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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 09:57 AM Oct 2014

Want New, More Progressive Democratic Candidates?

Well, it's too late this year. The primaries are over. Here in Minnesota, turnout for the primary elections was extremely low. Not as low, however, as turnout for the state's precinct caucuses in February, nor as low as the turnout for the endorsing conventions in May. Those two events, along with the primaries, chose the candidates who are on the ballot for the November 4, election. I'm lucky in my districts. We've selected excellent, progressive candidates for November's election. Not every jurisdiction did that, though.

Do you want better Democratic candidates? Then you have to go do the work required to get them on the ballot. Are you thinking about not voting, even in the November general election? Well, that's a lousy idea, but not as lousy as not participating in choosing the candidates who will be on the ballot. In November, you'll have two viable choices. One will be a Democrat and the other will be a Republican. In some places, there isn't even a Democrat on the ballot at all. If you don't even bother to vote in November, why should you expect the Democratic Party to present strong, progressive candidates?

It's very important to show up and vote in November. We have the Senate, House, and state legislators to vote for. Not every Democrat will be as progressive as you might like, but every last one of them is better than the Republican on the ballot. So, go vote. Get to work on GOTV efforts. Let's do the best we can with the choices we have.

After November, though, you have an opportunity to select better candidates for the 2016 election. The process of selecting candidates begins not long after the 2014 general election. Get involved. Help pick the candidates. And then, GOTV for every damned election, including the primaries. GOTV for the elections that choose your local officials, too.

Every election counts. Everything you can do to help find and elect the best possible candidates helps. What doesn't help is waiting for others to do the job. They're not you. They may well not think as you do. It's up to you, finally.

BTW, if you're already involved in local Democratic politics, I'm not talking to you in this post. If you're already working to get the best possible candidates on the ballot, I'm not talking to you in this post. If you're not doing those things, though, I sure as heck am talking to you.

GOTV 2014 and Beyond! Get Involved!

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Want New, More Progressive Democratic Candidates? (Original Post) MineralMan Oct 2014 OP
I hear the complaints cycle after cycle MohRokTah Oct 2014 #1
Yup. Complaining does nothing. Working on getting MineralMan Oct 2014 #2
The 101st Chairborne needs to stop typing and show up at some Party msanthrope Oct 2014 #3
Exactly. Your local party organization will be overjoyed to see you. MineralMan Oct 2014 #4
This is a great post. Your local influence is more important than the tweets msanthrope Oct 2014 #5
Thanks. Our local party organization is aging, too. MineralMan Oct 2014 #6
Too many think marching in protests is all there is to activism. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #7
Street activism is important in letting current elected officials know MineralMan Oct 2014 #10
DUzy!! KamaAina Oct 2014 #27
For once we agree! Scuba Oct 2014 #8
On this, we'll always agree! MineralMan Oct 2014 #9
And during the primaries you argue that the progressive candidate can't win. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #11
Uh, no, I don't. MineralMan Oct 2014 #20
I probably shouldn't have said "you" since I couldn't know. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #28
It's a good idea to pay close attention to the pronouns you use. MineralMan Oct 2014 #29
Thank you, I guess. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #30
This should fit here tiredtoo Oct 2014 #12
that's interesting. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2014 #13
right on! BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2014 #14
Get ready for the next round of primaries Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #15
Exactly! And in November, vote for the Democrat. MineralMan Oct 2014 #21
Part of the problem is that the people who are in dire need of progressive representation... YoungDemCA Oct 2014 #16
Those who don't vote don't choose anything. MineralMan Oct 2014 #22
K&R nt Andy823 Oct 2014 #31
Agreed Liberalynn Oct 2014 #17
Thanks. Vote for the Democrat and then work your ass off to MineralMan Oct 2014 #23
There you go Android3.14 Oct 2014 #18
Democrats also find ways to get angry and not vote resulting in a self-fulfilling prophecy kansasobama Oct 2014 #19
Each of us can help bring reluctant voters to the polling place. MineralMan Oct 2014 #25
But why would I want to do the hard work of FINDING candidates? brooklynite Oct 2014 #24
Yah, you can just do that, I suppose. MineralMan Oct 2014 #26
How about Independent New Democratic Progressives? kentuck Oct 2014 #32
How about them? MineralMan Oct 2014 #34
And don't forget to screen for Trojan Horses... polichick Oct 2014 #33
+1000000 woo me with science Oct 2014 #35
Yes, and it encourages more progressives to run as well. One of the reason more don't run is because Chathamization Oct 2014 #36
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
1. I hear the complaints cycle after cycle
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:00 AM
Oct 2014

