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baldguy

(36,649 posts)
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:37 PM Oct 2014

Hillary Clinton and the Progressive Pursuit of Perfection

The season of progressive discontent over Hillary's coming 2016 candidacy is upon us.

...

The goal of anti-Hillary progressives is to find a challenger to Clinton. Their target is Senator Elizabeth Warren, with Ready for Warren created as the vehicle to convince Warren to run. It's not going to happen, with Warren sending a powerful message in August.

"This letter serves as a formal disavowal of the organization and its activity," Warren's attorney, Marc E. Elias wrote to the Federal Election Commission. "The senator has not, and does not, explicitly or implicitly, authorize, endorse, or otherwise approve of the organization's activities." (Boston Globe)


The message was ignored and so was Senator Warren's own words.

"I'm going to give you the same answer I have given you many times. There is no wiggle room. I am not running for president. No means no."


Warren supporters won't take "no means no" for an answer, which seems a little creepy to me. That progressive activists are ignoring a woman's own words about her own political future, insisting they know best, is very odd, to be kind about it.

...

The complaint heard most often is Hillary's too "hawkish." Progressives evidently haven't looked at Warren's interview with Yahoo's Katie Couric. Warren has made statements supporting Israel's strong military actions against the Palestinians, and that she also believes the U.S. goal is to "close ISIS down. To end ISIS. To eliminate ISIS." Both statements could have easily come from Hillary Clinton.

As for Wall Street coziness, name one viable nominee for president who didn't have to engage big business. I'll save you the time: there isn't one, including Barack Obama. All of a sudden Hillary Clinton's being held to a different standard.

more:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/hillary-clinton-and-the-p_1_b_5965150.html
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Hillary Clinton and the Progressive Pursuit of Perfection (Original Post) baldguy Oct 2014 OP
Is the Clinton/Obama TPP good fo America? MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #1
Assures America's stranglehold on the rest of the world. joshcryer Oct 2014 #5
are you serious? DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #62
Of course they would disagree. joshcryer Oct 2014 #121
hahahahahaha DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #128
No. joshcryer Oct 2014 #137
define the west DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #138
Why don't you tell us all about it? You INSINUATE plenty, but until you've seen the agreements MADem Oct 2014 #40
I actually think the people who claim to want Warren as Prez... Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #2
+1000 baldguy Oct 2014 #3
Republicans of course. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #33
sow discord DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #129
Now you're just projecting. baldguy Oct 2014 #131
The TPP is hateful to the base DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #135
Paid disruptors? MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #12
I guess they are stalkerish according to the #1 Hillary fan davidpdx Oct 2014 #25
....or they want her to run and LOSE. MADem Oct 2014 #14
i actually like WArren more than Clinton but anyone who has actually supported JI7 Oct 2014 #32
I think she's great and I like her as my Senator. That's the ironic bit! MADem Oct 2014 #34
i agree, even if Clinton wasn't going to run i don't think Warren would get in the race JI7 Oct 2014 #37
There's so much truth in your post I just want to cover it in praise! MADem Oct 2014 #41
Me either!!!! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #59
I can't speak for all of those who like Warren, but I believe they see her and those senators allied davidpdx Oct 2014 #26
i agree, that's why she doesn't have much support on the ground as there was for Obama early on JI7 Oct 2014 #30
++++1000 THIS ^^^^ VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #60
no DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #64
that is fucking baloney! How can you say that and still call yourself a Democrat? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #68
lol. there are sure are. there are a number of coservadems pretending to be liberals. cali Oct 2014 #85
Actually there are ALOT more Independents....trying to tell Democrats what to do! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #88
Wrong again. winter is coming Oct 2014 #87
She damn near the same as Hillary! The WRONG would be YOU! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #89
I've told you before why this chart is bullshit. winter is coming Oct 2014 #91
and I have told YOU to prove it with a better graph....Until YOU do ....... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #93
I've explained to you, in detail, why that chart is crap. winter is coming Oct 2014 #96
I don't care what YOU think.....back up your bullshit! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #98
As far as I'm concerned.... Stellar Oct 2014 #97
If she won the Primary so would I .....but she isn't running. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #99
Fucking nailed it... SidDithers Oct 2014 #103
EXACTLY! they're paid disrupters - perhaps even working for ISIS Douglas Carpenter Oct 2014 #106
That's the only possible explanation AgingAmerican Oct 2014 #111
Warren would never make up a SniperGate story like Hillary did. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #4
You apparently didn't follow her Senate race. MADem Oct 2014 #15
I can't compare 'Minnie Haha' with Snipergate. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #16
Maybe you can't, but the RNC and all their minions can--and do. Often. Constantly. It is a MADem Oct 2014 #17
So, the republicans do all sorts of stupid things. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #18
If you aren't going to bother to even read what I write, I'm not going to bother engaging you. MADem Oct 2014 #19
Good. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #20
All Day All Night Criticism NO! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #65
and Hillary declared running for what exactly? Is it possible to 'elect' someone LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #77
Uh are you in denial that she holds the Pole Position? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #81
Yes, she hold the Poles and moves them whenever she sees fit. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #82
you don't even know what the fuck "pole position" means obviously... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #83
''you don't even know what the fuck "pole position" means obviously...'' LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #117
Repeating the Republican lies. MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #29
Way to ignore the context of the conversation. MADem Oct 2014 #36
RW talking points all to defend Hillary Clinton's obvious and proven lie LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #78
"She has none." is an unproven claim. The truth is that her heritage wasn't documented. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #31
It's not a case of "will look foolish"--they've already done it and they continue to do it. MADem Oct 2014 #39
I have 2 grandparents that were known to be half Cherokee.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #66
This has been unpacked, aired, resolved, repacked and put away by the left. MADem Oct 2014 #125
MADem, do you know what that was all about? Number23 Oct 2014 #120
She believed what her parents told her, I'm sure. I don't think she had a deceitful bone in her MADem Oct 2014 #124
Awesome post, as usual Number23 Oct 2014 #126
Anytime! MADem Oct 2014 #127
I'm not a Warren acolyte, but what you are saying about her lack of Indian heritage is unfair. pnwmom Oct 2014 #134
Hillary is too hawkish. See IWR vote and support for Bush's wars. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2014 #6
I don't need perfection. I'd settle for adequacy Scootaloo Oct 2014 #7
You may get your wish with sadoldgirl Oct 2014 #8
It's not about perfection PAProgressive28 Oct 2014 #9
BULLHOCKEY! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #63
Are you claiming that red dot represents Hillary Clinton's political position? Marr Oct 2014 #73
Yes I very much am.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #90
Those things are absurdly inaccurate. Marr Oct 2014 #100
then come up with your own graphs and supporting evidence to prove it! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #102
Ok-- here you go. Marr Oct 2014 #107
+! adirondacker Oct 2014 #119
The Progressive Pursuit of Perfection... SomethingFishy Oct 2014 #10
+1 davidpdx Oct 2014 #27
Hillary - or any other mainstream Dem - is against these things? baldguy Oct 2014 #46
then you must no read the news DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #130
Children want to play with ponies in the sunshine, and eat candy everyday. baldguy Oct 2014 #132
adults DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #136
+ another Scuba Oct 2014 #49
so Hillary Clinton opposes those things? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #67
Oh look, it's the "perfection" myth again. Instant fail. n/t winter is coming Oct 2014 #11
It is interesting to see the rollout of the "if you are not for Hillary you are a paid RW operative" djean111 Oct 2014 #13
Yeah, I don't think it's going to fly far. Marr Oct 2014 #74
I am sorry....that is not a myth.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #92
I'm a Democrat. Another fail for you. n/t winter is coming Oct 2014 #94
are YOU committed to vote for whomever wins the Democratic Primary election... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #95
She is too hawkish. If she gets in I doubt we go 4 years without new boots on the ground somewhere. craigmatic Oct 2014 #21
How many Presidents got to say that? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #69
The problem Aerows Oct 2014 #22
Seems to me that wanting/requiring universal Democratic support for Hillary is - a unicorn. djean111 Oct 2014 #23
The second paragraph hit the nail on the head davidpdx Oct 2014 #28
The thing is, there has always been attacks on the Dem nom from supposed "progressives" baldguy Oct 2014 #47
And who is saying that BESIDES her opponents? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #61
The "perfection" meme is dead and cold. Union Scribe Oct 2014 #24
Perfection? Shit, I'd settle for someone that AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #35
. nationalize the fed Oct 2014 #38
How dare two former SECSTATES be collegial! Oh, the Huge Manatee!!!! MADem Oct 2014 #42
Non negotiable for me as well. JEB Oct 2014 #123
She's a corporatist, if that's where you are content arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #43
Oh no she isn't VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #56
So, where is she on TPP? NAFTA was such a winner arthritisR_US Oct 2014 #118
K&R in the Strongest Possible Terms! Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #44
What a ridiculous article. unrec. 2banon Oct 2014 #45
"Perfection" now being defined as.. Fumesucker Oct 2014 #48
So those are the ONLY issues we need to be concerned with? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #55
Is Hillary the ONLY politician who agrees with me on the issues you named? Fumesucker Oct 2014 #71
Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL. Long way between there and "perfection". Scuba Oct 2014 #50
Oh, haven't you heard? Being against all those are all ponies and unicorns now. n/t djean111 Oct 2014 #51
Oh your pet peeves again....as if they are the ONLY issues to be concerned with... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #54
Not the only issues, but key, and good indicators. Scuba Oct 2014 #57
Obviously from my previous post....that is BULLSHIT! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #58
She has a strong voting record on women's rights. Rhetoric on other progressive issues.... Scuba Oct 2014 #70
I'm sorry...YOU don't get to weigh the issues for the Party now do you? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #84
Nope, only for me, just as you only get to weigh them for you. Scuba Oct 2014 #114
right and your scale needs recalibrating if YOU think Hillary Clinton is equal to Richard Nixon! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #116
Pretty creepy how you capitalize "Party" Union Scribe Oct 2014 #122
"Pet peeves". Wow. Marr Oct 2014 #76
YOU keep telling yourself that there is ONLY one issue to consider..... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #86
Sorry, but I think you gave away your credibility when you described war, economic injustice, Marr Oct 2014 #109
I described HIS pet issues....I didn't define those....and I will thank you NOT to put your words VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #110
Uh-huh. /nt Marr Oct 2014 #112
YES! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #113
Sure is a long way - a long journey through hell! polichick Oct 2014 #115
FIRST they have to stop lying about Hillary Clinton... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #52
Sigh. merrily Oct 2014 #53
Stop it til after the elections! She sucks on costly trade & war & income disparity. grahamhgreen Oct 2014 #72
I'm not in pursuit of perfection. Iggo Oct 2014 #75
The Waltons and other 1%'ers support Hillary because she'll help them keep closeupready Oct 2014 #79
Is this the vote for the Democrat we tell you to thread or you aren't a good Democrat? mmonk Oct 2014 #80
Why yes, it is! And that really long, meant to derail the conversation by making it tedious to djean111 Oct 2014 #105
DU rec... SidDithers Oct 2014 #101
It's more than Hillary being hawkish. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #104
Ah, this old chestnut. I'd expect nothing less from the sideboob gazette. hughee99 Oct 2014 #108
DNC won't stop until it flushes liberals out of politics - it just gets worse whereisjustice Oct 2014 #133
Damn....I think we do get to vote, don't we? CANDO Oct 2014 #139
That's exactly what the anti-Democratic "progressives" want - No primaries, no votes counted. baldguy Oct 2014 #142
we all know that strawmen are all the third wayers have stupidicus Oct 2014 #140
Sanders and Warren fadedrose Oct 2014 #141
yep stupidicus Oct 2014 #143

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
5. Assures America's stranglehold on the rest of the world.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:48 PM
Oct 2014

As we transition to renewable energy and automated production technology.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
62. are you serious?
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 09:00 AM
Oct 2014

The Russians and Chionese will disagree with you. China gets it's oil from Iran (y know, the one Hillary threatened to OBLITERATE) and Russia has it's own oil, enough that it can keep Europe on a short leash. Nice try, but HIllary will not restore the 90's, not should we want her to.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
121. Of course they would disagree.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:47 PM
Oct 2014

They are pissed off TPP doesn't include them.

The western world is transitioning away from oil. It's only a matter of time before oil no longer has the power that it once held. This is a frightening prospect to Russia.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
128. hahahahahaha
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 09:12 AM
Oct 2014

Let me guess, you think the TPP is a good idea, despite the fact that it means corporations can run ramshod right over our laws, especially the ones that protect small buisnesses and local economies. Trust me, the Rusiians and Chinese will be very glad to see a TPP where they are not bound by it, and where they can run circles aorund the global corporations.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
137. No.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 12:11 AM
Oct 2014

I simply understand why TPP exists. I have doubts it'll pass under this administration or even if it will pass under the next. It's economic leverage and many countries aren't going to want to be bound by its restrictions despite the lucrative trade agreements.

China and Russia will be bit players soon because they're following the US industrial roadmap, while ignoring how dependent they are on the US and the west to buy their resources.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
138. define the west
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 10:46 AM
Oct 2014

Canada may be the west, but it will happily sell her resources to the Chinese, thanks to that pipeline Hillary supports. Russia can jerk Europe around like a poodle on a leash.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
40. Why don't you tell us all about it? You INSINUATE plenty, but until you've seen the agreements
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 01:36 AM
Oct 2014

(which none of us have seen, yet, save a leak of a working document that wasn't finalized) you know nothing.

And if they're no good, and the agreement is not in our best interests, all Congress (not Clinton, and not Obama) has to do is act like Nancy R, and Just Say No.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
2. I actually think the people who claim to want Warren as Prez...
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:41 PM
Oct 2014

...don't even want her to run. Hell, they probably don't even like her. They think of her as a useful tool to attack Obama, Hillary and other prominent Dems.

Their goal is to sow discord.

Warren has praised Hillary and Obama time and time again.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
129. sow discord
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 09:14 AM
Oct 2014

If having a nominee that actively hates her base is not sowing discord, what the hell is?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
25. I guess they are stalkerish according to the #1 Hillary fan
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 12:38 AM
Oct 2014

She sure makes you guys out to sound like you are Republicans, doesn't she? Makes you just want to curl up with Tough Choices and hurl.

I myself having made up my mind for sure, so I guess I'm only half-stalkerish.

Let the primary rhetoric begin!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. ....or they want her to run and LOSE.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 09:05 PM
Oct 2014

It's almost cartoonish the way they try to use her as a club to attack POTUS and others, and it IS obvious what they're doing.

Remember all that bullshit ignoring and disavowing of Warren's signature on that "Run Hill Run" letter?

I can't wait until general election season.

JI7

(89,246 posts)
32. i actually like WArren more than Clinton but anyone who has actually supported
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 12:54 AM
Oct 2014

a candidate knows what it takes. people like to compare to Obama nd others. but Obama already had many support groups around the country. warren isn't stupid and she knows she would have had to start as early as possible to take on the clinton machine.

there is no ground support for Warren. as you say those who claim to support her are cartoonish and mostly come off as just performance art .

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. I think she's great and I like her as my Senator. That's the ironic bit!
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 01:03 AM
Oct 2014

I contributed to her campaign and I brought around a hundred voters to the polls to vote for her. I think she's right where she can do the most good -- chairing banking, until a Dem president, maybe someone like that "awful" Clinton, can nominate her as Fed Chair.

I really don't think she ever wanted to take on the "Clinton machine." If she did, she wouldn't have signed that letter, she wouldn't have said NO, no, NO! Nay! and Hell NO, six ways to Sunday when asked about running. I think she likes using the "buzz" as a launch pad for her economic ideas, but just because someone is good at banking doesn't mean they're good at--or even inclined towards getting good at-- other things. She doesn't have the deep resume (something Obama still takes heat for, despite getting a foreign policy whiz as his VP and some extraordinarily knowledgeable SECSTATES) and she doesn't have a charismatic spouse like Obama has.

Performance art--that's what it is, exactly. The only question is ... WHY?

JI7

(89,246 posts)
37. i agree, even if Clinton wasn't going to run i don't think Warren would get in the race
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 01:13 AM
Oct 2014

one difference between Warren and Obama is that Obama was into politics since his younger days when he was a student. yes he may not have been in the Senate for long, but he was an activist for decades and in the state senate. politics was not new to him.

in Warren's case it seemed like she voted republican for many years and it's more recently where she voted democratic. but even then she doesn't seem to have been very political. but it's clear why she wanted to get into the senate when she did and that is ok when it comes to something like the senate.

but in a presidential race people demand to know much more. just think of how all the things candidates did in their teens, 20s etc comes out.

as for the performance art i just think it's part of the whole culture of people needing fame, attention etc. you see it on things like facebook , twitter, reality tv shows. for some it's a website like DU and getting recs and responses .

some have actually accused others of being jealous for not getting as many recs as some others.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
26. I can't speak for all of those who like Warren, but I believe they see her and those senators allied
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 12:42 AM
Oct 2014

with her as an alternative to the party mainstream which is a bit more conservative. It's not a game as you so artfully try to make it out to be. Personally I see nothing wrong with it.

JI7

(89,246 posts)
30. i agree, that's why she doesn't have much support on the ground as there was for Obama early on
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 12:46 AM
Oct 2014

i mean, based on the internet Kucnich should have been the nominee in 2004 and 2008 .

and Obama should have had a primary challenger because the party was just SOOO disappointed in him.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
64. no
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 09:01 AM
Oct 2014

what happened is that under Bill (and sadly, Obama) we keep getting the "yeah, all I got you was garbage to eat, but it is all you deserve, as the GOp wanted to feed you poison."

