nope.

To them, that's just One Bad Cop. In fact, all three of them are each just One Bad Cop. Just like the thousands of other One Bad Cops you read about every day.

[AtheistCrusader]

61. I hear it now.

I didn't growing up. Because there were no voices to express that side of the story to me. There was always a presumption of equality.

Blame the Pledge's lies, 'justice for all' or whatever, but this message did not penetrate deep into the communities I was raised in, so it was always viewed as whining or excuses, and any attempt to address it was viewed as 'reverse discrimination'.

It sucks, but I'm glad I can at least see it now, and try and do something about it.

[Cali_Democrat]

66. Thank you for trying to do something about it!

[bettyellen]

71. now imagine being a child in the shittiest overcrowded school hearing that pledge every day-

and knowing it is a damned lie. Kids know.

[sakabatou]

30. The amount of rage... I can't even

[mackerel]

32. I hope that baby was okay!

[ReRe]

35. This is happening...

... all over the country. It seems like they don't have enough to do, so they create something to do. Perhaps they have a quota to meet, and the city takes no excuses for unmet quotas. City needs money to pay their little fiefdom's bills, doncha' know.

It's a GD shame people can't drive down the effing street without being pulled over by low-life jerks like those. Every single effing day we read story after after story of police brutality. And, yes, I would classify this as police brutality. That young woman was two weeks out from having that baby and didn't need this GD hassle. Women know exactly how she felt.

Injustice hurts us all, friends. No matter where it occurs.

[Marrah_G]

36. This has to fucking stop

[Unca Jim]

37. ...and

that money he was carrying? Gone.

[Tarheel_Dem]

38. Considering the times, let's be glad that's all he did. It could've been so much worse. n/t

[raging moderate]

41. The poor new parents, exhausted and terrified, both of them!

Yes, the father would have done better to stay calm and refrain from profanities, but he was also a new parent. Anybody who has ever had a baby knows what I mean. Constant vigilance, sleepless nights, anxious performance of unfamiliar meticulous nursing duties, bewilderingly powerful love for a new tiny fragile creature, the stark duty of defending this new life even at the cost of your own. And then, this happens to them! Any cop who has a heart of flesh rather than stone should respect that.

Also, knowing about the ease with which money is confiscated by these neo-feudalist thugs masquerading as peace officers, of course he would feel a desperate need to keep out of their clutches with the one thousand dollars we now know he had with him. A huge sum, and a devastating loss to any couple in modest circumstances! Of course, he would be distraught!

[MrScorpio]

42. Frankly, more people should just tell these fascist pigs to fuck off

The cops want everyone to be fearful little sheep. If we refuse to give them our fear, what are they going to do to us that they already haven't done?

[hedgehog]

43. I have no idea what my rights are at a traffic stop.

I had the notion that if you refused to get out of the car when ordered to do so, you'd be liable to arrest for refusing to obey reasonable order of the officer, or something like that. I do know, lots of people have been dragged out of their cars and handcuffed. It would be worth a separate post discussing rights at a traffic stop, and whether they vary from state to state or not. (hint, hint )

Getting back into the car against orders after getting out is another aspect of this.

[MrScorpio]

44. Cops don't want you to know what your rights are

Because they don't give one flying fuck about them.

Which is why its incumbent upon us to teach and exercise them ourselves.

[tblue37]

115. They don't care about our rights--nor do most of them even have a clue about

what those rights are. Cops really *don't* know much about the law they are sworn to uphold, not that they'd give a darn if they did.

[Warren DeMontague]

45. "you look exactly like a person that has a warrant"

...

K&R for exposure.

[hobbit709]

49. I remember being stopped for DWLH

Driving While Long-Haired.
They're excuse was always "We had a report this vehicle was stolen"

[Bonx]

92. I was surprised they do actually look similar

[Sunlei]

105. Those men do NOT look similar at all.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

135. They do look similar

One's head is tilted up a bit more, disguising some of the more similar features, like the eyes slanting downwards, the bald head, the full face, the close set ears, similar beards. And how recent is the photo of the wanted man?

Can I tell that the pictures are of two different men? Sure. I can see the differences. However, I'm not sure that I would have been able to do so by looking at a photo at one location and seeing this man inside the car (which brings up the whole eye witness identification debacle in court, but that's another topic).

The cops were assholes, but the victim should have identified himself (no need for hardcopy identification just tell them his name). I believe he was the first to escalate, which is why the cops may very well get away with being class "A" assholes....again.

Ever heard the phrase "A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing?" The victim may have known his rights, in general, but he did not comply with the law.

The good thing that will come out of this is the fact that this video is going to be played and replayed all over the country. Again, cops will have another reason to get their shit together, and citizens are becoming better informed about the officers who are there to "protect and serve."