And I still see the dismal primary turnouts.

It all starts at the bottom. If you don't personally know your local party committee person, you are part of the problem. You will never see more progressive candidates at any level because you have already refused to get involved.

I am very serious here. Anybody who complains about the lack of progressive Democratic candidates who cannot name their local level party officials are the reason why there is a lack of progressive Democratic candidates.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
2. Yup. Complaining does nothing. Working on getting
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:02 AM
Oct 2014

the very best candidates on the ballot does something. Activism begins long before the election. Long, long before.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
4. Exactly. Your local party organization will be overjoyed to see you.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:08 AM
Oct 2014

It's depressing to see how few people bother to get involved at the local level. At my precint's caucus this year, there were four people present. We all went to the district conventions. We could have sent 16 people to those conventions. We got four. If we had 16, we'd have been the only precinct with a full complement of delegates. The power of that is huge.

By getting involved locally, your influence is magnified many times. If people want change, they can have it, but they have to take part in the process. If they don't, they affect nothing.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
5. This is a great post. Your local influence is more important than the tweets
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:15 AM
Oct 2014

you send out into the ether.

I'm in my 40s...and I am the youngest participant at my precinct's meetups.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
6. Thanks. Our local party organization is aging, too.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:17 AM
Oct 2014

Right now, just about anyone who wants a position on the main committees can have one. Many of the old-timers would love to hand over the reins to new people.

But few people show up for the meetings where those things happen. All someone has to do is show up and be willing to move into those positions.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
7. Too many think marching in protests is all there is to activism.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:19 AM
Oct 2014

In reality, that has little to no effect on the system. Activism is being active in your local party organizations to effect change at the level where it most affects your daily life, then move that change up the political food chain.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
10. Street activism is important in letting current elected officials know
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:45 AM
Oct 2014

that there's an issue that needs action. However, the street activism that is the most powerful of all is door-to-door canvassing for GOTV and voter registration. It's also personally rewarding and can be fun, too.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
20. Uh, no, I don't.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 01:39 PM
Oct 2014

Visit the link to the precinct website I maintain for my St. Paul Precinct. Go look at the elected people in the list for our districts and then look them up on Google. We have chosen, endorsed, and elected some of the most progressive legislators and local officials you'll find anywhere. I've been involved in local Democratic politics in my precinct here since 2004, and in California for 35 years before that.

Do I sometimes think that a candidate doesn't have a chance of winning in a general election? Yes, I do. Do I say so? Yes, I do. Nominating a candidate who has no chance of winning is a sucker's bet. I won't do it. We need to win elections. Every district has its own characteristics. Candidates must be suited to their district.

 

FlatStanley

(327 posts)
28. I probably shouldn't have said "you" since I couldn't know.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 03:37 PM
Oct 2014

Good on you for using the primaries appropriately. I think I became jaded when Lieberman was removed during the primary but was then supported by the party during the general election. Or at least the winner was supported by the party.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
12. This should fit here
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 10:57 AM
Oct 2014

yesterday i shared a meme on Facebook displaying something about Florida Governor Scott and his nasty crooked ways. Posted it with the heading "This is for my Florida friends".
Got a reply this morning from a Florida friend (a tea bagger). "Most of us knew this but most just did not care."