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
85. lol. there are sure are. there are a number of coservadems pretending to be liberals.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:16 PM
Oct 2014

they're just mindless partisans who happen to dems. No smarter than your average shit repuke.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
88. Actually there are ALOT more Independents....trying to tell Democrats what to do!
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:18 PM
Oct 2014

No smarter than your average shit Teapuke!

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
87. Wrong again.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:18 PM
Oct 2014

The people who want Warren to run for President believe she has the right message. Same goes for Sanders. It's not about personalities and it's not about discord.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
89. She damn near the same as Hillary! The WRONG would be YOU!
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:23 PM
Oct 2014


Hillary Clinton's vs




Elizabeth Warren





Uh you were saying?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
91. I've told you before why this chart is bullshit.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:26 PM
Oct 2014

I'm not going to re-hash it again, except to point out there's nothing in that matrix that captures the sharp contrast between Hillary and Warren when it comes to dealing with income inequality in general and Wall Street in particular.

Take your performance art somewhere else. I'm bored with your act.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
93. and I have told YOU to prove it with a better graph....Until YOU do .......
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:27 PM
Oct 2014

ppfffffftttttttttt.....Nuts to you!

Back up your rhetoric!

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
96. I've explained to you, in detail, why that chart is crap.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:29 PM
Oct 2014

You wanna be in denial? Go right ahead. Have a nice life.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
98. I don't care what YOU think.....back up your bullshit!
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:29 PM
Oct 2014

I have a graph and lots of evidence to support my contention....

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
97. As far as I'm concerned....
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:29 PM
Oct 2014

that's just wishful thinking on your part. I would love to see Liz Warren run for President, as long as she has a strong VP by her side! I'd vote for her in a heart beat.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
4. Warren would never make up a SniperGate story like Hillary did.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:48 PM
Oct 2014

That is completely unacceptable for so many reasons. What will be her next big one, and will we be able to find out as easily as that creepy story. Unfit.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. You apparently didn't follow her Senate race.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 09:08 PM
Oct 2014

The wingnuts still make Pocahontas and Minnie Haha jokes about her, owing to the fact that Warren claimed (and got listed in university diversity records as) native heritage. She has none.

What's "unfit" or "unacceptable" is people getting all bent out of shape about things like this that don't matter in the big scheme.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
16. I can't compare 'Minnie Haha' with Snipergate.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 09:52 PM
Oct 2014

That's just silly. Warren is not a bald faced ridiculous liar.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. Maybe you can't, but the RNC and all their minions can--and do. Often. Constantly. It is a
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 10:11 PM
Oct 2014

relentless, repeated remark with regard to her--they love to photoshop pictures of her in "Indian" garb that are unflattering and mocking--you know, the way immature assholes who play stupid "personality games" will do.

Use google if you don't believe me. It's a recurring theme, far more than your imagined "snipergate" (it's not a "gate" so give that up).

HRC isn't a "bald faced ridiculous liar," either. What a shitty thing to say about a Democrat. I guess we won't be seeing much of you come general election season if you keep that attitude up. You HAVE read the TOS, I assume?

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
18. So, the republicans do all sorts of stupid things.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 10:22 PM
Oct 2014

Letting them rule what is and isn't said is ridiculous and shake in your boots that they may become nasty?.... If there is nothing there they just make shit up, I think everyone here knows that.

Criticism of democrats isn't allowed here? Oh, you mean criticism of Hillary Clinton, because I see some pretty powerful disrespectful things flung at the President.

Yes, I read the terms and there is nothing there that I am astray of. Democrats get pounded here regularly and especially the President, but it is unlawful to point out the Fact of Snipergate?

And it is no lie that Hillary lied the big fat one, the mudder of all lies - so I don't know what the hell you are accusing me of. It is on tape, in her words so rewriting that particular part of history may be slightly difficult. I'm sorry that her bone headed theater upsets you so much because there is no way to defend it. For someone to go to that length in lies and expect not to be discovered, well, something upstairs ain't right.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
19. If you aren't going to bother to even read what I write, I'm not going to bother engaging you.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 10:23 PM
Oct 2014

Read the TOS and have a nice day.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
65. All Day All Night Criticism NO!
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 09:02 AM
Oct 2014

this board is ABOUT electing DEMOCRATS.....it says so right in the Mission Statement.


but you know that right?

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
77. and Hillary declared running for what exactly? Is it possible to 'elect' someone
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:06 AM
Oct 2014

who hasn't even said she is running?

ok.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
83. you don't even know what the fuck "pole position" means obviously...
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:14 PM
Oct 2014


Ask Dale Earnhardt Jr what it means

pssssssttttt.....It means she is the OBVIOUS front-runner!
 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
117. ''you don't even know what the fuck "pole position" means obviously...''
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 04:26 PM
Oct 2014

I don't think you do either!
We should have some laughs over a drink about this one! lol.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. Way to ignore the context of the conversation.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 01:09 AM
Oct 2014

Was that deliberate, or an accident?

Are you saying that the GOP never said--and don't continue to say--those awful things? It's not a LIE to note that they do say those things, with vigor, too, but I will say this: for you to suggest that I'm shopping GOP lies in a "touting" fashion (as your subject line snarkily suggests) is just about what I'd expect from you.

And you wonder why you get push-back, when you play those kinds of uncivil, out-of-context games?

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
78. RW talking points all to defend Hillary Clinton's obvious and proven lie
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:08 AM
Oct 2014

that she (and her team?) hatched up out of thin nothing air and sent it out to the gullibles.

But somehow, on another planet and time rip, Warren's Pocohantas is JUST AS BAD!

Go Figure!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
31. "She has none." is an unproven claim. The truth is that her heritage wasn't documented.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 12:49 AM
Oct 2014

So it can neither be proven true or false:

Native American controversy

In April 2012, the Boston Herald drew attention to Warren's law directory entries from 1986 to 1995, in which she had self-identified as having Native American ancestry.[56][57] Because of these entries, Harvard Law School had added her to a list of minority professors in response to criticisms about a lack of faculty diversity. Warren said that she was unaware that Harvard had done so until she read about it in a newspaper.[58][59][60] According to Warren and her brothers, they grew up "listening to our mother and grandmother and other relatives talk about our family’s Cherokee and Delaware heritage".[61][62][63][64]

The New England Historical Genealogical Society found no documentary proof of Warren having Native American lineage,[62][65] but a spokesperson from the Oklahoma Historical Society said "finding a definitive answer about Native American heritage can be difficult, not only because of intermarriage, but also because some Native Americans opted not to be put on federal rolls, while others who were not Native American did put their names on rolls to get access to land."[66]

Her ethnicity claims became the focus of the media's election coverage for a certain time, during which her opponents bought ads asking her for explanations and to "come clean about her motivations" and some members of the Cherokee Nation asked how her claim influenced universities interested in hiring her.[56] Colleagues and supervisors at the schools where she had worked publicly supported her statement that she did not receive preferential treatment.[59][60][62] In polls, 72% of voters said the issue would not impact their vote in the election.[67]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren#Native_American_controversy


I think that the Republicans will look foolish trying such a tactic.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
39. It's not a case of "will look foolish"--they've already done it and they continue to do it.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 01:32 AM
Oct 2014

They delight in so doing. I won't do the googling for you, but it's easy pickings, that kind of stuff, if you want to find it.

And look, I worked very hard to help get EW elected, but some dogs just don't hunt. Looking for any native ancestry in her lineage is one of those non-hunting pooches. If there was, indeed, a DNA test done, you'd think that those results would have been released if they were exculpatory. But they weren't, and the story has shifted to "That is what I was told as a child."

And that's fine. I don't care. William Henry Harrison campaigned on being born in a log cabin, when in actual fact he was born in a mansion. Chester Arthur may not have been born in Vermont, he probably wasn't born in the USA, but instead, over the border in Canada. Of course, he was just an infant, how would he know for sure? Politicians lie all the time. So do their families. Unless they're lying us into wars or lying about what they're spending the taxpayer's money on, I don't really give a shit if they pad their resumes or family histories. It's just not important in the big scheme of things. If HRC was scared shitless landing in a sketchy area where fighting had been going on, and she remembered it as scarier than it actually was, so - effing - what. It's nothing to make a person "unforgiven" and if that's all it takes, anyone feeling that way wasn't going to vote for HRC anyway.

I don't care if Elizabeth Warren was related to Snidley Evilmonger The Worst Slave Driver Who Ever Lived. I don't care if her ancestors include General Custer or if we learn Ronald Reagan is her second cousin. I like her as my Senator, and if she runs for reelection at the end of her term, I will vote for her again. But I'd bet against her having any native American blood of substance (i.e. greater than a percentage of a single percent). I just would.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
66. I have 2 grandparents that were known to be half Cherokee....
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 09:06 AM
Oct 2014

upon first looking at me and my blue eyes.....you might not see that either.

We so far haven't been able to find ourselves in the Indian rolls. So I do not doubt what Warren is saying at all.

If some on the Left take up this kind of tactic...SHAME on them!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
125. This has been unpacked, aired, resolved, repacked and put away by the left.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 01:44 AM
Oct 2014

But the right continues to air it like it matters. They love to make Pocahontas jokes when they want to make fun of EW. Scott Brown's supporters did war whoops and tomahawk chops when they counter-protested EW rallies. It didn't earn him any points--people were repulsed at the blatant racism.

As I've said elsewhere, I think the reason that EW now says that she believed what her parents told her (and she does NOT try to continue to claim any native heritage) is because she's run the DNA and she knows the facts now.

She's not the first person to believe family lore. LOTS of people love to say they "have a little Indian" in them. Most, when the DNA comes back, find to their great shock that they don't.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
120. MADem, do you know what that was all about?
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 06:44 PM
Oct 2014
owing to the fact that Warren claimed (and got listed in university diversity records as) native heritage. She has none.


What the hell did she do that for?

Edit: Just saw NYC Skip's post which provided a bit more info.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
124. She believed what her parents told her, I'm sure. I don't think she had a deceitful bone in her
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 01:29 AM
Oct 2014

body. She lived in a state (OK) where "most people" claimed that heritage--it was fashionable to so do, sort of like being descended from the Mayflower families used to be "cool" in New England. I'll bet half of her neighbors who made the claim were talking up an unproven family rumor, too. That said, I do believe the quiet rumblings amongst those who are close to her throne that she sent off the DNA and got bad news back, which is why she fell back on the "I believed what my parents told me" TRUTH. Tell the truth, I say--it's always easier.

Skip Gates (who does the PBS show on Ancestry) uses the DNA tool all the time--sometimes (in fact, MOST times) people who think they have "native American" blood find, to their shock, there's none there, despite family stories that stretch back generations. His family tree--that he thought was full of native peoples--was bereft of them as well. I think this might be the case with EW.

Bottom line, though--I don't care about her ancestry--she didn't pick her forebears. She doesn't need a specific heritage to do a good job chairing the banking committee.

pnwmom

(108,975 posts)
134. I'm not a Warren acolyte, but what you are saying about her lack of Indian heritage is unfair.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 08:03 PM
Oct 2014

The Cherokee nation lists are incomplete, because they only include people who were living in a certain region at that time. Thus, she couldn't prove her Cherokee heritage, but her detractors also can't prove she doesn't have some Indian blood.

Many people in the west accept the stories their grandparents told them about Indian relatives, and have good reason to believe them. I think she sincerely believed the family lore that came to her, and for all we know it could be right.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
6. Hillary is too hawkish. See IWR vote and support for Bush's wars.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:03 PM
Oct 2014

Warren's support for Israel's atrocities are certainly worth considering when I vote.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. I don't need perfection. I'd settle for adequacy
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:12 PM
Oct 2014

And as you point out there are precious few, if any, democrats who meet progressive adequacy. where your argument falls down though is that you seem to hold this as something that should not only be accepted, but something democrats should take pride in.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
8. You may get your wish with
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:14 PM
Oct 2014

a nomination of Hillary; but be careful what you wish for.

As I have said in other OPs: If it will be Clinton vs Bush, it will come to the lowest turnout ever.

Times have changed and same old same old will not be well received, imo.

PAProgressive28

(270 posts)
9. It's not about perfection
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:23 PM
Oct 2014

The people who turned on Warren and/or Bernie solely over their Israel comments are concerned with perfection.

Hillary has a long way to go to be near progressive. That's the issue. People have a right to be concerned.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
90. Yes I very much am....
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:24 PM
Oct 2014

and here is Elizabeth Warren's



and here is Bernie Sanders




sooooooooo your point is?

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
100. Those things are absurdly inaccurate.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 03:06 PM
Oct 2014

They're built, as I understand it, from the politicians' votes and statements on various subjects. The problem is that politicians play politics. They pander with rhetoric. They vote for things their constituents want when those things have no chance of passing, and vote against things their constituents oppose, but only if they're guaranteed to pass anyway.

What's more, they're very binary; representing the politician's statement within the context of mainstream political debate at that moment. Clinton's position on Obama's health insurance reform, for instance, would add a point to her "left wing" credentials, even though that plan was not left wing.

You can't build an accurate picture of a politician's ideology that way. These charts might accurately portray the image the politician would like to project, but little else. Hillary Clinton's position on the TPP, Keystone XL, and Syria alone make that red dot's position laughable.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
102. then come up with your own graphs and supporting evidence to prove it!
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 03:10 PM
Oct 2014

here's mine....what have YOU got?

