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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums‘Duck Dynasty’ Star Phil Robertson: You Can’t Get STDs From ‘Biblically Correct Sex’
Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson painted sexually-transmitted diseases as being diametrically opposed to Christian beliefs in a recent sermon, CNS News has reported. Biblically correct sex is safe, Robertson said during a sermon in West Monroe, Louisiana last month. Its safe. Youre not going to get chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis, AIDS if you, if a man marries a woman, and neither of you have it, and you keep your sex between the two of you, youre not going to get ever sexually transmitted diseases.
Robertson went on to blame orthodox liberal opinion for the spread of debilitating diseases around the U.S. and the world and accused his audience of being like himself sexually immoral at some point in their lives. Man meets woman, marries her, keeps his sex right there, he said. The children come, the chances of them getting a sexually transmitted disease, would you say is almost zero? You can say it.
Researcher Elizabeth Boskey challenged the notion that monogamous sex can be devoid of sexually-transmitted diseases in a column for About.com this past February. Even if you had undergone regular screening, if you were infected while having sex with a partner who had not been tested in years, there is always the possibility that they were infected asymptomatically a long time before you got together and just didnt know it, Boskey wrote. Even when you are having sex with someone who is infected with an std, you wont necessarily get infected the first time you sleep together. Particularly if you intermittently practice safe sex, it could take months or even years. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/duck-dynasty-star-phil-robertson-you-cant-get-stds-from-biblically-correct-sex/
RKP5637
(67,102 posts)Louisiana1976
(3,962 posts)congregation believe him so they won't be practicing safe sex as long as they're monogamous.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)that are being ravaged by aids in Africa.
DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)If two virgins only have sex with each other it is very unlikely they will get an STD.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)The same holds true for...
"If two gay virgins only have sex with each other it is very unlikely they will get an STD."
Hence, his position is not "pretty close to fact" as one particular ruins his premise.
DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)and nothing you posted disputed it.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"if a man marries a woman, and neither of you have it, and you keep your sex between the two of you, youre not going to get ever sexually transmitted diseases.
The relevant omission "and if a man also marries a man..." illustrates his intent and implied premise to all but the half-witted.
DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)Some of you people get so worked up when the bible is mentioned. Take the bible out and look at what it means. It is a fact.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)If two people who never had sex and from wedding night until death only has sex with each other. There is zero chance of getting a sexual transmitted disease. Where are you finding this wrong?
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)You can also use condoms to prevent STD's but instead of embracing science and technology he barks at people to just "live like god said you should in the bible".
I was likening him to ignorant fundamentalists all over the world who's answer to every problem is "live like MY god said". I am aware that if two clean virgins have sex, neither of them will catch an STD.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)With his beliefs then do. I think he is getting a kick out of seeing some get upset over what he says. His Granddaughter on Monday night on Dancing with the Stars said he is out spoken. He is playing everyone.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)" if you, if a man marries a woman, and neither of you have it, and you keep your sex between the two of you, youre not going to get ever sexually transmitted diseases.
What is true:
Any two people who enter a monogamous relationship with both parties disease free and remain monogamous, they will not get a sexually transmitted disease.
What he said is not true because he specifically reserves this for a man married to a woman. In reality, the couple can be same sex or opposite sex, and they do not have to be married, simply sexually exclusive. The genders and the marriage are irrelevant.
Ex Lurker
(3,812 posts)I think so, too. He probably believes it, but he's in your face about it to get a rise out of everyone. If you look at their background, there wasn't anything remarkable about them before they hit on this schtick. They made duck calls, but other than that, there wasn't much about their lifestyle to distinguish them from any other upper middle class family in Monroe, LA. The old family pictures are all clean cut, polo shirt type scenes.
Feron
(2,063 posts)can be infected with HPV.
Monogamy dramatically lowers your risk, but doesn't eliminate it entirely.
The bigger issue is that people like the Robertsons believe that people who are sexually active outside of marriage deserve STIs/need to be punished. That sex outside of marriage should have consequences and therefore things such as anti-STI vaccines/meds, contraceptives, and abortion are bad. Not to mention being against a factual and comprehensive sex ed for kids.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)The only ones he can advise and maybe "control" is his family and even that is doubtful.