[Stellar]

139. I guess they both look similar if they are both bald with a beard. But...

look at the eye brows on both men. Look at the shape of the nose on these two men. They are NOT the same man. That is where the similarity ends with bald head and beard. I agree with you.

[bravenak]

130. No they don't.

Head shape, different. Eye shape, different. Mouth shape, different. Skin tone, different. Angle of nose/nostrils, different. Only thing similar is they are both bald with beards, but their beard are different with a different hair texture. They don't even look related.

[Ms. Toad]

134. Agree as to everything but skin tone.

The second photograph is so bad that it is impossible to tell skin tone from it. Might be similar, might not be.

[DLevine]

47. Fascist pigs. nt

[Iggo]

51. Yay, Cops!

They're the best!

[Gothmog]

64. This cop is out of control

This is horrible There are so many violations of due process that it is not even funny. This police department is going to get sued

[Rex]

65. And some still refuse to see white privilege.

I hope he loses his job over this.

[AndyTiedye]

93. These are Violations of RIGHTS

The police have been violating people's RIGHTS here, including several that are enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

Certainly white privilege exists, but this isn't it. For something to be a "white privilege" it needs to first be a privilege.
RIGHTS ARE NOT PRIVILEGES.

The fact that the police are generally getting away with violating the Constitutional rights of minorities does not turn those rights into privileges. It means that the police are breaking the laws that they are sworn to uphold.

[Rex]

94. IF that was a white couple and a white baby, that conversation and stop would have never happened.

And yes they got their rights violated too.

[Cali_Democrat]

127. Exactly. nt

[Sunlei]

144. police use those same tactics on 'lower class' persons of all races too.

To get through todays 'military police' nets one has to be not only the 'right skin color', one has to appear a wealthy privileged person.

police never get fired for stomping on peoples rights.

[hifiguy]

67. Kick and Rec

Sickening. The cops have declared war on the populace. It will come back to bite them in the long run and deservedly so.

[Marrah_G]

69. I am white

I have never been asked to step out during a traffic stop and none of my passengers have ever been ordered to show their identification.

That is my white privilege.

[cui bono]

117. I'm white and I was actually asked to get into the officer's vehicle

when driving in Virginia with a CA license. He said I was going 20mph over the speed limit and I told him I was distracted because we were lost. So he had me sit in his car while he wrote up the ticket, which I thought was odd. I had a male friend, also white, as a passenger. It was all I could do to not bob my head up and down for my friend to see if he looked back.

As is turned out, he pulled out a map and showed me how to get where we were going. Still seemed odd. Now if I were a black woman I would not have gotten in that car. I don't think I would do it today. That was a long time ago.

[hollysmom]

131. Interesting, the cop who stopped when I was stuck on the highway, called triple A for me

but I was not allowed in his car, I had to stand outside and give him the information they needed. It was all my exs fault, the gas guage ws broken, so I estimated gas needy by mileage. but my husband took my car out when I was sleeping and he burned fuel like no tomorrow racing around with a heavy foot, so I had no idea I was near empty and it was pre-cell phone.

Note - gave up on triple A after 3 hours and walked 4 miles to a gas station, never use them again, instead I have on star and they work like magic. Triple A also never showed up for 2 flat tires and a loose wire that I ended up changing and fixing. hate them

[herding cats]

70. They need to file a complaint.

I'm glad he's fighting it, but their needs to be a complaint filed as well. That was a complete joke and he very wisely caught it on video. Hopefully now that it's getting attention someone will step forward to represent Mr Stockett and Ms Said.

[ZombieHorde]

74. Labels are magic.

If this was any other group of people, we would want them locked up. But since they have been assigned the label "police officers," people will say most encounters with this group are peaceful and we should all give them money.

[Android3.14]

76. Horrible experience, but the driver should have complied with getting out of the car

I can see why he would be upset, but refusing to get out of the car was the wrong move.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_v._Mimms
Not saying it is right or wrong, just saying that he was not free to refuse the directive.

[nomorenomore08]

91. Maybe he feared being beaten up or shot? I wouldn't blame him in that case, given recent events.

[Android3.14]

101. I understand, but that isn't going to hold up in court

The guy in the car was saying he didn't have to get out, because it was just a traffic stop. However, he was mistaken.

[mackerel]

113. The man wasn't the driver, he was a passenger. This happened to a friend of mine

he cracked open the window just a little bit and gave his name. That's all you have to do. My friend also asked to speak to the officers supervisor. It's just posturing and authority control. The officers were able to get this guy out of the car so they won that round.

[ctsnowman]

83. Maybe people

need to take the term "the War on (people with) drugs" a little more seriously. The cops sure have.