Strongly Favors topic 1:
Abortion is a woman's unrestricted right
(+5 points on Social scale) Lift ban on stem cell research to cure devastating diseases: Favors topic 1
Respect Roe v. Wade, but make adoptions easier too: Favors topic 1
Alternatives to pro-choice like forced pregnancy in Romania: Strongly Favors topic 1
Must safeguard constitutional rights, including choice: Favors topic 1
Remain vigilant on a woman’s right to chose: Favors topic 1
Keep abortion safe, legal and rare: Favors topic 1
Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion: Favors topic 1
Supports parental notice & family planning: Opposes topic 1
No abortion for sex selection in China: Opposes topic 1
Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus: Favors topic 1
Endorsed Recommended by EMILY's List of pro-choice women: Favors topic 1
Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record: Strongly Favors topic 1
Expand embryonic stem cell research: Favors topic 1
Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women: Favors topic 1
Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims: Favors topic 1
Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance: Strongly Favors topic 1
Provide emergency contraception at military facilities: Favors topic 1
Ensure access to and funding for contraception: Favors topic 1
Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception: Favors topic 1
NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion: Strongly Favors topic 1
NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP: Favors topic 1
NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life: Strongly Favors topic 1
NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime: Favors topic 1
YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives: Favors topic 1
NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions: Favors topic 1
YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines: Favors topic 1
Strongly Favors topic 2:
Legally require hiring women & minorities
(-5 points on Economic scale) Some world leaders are still misogynistic: Favors topic 2
We’ve come a long way on race, but we have a long way to go: Strongly Favors topic 2
Apologize for slavery, but concentrate on civil rights now: Favors topic 2
Human rights are women’s rights: Neutral on topic 2
Women’s rights are human rights: Favors topic 2
OpEd: "18 million cracks" meant "lingering sexism": Strongly Favors topic 2
Equal pay is not yet equal: Strongly Favors topic 2
1988: Instituted gender diversity Report Card within ABA: Strongly Opposes topic 2
Argued with Bill Clinton about diluting affirmative action: Strongly Favors topic 2
Shift from group preferences to economic empowerment of all: Neutral on topic 2
Sponsored bill maintaining role of women in armed forces: Favors topic 2
Rated 96% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance: Strongly Favors topic 2
Recognize Juneteenth as historical end of slavery: Strongly Favors topic 2
Re-introduce the Equal Rights Amendment: Strongly Favors topic 2
Reinforce anti-discrimination and equal-pay requirements: Favors topic 2
Ban discriminatory compensation; allow 2 years to sue: Favors topic 2
Sponsored bill enforcing against gender pay discrimination: Strongly Favors topic 2
Strongly Favors topic 3:
Comfortable with same-sex marriage
(+5 points on Social scale) Increase America’s commitment against Global AIDS: Favors topic 3
DOMA discrimination holds us back from a more perfect union: Strongly Favors topic 3
I support gay marriage personally and as law: Strongly Favors topic 3
Let states decide gay marriage; they’re ahead of feds: Favors topic 3
2004:defended traditional marriage; 2006:voted for same-sex: Strongly Favors topic 3
Federal Marriage Amendment would be terrible step backwards: Favors topic 3
Gays deserve domestic partnership benefits: Strongly Favors topic 3
Military service based on conduct, not sexual orientation: Favors topic 3
More funding and stricter sentencing for hate crimes: Strongly Favors topic 3
Rated 89% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance: Strongly Favors topic 3
Provide benefits to domestic partners of Federal employees: Strongly Favors topic 3
YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes: Strongly Favors topic 3
NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage: Strongly Favors topic 3
No opinion on topic 4:
Keep God in the public sphere
(0 points on Social scale) Partner with faith based community in empowerment zones: Strongly Favors topic 4
Tap into churches to avoid more Louima & Diallo cases: Favors topic 4
Community involvement helps, but only in short term: Favors topic 4
Link payments to good parenting behavior: Opposes topic 4
Allow student prayer, but no religious instruction: Opposes topic 4
Character education: teach empathy & self-discipline: Favors topic 4
Change what kids see in the media: Favors topic 4
Co-sponsored bill to criminalize flag-burning: Favors topic 4
Rated 0% by the Christian Coalition: an anti-Family-Value voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 4
Rated 100% by the AU, indicating support of church-state separation: Strongly Opposes topic 4
NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration: Opposes topic 4
Strongly Favors topic 5:
Expand ObamaCare
(-5 points on Economic scale) Outcry if AIDS were leading disease of young whites: Favors topic 5
Lower costs and improve quality and cover everybody: Strongly Favors topic 5
Supply more medical needs of families, & insure all children: Strongly Favors topic 5
Medicare should be strengthened today: Favors topic 5
Smaller steps to progress on health care: Favors topic 5
Guaranteed benefits & focus on prevention: Neutral on topic 5
2006: If I can't do universal coverage, why run?: Strongly Favors topic 5
Universal health care will not work if it is voluntary: Strongly Favors topic 5
Universal health care coverage by the end of my second term: Strongly Favors topic 5
We need a uniquely American solution to health care: Favors topic 5
Health care initiatives are her first priority in Senate: Strongly Favors topic 5
Establish "report cards" on HMO quality of care: Favors topic 5
Invest funds to alleviate the nursing shortage: Favors topic 5
Let states make bulk Rx purchases, and other innovations: Opposes topic 5
Rated 100% by APHA, indicating a pro-public health record: Strongly Favors topic 5
Preserve access to Medicaid & SCHIP during economic downturn: Strongly Favors topic 5
NO on means-testing to determine Medicare Part D premium: Favors topic 5
NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit: Favors topic 5
NO on $40 billion per year for limited Medicare prescription drug benefit: Opposes topic 5
YES on increasing Medicaid rebate for producing generics: Favors topic 5
YES on negotiating bulk purchases for Medicare prescription drug: Strongly Favors topic 5
YES on expanding enrollment period for Medicare Part D: Favors topic 5
NO on limiting medical liability lawsuits to $250,000: Opposes topic 5
YES on requiring negotiated Rx prices for Medicare part D: Favors topic 5
YES on overriding veto on expansion of Medicare: Favors topic 5
Strongly Opposes topic 6:
Privatize Social Security
(-5 points on Economic scale) 1997: Hillary warned against privatizing Social Security: Strongly Opposes topic 6
Soc.Sec. one of greatest inventions in American democracy: Strongly Opposes topic 6
Social Security protects families, not just retirees: Strongly Opposes topic 6
All should join the debate now to preserve future solvency: Opposes topic 6
Create Retirement Savings Accounts: Favors topic 6
Rated 100% by the ARA, indicating a pro-senior voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 6
NO on establishing reserve funds & pre-funding for Social Security: Opposes topic 6
Strongly Opposes topic 7:
Vouchers for school choice
(-5 points on Economic scale) OpEd: Common Core recycled from Clintons in 1980s and 1990s: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Fully fund special education & 21st century classrooms: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Supports public school choice; but not private nor parochial: Opposes topic 7
Vouchers drain money from public schools: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Fight with Gore for public schools; no voucher “gimmicks”: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Charter schools provide choice within public system: Opposes topic 7
Vouchers siphon off much-needed resources: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Parents can choose, but support public schools: Opposes topic 7
Supports public school choice and charter schools: Favors topic 7
Solemn vow never to abandon our public schools: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Offer every parent Charter Schools and public school choice: Opposes topic 7
Rated 82% by the NEA, indicating pro-public education votes: Strongly Opposes topic 7
YES on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors: Opposes topic 7
YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors: Opposes topic 7
YES on $5B for grants to local educational agencies: Opposes topic 7
Strongly Opposes topic 8:
Clean air and water are property rights
(-5 points on Social scale) $5B for green-collar jobs in economic stimulus package: Opposes topic 8
Voted against and consistently opposed to Yucca Mountain: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Scored 100% on Humane Society Scorecard on animal protection: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Remove PCBs from Hudson River by dredging 200 miles: Opposes topic 8
Rated 89% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes: Strongly Opposes topic 8
EPA must do better on mercury clean-up: Opposes topic 8
Grants for beach water pollution under Clean Water Act: Opposes topic 8
Strengthen prohibitions against animal fighting: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Opposes topic 9:
Stricter punishment reduces crime
(+2 points on Social scale) Longtime advocate of death penalty, with restrictions: Strongly Favors topic 9
Address the unacceptable increase in incarceration: Opposes topic 9
Mandatory sentences have been too widely used: Strongly Opposes topic 9
Give kids after-school activities to prevent gangs: Opposes topic 9
Spend more time with kids to prevent violence: Opposes topic 9
Supports citizen patrols & 3-Strikes-You’re-Out: Favors topic 9
Supports “Three Strikes” and more prison: Strongly Favors topic 9
End hate crimes and other intolerance: Favors topic 9
Require DNA testing for all federal executions: Opposes topic 9
Increase funding for "COPS ON THE BEAT" program: Opposes topic 9
Reduce recidivism by giving offenders a Second Chance: Strongly Opposes topic 9
YES on reinstating $1.15 billion funding for the COPS Program: Opposes topic 9
Strongly Opposes topic 10:
Absolute right to gun ownership
(-5 points on Economic scale) Rein in idea that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Against illegal guns, crack down on illegal gun dealers: Opposes topic 10
Get assault weapons & guns off the street: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Background check system could prevent Virginia Tech massacre: Opposes topic 10
Congress’ failure at Littleton response inspired Senate run: Opposes topic 10
Limit access to weapons; look for early warning signs: Opposes topic 10
License and register all handgun sales: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Gun control protects our children: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Don’t water down sensible gun control legislation: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Lock up guns; store ammo separately: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Get weapons off the streets; zero tolerance for weapons: Opposes topic 10
Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology: Opposes topic 10
NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence: Strongly Opposes topic 10
NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Strongly Favors topic 11:
Higher taxes on the wealthy
(-5 points on Economic scale) Rescind tax cuts for those making more than $250,000 a year: Strongly Favors topic 11
Pay down debt & cut taxes within balanced budget: Favors topic 11
GOP tax plan would hurt New York’s students: Favors topic 11
Rated 21% by NTU, indicating a "Big Spender" on tax votes: Strongly Favors topic 11
Rated 80% by the CTJ, indicating support of progressive taxation: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on raising the Death Tax exemption to $5M from $1M: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on allowing AMT reduction without budget offset: Favors topic 11
YES on reducing marriage penalty instead of cutting top tax rates: Favors topic 11
YES on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction: Favors topic 11
NO on $350 billion in tax breaks over 11 years: Strongly Favors topic 11
YES on extending the tax cuts on capital gains and dividends: Strongly Opposes topic 11
YES on $47B for military by repealing capital gains tax cut: Favors topic 11
YES on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends: Strongly Opposes topic 11
NO on permanently repealing the `death tax`: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on supporting permanence of estate tax cuts: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on raising estate tax exemption to $5 million: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax: Strongly Favors topic 11
Favors topic 12:
Pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens
(+2 points on Social scale) Introduce a path to earn citizenship in the first 100 days: Strongly Favors topic 12
Consider halting certain raids on illegal immigrant families: Favors topic 12
Deporting all illegal immigrants is unrealistic: Strongly Favors topic 12
Illegal immigrants with driver’s licenses puts them at risk: Opposes topic 12
Oppose granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants: Opposes topic 12
More border patrolling on both Mexican AND Canadian borders: Opposes topic 12
Anti-immigrant bill would have criminalized Jesus Christ: Strongly Favors topic 12
Sanctuary cities ok; local police can’t enforce immigration: Favors topic 12
Comprehensive reform to get 12 million out of shadows: Strongly Favors topic 12
Sponsored bill covering child resident aliens under Medicaid: Favors topic 12
Sponsored bill funding social services for noncitizens: Favors topic 12
Rated 8% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities": Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on establishing a Guest Worker program: Favors topic 12
YES on building a fence along the Mexican border: Strongly Opposes topic 12
YES on eliminating the "Y" nonimmigrant guestworker program: Neutral topic 12
NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on comprehensive immigration reform: Strongly Favors topic 12
Opposes topic 13:
Support & expand free trade
(-3 points on Economic scale) Smart, pro-American trade: NAFTA has hurt workers: Strongly Opposes topic 13
No fast-track authority for this president: Opposes topic 13
Defended outsourcing of US jobs to India: Favors topic 13
1980s: Loved Wal-Mart's "Buy America" program: Opposes topic 13
Globalization should not substitute for humanization: Opposes topic 13
Supports MFN for China, despite concerns over human rights: Strongly Favors topic 13
Build a rule-based global trading system: Favors topic 13
Rated 17% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on removing common goods from national security export rules: Favors topic 13
YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam: Favors topic 13
NO on extending free trade to Andean nations: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on establishing free trade between US & Singapore: Favors topic 13
YES on establishing free trade between the US and Chile: Favors topic 13
NO on implementing CAFTA for Central America free-trade: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on free trade agreement with Oman: Strongly Favors topic 13
Opposes topic 14:
Maintain US sovereignty from UN
(-3 points on Economic scale) US support & no-fly zone, but UN troops on ground in Darfur: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Support UN reform because US benefits: Opposes topic 14
2002 Iraq speech criticized both Saddam and U.N.: Opposes topic 14
Urged President to veto UN condemnation of Israel: Favors topic 14
Engage in world affairs, including human rights: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Keep Cuban embargo; pay UN bills: Opposes topic 14
2002: Attacking Iraq "not a good option" but authorized it: Favors topic 14
Voted against Levin Amendment: it gave UN veto over US: Favors topic 14
Dems believe in fighting terror with cooperation: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Restore habeas corpus for detainees in the War on Terror: Opposes topic 14
YES on preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees: Strongly Opposes topic 14
YES on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods: Strongly Opposes topic 14
NO on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad: Strongly Opposes topic 14
No opinion on topic 15:
Expand the military
(0 points on Social scale) There is no safe haven for the terrorists: Favors topic 15
Our troops are stretched; so increase size of military: Favors topic 15
Rated 100% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 15
Extend reserve retirement pay parity back to 9/11: Favors topic 15
Improve mental health care benefits for returning veterans: Favors topic 15
YES on requiring on-budget funding for Iraq, not emergency funding: Opposes topic 15
YES on limiting soldiers' deployment to 12 months: Opposes topic 15
Strongly Favors topic 16:
Stricter limits on voting rights
(-5 points on Social scale) Voter suppression revives old demons of discrimination: Favors topic 16
Stand for public financing and getting money out of politics: Strongly Favors topic 16
Presidents should reveal donations to their foundations: Strongly Favors topic 16
Move to public election financing, not banning lobbyists: Strongly Favors topic 16
Verified paper ballot for every electronic voting machines: Favors topic 16
Called for ban on all soft money in 2000 campaign: Favors topic 16
Prohibit 'voter caging' which intimidates minority voting: Favors topic 16
YES on banning campaign donations from unions & corporations: Favors topic 16
YES on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads: Favors topic 16
NO on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity: Opposes topic 16
NO on allowing some lobbyist gifts to Congress: Strongly Favors topic 16
Favors topic 17:
Stay out of Iran
(+2 points on Social scale) Smartest strategic choice is peace: Favors topic 17
Extend peace treaties to Palestinians, Syrians & Lebanese: Favors topic 17
Foreign aid spending is only 1%; lead by remaining engaged: Strongly Favors topic 17
Up to the Iraqis to decide the future they will have: Favors topic 17
Demand Bush to explain to Congress on his plan on Iraq: Favors topic 17
Deauthorize Iraq war, and don’t grant new war authority: Strongly Favors topic 17
Phased redeployment out of Iraq, beginning immediately: Strongly Favors topic 17
Withdraw troops within 60 days after taking office: Strongly Favors topic 17
Voted for Iraq war based on available info; now would not: Favors topic 17
Progressive Internationalism: globalize with US pre-eminence: Favors topic 17
No troop surge: no military escalation in Iraq: Strongly Favors topic 17
Require Congress' approval before military action in Iran: Favors topic 17
YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq: Strongly Opposes topic 17
NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007: Strongly Opposes topic 17
YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq by March 2008: Strongly Favors topic 17
Strongly Favors topic 18:
Prioritize green energy
(-5 points on Economic scale) $100B per year by 2020 for climate change mitigation: Strongly Favors topic 18
Remove energy dependence on countries who would harm us: Strongly Favors topic 18
Stands for clean air and funding the EPA: Favors topic 18
Reduce air pollution to improve children’s health: Favors topic 18
Ratify Kyoto; more mass transit: Strongly Favors topic 18
Supports tradable emissions permits for greenhouse gases: Favors topic 18
Keep efficient air conditioner rule to conserve energy: Strongly Favors topic 18
Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances: Strongly Favors topic 18
Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence: Favors topic 18
Designate sensitive ANWR area as protected wilderness: Favors topic 18
Set goal of 25% renewable energy by 2025: Strongly Favors topic 18
Let states define stricter-than-federal emission standards: Strongly Favors topic 18
Gas tax holiday for the summer: Opposes topic 18
NO on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill: Favors topic 18
YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%): Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge: Favors topic 18
YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning: Favors topic 18
YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies: Strongly Favors topic 18
Opposes topic 19:
Never legalize marijuana
(+2 points on Social scale) Medical marijuana maybe ok; states decide recreational use: Opposes topic 19
Divert non-violent drug offenders away from prison: Strongly Opposes topic 19
Address drug problem with treatment and special drug courts: Strongly Opposes topic 19
End harsher sentencing for crack vs. powder cocaine: Opposes topic 19
Require chemical resellers to certify against meth use: Favors topic 19
Strongly Favors topic 20:
Stimulus better than market-led recovery
(-5 points on Economic scale) Wealthy should go back to paying pre-Bush tax rates: Favors topic 20
Want to restore the tax rates we had in the ‘90s: Favors topic 20
Help people facing foreclosure; don’t just bail-out banks: Strongly Favors topic 20
Minimum wage increases haven’t kept up with Congress’ wages: Strongly Favors topic 20
Co-sponsored bills totaling $502B in spending thru 2005: Strongly Favors topic 20
End Bush tax cuts;take things away from rich for common good: Favors topic 20
Social issues matter; wrong time for tax cuts: Strongly Favors topic 20
Use tax dollars to upgrade infrastructure, not for stadium: Strongly Favors topic 20
America can afford to raise the minimum wage: Strongly Favors topic 20
Just Say No to GOP tax plan: Strongly Favors topic 20
YES on increasing tax rate for people earning over $1 million: Strongly Favors topic 20

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
107. Ok-- here you go.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 03:20 PM
Oct 2014


That is a detailed, thoroughly-researched, scientific graph representing the beneficiaries of the TPP, which Hillary Clinton supports.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
10. The Progressive Pursuit of Perfection...
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:28 PM
Oct 2014

Why is it that things like a living wage, a decent education, sound environmental policy, justice and equality in the law, and putting a stop to using WAR as the first solution to every problem considered "a pony" or "perfection"?

I don't seek perfection... I seek sanity.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
130. then you must no read the news
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 09:18 AM
Oct 2014

"putting a stop to using WAR as the first solution to every problem "

In other words, no imperial decress like saying "Assad must go"

No jokes about "we came, we saw, he died"

No threats to "oliterate" Iran.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
132. Children want to play with ponies in the sunshine, and eat candy everyday.
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 07:49 PM
Oct 2014

Adults realize they need deal with the world as it really is, and try to do the best they can.

If a political leader confronts a world of shit, or when their best efforts cause unforeseen consequences, or fail altogether, or when their adversaries actively work to undermine them, it does not automatically them an evil person. It just means they're human. (Another thing children don't recognize or understand.)

You want to make the world a better place? You have to support political leaders who not only wish to make the world a better place too BUT ARE ABLE TO DO SO! If not then you're harming the cause you claim to support.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
136. adults
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 09:43 PM
Oct 2014

well, if we were being ADULTS, than why not make the mature decisions that would show America has grown up, like actually engage Iran, especially as Isis is their mortal enemy.

How about actually leaving Syria alone, and letting Putin waste his money trying to keep Assad up, which means that Isis would turn on Russia.

How about not doing things that have not worked, and will not work? Only a child will keep doing something that makes nothing but messes.

That's not ponies. The only ones playing with ponies are people who really think that one more airstrike or one more controlled war will stabilize the mid east, a place that has never known peace since the days of recorded history.

As far as being able to do so (per your loud italics), what makes you think people who think another mid east war will do the trick this time ARE ABLE TO DO SO. If all Hillary brings to the table is MORE WAR, then she is NOT ABLE TO DO SO, period.

And if you think Hillary will somehow bring the Mid east to heel, then my friend, what ponies are you riding? Some of us want this country to grow up and stop being the big dumb kid that gets into wars to feed the corporations.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
13. It is interesting to see the rollout of the "if you are not for Hillary you are a paid RW operative"
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 08:45 PM
Oct 2014

meme. Yeah, fail.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
74. Yeah, I don't think it's going to fly far.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:39 AM
Oct 2014

It's just absurd, given what we all know about the DLC, Third Way, and it's darling.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
92. I am sorry....that is not a myth....
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:26 PM
Oct 2014

Oh look...its another Indie voter trying to tell Democrats what to do! Instant fail!

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
95. are YOU committed to vote for whomever wins the Democratic Primary election...
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:28 PM
Oct 2014

if cannot answer yes....YOU are no longer a Democrat you are Independent by definition!

Sorry another fail for YOU!

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
21. She is too hawkish. If she gets in I doubt we go 4 years without new boots on the ground somewhere.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 10:29 PM
Oct 2014
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
22. The problem
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 10:43 PM
Oct 2014

isn't a lack of Hillary supporters, it's lack of support for Hillary, period.

I don't like her political platform.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
23. Seems to me that wanting/requiring universal Democratic support for Hillary is - a unicorn.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 11:17 PM
Oct 2014

It is a pony.
It is a narrow-minded quest for perfection.

