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http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/10/08/frisco-patient-exhibiting-ebola-symptoms/Sheriffs deputy with possible Ebola and had no direct contact with the victim.
Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Autumn
(44,962 posts)Something's wrong here.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)And there is nothing mysterious about this. He might turn out to be the ONLY secondary case and no epidemiologist would think the circumstances reflected anything other than chance.
Don't be a fearmongering conspiracy theorist, k?
Autumn
(44,962 posts)Don't accuse people of things, k? My problem is the "possible transmission Ebola" no contact, no ebloa
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)LisaL
(44,967 posts)CDC thinks contact with an infected apartment is perfectly harmless, don't you know?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)It's either dangerous, or it's not. It WAS in fact dangerous and those people including the judge and cops were all in danger.
My microbiology degree and my veterinary degree have given me a very healthy respect for viral pathogens, especially those with high mortality.
B2G
(9,766 posts)And protested that move.
Autumn
(44,962 posts)woolldog
(8,791 posts)source?
LisaL
(44,967 posts)"Five Dallas County sheriffs deputies who were ordered Wednesday to go inside the Dallas apartment where an Ebola patient stayed are now worried about their health."
http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/dallas-sheriffs-deputies-upset-about-being-ordered-inside-ebola-patients-apartment-without-protective-gear.html/
Why'd they follow that order??
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)The CDC was in Dallas immediately, and all the fuck ups happened on their watch. Since the CDC didn't care that the family was first quarantined in an Ebola infested environment or that anyone was there to prevent the family trying to leave (which they did and led to the judge's order to force the quarantine, the two unprotected power-washing vomit off the pavement in front of the apartment complex that was left there for days before anyone thought to do it, the hospital not testing Duncan for Ebola until he was hospitalized for two days, etc.
With them being on scene and not caring about any of that I surely doubt they gave any warning about unprotected police going into the Ebola infested apartment either, so why would they not have followed orders or at least complained why they shouldn't? And if they did complain but the CDC continued to drop the ball and weren't backing them up, then of course they'd have to follow those orders regardless of what they thought personally.
Police have to follow orders that may take their lives every day.
Autumn
(44,962 posts)I found that funny (in a sad kind of way) but from what I have read it's a little harder than being in the same room as Mr. Duncan was in to catch it. I don't think he was "hanging out" . No reasonable person would go and "hang out" in that apartment.
LisaL
(44,967 posts)This guy went into the apartment (prior to it being clean) with no protection whatsoever. Not even gloves.
pnwmom
(108,951 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)They responded with minimal symptoms. He could ahve a 24 hour bug for all we know right now.
They aren't taking any chances with the people who had any form of contact.
arthritisR_US
(7,282 posts)simply exercising due diligence in light of what transpired with Mr Duncan.
herding cats
(19,558 posts)In this case I'm not willing to bet money it's going to be Ebola.
arthritisR_US
(7,282 posts)herding cats
(19,558 posts)Where frearmongering is now what passes for reporting. The CDC says the chances of this man having Ebola are minimal, but that doesn't get viewers or sell papers.
In all likelihood the man got a touch of a bug and freaked the heck out. I'm glad the medical workers are being so cautious, but the media needs to get a hold of themselves. They really should be embarrassed of their reaction in this instance.
arthritisR_US
(7,282 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Because despite going into the apartment with no protective gear, he was NOT one of the people the CDC was monitoring.
So if he does come down with ebola, you can add that to the list of their "We are completely prepared for this! Honest!" fuckups.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)We can't have THAT!
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)BTW, I'm not accusing anyone of lying; this was a tough situation to deal with, but if it turns out that he does have Ebola, he would HAVE to had some contact with the victim's contaminants; he was in that victim's apartment for a full half hour; that may not seem like much, but once you do get in contact with a contaminant, even for a brief second, you are in jeopardy.
LisaL
(44,967 posts)But he had contact with Duncan's apartment and I believe Duncan's relatives.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)What I was trying to say is, even if Duncan himself was gone, there may still have been contaminants in the apartment, somewhere. I apologize if I wasn't clear, however.
LisaL
(44,967 posts)We know Duncan was throwing up all over the place the day he went into the hospital in the ambulance.
Maybe this guy stepped into the puke?
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)He just didn't feel well and everyone is being cautious.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)They're not expecting him to come back positive either. It's precaution.
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)or food poisoning. Or many, many other things that present with the same early symptoms.
Maybe he has enterovirus, which has killed way more people in this country than Ebola.
LisaL
(44,967 posts)Considering he was send into contaminated apartment with no protection.
YarnAddict
(1,850 posts)with Duncan's dirty laundry haven't come down with it yet.
Not saying it's impossible; it's just a little early to make any judgments about the cause of the deputy's illness.
LisaL
(44,967 posts)There is a lot we don't know.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)this illness? It's odd that people protest so adamantly against the idea that there might be cause for concern. Is it just because of republican fear mongering? Are we to cast off good sense just because repukes are going overboard?
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)And even the republicans have disowned him.
Now South Carolinas Republican establishment wants nothing to do with Kincannon.
According to Kincannons LinkedIn profile, he was also general counsel and parliamentarian of the state party. But the operative said that anyone in the party with a law degree could be called general counsel, and that parliamentarian was an unpaid, volunteer position with few responsibilities.
Will Folks, a prominent South Carolina political blogger known for stirring up controversy himself, said Kincannon thrives on this kind of attention.
Todd is entertainment, Folks said, and whether you agree with the entertainment or not, a lot of people are watchingmuch to the chagrin of the party establishment.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/28/south-carolina-republicans-distance-themselves-from-todd-kincannon.html
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)We've known that. They can also be infected by coming into contact with their bodily fluids whether they know that they're there or not. If the sheriff turns out to be infected than we'll know he got it from being unprotected while in the apartment where Mr. Duncan was ill and picked it up somehow.
The cameraman that tested positive wasn't in direct contact with an Ebola patient either but believes he became infected when being splashed when a vehicle he was to ride in was being washed because it recently had a dead body in it that died of Ebola.
Dr. Brantly, one of the aid workers helping in an outbreak area still doesn't know how he was infected, and whenever he was in any contact with an infected person he was completely suited up.
The nurse/nurses' aid in Spain was suited up when she was caring for the Spanish priest that ended up dying despite his being given ZMapp, and she believes that she got it in the process of removing the protective suit. That's why people in contact with Ebola patients need to be sprayed with chlorine before removing their protective suits as Doctors Without Borders has been doing in Africa. These kind of precautions that are the same in bio-labs where Ebola and other horrible diseases are dealt with all the time aren't killing lab workers. Obviously, it's better to be safe than sorry, so what seems like extraordinary measures of protection aren't extreme but necessary.