Sheriff on CNN says two other sheriffs are ill...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

That brings it up to three...

Developing...

[Aerows]

1. Oh shit

Let's hope it was a potluck lunch gone wrong and they all ate Mr. Porter's famous potato salad.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. An expert is saying the symptoms might be psychosomatic.

I pray and hope so.

[Baitball Blogger]

8. Not going to blame them.

That would probably be my reaction.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. We don't know.

I would be concerned too...

[kestrel91316]

64. This would be perfectly understandable. Gotta be one bunch of horribly

scared, stressed people.

[JimDandy]

14. Sooo unlikely that someone with even less contact

with Duncan than his own family would get Ebola, but not them. Like you, I'll suspect a food borne illness before anything else unless a confirmed diagnosis of Ebola is released.

[cwydro]

73. I shouldn't laugh.

But that was funny.

Call it gallows humor. Sigh.

[TheDebbieDee]

3. What are you talking about?

[Cali_Democrat]

7. Two more people might have Ebola. nt

[uppityperson]

20. a couple more people think they have a fever, or have digestive tract upset.

[ohnoyoudidnt]

65. A thermomoter can easily tell if their subjective feeling of a fever is real or not.

If three officers who have visited the house do have a fever, that should be of some concern, just like the nurse in Spain who presumably took proper precautions. I am not ready to be really worried yet, but this is definitely worth following. I know how the media loves to sensationalize for ratings, but sometimes serious stuff does happen.

[uppityperson]

70. I just looked at CNN online and they say the deputy has no fever, the one they are watching.

he has some of the other "I am sick" symptoms, but no fever.

[ohnoyoudidnt]

71. Well, that is good.

Hopefully, these cases are just psychosomatic and we don't have a bigger problem

[tblue37]

76. It is also the beginning of flu season, so there will probably be some

who come down with the flu after being potentially exposed, so that until definitive tests clear them, they will have to be isolated and observed.

[sadoldgirl]

4. But what about the family that stayed with the patient?

Still, one should never forget that viruses do mutate at a good rate. So it may have done so to become airborn. I hope not.

This starts to look bad.

[MohRokTah]

16. Ebola and other viruses of that family are incredibly unlikely to mutate and become airborne.

The structure of such viruses simply do not support it.

Scientists never rule it out completely, but it is so unlikely as to be discounted as anything resembling a near term possibility.

[greytdemocrat]

38. Then I'd be doubly worried...nt

[MohRokTah]

62. If you're going to worry, then worry about the single most likely mutation that harms humans.

That would be the virus mutating in such a way that virus is shed by an asymptomatic infected individual.

That's the nightmare scenario with Ebola.

What that means is the virus is able to spread before somebody infected with the virus demonstrates symptoms.

[scarystuffyo]

5. This is going to get out of control in a very short time

If they really have contacted it.

There is no way to stop this spread

[arcane1]

13. There's NO way?

[scarystuffyo]

15. No way

When you have 3 more people walking around infected it's going to spread

This is if the account is accurate

[MohRokTah]

17. THE SKIES ARE FALLING!!!!!!!

Dude, they aren't contagious until they are symptomatic and these three are just beginning to show what MIGHT be Ebola symptoms.

Don't panic.

[scarystuffyo]

19. If they felt bad they were symptomatic from it

But at what point did they decide to say something...the first sore throat and sniffle ?

Did one wipe his nose while pumping gas , opening a door to a convenience store , hug and kiss his wife his kids

This virus mutates at every stage and it is still debatable by many doctors when and how
it becomes contagious .

[MohRokTah]

21. THE SKIES ARE FALLING!!!!!

They haven't even determined they have Ebola and you are going off the deep end.

[uppityperson]

22. "This virus mutates at every stage"? No. It doesn't.

[MohRokTah]

23. +10,000,000 eom

[scarystuffyo]

28. .

The virus amassed 50 mutations during its first month, the researchers found. They say there is no sign that any of these mutations have contributed to the unprecedented size of the outbreak by changing the characteristics of the Ebola virus — for instance, its ability to spread from person to person or to kill infected patients


http://www.nature.com/news/ebola-virus-mutating-rapidly-as-it-spreads-1.15777

[uppityperson]

35. "at every stage". I missed that part in there.

[Autumn]

42. Thanks, that's an interesting link. I don't see where it mutates at every stage

I wonder if more than 395 mutations between ten years ago and June when this out break started would be a lot of mutations.