It is a little creepy, too, that some expect Warren admirers to wheel in lockstep to support Hillary, as if we were delegates at a convention. In fact, I really do get the feeling that the upcoming Democratic Convention is desired to be, by some, as just a Hillary coronation, no primaries were needed, just lots of speeches by the Big Dog, etc.

I think that most Warren supporters would be happy with anyone LIKE Warren. Just don't want a corporate Third Way candidate.
Wanting everyone to support Hillary is, I repeat, a pony.
And she has been around long enough so that attempts to re-frame her are kinda futile. I feel that she would actually inspire more GOPers to come out and vote against her.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
47. The thing is, there has always been attacks on the Dem nom from supposed "progressives"
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 05:30 AM
Oct 2014

Whoever the Dem happens to be - the same script has been used for 25 yrs.

Proof is these "progressives" only attack the leading candidate, nominee, or officeholder enough to sap support from him only with the intention of defeating him - and when support in Congress is required for an actual progressive policy initiative, be it single payer healthcare, or reining in Wall Street & the corporatoctacy, or ending the oil wars, etc, etc, these "progressives" seem to evaporate.

What Warren supporters are doing is exactly what they've accused Hillary supporters of doing (excepting Warren herself, of course): crowning a candidate without the benefit of a primary campaign. The problem being, they don't have a candidate to crown.

That's not a strategy that will ever defeat the GOP. So exactly who does that strategy actually help?

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
24. The "perfection" meme is dead and cold.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 11:25 PM
Oct 2014

That's like if your kid comes home with a 40% on a test and says, "What do you want, perfection??" No, but we'd take something better than failing. We'd like someone we could trust not to jump into military conflicts haphazardly. We'd like someone we could trust the working class' interests with. Is that honestly demanding perfection? I'd call it demanding base minimum common sense and competence.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
35. Perfection? Shit, I'd settle for someone that
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 01:08 AM
Oct 2014

doesn't apologize to Wall Street for the "foolish" backlash to their reckless behavior. Or somebody that didn't vote yes on the IWR without bothering to read the NIE.

nationalize the fed

(2,169 posts)
38. .
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 01:27 AM
Oct 2014




Is it hard to grasp that some people don't support HenryK and the Third Way policy of New World Order?



I don't care if it's a (R) or a (D). If they support strutting around the world dropping bombs and "regime changes" they don't get my vote. That includes Warren too.

It's non-negotiable.
 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
56. Oh no she isn't
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 08:54 AM
Oct 2014

Strongly Favors topic 1:
Abortion is a woman's unrestricted right
(+5 points on Social scale) Lift ban on stem cell research to cure devastating diseases: Favors topic 1
Respect Roe v. Wade, but make adoptions easier too: Favors topic 1
Alternatives to pro-choice like forced pregnancy in Romania: Strongly Favors topic 1
Must safeguard constitutional rights, including choice: Favors topic 1
Remain vigilant on a woman’s right to chose: Favors topic 1
Keep abortion safe, legal and rare: Favors topic 1
Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion: Favors topic 1
Supports parental notice & family planning: Opposes topic 1
No abortion for sex selection in China: Opposes topic 1
Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus: Favors topic 1
Endorsed Recommended by EMILY's List of pro-choice women: Favors topic 1
Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record: Strongly Favors topic 1
Expand embryonic stem cell research: Favors topic 1
Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women: Favors topic 1
Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims: Favors topic 1
Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance: Strongly Favors topic 1
Provide emergency contraception at military facilities: Favors topic 1
Ensure access to and funding for contraception: Favors topic 1
Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception: Favors topic 1
NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion: Strongly Favors topic 1
NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP: Favors topic 1
NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life: Strongly Favors topic 1
NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime: Favors topic 1
YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives: Favors topic 1
NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions: Favors topic 1
YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines: Favors topic 1
Strongly Favors topic 2:
Legally require hiring women & minorities
(-5 points on Economic scale) Some world leaders are still misogynistic: Favors topic 2
We’ve come a long way on race, but we have a long way to go: Strongly Favors topic 2
Apologize for slavery, but concentrate on civil rights now: Favors topic 2
Human rights are women’s rights: Neutral on topic 2
Women’s rights are human rights: Favors topic 2
OpEd: "18 million cracks" meant "lingering sexism": Strongly Favors topic 2
Equal pay is not yet equal: Strongly Favors topic 2
1988: Instituted gender diversity Report Card within ABA: Strongly Opposes topic 2
Argued with Bill Clinton about diluting affirmative action: Strongly Favors topic 2
Shift from group preferences to economic empowerment of all: Neutral on topic 2
Sponsored bill maintaining role of women in armed forces: Favors topic 2
Rated 96% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance: Strongly Favors topic 2
Recognize Juneteenth as historical end of slavery: Strongly Favors topic 2
Re-introduce the Equal Rights Amendment: Strongly Favors topic 2
Reinforce anti-discrimination and equal-pay requirements: Favors topic 2
Ban discriminatory compensation; allow 2 years to sue: Favors topic 2
Sponsored bill enforcing against gender pay discrimination: Strongly Favors topic 2
Strongly Favors topic 3:
Comfortable with same-sex marriage
(+5 points on Social scale) Increase America’s commitment against Global AIDS: Favors topic 3
DOMA discrimination holds us back from a more perfect union: Strongly Favors topic 3
I support gay marriage personally and as law: Strongly Favors topic 3
Let states decide gay marriage; they’re ahead of feds: Favors topic 3
2004:defended traditional marriage; 2006:voted for same-sex: Strongly Favors topic 3
Federal Marriage Amendment would be terrible step backwards: Favors topic 3
Gays deserve domestic partnership benefits: Strongly Favors topic 3
Military service based on conduct, not sexual orientation: Favors topic 3
More funding and stricter sentencing for hate crimes: Strongly Favors topic 3
Rated 89% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance: Strongly Favors topic 3
Provide benefits to domestic partners of Federal employees: Strongly Favors topic 3
YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes: Strongly Favors topic 3
NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage: Strongly Favors topic 3
No opinion on topic 4:
Keep God in the public sphere
(0 points on Social scale) Partner with faith based community in empowerment zones: Strongly Favors topic 4
Tap into churches to avoid more Louima & Diallo cases: Favors topic 4
Community involvement helps, but only in short term: Favors topic 4
Link payments to good parenting behavior: Opposes topic 4
Allow student prayer, but no religious instruction: Opposes topic 4
Character education: teach empathy & self-discipline: Favors topic 4
Change what kids see in the media: Favors topic 4
Co-sponsored bill to criminalize flag-burning: Favors topic 4
Rated 0% by the Christian Coalition: an anti-Family-Value voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 4
Rated 100% by the AU, indicating support of church-state separation: Strongly Opposes topic 4
NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration: Opposes topic 4
Strongly Favors topic 5:
Expand ObamaCare
(-5 points on Economic scale) Outcry if AIDS were leading disease of young whites: Favors topic 5
Lower costs and improve quality and cover everybody: Strongly Favors topic 5
Supply more medical needs of families, & insure all children: Strongly Favors topic 5
Medicare should be strengthened today: Favors topic 5
Smaller steps to progress on health care: Favors topic 5
Guaranteed benefits & focus on prevention: Neutral on topic 5
2006: If I can't do universal coverage, why run?: Strongly Favors topic 5
Universal health care will not work if it is voluntary: Strongly Favors topic 5
Universal health care coverage by the end of my second term: Strongly Favors topic 5
We need a uniquely American solution to health care: Favors topic 5
Health care initiatives are her first priority in Senate: Strongly Favors topic 5
Establish "report cards" on HMO quality of care: Favors topic 5
Invest funds to alleviate the nursing shortage: Favors topic 5
Let states make bulk Rx purchases, and other innovations: Opposes topic 5
Rated 100% by APHA, indicating a pro-public health record: Strongly Favors topic 5
Preserve access to Medicaid & SCHIP during economic downturn: Strongly Favors topic 5
NO on means-testing to determine Medicare Part D premium: Favors topic 5
NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit: Favors topic 5
NO on $40 billion per year for limited Medicare prescription drug benefit: Opposes topic 5
YES on increasing Medicaid rebate for producing generics: Favors topic 5
YES on negotiating bulk purchases for Medicare prescription drug: Strongly Favors topic 5
YES on expanding enrollment period for Medicare Part D: Favors topic 5
NO on limiting medical liability lawsuits to $250,000: Opposes topic 5
YES on requiring negotiated Rx prices for Medicare part D: Favors topic 5
YES on overriding veto on expansion of Medicare: Favors topic 5
Strongly Opposes topic 6:
Privatize Social Security
(-5 points on Economic scale) 1997: Hillary warned against privatizing Social Security: Strongly Opposes topic 6
Soc.Sec. one of greatest inventions in American democracy: Strongly Opposes topic 6
Social Security protects families, not just retirees: Strongly Opposes topic 6
All should join the debate now to preserve future solvency: Opposes topic 6
Create Retirement Savings Accounts: Favors topic 6
Rated 100% by the ARA, indicating a pro-senior voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 6
NO on establishing reserve funds & pre-funding for Social Security: Opposes topic 6
Strongly Opposes topic 7:
Vouchers for school choice
(-5 points on Economic scale) OpEd: Common Core recycled from Clintons in 1980s and 1990s: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Fully fund special education & 21st century classrooms: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Supports public school choice; but not private nor parochial: Opposes topic 7
Vouchers drain money from public schools: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Fight with Gore for public schools; no voucher “gimmicks”: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Charter schools provide choice within public system: Opposes topic 7
Vouchers siphon off much-needed resources: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Parents can choose, but support public schools: Opposes topic 7
Supports public school choice and charter schools: Favors topic 7
Solemn vow never to abandon our public schools: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Offer every parent Charter Schools and public school choice: Opposes topic 7
Rated 82% by the NEA, indicating pro-public education votes: Strongly Opposes topic 7
YES on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors: Opposes topic 7
YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors: Opposes topic 7
YES on $5B for grants to local educational agencies: Opposes topic 7
Strongly Opposes topic 8:
Clean air and water are property rights
(-5 points on Social scale) $5B for green-collar jobs in economic stimulus package: Opposes topic 8
Voted against and consistently opposed to Yucca Mountain: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Scored 100% on Humane Society Scorecard on animal protection: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Remove PCBs from Hudson River by dredging 200 miles: Opposes topic 8
Rated 89% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes: Strongly Opposes topic 8
EPA must do better on mercury clean-up: Opposes topic 8
Grants for beach water pollution under Clean Water Act: Opposes topic 8
Strengthen prohibitions against animal fighting: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Opposes topic 9:
Stricter punishment reduces crime
(+2 points on Social scale) Longtime advocate of death penalty, with restrictions: Strongly Favors topic 9
Address the unacceptable increase in incarceration: Opposes topic 9
Mandatory sentences have been too widely used: Strongly Opposes topic 9
Give kids after-school activities to prevent gangs: Opposes topic 9
Spend more time with kids to prevent violence: Opposes topic 9
Supports citizen patrols & 3-Strikes-You’re-Out: Favors topic 9
Supports “Three Strikes” and more prison: Strongly Favors topic 9
End hate crimes and other intolerance: Favors topic 9
Require DNA testing for all federal executions: Opposes topic 9
Increase funding for "COPS ON THE BEAT" program: Opposes topic 9
Reduce recidivism by giving offenders a Second Chance: Strongly Opposes topic 9
YES on reinstating $1.15 billion funding for the COPS Program: Opposes topic 9
Strongly Opposes topic 10:
Absolute right to gun ownership
(-5 points on Economic scale) Rein in idea that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Against illegal guns, crack down on illegal gun dealers: Opposes topic 10
Get assault weapons & guns off the street: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Background check system could prevent Virginia Tech massacre: Opposes topic 10
Congress’ failure at Littleton response inspired Senate run: Opposes topic 10
Limit access to weapons; look for early warning signs: Opposes topic 10
License and register all handgun sales: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Gun control protects our children: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Don’t water down sensible gun control legislation: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Lock up guns; store ammo separately: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Get weapons off the streets; zero tolerance for weapons: Opposes topic 10
Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology: Opposes topic 10
NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence: Strongly Opposes topic 10
NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Strongly Favors topic 11:
Higher taxes on the wealthy
(-5 points on Economic scale) Rescind tax cuts for those making more than $250,000 a year: Strongly Favors topic 11
Pay down debt & cut taxes within balanced budget: Favors topic 11
GOP tax plan would hurt New York’s students: Favors topic 11
Rated 21% by NTU, indicating a "Big Spender" on tax votes: Strongly Favors topic 11
Rated 80% by the CTJ, indicating support of progressive taxation: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on raising the Death Tax exemption to $5M from $1M: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on allowing AMT reduction without budget offset: Favors topic 11
YES on reducing marriage penalty instead of cutting top tax rates: Favors topic 11
YES on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction: Favors topic 11
NO on $350 billion in tax breaks over 11 years: Strongly Favors topic 11
YES on extending the tax cuts on capital gains and dividends: Strongly Opposes topic 11
YES on $47B for military by repealing capital gains tax cut: Favors topic 11
YES on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends: Strongly Opposes topic 11
NO on permanently repealing the `death tax`: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on supporting permanence of estate tax cuts: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on raising estate tax exemption to $5 million: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax: Strongly Favors topic 11
Favors topic 12:
Pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens
(+2 points on Social scale) Introduce a path to earn citizenship in the first 100 days: Strongly Favors topic 12
Consider halting certain raids on illegal immigrant families: Favors topic 12
Deporting all illegal immigrants is unrealistic: Strongly Favors topic 12
Illegal immigrants with driver’s licenses puts them at risk: Opposes topic 12
Oppose granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants: Opposes topic 12
More border patrolling on both Mexican AND Canadian borders: Opposes topic 12
Anti-immigrant bill would have criminalized Jesus Christ: Strongly Favors topic 12
Sanctuary cities ok; local police can’t enforce immigration: Favors topic 12
Comprehensive reform to get 12 million out of shadows: Strongly Favors topic 12
Sponsored bill covering child resident aliens under Medicaid: Favors topic 12
Sponsored bill funding social services for noncitizens: Favors topic 12
Rated 8% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities": Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on establishing a Guest Worker program: Favors topic 12
YES on building a fence along the Mexican border: Strongly Opposes topic 12
YES on eliminating the "Y" nonimmigrant guestworker program: Neutral topic 12
NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on comprehensive immigration reform: Strongly Favors topic 12
Opposes topic 13:
Support & expand free trade
(-3 points on Economic scale) Smart, pro-American trade: NAFTA has hurt workers: Strongly Opposes topic 13
No fast-track authority for this president: Opposes topic 13
Defended outsourcing of US jobs to India: Favors topic 13
1980s: Loved Wal-Mart's "Buy America" program: Opposes topic 13
Globalization should not substitute for humanization: Opposes topic 13
Supports MFN for China, despite concerns over human rights: Strongly Favors topic 13
Build a rule-based global trading system: Favors topic 13
Rated 17% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on removing common goods from national security export rules: Favors topic 13
YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam: Favors topic 13
NO on extending free trade to Andean nations: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on establishing free trade between US & Singapore: Favors topic 13
YES on establishing free trade between the US and Chile: Favors topic 13
NO on implementing CAFTA for Central America free-trade: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on free trade agreement with Oman: Strongly Favors topic 13
Opposes topic 14:
Maintain US sovereignty from UN
(-3 points on Economic scale) US support & no-fly zone, but UN troops on ground in Darfur: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Support UN reform because US benefits: Opposes topic 14
2002 Iraq speech criticized both Saddam and U.N.: Opposes topic 14
Urged President to veto UN condemnation of Israel: Favors topic 14
Engage in world affairs, including human rights: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Keep Cuban embargo; pay UN bills: Opposes topic 14
2002: Attacking Iraq "not a good option" but authorized it: Favors topic 14
Voted against Levin Amendment: it gave UN veto over US: Favors topic 14
Dems believe in fighting terror with cooperation: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Restore habeas corpus for detainees in the War on Terror: Opposes topic 14
YES on preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees: Strongly Opposes topic 14
YES on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods: Strongly Opposes topic 14
NO on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad: Strongly Opposes topic 14
No opinion on topic 15:
Expand the military
(0 points on Social scale) There is no safe haven for the terrorists: Favors topic 15
Our troops are stretched; so increase size of military: Favors topic 15
Rated 100% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 15
Extend reserve retirement pay parity back to 9/11: Favors topic 15
Improve mental health care benefits for returning veterans: Favors topic 15
YES on requiring on-budget funding for Iraq, not emergency funding: Opposes topic 15
YES on limiting soldiers' deployment to 12 months: Opposes topic 15
Strongly Favors topic 16:
Stricter limits on voting rights
(-5 points on Social scale) Voter suppression revives old demons of discrimination: Favors topic 16
Stand for public financing and getting money out of politics: Strongly Favors topic 16
Presidents should reveal donations to their foundations: Strongly Favors topic 16
Move to public election financing, not banning lobbyists: Strongly Favors topic 16
Verified paper ballot for every electronic voting machines: Favors topic 16
Called for ban on all soft money in 2000 campaign: Favors topic 16
Prohibit 'voter caging' which intimidates minority voting: Favors topic 16
YES on banning campaign donations from unions & corporations: Favors topic 16
YES on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads: Favors topic 16
NO on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity: Opposes topic 16
NO on allowing some lobbyist gifts to Congress: Strongly Favors topic 16
Favors topic 17:
Stay out of Iran
(+2 points on Social scale) Smartest strategic choice is peace: Favors topic 17
Extend peace treaties to Palestinians, Syrians & Lebanese: Favors topic 17
Foreign aid spending is only 1%; lead by remaining engaged: Strongly Favors topic 17
Up to the Iraqis to decide the future they will have: Favors topic 17
Demand Bush to explain to Congress on his plan on Iraq: Favors topic 17
Deauthorize Iraq war, and don’t grant new war authority: Strongly Favors topic 17
Phased redeployment out of Iraq, beginning immediately: Strongly Favors topic 17
Withdraw troops within 60 days after taking office: Strongly Favors topic 17
Voted for Iraq war based on available info; now would not: Favors topic 17
Progressive Internationalism: globalize with US pre-eminence: Favors topic 17
No troop surge: no military escalation in Iraq: Strongly Favors topic 17
Require Congress' approval before military action in Iran: Favors topic 17
YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq: Strongly Opposes topic 17
NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007: Strongly Opposes topic 17
YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq by March 2008: Strongly Favors topic 17
Strongly Favors topic 18:
Prioritize green energy
(-5 points on Economic scale) $100B per year by 2020 for climate change mitigation: Strongly Favors topic 18
Remove energy dependence on countries who would harm us: Strongly Favors topic 18
Stands for clean air and funding the EPA: Favors topic 18
Reduce air pollution to improve children’s health: Favors topic 18
Ratify Kyoto; more mass transit: Strongly Favors topic 18
Supports tradable emissions permits for greenhouse gases: Favors topic 18
Keep efficient air conditioner rule to conserve energy: Strongly Favors topic 18
Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances: Strongly Favors topic 18
Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence: Favors topic 18
Designate sensitive ANWR area as protected wilderness: Favors topic 18
Set goal of 25% renewable energy by 2025: Strongly Favors topic 18
Let states define stricter-than-federal emission standards: Strongly Favors topic 18
Gas tax holiday for the summer: Opposes topic 18
NO on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill: Favors topic 18
YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%): Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge: Favors topic 18
YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning: Favors topic 18
YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies: Strongly Favors topic 18
Opposes topic 19:
Never legalize marijuana
(+2 points on Social scale) Medical marijuana maybe ok; states decide recreational use: Opposes topic 19
Divert non-violent drug offenders away from prison: Strongly Opposes topic 19
Address drug problem with treatment and special drug courts: Strongly Opposes topic 19
End harsher sentencing for crack vs. powder cocaine: Opposes topic 19
Require chemical resellers to certify against meth use: Favors topic 19
Strongly Favors topic 20:
Stimulus better than market-led recovery
(-5 points on Economic scale) Wealthy should go back to paying pre-Bush tax rates: Favors topic 20
Want to restore the tax rates we had in the ‘90s: Favors topic 20
Help people facing foreclosure; don’t just bail-out banks: Strongly Favors topic 20
Minimum wage increases haven’t kept up with Congress’ wages: Strongly Favors topic 20
Co-sponsored bills totaling $502B in spending thru 2005: Strongly Favors topic 20
End Bush tax cuts;take things away from rich for common good: Favors topic 20
Social issues matter; wrong time for tax cuts: Strongly Favors topic 20
Use tax dollars to upgrade infrastructure, not for stadium: Strongly Favors topic 20
America can afford to raise the minimum wage: Strongly Favors topic 20
Just Say No to GOP tax plan: Strongly Favors topic 20
YES on increasing tax rate for people earning over $1 million: Strongly Favors topic 20