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)I bet he is a big time cheater.
Initech
(100,059 posts)Vinca
(50,255 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)I'm so tired of the pressure to be Biblically Correct all the time!
Where does it end?
Get Big Religion out of my life.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)biblically correct sex.
If both partners are virgins and completely monogamous I suppose he's right.
That being said just watching the number of "religious leaders" that have to whine and beg forgiveness because they couldn't keep it in their pants pretty much puts the kibosh on the idea that they have some kind of morally superior position here.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)he saw a young Christian couple who said they had infertility problems, that despite 3 years of marriage no kids.
so the doctor starts taking a medical history.
turns out, the couple had been practicing what they read in the Bible, about "lie with your wife"
and had been lying side by side in bed.
With no sex.
May be an old joke, maybe not. but I have heard equally weird things from my clients over the years.
3catwoman3
(23,968 posts)How naïve and sheltered would one have to be not to know about intercourse?
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)is how truly sexually repressed and unaware most people were in the 50's.
I cringe at remembering those times.
JHB
(37,158 posts)At least not for men.
safeinOhio
(32,658 posts)if a crab jumped off the toilet seat and bit him on the ass.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)by sharing contaminated needles, or by tainted blood products.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)With their father...does he mean like that biblical sex?
By the way Phil......women were property in biblical times.
This is the same guy that said you should choose a woman when she is no older than 16 so you can still train them .otherwise she is just a gold digger apparently
Initech
(100,059 posts)spanone
(135,815 posts)theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Or was it the chapter about Lot having sex with his daughters? I've lost track.
Initech
(100,059 posts)No wonder Solomon was a king!
theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)Solomon
(12,310 posts)damnedifIknow
(3,183 posts)Grab a razor and shut up.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)It is entirely true that if both of you are virgins when you marry, and never have sex with anyone else, you are very unlikely (not certain, but very, very unlikely) to get STDs.
The problem is *not* the statement itself, it's the implicit conclusions he wants us to draw - I suspect things like
"and therefore you should refrain from having sex before marriage".
"and therefore it is unethical to have sex outside marriage"
"and therefore we should stop funding sex education and fund abstinence education instead".
The response should not be to highlight or exaggerate the (tiny) risk of getting STDs if you live as he suggests, but to say "yes, that statement as far as it goes, is true, but the conclusions he is trying to lead to from it are not, for these reasons" (e.g. "Not marrying someone you love because they're not a virgin is dumb"; "Abstinence education does not work"; "Everything you say holds just as true if you replace "Married" with "in a committed, monogamous relationship with" or "woman" with "man" throughout", etc).
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Bible God did advocate raping virgins.
Johonny
(20,828 posts)Why does this country celebrate the ignorant asshole so much. Ryan White in his time on Earth did a thousand times more to try and give good information to other humans beings while he is now totally forgotten while we constantly hear from this fact less self-inflicted moron. Can we hear no more from any of the millionaire "Duck Sex Whistle" moralists, please.
Paladin
(28,246 posts)Initech
(100,059 posts)"Give me five bees for a quarter, you'd say. And then I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. So I hopped a ferry to Shelbyville, which in those days was called Morganville. Did I mention I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time?"
At least Grampa Simpson's rants are better than Phil Robertson's.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Does it?
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)but there are still other ways. For example, there have been cases of babies getting herpes during circumcision when the Rabbi puts his mouth on the open penis wound. Some people get STDs by sharing a needle.
nitpicker
(7,153 posts)Not THAT way...
And well-meaning relatives can do a number on you too.
madokie
(51,076 posts)at best he's a jack ass and at worst he is a stupid ass person.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)hatrack
(59,583 posts)And America should give a shit . . . why?
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)He might find his sex activity isn't that biblically correct after all.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)this guy is there. Making some lame comment. He's not quite as bad I don't think he has ever held a protest at a military funeral, but he's pretty obnoxious, like a Phelps lite.
Mike Nelson
(9,951 posts)...we hear about today. Probably, he's never read the Bible...