[uppityperson]

31. I have a sniffly nose and headache. Do I have ebola too? It is very possible to have symptoms

like that without having ebola.


http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/

Signs and Symptoms
Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F)
Severe headache
Muscle pain
Weakness
Diarrhea
Vomiting
Abdominal (stomach) pain
Unexplained hemorrhage (bleeding or bruising)

Let's think now. What other problems might cause a fever? Headache? Muscle pains? Weakness? Diarrhea? Vomitting? Stomach pain? Bruising?

Is it possible to have any or all of those symptoms and not have ebola?

[scarystuffyo]

36. It's possible but 3 people that had contact with infected material all develop those at the same ?

They have the ebola

[uppityperson]

39. It couldn't be something like they ate bad food together, or have a cold, or even simply are

psychosomatic? That last one means your body doesn't have the disease but your mind is giving you the symptoms, or making you think you have the disease. Have you ever been around a kid with head lice, and suddenly your own head starts itching? Or someone yawns and you have to yawn also (though there are other factors involved there).

There are lots of reasons 3 people who work and hang out together might get sick at the same time beyond ebola.

Where did you get the information that they all had "contact with infected material"? I can find nothing online on anyone but the one being monitored due to an abundance of caution.

[scarystuffyo]

43. Aren't these the guys who went into the apartment ?

[uppityperson]

44. That is why I am asking for a link as I can find nothing beyond the 1 they are watching is but the

I can find nothing about the others.

[scarystuffyo]

47. This is all I found , just talks about the first one

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/oct/08/another-person-texas-showing-signs-ebola/

[uppityperson]

53. So far none of the family that lived for days in the infectious apartment have gotten sick. While it

is possible for the deputy to have been exposed and sickened, I would not panic until they get a definite diagnosis because there are many many reasons, illnesses, fear, that can give you those symptoms.

It is good they are monitoring the deputy and family and other people, but not time to panic yet.

[etherealtruth]

67. Exactly

All people with the potential of contact and presenting with symptoms should be taken seriously .... until ebola can be ruled out (unlike when Mr. Duncan first presented) .... that doesn't mean "panic" .... it doesn't mean they likely have the disease, but at this point proceeding with an abundance of caution is wise.

by the way ... had i had contact with Mr. Duncan .... i might be able to work myself up (and develop nausea, diarrhea .... just from worry and stress)

[Autumn]

46. It could be stress or they could be exhibiting false symptoms because of fear.

[uppityperson]

49. Exactly. When I was studying pathophysiology, I could fit the symptoms of so many diseases

that we were studying and memorizing. Stress makes it worse, and being around someone who you think may be sick makes it even worse.

[Autumn]

52. A poster in this thread may have figured it out

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5640223

[uppityperson]

56. That was my thought also, they over did the ribs and donuts over the weekend.

I know, bad cliches for Texas and cops.

[Autumn]

57. That was as funny as the poster wondering if he had been licking door knobs.

I can't believe I didn't save that thread just for that post.

[scarystuffyo]

51. I hope you're right but it doesn't sound good

I could see maybe 1 of them but all 3
Especially since we know for sure one did go into the apartment .

If the other two didn't and they had close contact since , it would make sense he infected them.

If the first deputy does have it.

[Autumn]

55. The thing is, they work together. I would think the family living in that apartment

would have come down with it first.

[scarystuffyo]

61. Sometimes just like a lot of things , bad luck or good luck

Trained doctors wearing suits get it and can't tell you how they got it.

Who knows why the family didn't contact it but the deputy might have

[kestrel91316]

66. The family might just happen to be slightly different genetically

and so have a slightly lower risk. Who knows?

[uppityperson]

60. If deputy 1 has ebola, he just became contagious so #2 & 3 would not be showing symptoms for a while

IF deputy 1 is now showing symptoms, there is no way he could have infected #2 or #3 yet.

If someone comes to your workplace with a cold and sneezes on you, do you immediately start having a runny nose and sneezing? Nope because it take a while for the virus to build up, to make your body develop the symptoms.

Like that instance, there is not enough time for someone just starting showing symptoms to have spread the infection to others to have them show symptoms.