arthritisR_US

(7,286 posts)
118. So, where is she on TPP? NAFTA was such a winner
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 06:24 PM
Oct 2014

for the everyday person, TPP is their wet dream. Do you think she would tighten regulations on the financial sector? I highly doubt it.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
48. "Perfection" now being defined as..
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 05:38 AM
Oct 2014

"Did not vote for arguably the worst foreign policy disaster in American history".

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
55. So those are the ONLY issues we need to be concerned with?
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 08:53 AM
Oct 2014

What would you do if someone agreed with your positions on those issues....BUT opposed Abortion and Gay Marriage etc?

would YOU vote for that candidate?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
71. Is Hillary the ONLY politician who agrees with me on the issues you named?
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:07 AM
Oct 2014

By 2003 Hillary was very much a Washington insider, plugged into the grapevine. If she didn't know Dick 'n Dubya's Excellent Iraq Adventure was based on purest bullshit then she's far too naive to ever be POTUS and if she did know then her vote was nothing but political calculation.

There were other Democrats who figured it out and made the correct choice, including Barack Obama.

Honestly of all the personalities in DC I'd most like to see run for POTUS it's Michelle Obama, I think she's even tougher and smarter than her husband.




 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
54. Oh your pet peeves again....as if they are the ONLY issues to be concerned with...
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 08:52 AM
Oct 2014

Yeah you are letting the good be the enemy of the perfect....the bain of the Far far Left...

Strongly Favors topic 1:
Abortion is a woman's unrestricted right
(+5 points on Social scale) Lift ban on stem cell research to cure devastating diseases: Favors topic 1
Respect Roe v. Wade, but make adoptions easier too: Favors topic 1
Alternatives to pro-choice like forced pregnancy in Romania: Strongly Favors topic 1
Must safeguard constitutional rights, including choice: Favors topic 1
Remain vigilant on a woman’s right to chose: Favors topic 1
Keep abortion safe, legal and rare: Favors topic 1
Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion: Favors topic 1
Supports parental notice & family planning: Opposes topic 1
No abortion for sex selection in China: Opposes topic 1
Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus: Favors topic 1
Endorsed Recommended by EMILY's List of pro-choice women: Favors topic 1
Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record: Strongly Favors topic 1
Expand embryonic stem cell research: Favors topic 1
Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women: Favors topic 1
Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims: Favors topic 1
Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance: Strongly Favors topic 1
Provide emergency contraception at military facilities: Favors topic 1
Ensure access to and funding for contraception: Favors topic 1
Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception: Favors topic 1
NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion: Strongly Favors topic 1
NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP: Favors topic 1
NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life: Strongly Favors topic 1
NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime: Favors topic 1
YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives: Favors topic 1
NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions: Favors topic 1
YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines: Favors topic 1
Strongly Favors topic 2:
Legally require hiring women & minorities
(-5 points on Economic scale) Some world leaders are still misogynistic: Favors topic 2
We’ve come a long way on race, but we have a long way to go: Strongly Favors topic 2
Apologize for slavery, but concentrate on civil rights now: Favors topic 2
Human rights are women’s rights: Neutral on topic 2
Women’s rights are human rights: Favors topic 2
OpEd: "18 million cracks" meant "lingering sexism": Strongly Favors topic 2
Equal pay is not yet equal: Strongly Favors topic 2
1988: Instituted gender diversity Report Card within ABA: Strongly Opposes topic 2
Argued with Bill Clinton about diluting affirmative action: Strongly Favors topic 2
Shift from group preferences to economic empowerment of all: Neutral on topic 2
Sponsored bill maintaining role of women in armed forces: Favors topic 2
Rated 96% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance: Strongly Favors topic 2
Recognize Juneteenth as historical end of slavery: Strongly Favors topic 2
Re-introduce the Equal Rights Amendment: Strongly Favors topic 2
Reinforce anti-discrimination and equal-pay requirements: Favors topic 2
Ban discriminatory compensation; allow 2 years to sue: Favors topic 2
Sponsored bill enforcing against gender pay discrimination: Strongly Favors topic 2
Strongly Favors topic 3:
Comfortable with same-sex marriage
(+5 points on Social scale) Increase America’s commitment against Global AIDS: Favors topic 3
DOMA discrimination holds us back from a more perfect union: Strongly Favors topic 3
I support gay marriage personally and as law: Strongly Favors topic 3
Let states decide gay marriage; they’re ahead of feds: Favors topic 3
2004:defended traditional marriage; 2006:voted for same-sex: Strongly Favors topic 3
Federal Marriage Amendment would be terrible step backwards: Favors topic 3
Gays deserve domestic partnership benefits: Strongly Favors topic 3
Military service based on conduct, not sexual orientation: Favors topic 3
More funding and stricter sentencing for hate crimes: Strongly Favors topic 3
Rated 89% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance: Strongly Favors topic 3
Provide benefits to domestic partners of Federal employees: Strongly Favors topic 3
YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes: Strongly Favors topic 3
NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage: Strongly Favors topic 3
No opinion on topic 4:
Keep God in the public sphere
(0 points on Social scale) Partner with faith based community in empowerment zones: Strongly Favors topic 4
Tap into churches to avoid more Louima & Diallo cases: Favors topic 4
Community involvement helps, but only in short term: Favors topic 4
Link payments to good parenting behavior: Opposes topic 4
Allow student prayer, but no religious instruction: Opposes topic 4
Character education: teach empathy & self-discipline: Favors topic 4
Change what kids see in the media: Favors topic 4
Co-sponsored bill to criminalize flag-burning: Favors topic 4
Rated 0% by the Christian Coalition: an anti-Family-Value voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 4
Rated 100% by the AU, indicating support of church-state separation: Strongly Opposes topic 4
NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration: Opposes topic 4
Strongly Favors topic 5:
Expand ObamaCare
(-5 points on Economic scale) Outcry if AIDS were leading disease of young whites: Favors topic 5
Lower costs and improve quality and cover everybody: Strongly Favors topic 5
Supply more medical needs of families, & insure all children: Strongly Favors topic 5
Medicare should be strengthened today: Favors topic 5
Smaller steps to progress on health care: Favors topic 5
Guaranteed benefits & focus on prevention: Neutral on topic 5
2006: If I can't do universal coverage, why run?: Strongly Favors topic 5
Universal health care will not work if it is voluntary: Strongly Favors topic 5
Universal health care coverage by the end of my second term: Strongly Favors topic 5
We need a uniquely American solution to health care: Favors topic 5
Health care initiatives are her first priority in Senate: Strongly Favors topic 5
Establish "report cards" on HMO quality of care: Favors topic 5
Invest funds to alleviate the nursing shortage: Favors topic 5
Let states make bulk Rx purchases, and other innovations: Opposes topic 5
Rated 100% by APHA, indicating a pro-public health record: Strongly Favors topic 5
Preserve access to Medicaid & SCHIP during economic downturn: Strongly Favors topic 5
NO on means-testing to determine Medicare Part D premium: Favors topic 5
NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit: Favors topic 5
NO on $40 billion per year for limited Medicare prescription drug benefit: Opposes topic 5
YES on increasing Medicaid rebate for producing generics: Favors topic 5
YES on negotiating bulk purchases for Medicare prescription drug: Strongly Favors topic 5
YES on expanding enrollment period for Medicare Part D: Favors topic 5
NO on limiting medical liability lawsuits to $250,000: Opposes topic 5
YES on requiring negotiated Rx prices for Medicare part D: Favors topic 5
YES on overriding veto on expansion of Medicare: Favors topic 5
Strongly Opposes topic 6:
Privatize Social Security
(-5 points on Economic scale) 1997: Hillary warned against privatizing Social Security: Strongly Opposes topic 6
Soc.Sec. one of greatest inventions in American democracy: Strongly Opposes topic 6
Social Security protects families, not just retirees: Strongly Opposes topic 6
All should join the debate now to preserve future solvency: Opposes topic 6
Create Retirement Savings Accounts: Favors topic 6
Rated 100% by the ARA, indicating a pro-senior voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 6
NO on establishing reserve funds & pre-funding for Social Security: Opposes topic 6
Strongly Opposes topic 7:
Vouchers for school choice
(-5 points on Economic scale) OpEd: Common Core recycled from Clintons in 1980s and 1990s: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Fully fund special education & 21st century classrooms: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Supports public school choice; but not private nor parochial: Opposes topic 7
Vouchers drain money from public schools: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Fight with Gore for public schools; no voucher “gimmicks”: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Charter schools provide choice within public system: Opposes topic 7
Vouchers siphon off much-needed resources: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Parents can choose, but support public schools: Opposes topic 7
Supports public school choice and charter schools: Favors topic 7
Solemn vow never to abandon our public schools: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Offer every parent Charter Schools and public school choice: Opposes topic 7
Rated 82% by the NEA, indicating pro-public education votes: Strongly Opposes topic 7
YES on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors: Opposes topic 7
YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors: Opposes topic 7
YES on $5B for grants to local educational agencies: Opposes topic 7
Strongly Opposes topic 8:
Clean air and water are property rights
(-5 points on Social scale) $5B for green-collar jobs in economic stimulus package: Opposes topic 8
Voted against and consistently opposed to Yucca Mountain: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Scored 100% on Humane Society Scorecard on animal protection: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Remove PCBs from Hudson River by dredging 200 miles: Opposes topic 8
Rated 89% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes: Strongly Opposes topic 8
EPA must do better on mercury clean-up: Opposes topic 8
Grants for beach water pollution under Clean Water Act: Opposes topic 8
Strengthen prohibitions against animal fighting: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Opposes topic 9:
Stricter punishment reduces crime
(+2 points on Social scale) Longtime advocate of death penalty, with restrictions: Strongly Favors topic 9
Address the unacceptable increase in incarceration: Opposes topic 9
Mandatory sentences have been too widely used: Strongly Opposes topic 9
Give kids after-school activities to prevent gangs: Opposes topic 9
Spend more time with kids to prevent violence: Opposes topic 9
Supports citizen patrols & 3-Strikes-You’re-Out: Favors topic 9
Supports “Three Strikes” and more prison: Strongly Favors topic 9
End hate crimes and other intolerance: Favors topic 9
Require DNA testing for all federal executions: Opposes topic 9
Increase funding for "COPS ON THE BEAT" program: Opposes topic 9
Reduce recidivism by giving offenders a Second Chance: Strongly Opposes topic 9
YES on reinstating $1.15 billion funding for the COPS Program: Opposes topic 9
Strongly Opposes topic 10:
Absolute right to gun ownership
(-5 points on Economic scale) Rein in idea that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Against illegal guns, crack down on illegal gun dealers: Opposes topic 10
Get assault weapons & guns off the street: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Background check system could prevent Virginia Tech massacre: Opposes topic 10
Congress’ failure at Littleton response inspired Senate run: Opposes topic 10
Limit access to weapons; look for early warning signs: Opposes topic 10
License and register all handgun sales: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Gun control protects our children: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Don’t water down sensible gun control legislation: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Lock up guns; store ammo separately: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Get weapons off the streets; zero tolerance for weapons: Opposes topic 10
Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology: Opposes topic 10
NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence: Strongly Opposes topic 10
NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Strongly Favors topic 11:
Higher taxes on the wealthy
(-5 points on Economic scale) Rescind tax cuts for those making more than $250,000 a year: Strongly Favors topic 11
Pay down debt & cut taxes within balanced budget: Favors topic 11
GOP tax plan would hurt New York’s students: Favors topic 11
Rated 21% by NTU, indicating a "Big Spender" on tax votes: Strongly Favors topic 11
Rated 80% by the CTJ, indicating support of progressive taxation: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on raising the Death Tax exemption to $5M from $1M: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on allowing AMT reduction without budget offset: Favors topic 11
YES on reducing marriage penalty instead of cutting top tax rates: Favors topic 11
YES on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction: Favors topic 11
NO on $350 billion in tax breaks over 11 years: Strongly Favors topic 11
YES on extending the tax cuts on capital gains and dividends: Strongly Opposes topic 11
YES on $47B for military by repealing capital gains tax cut: Favors topic 11
YES on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends: Strongly Opposes topic 11
NO on permanently repealing the `death tax`: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on supporting permanence of estate tax cuts: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on raising estate tax exemption to $5 million: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax: Strongly Favors topic 11
Favors topic 12:
Pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens
(+2 points on Social scale) Introduce a path to earn citizenship in the first 100 days: Strongly Favors topic 12
Consider halting certain raids on illegal immigrant families: Favors topic 12
Deporting all illegal immigrants is unrealistic: Strongly Favors topic 12
Illegal immigrants with driver’s licenses puts them at risk: Opposes topic 12
Oppose granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants: Opposes topic 12
More border patrolling on both Mexican AND Canadian borders: Opposes topic 12
Anti-immigrant bill would have criminalized Jesus Christ: Strongly Favors topic 12
Sanctuary cities ok; local police can’t enforce immigration: Favors topic 12
Comprehensive reform to get 12 million out of shadows: Strongly Favors topic 12
Sponsored bill covering child resident aliens under Medicaid: Favors topic 12
Sponsored bill funding social services for noncitizens: Favors topic 12
Rated 8% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities": Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on establishing a Guest Worker program: Favors topic 12
YES on building a fence along the Mexican border: Strongly Opposes topic 12
YES on eliminating the "Y" nonimmigrant guestworker program: Neutral topic 12
NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on comprehensive immigration reform: Strongly Favors topic 12
Opposes topic 13:
Support & expand free trade
(-3 points on Economic scale) Smart, pro-American trade: NAFTA has hurt workers: Strongly Opposes topic 13
No fast-track authority for this president: Opposes topic 13
Defended outsourcing of US jobs to India: Favors topic 13
1980s: Loved Wal-Mart's "Buy America" program: Opposes topic 13
Globalization should not substitute for humanization: Opposes topic 13
Supports MFN for China, despite concerns over human rights: Strongly Favors topic 13
Build a rule-based global trading system: Favors topic 13
Rated 17% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on removing common goods from national security export rules: Favors topic 13
YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam: Favors topic 13
NO on extending free trade to Andean nations: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on establishing free trade between US & Singapore: Favors topic 13
YES on establishing free trade between the US and Chile: Favors topic 13
NO on implementing CAFTA for Central America free-trade: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on free trade agreement with Oman: Strongly Favors topic 13
Opposes topic 14:
Maintain US sovereignty from UN
(-3 points on Economic scale) US support & no-fly zone, but UN troops on ground in Darfur: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Support UN reform because US benefits: Opposes topic 14
2002 Iraq speech criticized both Saddam and U.N.: Opposes topic 14
Urged President to veto UN condemnation of Israel: Favors topic 14
Engage in world affairs, including human rights: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Keep Cuban embargo; pay UN bills: Opposes topic 14
2002: Attacking Iraq "not a good option" but authorized it: Favors topic 14
Voted against Levin Amendment: it gave UN veto over US: Favors topic 14
Dems believe in fighting terror with cooperation: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Restore habeas corpus for detainees in the War on Terror: Opposes topic 14
YES on preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees: Strongly Opposes topic 14
YES on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods: Strongly Opposes topic 14
NO on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad: Strongly Opposes topic 14
No opinion on topic 15:
Expand the military
(0 points on Social scale) There is no safe haven for the terrorists: Favors topic 15
Our troops are stretched; so increase size of military: Favors topic 15
Rated 100% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 15
Extend reserve retirement pay parity back to 9/11: Favors topic 15
Improve mental health care benefits for returning veterans: Favors topic 15
YES on requiring on-budget funding for Iraq, not emergency funding: Opposes topic 15
YES on limiting soldiers' deployment to 12 months: Opposes topic 15
Strongly Favors topic 16:
Stricter limits on voting rights
(-5 points on Social scale) Voter suppression revives old demons of discrimination: Favors topic 16
Stand for public financing and getting money out of politics: Strongly Favors topic 16
Presidents should reveal donations to their foundations: Strongly Favors topic 16
Move to public election financing, not banning lobbyists: Strongly Favors topic 16
Verified paper ballot for every electronic voting machines: Favors topic 16
Called for ban on all soft money in 2000 campaign: Favors topic 16
Prohibit 'voter caging' which intimidates minority voting: Favors topic 16
YES on banning campaign donations from unions & corporations: Favors topic 16
YES on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads: Favors topic 16
NO on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity: Opposes topic 16
NO on allowing some lobbyist gifts to Congress: Strongly Favors topic 16
Favors topic 17:
Stay out of Iran
(+2 points on Social scale) Smartest strategic choice is peace: Favors topic 17
Extend peace treaties to Palestinians, Syrians & Lebanese: Favors topic 17
Foreign aid spending is only 1%; lead by remaining engaged: Strongly Favors topic 17
Up to the Iraqis to decide the future they will have: Favors topic 17
Demand Bush to explain to Congress on his plan on Iraq: Favors topic 17
Deauthorize Iraq war, and don’t grant new war authority: Strongly Favors topic 17
Phased redeployment out of Iraq, beginning immediately: Strongly Favors topic 17
Withdraw troops within 60 days after taking office: Strongly Favors topic 17
Voted for Iraq war based on available info; now would not: Favors topic 17
Progressive Internationalism: globalize with US pre-eminence: Favors topic 17
No troop surge: no military escalation in Iraq: Strongly Favors topic 17
Require Congress' approval before military action in Iran: Favors topic 17
YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq: Strongly Opposes topic 17
NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007: Strongly Opposes topic 17
YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq by March 2008: Strongly Favors topic 17
Strongly Favors topic 18:
Prioritize green energy
(-5 points on Economic scale) $100B per year by 2020 for climate change mitigation: Strongly Favors topic 18
Remove energy dependence on countries who would harm us: Strongly Favors topic 18
Stands for clean air and funding the EPA: Favors topic 18
Reduce air pollution to improve children’s health: Favors topic 18
Ratify Kyoto; more mass transit: Strongly Favors topic 18
Supports tradable emissions permits for greenhouse gases: Favors topic 18
Keep efficient air conditioner rule to conserve energy: Strongly Favors topic 18
Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances: Strongly Favors topic 18
Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence: Favors topic 18
Designate sensitive ANWR area as protected wilderness: Favors topic 18
Set goal of 25% renewable energy by 2025: Strongly Favors topic 18
Let states define stricter-than-federal emission standards: Strongly Favors topic 18
Gas tax holiday for the summer: Opposes topic 18
NO on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill: Favors topic 18
YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%): Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge: Favors topic 18
YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning: Favors topic 18
YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies: Strongly Favors topic 18
Opposes topic 19:
Never legalize marijuana
(+2 points on Social scale) Medical marijuana maybe ok; states decide recreational use: Opposes topic 19
Divert non-violent drug offenders away from prison: Strongly Opposes topic 19
Address drug problem with treatment and special drug courts: Strongly Opposes topic 19
End harsher sentencing for crack vs. powder cocaine: Opposes topic 19
Require chemical resellers to certify against meth use: Favors topic 19
Strongly Favors topic 20:
Stimulus better than market-led recovery
(-5 points on Economic scale) Wealthy should go back to paying pre-Bush tax rates: Favors topic 20
Want to restore the tax rates we had in the ‘90s: Favors topic 20
Help people facing foreclosure; don’t just bail-out banks: Strongly Favors topic 20
Minimum wage increases haven’t kept up with Congress’ wages: Strongly Favors topic 20
Co-sponsored bills totaling $502B in spending thru 2005: Strongly Favors topic 20
End Bush tax cuts;take things away from rich for common good: Favors topic 20
Social issues matter; wrong time for tax cuts: Strongly Favors topic 20
Use tax dollars to upgrade infrastructure, not for stadium: Strongly Favors topic 20
America can afford to raise the minimum wage: Strongly Favors topic 20
Just Say No to GOP tax plan: Strongly Favors topic 20
YES on increasing tax rate for people earning over $1 million: Strongly Favors topic 20