[debbyk]

85. Damned either way

Unfortunately these days it's hard to know what to do. The guy who reached back into his car for his license was trying to comply with what he was told to do and the cop still shot him. He wasn't black so cop didn't aim for his heart so he should consider himself lucky?
And after this travesty, should this couple consider themselves lucky the bastards didn't shoot them, miss, and kill the baby?

[noiretextatique]

89. YES

and i bet they feel lucky too. is is sickening that one should have to feel lucky to survive an encounter with public servants.

[justiceischeap]

95. Actually, he was black. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

98. Both victims were black actually. nt

[tblue37]

116. ?? The man who was shot in that video *was* black. nt

[The Wizard]

87. Nothing short of

domestic terrorism.

[noiretextatique]

90. cops to black people, and the people who love them: FUCK YOU!

we will lie, cheat, and kill to keep you in your place. it is our job.

[Brigid]

96. Wow, what is wrong with these Gestapo cops??

The woman was "nervous"? Does this idiot cop know how many innocent people have been raped or killed by LEOs?? Of course they're nervous!

[cui bono]

118. I just watched an episode of Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee

and Seinfeld got pulled over in an expensive sports car for speeding and Chris Rock was his passenger and he was nervous! That tells you a lot.

[Sunlei]

100. police are out of control. States are in charge of their police. State citizens need Federal help.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

104. Sue the bastards. That is the only way to get their attention.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

[etherealtruth]

107. I am so sick of this sh*t and do not know how to battle this

[peace13]

128. This....

Cracks me up!

[cui bono]

142. What is that from? n/t

[etherealtruth]

143. The Corduroy FB meme?

[cui bono]

145. Yes. n/t

[liberalmuse]

108. I do not like a lot of policeman...

I was watching a documentary on 1964 earlier today. I've been feeling a lot of anger towards policeman these days, and that just fueled my disgust. Seeing them beat up persons of color using fire hoses and attack dogs made me sad and unbelievably angry that they are still in charge and pulling the same ol' shit. Virtually nothing has changed since then. Old white racist men are still oppressing people of color, beating up young protestors, preying on women and the elderly and abusing their power in every way imaginable. I'm sick to death of it.

[workinclasszero]

109. Oh FUCK LAWSUIT!

I'd be suing the living shit out of these fascists!

[marions ghost]

137. Good luck

doesnt usually work.

[tapermaker]

110. This is not going to end well

someday a bunch of afro americans are going to pool their resources and hire P.I.`s to find home addresses and family photos of racist killer cops, just like the teahadist fundies do w/ abortionists.Then they will post them online with old west wanted posters.This is the only thing that might give them pause.I doubt it though without their racist belief system they would be lost.Once this happens then it will be an all out race war

[nolabear]

111. I'm just sick. This is classic abuse. It's like watching an abusive relationship.

"I didn't say what you heard. If you don't do what I say I'll make you pay. It was the violation, the dog hit on the car, it was obstruction, you are making me do this because you are guilty of something or other and I'll make sure that you get punished."

Jesus Christ. It's unconscionable.

[yuiyoshida]

114. Holy crap thats scary...

Any cop can say you are obstructing... fuck. COPS ARE OUT OF CONTROL. These guys are thugs, pure and simple.

[marym625]

120. I'm so fucking angry!

My god what the FUCK!

[whereisjustice]

121. That's exactly why they are called pigs. eom

[yurbud]

125. Someone needs to tell cops, you see the back of a phone pointed at you, back the fuck down

or you'll lose your job and cost your city millions of dollars.

[yurbud]

126. every black guy needs to get that app that automatically uploads video

so cops can't take their phone and erase it.

[peace13]

129. More at the link below..

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/news/law-enforcement/6230391

[elleng]

132. Good info.

Thanks.

[peace13]

133. I sail out of Sandusky....

Home of Cedar Point a mega amusement park, employer to many many foreign summer workers. One has to wonder how bad the abuse problem is up there.

The city is twenty miles from a new multi million dollar Homeland Security facility. Officers cruising about the city has caused concern for the locals as well. Disregard for the Constitution is pretty universal in Sandusky, I fear.

Glad the info was helpful. : )

[elleng]

136. I'm generally familiar with the geography.

Attended Miami U. Have wondered about the attitudes up there. The local officials did sound properly concerned, and interested in addressing Mr. Stockett's well-articulated concerns.

[peace13]

140. That is good.

One has to wonder where the attitude in the lower ranks comes from and would hope that the use of phones and cameras would begin to change standard operations

My guess is that non whites have been treated like this forever and we are finally being enlightened by social media. It is so easy to turn a blind eye when the crime is not witnessed. People need to know their rights and stand tall like this couple tried to do. They did their best.

As a mom I can not understate the terror this woman was feeling. She is still in danger of losing her child. They will not back down.

[elleng]

141. Yes, social media is helpful,

and will not tolerate attempt to take the child, bet on it.