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
15. Get ready for the next round of primaries
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 11:38 AM
Oct 2014

they start the day after the election

yes, you do need to be involved that early - that time is when you get the most for your efforts. Let those good candidates know they have support - this makes them more likely to run.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
21. Exactly! And in November, vote for the Democrat.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 01:40 PM
Oct 2014

Any Democrat will be better than the Republican in any district. Always!

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
16. Part of the problem is that the people who are in dire need of progressive representation...
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 11:39 AM
Oct 2014

...tend to be the same people who are less likely to vote even in the presidential election, let alone participate in elections down-ballot.

The less they participate, the less they are represented. But the less they are represented, the less they participate.

It's a frustrating, sad cycle.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
22. Those who don't vote don't choose anything.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 01:42 PM
Oct 2014

They just submit to what others want. If you want your voice to be heard, the very least you can do is vote. That's my philosophy. There are many other ways to make your voice heard, but the one way that really makes a difference is at the polling place.

 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
17. Agreed
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 11:44 AM
Oct 2014

We can be angry at the Democrats, who aren't acting progressively enough, but that should stop short of actually helping to put a Repuke in their seat by not voting at all.

Look I agree with those who think too many members of our party's leaders side with Wall Street over Main Street. That's wrong and we need to have that fight with them undeniably.

HOWEVER, at least the majority of them are still at least SANE, a good number of the other side isn't. They reminisce with longing about slavery and talk like rape shouldn't be illegal. That's scary crap at least for me as a woman.

So yes I am pissed as hell at the Democrats who didn't prosecute the banksters, who side with polluters, and talk about making grand bargains with Satan aka the G.O.P. I'm not mad enough, however, to risk my own future by taking the huge risk that the Pukes take back the Senate. I'm am not willing to gamble that a lame duck President's veto power will be enough to protect my Civil Rights.

Look at your daughters and sons, think about women, African-Americans, Hispanics, the LGBT community,and Go Vote Democrat even if you are disillusioned right now. Don't put our future in the hands of the right wing lunatics, please!

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
23. Thanks. Vote for the Democrat and then work your ass off to
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 01:43 PM
Oct 2014

get a better Democrat for the next election. It's such a simple equation.

kansasobama

(609 posts)
19. Democrats also find ways to get angry and not vote resulting in a self-fulfilling prophecy
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 12:03 PM
Oct 2014

Democrats cannot legislate progressively because Democratic voters do not vote in mid-terms, period. It is tough on elected candidates when the supporters stay home on some pretext.

GOPers always show up to vote against Democrats.

It is really tough. When that happens, Democrats have no choice but to be center-left.

Same is going to happen now in 2014.

Democrats should easily win Iowa, Colorado and Florida if they only voted!

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
25. Each of us can help bring reluctant voters to the polling place.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 01:44 PM
Oct 2014

We really can.

GOTV 2014 and Beyond!

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
24. But why would I want to do the hard work of FINDING candidates?
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 01:43 PM
Oct 2014

Can't I just write another complaining blog post instead?

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
26. Yah, you can just do that, I suppose.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 01:45 PM
Oct 2014

As I know you realize, that's about as useful as watering weeds in your yard.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
34. How about them?
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 04:05 PM
Oct 2014

I don't know of any candidates they've nominated who could possibly win any election. None in Minnesota, for sure.

So, explain what you're trying to say, OK?

Chathamization

(1,638 posts)
36. Yes, and it encourages more progressives to run as well. One of the reason more don't run is because
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 04:40 PM
Oct 2014

they aren't sure they'll have any support. If the demand's there, they'll show up. Bernie Sanders has been saying this in his speeches - he's not interested in running just for show, so his decision is based on whether or not their's enough people who would be willing to fight for such a campaign. Whenever we have a progressive victory here, we definitely see a difference not only in the new candidates who decide to run, but also the positions the establishment folks take.

Having said that, it actually is possible to work for a progressive "Democratic" candidate here, because of our nutty campaign laws (a seat reserved for non-Democrats that gets contested largely by Democrats who have switched to independent just for this election).

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