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
57. Not the only issues, but key, and good indicators.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 08:55 AM
Oct 2014

Your list of Clinton's rhetoric not convincing, just like the rhetoric.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
58. Obviously from my previous post....that is BULLSHIT!
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 08:56 AM
Oct 2014

that is not rhetoric....its voting patterns etc.....
and I have the link to prove it...

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm



 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
70. She has a strong voting record on women's rights. Rhetoric on other progressive issues....
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 09:26 AM
Oct 2014

... and heavy baggage on war, TPP, Keystone XL, Wall Street.

She's about as progressive as Richard Nixon.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
84. I'm sorry...YOU don't get to weigh the issues for the Party now do you?
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:16 PM
Oct 2014

Oh really? Would Richard Nixon's look like this?

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
122. Pretty creepy how you capitalize "Party"
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 12:04 AM
Oct 2014

And you can quit waving that stupid chart around. It's about as accurate as a horoscope and gathered with about the same quality of data.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
76. "Pet peeves". Wow.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 10:51 AM
Oct 2014

That's the kind of thoughtless disregard people have come to expect from Third Way types. Incredible.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
86. YOU keep telling yourself that there is ONLY one issue to consider.....
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:17 PM
Oct 2014

I for one consider them all...

Strongly Favors topic 1:
Abortion is a woman's unrestricted right
(+5 points on Social scale) Lift ban on stem cell research to cure devastating diseases: Favors topic 1
Respect Roe v. Wade, but make adoptions easier too: Favors topic 1
Alternatives to pro-choice like forced pregnancy in Romania: Strongly Favors topic 1
Must safeguard constitutional rights, including choice: Favors topic 1
Remain vigilant on a woman’s right to chose: Favors topic 1
Keep abortion safe, legal and rare: Favors topic 1
Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion: Favors topic 1
Supports parental notice & family planning: Opposes topic 1
No abortion for sex selection in China: Opposes topic 1
Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus: Favors topic 1
Endorsed Recommended by EMILY's List of pro-choice women: Favors topic 1
Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record: Strongly Favors topic 1
Expand embryonic stem cell research: Favors topic 1
Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women: Favors topic 1
Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims: Favors topic 1
Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance: Strongly Favors topic 1
Provide emergency contraception at military facilities: Favors topic 1
Ensure access to and funding for contraception: Favors topic 1
Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception: Favors topic 1
NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion: Strongly Favors topic 1
NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP: Favors topic 1
NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life: Strongly Favors topic 1
NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime: Favors topic 1
YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives: Favors topic 1
NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions: Favors topic 1
YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines: Favors topic 1
Strongly Favors topic 2:
Legally require hiring women & minorities
(-5 points on Economic scale) Some world leaders are still misogynistic: Favors topic 2
We’ve come a long way on race, but we have a long way to go: Strongly Favors topic 2
Apologize for slavery, but concentrate on civil rights now: Favors topic 2
Human rights are women’s rights: Neutral on topic 2
Women’s rights are human rights: Favors topic 2
OpEd: "18 million cracks" meant "lingering sexism": Strongly Favors topic 2
Equal pay is not yet equal: Strongly Favors topic 2
1988: Instituted gender diversity Report Card within ABA: Strongly Opposes topic 2
Argued with Bill Clinton about diluting affirmative action: Strongly Favors topic 2
Shift from group preferences to economic empowerment of all: Neutral on topic 2
Sponsored bill maintaining role of women in armed forces: Favors topic 2
Rated 96% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance: Strongly Favors topic 2
Recognize Juneteenth as historical end of slavery: Strongly Favors topic 2
Re-introduce the Equal Rights Amendment: Strongly Favors topic 2
Reinforce anti-discrimination and equal-pay requirements: Favors topic 2
Ban discriminatory compensation; allow 2 years to sue: Favors topic 2
Sponsored bill enforcing against gender pay discrimination: Strongly Favors topic 2
Strongly Favors topic 3:
Comfortable with same-sex marriage
(+5 points on Social scale) Increase America’s commitment against Global AIDS: Favors topic 3
DOMA discrimination holds us back from a more perfect union: Strongly Favors topic 3
I support gay marriage personally and as law: Strongly Favors topic 3
Let states decide gay marriage; they’re ahead of feds: Favors topic 3
2004:defended traditional marriage; 2006:voted for same-sex: Strongly Favors topic 3
Federal Marriage Amendment would be terrible step backwards: Favors topic 3
Gays deserve domestic partnership benefits: Strongly Favors topic 3
Military service based on conduct, not sexual orientation: Favors topic 3
More funding and stricter sentencing for hate crimes: Strongly Favors topic 3
Rated 89% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance: Strongly Favors topic 3
Provide benefits to domestic partners of Federal employees: Strongly Favors topic 3
YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes: Strongly Favors topic 3
NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage: Strongly Favors topic 3
No opinion on topic 4:
Keep God in the public sphere
(0 points on Social scale) Partner with faith based community in empowerment zones: Strongly Favors topic 4
Tap into churches to avoid more Louima & Diallo cases: Favors topic 4
Community involvement helps, but only in short term: Favors topic 4
Link payments to good parenting behavior: Opposes topic 4
Allow student prayer, but no religious instruction: Opposes topic 4
Character education: teach empathy & self-discipline: Favors topic 4
Change what kids see in the media: Favors topic 4
Co-sponsored bill to criminalize flag-burning: Favors topic 4
Rated 0% by the Christian Coalition: an anti-Family-Value voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 4
Rated 100% by the AU, indicating support of church-state separation: Strongly Opposes topic 4
NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration: Opposes topic 4
Strongly Favors topic 5:
Expand ObamaCare
(-5 points on Economic scale) Outcry if AIDS were leading disease of young whites: Favors topic 5
Lower costs and improve quality and cover everybody: Strongly Favors topic 5
Supply more medical needs of families, & insure all children: Strongly Favors topic 5
Medicare should be strengthened today: Favors topic 5
Smaller steps to progress on health care: Favors topic 5
Guaranteed benefits & focus on prevention: Neutral on topic 5
2006: If I can't do universal coverage, why run?: Strongly Favors topic 5
Universal health care will not work if it is voluntary: Strongly Favors topic 5
Universal health care coverage by the end of my second term: Strongly Favors topic 5
We need a uniquely American solution to health care: Favors topic 5
Health care initiatives are her first priority in Senate: Strongly Favors topic 5
Establish "report cards" on HMO quality of care: Favors topic 5
Invest funds to alleviate the nursing shortage: Favors topic 5
Let states make bulk Rx purchases, and other innovations: Opposes topic 5
Rated 100% by APHA, indicating a pro-public health record: Strongly Favors topic 5
Preserve access to Medicaid & SCHIP during economic downturn: Strongly Favors topic 5
NO on means-testing to determine Medicare Part D premium: Favors topic 5
NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit: Favors topic 5
NO on $40 billion per year for limited Medicare prescription drug benefit: Opposes topic 5
YES on increasing Medicaid rebate for producing generics: Favors topic 5
YES on negotiating bulk purchases for Medicare prescription drug: Strongly Favors topic 5
YES on expanding enrollment period for Medicare Part D: Favors topic 5
NO on limiting medical liability lawsuits to $250,000: Opposes topic 5
YES on requiring negotiated Rx prices for Medicare part D: Favors topic 5
YES on overriding veto on expansion of Medicare: Favors topic 5
Strongly Opposes topic 6:
Privatize Social Security
(-5 points on Economic scale) 1997: Hillary warned against privatizing Social Security: Strongly Opposes topic 6
Soc.Sec. one of greatest inventions in American democracy: Strongly Opposes topic 6
Social Security protects families, not just retirees: Strongly Opposes topic 6
All should join the debate now to preserve future solvency: Opposes topic 6
Create Retirement Savings Accounts: Favors topic 6
Rated 100% by the ARA, indicating a pro-senior voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 6
NO on establishing reserve funds & pre-funding for Social Security: Opposes topic 6
Strongly Opposes topic 7:
Vouchers for school choice
(-5 points on Economic scale) OpEd: Common Core recycled from Clintons in 1980s and 1990s: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Fully fund special education & 21st century classrooms: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Supports public school choice; but not private nor parochial: Opposes topic 7
Vouchers drain money from public schools: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Fight with Gore for public schools; no voucher “gimmicks”: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Charter schools provide choice within public system: Opposes topic 7
Vouchers siphon off much-needed resources: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Parents can choose, but support public schools: Opposes topic 7
Supports public school choice and charter schools: Favors topic 7
Solemn vow never to abandon our public schools: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Offer every parent Charter Schools and public school choice: Opposes topic 7
Rated 82% by the NEA, indicating pro-public education votes: Strongly Opposes topic 7
YES on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors: Opposes topic 7
YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors: Opposes topic 7
YES on $5B for grants to local educational agencies: Opposes topic 7
Strongly Opposes topic 8:
Clean air and water are property rights
(-5 points on Social scale) $5B for green-collar jobs in economic stimulus package: Opposes topic 8
Voted against and consistently opposed to Yucca Mountain: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Scored 100% on Humane Society Scorecard on animal protection: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Remove PCBs from Hudson River by dredging 200 miles: Opposes topic 8
Rated 89% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes: Strongly Opposes topic 8
EPA must do better on mercury clean-up: Opposes topic 8
Grants for beach water pollution under Clean Water Act: Opposes topic 8
Strengthen prohibitions against animal fighting: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Opposes topic 9:
Stricter punishment reduces crime
(+2 points on Social scale) Longtime advocate of death penalty, with restrictions: Strongly Favors topic 9
Address the unacceptable increase in incarceration: Opposes topic 9
Mandatory sentences have been too widely used: Strongly Opposes topic 9
Give kids after-school activities to prevent gangs: Opposes topic 9
Spend more time with kids to prevent violence: Opposes topic 9
Supports citizen patrols & 3-Strikes-You’re-Out: Favors topic 9
Supports “Three Strikes” and more prison: Strongly Favors topic 9
End hate crimes and other intolerance: Favors topic 9
Require DNA testing for all federal executions: Opposes topic 9
Increase funding for "COPS ON THE BEAT" program: Opposes topic 9
Reduce recidivism by giving offenders a Second Chance: Strongly Opposes topic 9
YES on reinstating $1.15 billion funding for the COPS Program: Opposes topic 9
Strongly Opposes topic 10:
Absolute right to gun ownership
(-5 points on Economic scale) Rein in idea that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Against illegal guns, crack down on illegal gun dealers: Opposes topic 10
Get assault weapons & guns off the street: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Background check system could prevent Virginia Tech massacre: Opposes topic 10
Congress’ failure at Littleton response inspired Senate run: Opposes topic 10
Limit access to weapons; look for early warning signs: Opposes topic 10
License and register all handgun sales: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Gun control protects our children: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Don’t water down sensible gun control legislation: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Lock up guns; store ammo separately: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Get weapons off the streets; zero tolerance for weapons: Opposes topic 10
Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology: Opposes topic 10
NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence: Strongly Opposes topic 10
NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Strongly Favors topic 11:
Higher taxes on the wealthy
(-5 points on Economic scale) Rescind tax cuts for those making more than $250,000 a year: Strongly Favors topic 11
Pay down debt & cut taxes within balanced budget: Favors topic 11
GOP tax plan would hurt New York’s students: Favors topic 11
Rated 21% by NTU, indicating a "Big Spender" on tax votes: Strongly Favors topic 11
Rated 80% by the CTJ, indicating support of progressive taxation: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on raising the Death Tax exemption to $5M from $1M: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on allowing AMT reduction without budget offset: Favors topic 11
YES on reducing marriage penalty instead of cutting top tax rates: Favors topic 11
YES on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction: Favors topic 11
NO on $350 billion in tax breaks over 11 years: Strongly Favors topic 11
YES on extending the tax cuts on capital gains and dividends: Strongly Opposes topic 11
YES on $47B for military by repealing capital gains tax cut: Favors topic 11
YES on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends: Strongly Opposes topic 11
NO on permanently repealing the `death tax`: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on supporting permanence of estate tax cuts: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on raising estate tax exemption to $5 million: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax: Strongly Favors topic 11
Favors topic 12:
Pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens
(+2 points on Social scale) Introduce a path to earn citizenship in the first 100 days: Strongly Favors topic 12
Consider halting certain raids on illegal immigrant families: Favors topic 12
Deporting all illegal immigrants is unrealistic: Strongly Favors topic 12
Illegal immigrants with driver’s licenses puts them at risk: Opposes topic 12
Oppose granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants: Opposes topic 12
More border patrolling on both Mexican AND Canadian borders: Opposes topic 12
Anti-immigrant bill would have criminalized Jesus Christ: Strongly Favors topic 12
Sanctuary cities ok; local police can’t enforce immigration: Favors topic 12
Comprehensive reform to get 12 million out of shadows: Strongly Favors topic 12
Sponsored bill covering child resident aliens under Medicaid: Favors topic 12
Sponsored bill funding social services for noncitizens: Favors topic 12
Rated 8% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities": Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on establishing a Guest Worker program: Favors topic 12
YES on building a fence along the Mexican border: Strongly Opposes topic 12
YES on eliminating the "Y" nonimmigrant guestworker program: Neutral topic 12
NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on comprehensive immigration reform: Strongly Favors topic 12
Opposes topic 13:
Support & expand free trade
(-3 points on Economic scale) Smart, pro-American trade: NAFTA has hurt workers: Strongly Opposes topic 13
No fast-track authority for this president: Opposes topic 13
Defended outsourcing of US jobs to India: Favors topic 13
1980s: Loved Wal-Mart's "Buy America" program: Opposes topic 13
Globalization should not substitute for humanization: Opposes topic 13
Supports MFN for China, despite concerns over human rights: Strongly Favors topic 13
Build a rule-based global trading system: Favors topic 13
Rated 17% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on removing common goods from national security export rules: Favors topic 13
YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam: Favors topic 13
NO on extending free trade to Andean nations: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on establishing free trade between US & Singapore: Favors topic 13
YES on establishing free trade between the US and Chile: Favors topic 13
NO on implementing CAFTA for Central America free-trade: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on free trade agreement with Oman: Strongly Favors topic 13
Opposes topic 14:
Maintain US sovereignty from UN
(-3 points on Economic scale) US support & no-fly zone, but UN troops on ground in Darfur: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Support UN reform because US benefits: Opposes topic 14
2002 Iraq speech criticized both Saddam and U.N.: Opposes topic 14
Urged President to veto UN condemnation of Israel: Favors topic 14
Engage in world affairs, including human rights: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Keep Cuban embargo; pay UN bills: Opposes topic 14
2002: Attacking Iraq "not a good option" but authorized it: Favors topic 14
Voted against Levin Amendment: it gave UN veto over US: Favors topic 14
Dems believe in fighting terror with cooperation: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Restore habeas corpus for detainees in the War on Terror: Opposes topic 14
YES on preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees: Strongly Opposes topic 14
YES on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods: Strongly Opposes topic 14
NO on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad: Strongly Opposes topic 14
No opinion on topic 15:
Expand the military
(0 points on Social scale) There is no safe haven for the terrorists: Favors topic 15
Our troops are stretched; so increase size of military: Favors topic 15
Rated 100% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 15
Extend reserve retirement pay parity back to 9/11: Favors topic 15
Improve mental health care benefits for returning veterans: Favors topic 15
YES on requiring on-budget funding for Iraq, not emergency funding: Opposes topic 15
YES on limiting soldiers' deployment to 12 months: Opposes topic 15
Strongly Favors topic 16:
Stricter limits on voting rights
(-5 points on Social scale) Voter suppression revives old demons of discrimination: Favors topic 16
Stand for public financing and getting money out of politics: Strongly Favors topic 16
Presidents should reveal donations to their foundations: Strongly Favors topic 16
Move to public election financing, not banning lobbyists: Strongly Favors topic 16
Verified paper ballot for every electronic voting machines: Favors topic 16
Called for ban on all soft money in 2000 campaign: Favors topic 16
Prohibit 'voter caging' which intimidates minority voting: Favors topic 16
YES on banning campaign donations from unions & corporations: Favors topic 16
YES on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads: Favors topic 16
NO on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity: Opposes topic 16
NO on allowing some lobbyist gifts to Congress: Strongly Favors topic 16
Favors topic 17:
Stay out of Iran
(+2 points on Social scale) Smartest strategic choice is peace: Favors topic 17
Extend peace treaties to Palestinians, Syrians & Lebanese: Favors topic 17
Foreign aid spending is only 1%; lead by remaining engaged: Strongly Favors topic 17
Up to the Iraqis to decide the future they will have: Favors topic 17
Demand Bush to explain to Congress on his plan on Iraq: Favors topic 17
Deauthorize Iraq war, and don’t grant new war authority: Strongly Favors topic 17
Phased redeployment out of Iraq, beginning immediately: Strongly Favors topic 17
Withdraw troops within 60 days after taking office: Strongly Favors topic 17
Voted for Iraq war based on available info; now would not: Favors topic 17
Progressive Internationalism: globalize with US pre-eminence: Favors topic 17
No troop surge: no military escalation in Iraq: Strongly Favors topic 17
Require Congress' approval before military action in Iran: Favors topic 17
YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq: Strongly Opposes topic 17
NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007: Strongly Opposes topic 17
YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq by March 2008: Strongly Favors topic 17
Strongly Favors topic 18:
Prioritize green energy
(-5 points on Economic scale) $100B per year by 2020 for climate change mitigation: Strongly Favors topic 18
Remove energy dependence on countries who would harm us: Strongly Favors topic 18
Stands for clean air and funding the EPA: Favors topic 18
Reduce air pollution to improve children’s health: Favors topic 18
Ratify Kyoto; more mass transit: Strongly Favors topic 18
Supports tradable emissions permits for greenhouse gases: Favors topic 18
Keep efficient air conditioner rule to conserve energy: Strongly Favors topic 18
Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances: Strongly Favors topic 18
Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence: Favors topic 18
Designate sensitive ANWR area as protected wilderness: Favors topic 18
Set goal of 25% renewable energy by 2025: Strongly Favors topic 18
Let states define stricter-than-federal emission standards: Strongly Favors topic 18
Gas tax holiday for the summer: Opposes topic 18
NO on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill: Favors topic 18
YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%): Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge: Favors topic 18
YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning: Favors topic 18
YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies: Strongly Favors topic 18
Opposes topic 19:
Never legalize marijuana
(+2 points on Social scale) Medical marijuana maybe ok; states decide recreational use: Opposes topic 19
Divert non-violent drug offenders away from prison: Strongly Opposes topic 19
Address drug problem with treatment and special drug courts: Strongly Opposes topic 19
End harsher sentencing for crack vs. powder cocaine: Opposes topic 19
Require chemical resellers to certify against meth use: Favors topic 19
Strongly Favors topic 20:
Stimulus better than market-led recovery
(-5 points on Economic scale) Wealthy should go back to paying pre-Bush tax rates: Favors topic 20
Want to restore the tax rates we had in the ‘90s: Favors topic 20
Help people facing foreclosure; don’t just bail-out banks: Strongly Favors topic 20
Minimum wage increases haven’t kept up with Congress’ wages: Strongly Favors topic 20
Co-sponsored bills totaling $502B in spending thru 2005: Strongly Favors topic 20
End Bush tax cuts;take things away from rich for common good: Favors topic 20
Social issues matter; wrong time for tax cuts: Strongly Favors topic 20
Use tax dollars to upgrade infrastructure, not for stadium: Strongly Favors topic 20
America can afford to raise the minimum wage: Strongly Favors topic 20
Just Say No to GOP tax plan: Strongly Favors topic 20
YES on increasing tax rate for people earning over $1 million: Strongly Favors topic 20