[scarystuffyo]

63. Hope you're right but I got a bad feeling on this

We are going to start hearing about a lot more cases in the next few weeks or months

This is spreading to Europe now , I don't think that's ever happened before

[uppityperson]

68. Be prepared for lots of news coverage that include the word "possible"

They will be breathlessly reporting on Suspected or Possible cases, trying to get you to continue to watch, stay tuned for update at 10!

The news media exists primarily to sell ad time. They will report on any little thing they can try and generate interest for and ebola is right now a huge thing for the media.

"Possible" means little beyond they are checking someone out. Watch for the release of results from the tests. If they say the test showed ebola, then the person has it. Until then, they are going to be cautious, check out people who show symptoms that could be from many things.

Yes, due to increased ability to travel, this outbreak in W Africa has spread further than before, and yes, other countries will get cases. And of course it is always possible for something really bad to happen. But it hasn't yet.

I am concerned that people will be catching the flu and worrying it is ebola. They will overwhelm emergency rooms and clinics with fear and wanting to be tested. One way to prevent that is to follow this advice. Wash your hands after being out and about, after touching money or pretty much anything, don't touch your eyes or nose, get a flu shot sometime soon, drink enough liquids, get enough sleep.

[MohRokTah]

74. I'm glad you aren;t a physician. eom

[arcane1]

18. I don't think they will do much walking around if it's determined that they are infected.

[cwydro]

75. Ah no.

There's a reality check in the lobby.

Just past the coat check.

[morningfog]

32. What a stupid post.

[VanillaRhapsody]

54. Nigeria did! And they had more cases than this....

there seems to be a bit too much "the sky is falling" on DU these days...

[SidDithers]

72. Welcome to DU...

Sid

[chrisa]

77. Ebola is terrible at spreading. If even a hundred people got it, that would be unheard of.

[uppityperson]

6. Did they all get together for a bbq over the weekend and eat some bad food?

[TwilightGardener]

9. Could be flu. When does flu season start?

[scarystuffyo]

10. All 3 of them

[MohRokTah]

11. They worked together. eom

[YarnAddict]

24. Do you have a link?

I just googled, and came up with nothing.

[tammywammy]

26. I'm listening to local AM news radio and they haven't said that either.

[LisaL]

34. It was on CNN (on TV)

[LibDemAlways]

25. The cable news outlets are turning this into

all ebola all the time. Have to spread some fear, incite some hysteria, and keep people tuning in to keep the ratings up and advertisers happy.

[MineralMan]

27. Could have been that menudo

hangover cure, too.

[ecstatic]

29. Where does that leave Judge Jenkins?

He went above and beyond to show his fellow Texans that you could only get ebola through direct contact. He had way more contact with the home and family than the sheriffs did.

[LisaL]

33. Have we seen him lately?

[tammywammy]

40. I heard him on the radio yesterday.

He went to the home to give the news of the death today as well.

[Yo_Mama]

58. Days after poor Duncan was hospitalized.

None of the family were showing signs of illness - thus any virus Duncan had shed should have broken up, and the family would not be shedding any. I can't see how he would be at risk. The deputy who was there earlier would have more risk, although very low risk. It's remotely possible that the deputy could have run into a few virus particles, which is why he's being tested.

[JaneyVee]

30. The local donut shop dishing out ecoli?

[Autumn]

50. Ohhhhh

[pa28]

59. Since the OP did not care to specify that must be it.

Poor cops.

[herding cats]

37. Are they in the hospital also being monitored and tested for Ebola?

Because logic says if there was even the most remote of chance it was Ebola they have they would be in containment. If they're not, then shame on that sheriff for scaring the public just to get his 15 minutes of fame. I'd say shame on CNN for giving him a platform, but they exist to fearmonger.

[LisaL]

41. At least one of the three deputies is.

Don't know about the other two.

[herding cats]

45. The other two mentioned in this OP.

Not that one. Do you know if they are?

[Yo_Mama]

48. But no proof it's Ebola.

Two more ill makes it more likely to be another illness. Sure,you've got to test them and rule it out.

[With whom]

69. A hypochondriac would persistently

A hypochondriac would persistently come to my office several times a day. He was not a thinker, could not make decisions about simple things such as whether to place a courtesy note on someones door or on their mailbox, etc. After many years of being patient with his wasting my time, a solution had to be made.

I placed a particle mask in the drawer. As Tom entered I put it on, explaining that I thought I had been exposed to TB. This news makes me wonder if Tom became a deputy in Texas???