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
109. Sorry, but I think you gave away your credibility when you described war, economic injustice,
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 03:27 PM
Oct 2014

environmental destruction, and Wall Street lawlessness as "pet peeves".

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
110. I described HIS pet issues....I didn't define those....and I will thank you NOT to put your words
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 03:29 PM
Oct 2014

in my mouth...Here are MY pet issues....

Strongly Favors topic 1:
Abortion is a woman's unrestricted right
(+5 points on Social scale) Lift ban on stem cell research to cure devastating diseases: Favors topic 1
Respect Roe v. Wade, but make adoptions easier too: Favors topic 1
Alternatives to pro-choice like forced pregnancy in Romania: Strongly Favors topic 1
Must safeguard constitutional rights, including choice: Favors topic 1
Remain vigilant on a woman’s right to chose: Favors topic 1
Keep abortion safe, legal and rare: Favors topic 1
Being pro-choice is not being pro-abortion: Favors topic 1
Supports parental notice & family planning: Opposes topic 1
No abortion for sex selection in China: Opposes topic 1
Voted liberal line on partial birth & harm to fetus: Favors topic 1
Endorsed Recommended by EMILY's List of pro-choice women: Favors topic 1
Rated 100% by NARAL, indicating a pro-choice voting record: Strongly Favors topic 1
Expand embryonic stem cell research: Favors topic 1
Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women: Favors topic 1
Sponsored bill for emergency contraception for rape victims: Favors topic 1
Rated 0% by the NRLC, indicating a pro-choice stance: Strongly Favors topic 1
Provide emergency contraception at military facilities: Favors topic 1
Ensure access to and funding for contraception: Favors topic 1
Focus on preventing pregnancy, plus emergency contraception: Favors topic 1
NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion: Strongly Favors topic 1
NO on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP: Favors topic 1
NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life: Strongly Favors topic 1
NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime: Favors topic 1
YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives: Favors topic 1
NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions: Favors topic 1
YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines: Favors topic 1
Strongly Favors topic 2:
Legally require hiring women & minorities
(-5 points on Economic scale) Some world leaders are still misogynistic: Favors topic 2
We’ve come a long way on race, but we have a long way to go: Strongly Favors topic 2
Apologize for slavery, but concentrate on civil rights now: Favors topic 2
Human rights are women’s rights: Neutral on topic 2
Women’s rights are human rights: Favors topic 2
OpEd: "18 million cracks" meant "lingering sexism": Strongly Favors topic 2
Equal pay is not yet equal: Strongly Favors topic 2
1988: Instituted gender diversity Report Card within ABA: Strongly Opposes topic 2
Argued with Bill Clinton about diluting affirmative action: Strongly Favors topic 2
Shift from group preferences to economic empowerment of all: Neutral on topic 2
Sponsored bill maintaining role of women in armed forces: Favors topic 2
Rated 96% by the NAACP, indicating a pro-affirmative-action stance: Strongly Favors topic 2
Recognize Juneteenth as historical end of slavery: Strongly Favors topic 2
Re-introduce the Equal Rights Amendment: Strongly Favors topic 2
Reinforce anti-discrimination and equal-pay requirements: Favors topic 2
Ban discriminatory compensation; allow 2 years to sue: Favors topic 2
Sponsored bill enforcing against gender pay discrimination: Strongly Favors topic 2
Strongly Favors topic 3:
Comfortable with same-sex marriage
(+5 points on Social scale) Increase America’s commitment against Global AIDS: Favors topic 3
DOMA discrimination holds us back from a more perfect union: Strongly Favors topic 3
I support gay marriage personally and as law: Strongly Favors topic 3
Let states decide gay marriage; they’re ahead of feds: Favors topic 3
2004:defended traditional marriage; 2006:voted for same-sex: Strongly Favors topic 3
Federal Marriage Amendment would be terrible step backwards: Favors topic 3
Gays deserve domestic partnership benefits: Strongly Favors topic 3
Military service based on conduct, not sexual orientation: Favors topic 3
More funding and stricter sentencing for hate crimes: Strongly Favors topic 3
Rated 89% by the HRC, indicating a pro-gay-rights stance: Strongly Favors topic 3
Provide benefits to domestic partners of Federal employees: Strongly Favors topic 3
YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes: Strongly Favors topic 3
NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage: Strongly Favors topic 3
No opinion on topic 4:
Keep God in the public sphere
(0 points on Social scale) Partner with faith based community in empowerment zones: Strongly Favors topic 4
Tap into churches to avoid more Louima & Diallo cases: Favors topic 4
Community involvement helps, but only in short term: Favors topic 4
Link payments to good parenting behavior: Opposes topic 4
Allow student prayer, but no religious instruction: Opposes topic 4
Character education: teach empathy & self-discipline: Favors topic 4
Change what kids see in the media: Favors topic 4
Co-sponsored bill to criminalize flag-burning: Favors topic 4
Rated 0% by the Christian Coalition: an anti-Family-Value voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 4
Rated 100% by the AU, indicating support of church-state separation: Strongly Opposes topic 4
NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration: Opposes topic 4
Strongly Favors topic 5:
Expand ObamaCare
(-5 points on Economic scale) Outcry if AIDS were leading disease of young whites: Favors topic 5
Lower costs and improve quality and cover everybody: Strongly Favors topic 5
Supply more medical needs of families, & insure all children: Strongly Favors topic 5
Medicare should be strengthened today: Favors topic 5
Smaller steps to progress on health care: Favors topic 5
Guaranteed benefits & focus on prevention: Neutral on topic 5
2006: If I can't do universal coverage, why run?: Strongly Favors topic 5
Universal health care will not work if it is voluntary: Strongly Favors topic 5
Universal health care coverage by the end of my second term: Strongly Favors topic 5
We need a uniquely American solution to health care: Favors topic 5
Health care initiatives are her first priority in Senate: Strongly Favors topic 5
Establish "report cards" on HMO quality of care: Favors topic 5
Invest funds to alleviate the nursing shortage: Favors topic 5
Let states make bulk Rx purchases, and other innovations: Opposes topic 5
Rated 100% by APHA, indicating a pro-public health record: Strongly Favors topic 5
Preserve access to Medicaid & SCHIP during economic downturn: Strongly Favors topic 5
NO on means-testing to determine Medicare Part D premium: Favors topic 5
NO on funding GOP version of Medicare prescription drug benefit: Favors topic 5
NO on $40 billion per year for limited Medicare prescription drug benefit: Opposes topic 5
YES on increasing Medicaid rebate for producing generics: Favors topic 5
YES on negotiating bulk purchases for Medicare prescription drug: Strongly Favors topic 5
YES on expanding enrollment period for Medicare Part D: Favors topic 5
NO on limiting medical liability lawsuits to $250,000: Opposes topic 5
YES on requiring negotiated Rx prices for Medicare part D: Favors topic 5
YES on overriding veto on expansion of Medicare: Favors topic 5
Strongly Opposes topic 6:
Privatize Social Security
(-5 points on Economic scale) 1997: Hillary warned against privatizing Social Security: Strongly Opposes topic 6
Soc.Sec. one of greatest inventions in American democracy: Strongly Opposes topic 6
Social Security protects families, not just retirees: Strongly Opposes topic 6
All should join the debate now to preserve future solvency: Opposes topic 6
Create Retirement Savings Accounts: Favors topic 6
Rated 100% by the ARA, indicating a pro-senior voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 6
NO on establishing reserve funds & pre-funding for Social Security: Opposes topic 6
Strongly Opposes topic 7:
Vouchers for school choice
(-5 points on Economic scale) OpEd: Common Core recycled from Clintons in 1980s and 1990s: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Fully fund special education & 21st century classrooms: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Supports public school choice; but not private nor parochial: Opposes topic 7
Vouchers drain money from public schools: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Fight with Gore for public schools; no voucher “gimmicks”: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Charter schools provide choice within public system: Opposes topic 7
Vouchers siphon off much-needed resources: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Parents can choose, but support public schools: Opposes topic 7
Supports public school choice and charter schools: Favors topic 7
Solemn vow never to abandon our public schools: Strongly Opposes topic 7
Offer every parent Charter Schools and public school choice: Opposes topic 7
Rated 82% by the NEA, indicating pro-public education votes: Strongly Opposes topic 7
YES on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors: Opposes topic 7
YES on funding student testing instead of private tutors: Opposes topic 7
YES on $5B for grants to local educational agencies: Opposes topic 7
Strongly Opposes topic 8:
Clean air and water are property rights
(-5 points on Social scale) $5B for green-collar jobs in economic stimulus package: Opposes topic 8
Voted against and consistently opposed to Yucca Mountain: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Scored 100% on Humane Society Scorecard on animal protection: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Remove PCBs from Hudson River by dredging 200 miles: Opposes topic 8
Rated 89% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes: Strongly Opposes topic 8
EPA must do better on mercury clean-up: Opposes topic 8
Grants for beach water pollution under Clean Water Act: Opposes topic 8
Strengthen prohibitions against animal fighting: Strongly Opposes topic 8
Opposes topic 9:
Stricter punishment reduces crime
(+2 points on Social scale) Longtime advocate of death penalty, with restrictions: Strongly Favors topic 9
Address the unacceptable increase in incarceration: Opposes topic 9
Mandatory sentences have been too widely used: Strongly Opposes topic 9
Give kids after-school activities to prevent gangs: Opposes topic 9
Spend more time with kids to prevent violence: Opposes topic 9
Supports citizen patrols & 3-Strikes-You’re-Out: Favors topic 9
Supports “Three Strikes” and more prison: Strongly Favors topic 9
End hate crimes and other intolerance: Favors topic 9
Require DNA testing for all federal executions: Opposes topic 9
Increase funding for "COPS ON THE BEAT" program: Opposes topic 9
Reduce recidivism by giving offenders a Second Chance: Strongly Opposes topic 9
YES on reinstating $1.15 billion funding for the COPS Program: Opposes topic 9
Strongly Opposes topic 10:
Absolute right to gun ownership
(-5 points on Economic scale) Rein in idea that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Against illegal guns, crack down on illegal gun dealers: Opposes topic 10
Get assault weapons & guns off the street: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Background check system could prevent Virginia Tech massacre: Opposes topic 10
Congress’ failure at Littleton response inspired Senate run: Opposes topic 10
Limit access to weapons; look for early warning signs: Opposes topic 10
License and register all handgun sales: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Gun control protects our children: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Don’t water down sensible gun control legislation: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Lock up guns; store ammo separately: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Get weapons off the streets; zero tolerance for weapons: Opposes topic 10
Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology: Opposes topic 10
NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence: Strongly Opposes topic 10
NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers: Strongly Opposes topic 10
Strongly Favors topic 11:
Higher taxes on the wealthy
(-5 points on Economic scale) Rescind tax cuts for those making more than $250,000 a year: Strongly Favors topic 11
Pay down debt & cut taxes within balanced budget: Favors topic 11
GOP tax plan would hurt New York’s students: Favors topic 11
Rated 21% by NTU, indicating a "Big Spender" on tax votes: Strongly Favors topic 11
Rated 80% by the CTJ, indicating support of progressive taxation: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on raising the Death Tax exemption to $5M from $1M: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on allowing AMT reduction without budget offset: Favors topic 11
YES on reducing marriage penalty instead of cutting top tax rates: Favors topic 11
YES on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction: Favors topic 11
NO on $350 billion in tax breaks over 11 years: Strongly Favors topic 11
YES on extending the tax cuts on capital gains and dividends: Strongly Opposes topic 11
YES on $47B for military by repealing capital gains tax cut: Favors topic 11
YES on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends: Strongly Opposes topic 11
NO on permanently repealing the `death tax`: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on supporting permanence of estate tax cuts: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on raising estate tax exemption to $5 million: Strongly Favors topic 11
NO on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax: Strongly Favors topic 11
Favors topic 12:
Pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens
(+2 points on Social scale) Introduce a path to earn citizenship in the first 100 days: Strongly Favors topic 12
Consider halting certain raids on illegal immigrant families: Favors topic 12
Deporting all illegal immigrants is unrealistic: Strongly Favors topic 12
Illegal immigrants with driver’s licenses puts them at risk: Opposes topic 12
Oppose granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants: Opposes topic 12
More border patrolling on both Mexican AND Canadian borders: Opposes topic 12
Anti-immigrant bill would have criminalized Jesus Christ: Strongly Favors topic 12
Sanctuary cities ok; local police can’t enforce immigration: Favors topic 12
Comprehensive reform to get 12 million out of shadows: Strongly Favors topic 12
Sponsored bill covering child resident aliens under Medicaid: Favors topic 12
Sponsored bill funding social services for noncitizens: Favors topic 12
Rated 8% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on continuing federal funds for declared "sanctuary cities": Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on establishing a Guest Worker program: Favors topic 12
YES on building a fence along the Mexican border: Strongly Opposes topic 12
YES on eliminating the "Y" nonimmigrant guestworker program: Neutral topic 12
NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government: Strongly Favors topic 12
YES on comprehensive immigration reform: Strongly Favors topic 12
Opposes topic 13:
Support & expand free trade
(-3 points on Economic scale) Smart, pro-American trade: NAFTA has hurt workers: Strongly Opposes topic 13
No fast-track authority for this president: Opposes topic 13
Defended outsourcing of US jobs to India: Favors topic 13
1980s: Loved Wal-Mart's "Buy America" program: Opposes topic 13
Globalization should not substitute for humanization: Opposes topic 13
Supports MFN for China, despite concerns over human rights: Strongly Favors topic 13
Build a rule-based global trading system: Favors topic 13
Rated 17% by CATO, indicating a pro-fair trade voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on removing common goods from national security export rules: Favors topic 13
YES on granting normal trade relations status to Vietnam: Favors topic 13
NO on extending free trade to Andean nations: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on establishing free trade between US & Singapore: Favors topic 13
YES on establishing free trade between the US and Chile: Favors topic 13
NO on implementing CAFTA for Central America free-trade: Strongly Opposes topic 13
YES on free trade agreement with Oman: Strongly Favors topic 13
Opposes topic 14:
Maintain US sovereignty from UN
(-3 points on Economic scale) US support & no-fly zone, but UN troops on ground in Darfur: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Support UN reform because US benefits: Opposes topic 14
2002 Iraq speech criticized both Saddam and U.N.: Opposes topic 14
Urged President to veto UN condemnation of Israel: Favors topic 14
Engage in world affairs, including human rights: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Keep Cuban embargo; pay UN bills: Opposes topic 14
2002: Attacking Iraq "not a good option" but authorized it: Favors topic 14
Voted against Levin Amendment: it gave UN veto over US: Favors topic 14
Dems believe in fighting terror with cooperation: Strongly Opposes topic 14
Restore habeas corpus for detainees in the War on Terror: Opposes topic 14
YES on preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees: Strongly Opposes topic 14
YES on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods: Strongly Opposes topic 14
NO on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad: Strongly Opposes topic 14
No opinion on topic 15:
Expand the military
(0 points on Social scale) There is no safe haven for the terrorists: Favors topic 15
Our troops are stretched; so increase size of military: Favors topic 15
Rated 100% by SANE, indicating a pro-peace voting record: Strongly Opposes topic 15
Extend reserve retirement pay parity back to 9/11: Favors topic 15
Improve mental health care benefits for returning veterans: Favors topic 15
YES on requiring on-budget funding for Iraq, not emergency funding: Opposes topic 15
YES on limiting soldiers' deployment to 12 months: Opposes topic 15
Strongly Favors topic 16:
Stricter limits on voting rights
(-5 points on Social scale) Voter suppression revives old demons of discrimination: Favors topic 16
Stand for public financing and getting money out of politics: Strongly Favors topic 16
Presidents should reveal donations to their foundations: Strongly Favors topic 16
Move to public election financing, not banning lobbyists: Strongly Favors topic 16
Verified paper ballot for every electronic voting machines: Favors topic 16
Called for ban on all soft money in 2000 campaign: Favors topic 16
Prohibit 'voter caging' which intimidates minority voting: Favors topic 16
YES on banning campaign donations from unions & corporations: Favors topic 16
YES on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads: Favors topic 16
NO on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity: Opposes topic 16
NO on allowing some lobbyist gifts to Congress: Strongly Favors topic 16
Favors topic 17:
Stay out of Iran
(+2 points on Social scale) Smartest strategic choice is peace: Favors topic 17
Extend peace treaties to Palestinians, Syrians & Lebanese: Favors topic 17
Foreign aid spending is only 1%; lead by remaining engaged: Strongly Favors topic 17
Up to the Iraqis to decide the future they will have: Favors topic 17
Demand Bush to explain to Congress on his plan on Iraq: Favors topic 17
Deauthorize Iraq war, and don’t grant new war authority: Strongly Favors topic 17
Phased redeployment out of Iraq, beginning immediately: Strongly Favors topic 17
Withdraw troops within 60 days after taking office: Strongly Favors topic 17
Voted for Iraq war based on available info; now would not: Favors topic 17
Progressive Internationalism: globalize with US pre-eminence: Favors topic 17
No troop surge: no military escalation in Iraq: Strongly Favors topic 17
Require Congress' approval before military action in Iran: Favors topic 17
YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq: Strongly Opposes topic 17
NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007: Strongly Opposes topic 17
YES on redeploying US troops out of Iraq by March 2008: Strongly Favors topic 17
Strongly Favors topic 18:
Prioritize green energy
(-5 points on Economic scale) $100B per year by 2020 for climate change mitigation: Strongly Favors topic 18
Remove energy dependence on countries who would harm us: Strongly Favors topic 18
Stands for clean air and funding the EPA: Favors topic 18
Reduce air pollution to improve children’s health: Favors topic 18
Ratify Kyoto; more mass transit: Strongly Favors topic 18
Supports tradable emissions permits for greenhouse gases: Favors topic 18
Keep efficient air conditioner rule to conserve energy: Strongly Favors topic 18
Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances: Strongly Favors topic 18
Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence: Favors topic 18
Designate sensitive ANWR area as protected wilderness: Favors topic 18
Set goal of 25% renewable energy by 2025: Strongly Favors topic 18
Let states define stricter-than-federal emission standards: Strongly Favors topic 18
Gas tax holiday for the summer: Opposes topic 18
NO on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill: Favors topic 18
YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%): Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR: Strongly Favors topic 18
YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge: Favors topic 18
YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning: Favors topic 18
YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies: Strongly Favors topic 18
Opposes topic 19:
Never legalize marijuana
(+2 points on Social scale) Medical marijuana maybe ok; states decide recreational use: Opposes topic 19
Divert non-violent drug offenders away from prison: Strongly Opposes topic 19
Address drug problem with treatment and special drug courts: Strongly Opposes topic 19
End harsher sentencing for crack vs. powder cocaine: Opposes topic 19
Require chemical resellers to certify against meth use: Favors topic 19
Strongly Favors topic 20:
Stimulus better than market-led recovery
(-5 points on Economic scale) Wealthy should go back to paying pre-Bush tax rates: Favors topic 20
Want to restore the tax rates we had in the ‘90s: Favors topic 20
Help people facing foreclosure; don’t just bail-out banks: Strongly Favors topic 20
Minimum wage increases haven’t kept up with Congress’ wages: Strongly Favors topic 20
Co-sponsored bills totaling $502B in spending thru 2005: Strongly Favors topic 20
End Bush tax cuts;take things away from rich for common good: Favors topic 20
Social issues matter; wrong time for tax cuts: Strongly Favors topic 20
Use tax dollars to upgrade infrastructure, not for stadium: Strongly Favors topic 20
America can afford to raise the minimum wage: Strongly Favors topic 20
Just Say No to GOP tax plan: Strongly Favors topic 20
YES on increasing tax rate for people earning over $1 million: Strongly Favors topic 20

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
52. FIRST they have to stop lying about Hillary Clinton...
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 08:49 AM
Oct 2014


Hillary Clinton is a Populist-Leaning Liberal.



They need to STOP calling everyone not on the Fringe a Conservative Republican as we have witnessed here on DU so often. We do have some Center Left....but the VAST majority of Democrats are neither of those polar opposites...
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
79. The Waltons and other 1%'ers support Hillary because she'll help them keep
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 11:18 AM
Oct 2014

their money by arguing, as Bill did, in favor of Chicago school free market ideas that actually have led to the massive wealth/income inequality that has worked so well for them over the last 30 years - through both Republican and Democratic administrations.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
105. Why yes, it is! And that really long, meant to derail the conversation by making it tedious to
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 03:17 PM
Oct 2014

scroll through the thread list of stuff, will be cut and pasted until you submit!

Baitball Blogger

(46,699 posts)
104. It's more than Hillary being hawkish.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 03:16 PM
Oct 2014

She supports a style of government that social networks with small government types, who are reinforcing inequities in our communities. Their system permeates throughout our local and state governments, which allows their supporters to circumvent due process requirements. That's how the job opportunities keep going to the wrong people for the wrong reasons. And once empowered, they use the same networks to continue pilfering community resources wherever they can get away with it.

Essentially, she is small government types best friend. That's why Hillary does not excite those of us who are looking for a break from the corruption that goes on in our towns.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
108. Ah, this old chestnut. I'd expect nothing less from the sideboob gazette.
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 03:25 PM
Oct 2014

It ranks right up there with "Where's my pony" as ways to be dismissive of someone you disagree with, without actually listening to any of their arguments. Since people ONLY disagree with the president because he's black , let the "they only hate her because she's a women" meme officially begin.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
133. DNC won't stop until it flushes liberals out of politics - it just gets worse
Mon Oct 13, 2014, 07:56 PM
Oct 2014

and worse, the more the DNC bashes liberals, the more are quality of life will continue in decline in America as the differentials between core Republican and core Democrat revolve more and more around two issues - gay marriage and abortion.

Things like income disparity, environmental protection, police brutality and our post-constitutional police state, NSA/CIA, all are acting to suppress wages, oppress dissent, and keep a small minority of oligarchs in power.

Never forget that in 2008, DNC calculated that Obama won because of his appeal to conservative and independent voters. DNC went to town rewarding conservatives for their hard work. Then, the 2010 disaster was blamed on liberals not voting after we were called retarded, dirty hippies, pony lovers, etc. Amazing. Incredible. If MLK gave his "Dream" speech today, conservative Democrats would accuse him of rainbows and ponies.

It was a convenient deception, tailor made for a conservative media narrative.

Much of the decline of our quality of life parallels the decline of the unions in America. The anger and hatred towards liberals is just an extension of this, amplifying the crushing class war between the rich and non-rich.

If you want to improve the quality of life in America, start listening to liberal voices and stop being embarrassed and ashamed of the L word. DNC has let Fox News control the narrative. At one point you could argue that beneath it all, they were still liberals. After what we've seen with torture, militarized police, spying, fracking, wall street crime, nothing could be further from the truth.


 

CANDO

(2,068 posts)
139. Damn....I think we do get to vote, don't we?
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 11:07 AM
Oct 2014

At some point we get to vote in the primary. We don't even have any declared candidates, afaik. But we have Clinton supporters doing psy-ops to squelch any free thinking individuals from thinking there might be a viable alternative. I have no idea whom I'll vote for and until there are actual candidates, let's just all chill the hell out.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
142. That's exactly what the anti-Democratic "progressives" want - No primaries, no votes counted.
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 09:58 PM
Oct 2014

They're afraid of actual democracy in action. They're a lot like Republicans that way.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
140. we all know that strawmen are all the third wayers have
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 01:47 PM
Oct 2014

other than all the equally dishonest labeling that accompanies their strawpeople.

The real purists aren't those that find HC largely or wholely unpalatable, but rather those that demand they feel and express themselves otherwise lest they fall victim to an avalanche of strawpeople carcasses and suffocated by the endless stream of such noise that is really just an escape hatch from the indefensibility of those things they object to about her.

SO what she loves cluster bombs but thinks single-payer a bad idea, no?

The simple fact of the matter is that those that oppose her came to that conclusion via the same pro/con list that the third wayers came to theirs, and the bad outweighs the good and vice versa respectively. They also reject the status quo of another corporatist in the WH, whereas her supporters embrace it or have resigned themselves to it.

and the third wayers simply can't handle the fact that they can't hide their role in all the socio-economic issues, e.g. income inequality, that currently plague us, while being totally bewildered as to why those not like them react so harshly to their strawmen-tossing selves claiming the moral high ground the aforementioned deprives them of.

I think the most silly thing the author wrote was about "engaging", like "engaging" is the same regardless of the depth and breadth, nature and character of the interactions/entanglements prompting and resulting from the engagements. There are no prominent pols in DC without sin in this regard -- even Sanders -- http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Nov06/Smith15.htm, there's merely the "some are better than others/lesser of two evils" choices for us all to make based on the totality of their records. For example, in this case much as with BHO, her vote for the Iraq War v Sanders voting against it. His support for Israel as much as I find it abominable at worst and misguided at best makes him hawkish for Israel, not the US. Same with Warren http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/09/19/morning-plum-elizabeth-warren-bets-against-war/ Let's face it, FP is where we've always seen the most bipartisanship http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/15/progressive-democrats-follow-obama-to-war-in-syria/ so the question is who is the more/most hawkish, or has shown the potential for it. Apparently HC supporters don't like the idea that HC has won the title to so many, no?

Apparently to many HC is simply less preferred than some of her fellow travelers/sinners based on her record, not because of the irrationality, dishonesty and/or ignorance of some mythical horde of starry-eyed and unrealistic idealists/"purists" who think their choice above criticism. Nobody's looking for much less expecting perfection in their candidates, just those they think will do the most good and the least harm.

The problem we old lefty, big picture people see isn't the "well, Sanders and Warren are hawkish too!" albeit in a more limited context/way, but rather the fact that those we think would be our best reps are hawkish at all. There's no such thing as a harmless hawk as their views on Israel make clear, but some hawks are to be feared more than others, and HC appears to be the most feared, and for good reasons, most notably the vote that went a long way towards her losing to BHO.

The fear of rightwingnuttery that gives license to so many to overlook so much and to attempt to silence her critics, has a twin on the democrat playground behind the fear and consequent opposition to HC. You'd think that that the victims of that fear that have slowly given up turf to the right, the third wayers, would have sufficient knowledge and insight into the problem to relate and empathize, but alas, all they can see are crazy on the right and only slightly less crazy on the real left from their pirch on the moral highground.

We see efforts representative of this almost daily around here, no? You have to wonder at this point who they consider the bigger enemy -- the rightwingers or all those "traitors" on what's left of the left lacking love for HC.

fadedrose

(10,044 posts)
141. Sanders and Warren
Tue Oct 14, 2014, 02:04 PM
Oct 2014

are irreplaceable in the Senate....no one could replace either and they could be in the Senate for a long time if they don't drop out because of a presidential run. Not sure of the law that governs whether they can keep their Senate seats if they run.

Both will give the president of 2016 a headache whether it's HC or a Republican.

On the other hand, one person who will be out of government is VP Biden... what a waste of talent and knowledge. I think that's why I back him. His speeches always have fodder for discussion by Right and Left, and Third Way Whatevers. I think MSM would enjoy his term.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
143. yep
Wed Oct 15, 2014, 09:59 AM
Oct 2014

I think it depends on the state as to whether or not you can run for both simultaneously. There was recently an effort made http://www.kentucky.com/2014/03/18/3147299/kentucky-senate-passes-bill-to.html on behalf of Rand Paul in KY to allow it there. http://www.politicususa.com/2014/04/18/kentucky-democrats-kill-rand-pauls-plan-run-president-senate-simultaneously.html

I would certainly prefer Joe over HC for many reasons, not the least of which would be his way of shooting first...lol

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